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The funny thing about secret invasion is that, if you remove it entirely, Fury has a consistent character arc. Fury’s lightheartedness in the post credit scene of Far From Home is matched in The Marvels.

I’ve been religiously watching this channel for a few years now. WHY isn’t Ryan an official writer at Marvel!?! You would be amazing!

I just don't get why Secret Invasion didn' happen after The Marvels. There needed to be a catalyst for why the Skrulls try to take over, a straw that breaks the camels back. The last Skrull colony being destroyed and the sudden influx of refugees to Earth could have been that, especially since they would blame Earth heroes for the destruction. That would just make more sense and one story would be leading to another.

Wasn't James Gunn announced to be in charge of the cosmic side before they fired him? Maybe he had a plan laid out but Marvel couldn't use it anymore after he left.

The Secret Invasion story for the most part makes more sense if it takes place after The Marvels, which was probably the original intent. The increased tensions of the Skrulls not having a home make more sense in the wake of their colony’s destruction. But then scheduling chaos pushed SI to air before the movie, which meant the colony existing afterwards would negate the show’s storyline. So they added a hastily filmed line about the colony existing to try to handwave over the obvious plot hole, and in the process created another one because no one was minding the store.

the Eternals movie looked drab compared to the Jack Kirby comic book , and they changed the Eternals from being organic beings to robots and the deviants from being colored humanoids like Thanos, to grey dinosaur dogs

They messed up taskmaster the most. He's such a cool character and would be really cool to see in the MCU. That still makes me mad everytime I think about ut.

For many years, Hollywood writers and producers have treated movie goers like idiots that don't understand anything that they can't see in their real lives. This leads to The Silver Surfer serving a smoke monster Galactus since they felt normal giant person was too hard to grasp. They are still doing this.

13:44 so basically the stuff that happened in the background was more interesting then what we got right now.

Screen crush is killing it…Marvel should be using you all as consultants

Just posted this on another thread the most recent phases were poorly executed but the ideas were there. The execution and plan didn't exist

Secret Invasion can still be redone post Secret Wars because it’s a soft reboot, other cosmic stories, Annihilation, Empyre, Galactus Trilogy, Korvac Saga, Infinity Wars, Infinity Crusade, Dark Phoenix Saga, Magnus Saga, War Of Kings, real Planet Hulk, or orginal Infinity War storyline

That’s what I’ve hated about some of the recent Marvel stuff, is that it isn’t TRASH per se, it’s just there’s this huge wealth of potential and you think they are gonna DO THE THING, right? and then they just ……..don’t at all.

They humped the bunk between Secret Invasion & The Marvels. They name drop the Skrull Emperor in Secret Invasion, let alone give no hint as to what Carol did to the Cree, & then the first time we meet the Emperor, he’s getting evicted by the Cree baddie & being taken in by Valkyrie? I’m so confused 🧐🥶

Thank you! Someone said it! I always appreciate seeing something about Captain Marvel. Carols NEEDS a character driven story about failure and loss, that's what made her first outing a billion dollar film. If we had gotten your prorosed CM2, Carol would have been the glue that stuck the cosmic story lines together. Also, seeing her fail to stop a war she accidentally made into a near genocide would have been powerful to see and her redemption from it would have been even more so. I think I literally commented some of this on your previous video recently involving Carol so I'm glad to see we're on a similar wavelength in terms of our hope of a framework/meaning for the cosmic side, where the lore could have been strengthened, and how stellar and important these characters are and could be to the cosmic story's weave.

My biggest disappointment with the space mcu stuff is we still dont have Nova

Wanda was corrupted by the dark hold in the post credit scene in wandaVision. She turned bad there.

My understanding is that the first cycle had Joss Whedon doing some type of planning. I remember hearing that he was keeping things in line to make everything in the first 2 Avengers movies somewhat coherent. When he was broken by A2, they stayed on the rails until the end of Infinity War. And then…

12:26 People keep saying this, but it’s not true. Wandavision ended with Wanda playing with the all-corrupting book of evil magic. That’s what happened, she was corrupted by the evil book.

I think Marvel and Disney need to state that The Marvels should take place before Secret Invasion…

That cosmic synopsis was amazing

After Endgame, you get the impression that they are just grinding out content as fast as possible. It's not following a plan or setting anything up. It's just "glad to hear you liked the Infinity Saga! now, how about some bonus Marvel stuff?" There's no multiverse saga. Who is the villain? What are they planning? Why are they so badass? Noting.

Carol Danvers' hero to villain arc sounds awesome, a real missed opportunity!

