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SCRAPE SCRAPE SCRAPE!!! Lie Nielsen vs Veritas vs Stanley Review and Comparison!

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Bat Cave Creations

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@thwwoodcraft1449
@thwwoodcraft1449 Жыл бұрын
IME the key to using any scraper plane is to place no downward pressure on the tote. I have the Veritas, an old Stanley, the little LN 112 and this is true of all of them. Your two contact points are the blade and the sole in front of it. I push the little 112 but pull the others.
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
love it! thank you for sharing!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright Жыл бұрын
Well said man!
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@danpatch4751
@danpatch4751 Жыл бұрын
I own many vintage Stanley planes and Stanley planes of all sizes and types with others names on them. I own a large handful of Lie Nielson and 1 Veritas jointer plane with a attachable fence. I like all of them but the Veritas jointer was smooth out of the box, well designed. I have other items and tools from Veritas, the sharpening jig and so on. The people who design Veritas tools are thinkers for sure, Veritas tools are top notch. But I still like my antiques. Good comparison video👍.
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I 100% agree with you I love the antique ones too but Veritas is just easier for me to you. Thats preference too haha I have alot of comparison videos you may appreciate because of how many planes you have! Looking at Stanley and how LN improved the design then of course LN vs Veritas lol
@scottsiejkowski8486
@scottsiejkowski8486 Жыл бұрын
I have the Lie-Nielsen and I love it. I would recommend to anyone that gets it to start with the iron adjusted to 20 degrees forward from vertical and adjust for the species you're scraping from there.
@Devon.Martin
@Devon.Martin Жыл бұрын
I just got the notification this morning from Lee Valley that these were back in stock.
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Haha that is awesome!!!!
@fredpierce6097
@fredpierce6097 Жыл бұрын
I look forward to seeing you demo the use of these planes in a future video. I expect to buy a scraper plane in the near future as I advance into more figured woods.
@blayne2029
@blayne2029 Жыл бұрын
agree. looking forward to the demo. as usual, excellent video
@Driver10011
@Driver10011 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the comparisons! Could you also show the difference between the thick and thin irons?
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Yes! The thin veritas is 1/16 and the thick is 1/8. When I do the video showing both I'll make it visual! Should have done that in this one :(
@stevem268
@stevem268 Жыл бұрын
i have the veritas of course. haven't used it much yet. i got it used and it came with both irons. the thicker iron is still wrapped up as it came from LV!
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
That is awesome!! I just wok the the veritas in CIHI and placed the order for the thicker iron ahha had to find $12 worth of stuff for free shipping hahaha
@ronhau1542
@ronhau1542 Жыл бұрын
I’m really curious about the thick iron. If you get out and use it let us know how it compares to the thin please.
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Here you go! Idk if I say in there but I do prefer the thun. Tho I'm keeping both haha kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdJ2qNOh2MeVaIk.html
@ronhau1542
@ronhau1542 Жыл бұрын
@@BatCaveCreations TY!!!!
@craigpierce4941
@craigpierce4941 Жыл бұрын
Nice review. Wow, scraper planes are expensive!
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Yes they are ahha deff a luxury item in price and purpose haha
@ronhau1542
@ronhau1542 Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite Veritas planes. I think they did a great job it. Skew 🐇 block is my favorite I think but 👍👍
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
It so hard to pick 1 and say it's a fave! Cus it depends on the task haha 😄 😆 🤣
@ronhau1542
@ronhau1542 Жыл бұрын
@@BatCaveCreations very true!
@joewilson4436
@joewilson4436 8 ай бұрын
Do you have any thoughts on the standard Veritas vs the Veritas small scraping plane? I'm thinking about getting the small one because I find that when I use a scraper it tends to be on smaller parts that are awkward to sand with power sanders. I don't typically scrape wide panels and such that I imagine the larger scraper planes are better suited for (though maybe I would i I get a good scraping plane)
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations 8 ай бұрын
I haven't had a chance to try the small scraper yet but it's on my list to buy cus I also believe it would be useful for small areas!
@garyvaiskauckas8463
@garyvaiskauckas8463 Жыл бұрын
At 12:54 into video you should have shown a comparison of the different scraper planes in action. Your viewers are intelligent enough to weigh the results even with the differences in blade thicknesses. Don't put your thumb on the Veritas scale, as a reviewer you want to leave your biases aside and let the facts and data speak for themselves. Remember you have viewers out there where price is not the most important factor in purchasing a once in a lifetime tool. Other than that miss, overall great video Thanks!