The original Phoenix (just Jean - no possession) is still the best. Fingers crossed for no "it was a duplicate" retcon edition

“AVENGERS! assemble” Gives me chills to this day

The Snap-Blip era. How have we not gotten more material for that period?

That was SABER in space. Monica Rambea work for SWORD in WandaVision.

The secret invasion story line in the comics was spread across multiple books over a few years. I agree that it was wasted presenting it in a mini series. They could have gotten a few films with cliffhangers out of it.

for Captain Marvel 2, i wanted it to be called Captain Marvel 2: Secret Invasion or something like that, i did like the Marvels movie, but i think we missed a movie in between Captain Marvel 1 and the Marvels, they showed us in a tiny flashback what happened when she took on the Supreme Intelligencor, i wanted that to be the big bad of Captain Marvel 2, which we should have gotten before the Marvels movie

It's safe to ignore Secret Invasion, the MCU certainly does.

i didn't like that they changed the Mandarin, he was a Chinese Archaeologist that found an ancient alien spaceship and a robot dragon that had ten rings on it's claws and they fit on his fingers, and each one had a different alien symbol on them, and each one had a different power , like lightning blast, or freeze ray , or black hole, that would have made for an awesome Iron Man 3

This isn't just an issue for cosmic Marvel, it's an issue with everything after Endgame.

Another great video Screen Crush, I enjoy your "What If" or story fix style of videos

The last few years have really soured me on Nick Fury. Here's a character who could charm his way into anything he asks and has a failsafe, now he's a dottering old man with no direction or plan, and being picked on for admittedly lying to millions of Skrulls and i feel nothing but anger. He should feel bad and we should wan to see him get back, and by the end it's just like he never left or grown.

I love all of your videos. Your an inspiration, keep up the amazing work

The whole annihilator storyline was probably the plan before they shoehorned in Ms. Marvel and Rambeau. Would have been a much better movie

I honestly believe that the reason why Marvel doesn't seem to have a concrete plan regarding their cosmic stories is because of how James Gunn wrote and directed the Guardians. The MCU's first real step into the cosmic was with the Guardians but because Gunn put so many creative liberties into each film that the screen iterations of the Guardians have almost nothing in common with their comic counterparts, it just would've been difficult to reform some of the cosmic arcs from the comics because of the Guardians. Whatever cosmic stories that the screenwriters would've pulled from the comics would've had to have been tweaked in some capacity due to Guardians.

10:08 i had always said Gravik and the Skrulls motivation made no sense. he found them a home, and we seen him actively helping them off-world. yeah, the story was very sloppy.

That's what i thought a whole time. Thanos attack xandar, cap.marvel destroying supreme intelligence etc

If the comics have different runs with different writers then the MCU should follow that kind of story sharing between directors/writers.

You should do a video of how you would plan the DCU cosmic universe since it hasnt started yet, that would be a banger video!

They just keep breaking the Golden Rule: Show Don't Tell

I love how the reimagining of the MCU cosmic saga doesn’t bother accounting for The Eternals

This channel is just actually the best!!!

What's tragic is how the writing team behind Capt Marvel seems to leave their most interesting stories in flashbacks. We could've had Marvel's shortened version of Smallville with the Carol Danvers child flashbacks (which seemed to ONLY be made so the trailers could bait the radfem audience). Not sure why THIS wasn't the first half of the movie that we got... Now we find out that the sequel that got canned for the team-up movie was the double-down of "topple the society that keeps you down!" and they didn't want to run it with the Marvels?? So we once again get just another movie with better stakes and a consistent throughline in a flashback, "The better movie 2, flashbacks strike back". Marvel definitely isn't run by the same people who took the risk with Iron man as their opening movie, either that or someone somewhere thought "nah, capt marvel is the female power fantasy, she can't be seen *losing*" and scrapped a compelling character arc (where she was actually good but not doing it the way that's best for her). Instead we just see that without her powers she was nothing, because she's a blunt instrument who doesn't show any knowledge of finesse or adaptation. I say this having never seen The Marvels.

The President of the US can’t declare anything on the part of “The World” so it makes sense that Norway has no interest in expelling the Asgardians/beloved tourist attractions

Having been a lifelong fan of cosmic marvel (I started reading comics with Silver Surfer 50 and the Infinity Gauntlet) it’s so frustrating seeing this video because you are 100% right. The Abnett & Lanning cosmic run are my favourite comics ever and there is such a rich untapped vein of stories there that are just begging to be made into film. Gunn did well worth the guardians but that should have launched so much more but I dunno, feels like they’ve been holding it back?? IMO the multiverse and secret wars stories are too soon… Can only think this is because they want to bring in the existing fox roster to interact with the existing characters before they get too old (the root cause is not wanting to recast like you’ve spoken about). Imagine the stories playing out like you detailed and then when everything seems quiet, Ultron returns after a piece of him escaped the atmosphere and combines with the Phalanx!! They could merge the Annihilation Conquest with the Xmens Phalanx Covenant story from the 90s 🤷🏻 Did not mean to write that much. If you read all that, nice one!! ✌🏻

they can make a sequel to Dark Phoenix, they showed her flying into outer space at the end as the Phoenix, the Shi'Ar can attack Earth in the next movie, and say that the Phoenix must be destroyed because it blew up a star near their world

The way you explain it its shocking the inconsistencies haven’t been more egregious!

Thanos waited until Odin died to kickstart his plan

3:16 A lot of BLANK spaces in CAPTAIN MARVEL's career in space. Why didn't we get a full update on what happened to her between 1990 to [her return to Earth with Stark in] 2015-or so???

Why didn't they straight up adapt Annihilation? That would have been epic.

I’m so glad I discovered your channel I love the mcu and marvel and I know they are not doing good now I’m Davy watching the marvels with my mom on Disney plus she had no idea what was going on and we watched everything So somethings wrong with the movies and I love how nog only you show what’s up but you offer solutions fun what if scenarios and other things so your not just saying this is wrong o really love your videos and they inspire me to do mcu what ifs of my own So thank you

I would have also liked a more in-depth story for Rambeau featured before Marvels. Ryan is 100% on point with addressing the gaps in storytelling. We should give everyone a pass for content created and released 2019-2023, no?

As always Ryan and team have amazing and intriguing ideas, of which Marvel should take note, but probably won't.

7:18 Out of ALL the MCU movies, Thor Ragnarok is your favorite movie? Wow. There really is no accounting for taste.

This is un related but here's how to fix kang and make him a better big bad than thanos #1 Make Kang more like Thanos and the High evolutionary #2 Show Kang winning every battle like Thanos in infinty war not only did thanos able to defeat the hulk but also was able to take on all of the guardians of galaxy along with ironman , spiderman and dr strange so make kang win more fights #3 Show kang win in avengers Kang dyasnty and becomes God of the mutliverse and creates battleworld instead of the beyonder then have Kang be killed by dr doom becoming God emperor doom

Bro, your reviews are AWESOME.

Wow, I just got super depressed while watching this video picturing an alternate ending of secret Invasion where a revitalized Nick Fury who has his faith back in super heroes clicks an Avengers icon on his phone and gets a little grin and the Avengers theme plays and-oh man I gotta lay down

Wow. I was just wondering if I should skip Secret Invasion. Now I got my answer.

Here's a fun idea; Marvel could still do that story for a third Captain Marvel movie unifying the cosmic stuff. They've already done at least one interquel with Black Widow, filling the gap between Civil War and Infinity War. They've used scenes in Black Widow and the Ant-man movies to hint at a "lost era" set of stories during the '70s and '80s. The first Captain Marvel was also a gap filling movie, since it was set in 1989 and 1995. I love that they're good at adjusting things down the line and often succeed.