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with trying to remember I have viewers that don't care about price. I deff need to work on that or really just ignore that it is a factor for me :D Thank you!!! I will disagree a bit about showing them in use, I worried about newer woodworkers or those that have not used a scraper plane before, they wouldn't know the difference between the irons. I should have got the thicker iron then showed them in use to make it more fair. I prob still would have left Stanley out the noise hurt my ears hahaha
@garyvaiskauckas8463
@garyvaiskauckas8463 Жыл бұрын
@@BatCaveCreations Thanks for your rapid response! A head to head of LN Scraper vs Veritas Scraper with the thicker blade would settle it ;-) Assuming you still have access to both scrapers. I do appreciate you having a view and laying out your rationale for your opinion. Keep growing and developing your craft and channel!
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
No don't have both anymore :( but once I catch up on my video list I will start asking around to borrow tools again lol (before I felt bad I was keeping them so long so I'm learning to wait till I'm ready ready to do the video lol) Thank you! I appreciate the feedback! Having a lot of fun with these while recognizing I still have more to learn about this whole KZfaq thing :D hahaha
@XxIcedecknightxX
@XxIcedecknightxX Жыл бұрын
I'd probably go with the Veritas and see if I can make a thicker iron for it.
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
That's my choice too! I'll be buying the thicker iron tho cus I can't make anything outta metal ahhaha
@garyvaiskauckas8463
@garyvaiskauckas8463 Жыл бұрын
At 12:40 into video, Lie-Nielsen has a lifetime warranty on their products. If it breaks, just send it back to the factory and they will fix the tool.
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
ooh I didn't know that! that is great info! Thank you!
@randygill953
@randygill953 Жыл бұрын
I liked the comparison and I understand why you didn't want to show each one in action. But you could have shown a before board with terout and an after board NO tearout? so people can judge if they need a scraper plane. Personally I have Veritas and Stanley and lean to the Veritas.
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Ah that is a very good point! Thank you! I will do that when I do the video of the veritas scraper with the 2 diff irons!
@joekindon3935
@joekindon3935 Жыл бұрын
Great video Jamie! The one thing I’d like to see is the finish difference between planing vs scraping! I prefer planing, but I think it’s good to see first hand!
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Ask and you shall recieve! I should be able to make a short ok thay tomorrow or Tuesday! I'll write it down :D
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Here you go! :D kzfaq.infoB7Amt9Px7-g?feature=share
@tungsten_carbide
@tungsten_carbide Жыл бұрын
This was very useful, thanks 👍While I'll still keep my eyes open for a Stanley it would be Veritas all the way for me... and not just because the L-N is so much more, but also that! My hands are I guess on the larger side of medium and there's sure to not be enough room because of that thumbscrew if the blade needs to be canted that far forward typically. Even if they intend for the blade to be used more vertically* I can't understand why they made the shaft that long, it's not like it requires a lot of travel to work - locking screws like this only need to be long enough to equal the thickness of the cap + projection on the blade side + a little extra under the head so fingertips don't feel cramped. *Might cause clearance issues at the back!
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
I agree!!! I'm very confused on their choice there haha Veritas all the way for me too! Stanley's are awesome too deff check out a Hock iron replacement if you find one!
@christopherharrison6724
@christopherharrison6724 Жыл бұрын
I’m bidding on an old wooden scraper plane on eBay at the moment,I don’t think anyone knows what it is including the seller 😂
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Hahah that is halarious! I love when that happens. I got many deals that way!
@Lugeix
@Lugeix 11 ай бұрын
Why is there no adjustable throat opening? Tare out not an issue with scraping like it is with planing??
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations 11 ай бұрын
Great question! I have only had tare out on the most figured oak I have ever seen. Its so curly it tares out in CHUNKS lol. But no, 99% of the time you don't have to worry about tate out with scrapers
@Lapsin121
@Lapsin121 Жыл бұрын
Wonder if veritas raises the prices to Americans. The plane is 240CAD which is like 175US. Noticed they just came back in stock been debating getting one. That Lie Nelson does look nice though
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Oh deff higher for US buyers cus the free shipping isn't really free :D
@Lapsin121
@Lapsin121 Жыл бұрын
@@BatCaveCreations maybe that's how we make up for not being able to get lie Nelson we get the veritas a bit cheaper ahaha.
@BatCaveCreations
@BatCaveCreations Жыл бұрын
Hahha yes!!! I'd say that's a win! Saves money all around haha
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