They should get EVERY SURVIVING AUTHOR that wrote the greats to be consultants. Are Claremont or Jim Starlin alive? (R.I.P. John Byrne, M.Gruenwald, etc.) As a Marvel Zombie that read comics from 1975-2005, I am beyond words underwhelmed by the MCU's 20 year stretch. There's been story arcs that've won Eisner Awards (Oscars for comics) that they've consistently BLOWN as you've so eloquently detailed here. With few exceptions. They could literally pull 75% dialogue straight from the books & just turn paper into film. I think the #1 problem is too much creative license and complete DISRESPECT to the glory of rich canon history & the fans. The damn writers & producers could just do slight ad lib & take all the credit. I have little hope that they can do anything other than a COMPLETE REBOOT, hopefully after getting Spidey licenses from Sony. Retire Kevin Feige & KK. Elon Musk buys Disney. Fix Star Wars Disney era & start Marvel from scratch. Do FF right. Do least 1 movie with original X-Men, Avengers & Guardians of Galaxy. Before introducing later, better known characters. There is no "superhero fatigue", only CRAP NON-CANON FATIGUE. Screw the Ultimate universe. Give us WW3 Nick Fury & Howling Commandos fighting alongside Logan, Cap & the Invaders. Do Earth right, including regular heroes & street level/heroes for hire types. And cosmic stuff right like Kree/Shiar/Skrull, Negative Zone, Galactus/Heralds/Quasar/(real)Mar-Vell. Keep narcissists & fan-hating Liberal agendas OUT of good story telling. If it worked before 20-50 years ago, non fans will love it too. No excuses. It will even bring value back to old comics & cause quality to come back to the entire comics industry again. Meanwhile all we can do is cherish the great memories we have of the books, and of the maybe 5-8 DECENT movies that have been made such as Maguire Spidey 1, IronMan1, Japan Wolverine, Capt 1-2, Black Panther 1, Guardians 2(?) and Avengers up to Infinity War. Everything else has basically SUCKED. Couple shows were ok like Falcon/WS, Iron Fist s1 & Shield s1. Other than that, I don't think I would sit through anything else ever again. Stan Lee talked about doing movies since the early 70s & died rich, but he was a freaking SELL OUT. He should've insisted in keeping canon. It's what separated Marvel from everyone else. It inspired trivia geekness where books had to refer all past history to the books they referred to with notes constantly. Consistency was king. It made it cool to be a geek, fan that knew the details. Most of everything now is watered down bubblegum used toilet paper versions of Marvel's previous glory. Like many other franchises. It's sad that almost nothing matters these days except a quick buck. Disney DESERVES the loss of every cent of the billions they're lost as retribution for spitting in the face of history, the Americana, the culture, and of both the creators & the fans. But at least Stan died filthy rich.... NUFF SAID (wow, my Aunt Petunia. I really didn't wanna waste that much time & passion or think it was clobberin time. What a revoltin development!)

Great video!!!!

Kevin Fiege probably didn't saw Secret Invasion before it premiere because he must see the movies! Secret Invasion should have been in Battleword so that the Skrulls will be from another universe where they took over Earth and defeated the Kree!

Add in the mess with The Eternals. I like your ideas about Captain Marvel. She was too over- powered for the underdog story they kept trying to tell.

Hearing you explain how to connect the cosmic stories sounds way better than marvel’s rendition

I badly want a proper space battle in the MCU

12:34 Nia wasn’t even in the same room as the movie she was directing.

Great video!!! Agree 100%

Captain Marvel should of been introduced earlier in the infinity saga... maybe in phase 2. And Phase 3 could of had an ACTUAL Captain Marvel 2 movie focusing on her being "The Annihilator" I would LOVE to see a follow up right after Cap. Marvel 1 when she destroys the supreme intelligence and plunge the glaxy into a civil war. Make her into a villain/morally gray character in that story, then give her a good redemption arc. I want to see that regret, guilt etc Cap Marvel goes through. I just feel between the Cap Marvel and The Marvels movie, there is a HUGE story/event gap that should of been done.

A big problem with the cosmic side of Marvel is that it lacks a sense of scale. The Kree rule over an entire dwarf galaxy. Their war with the Skrulls spanned over hundreds of planets. It should have been portrayed like the Clone Wars or the Dominion War from Star Trek with battles between fleets of ships.

It seems to be the train in Hollywood to waste great stories. I have not seen a movie in recent times. It has not done that very thing. It’s like they’re afraid to actually do a good job.

NAILED IT PERFECTLY! - the MCU needs at two cinematic "editor-in-chief's - one exclusively for Earth-based stories - one for cosmic stories - and nothing get's approved or released without their review and approvals - it used to be Kevin, but it's obviously not the current case any longer

0:43 made me double take. I have cats named Artemews and Apawllo!

Anyone else get the vibe from the z drink something like the t virus commercials in resident evil?

They should’ve waited to do a proper secret invasion after the reported soft reboot. Would’ve been great as the first major build up for the new mcu. Secret invasion could’ve been the first avengers movie of the new shit.

Well the reason is probably that the Marvels and Secret Invasion switched release dates

Captain Marvel:Secret Invasion should have been a secret to captain marvel,but instead we got a half ass adaptation of secret invasion on Disney+ with a rushed finale and we ended up with the marvels.

I’m really hoping cap 4 has some sort of pay off for secret invasion and the marvels. The marvels was super fun but secret invasion was done just horribly, but I still think marvel is gonna start paying off on some things. But also yes, we NEED hulkling, I was really disappointed he wasn’t introduced in the marvels, maybe Cap 4 but I just don’t know.

You've only got ONE customer. You'd think you'd show him some love and get him in some merch

Only story I would have added is see the skrull lees war come together for the anilation story and have all the alien races we seen or introduced

Maybe its just a bug but ya'll notice that Secret invasion isn't on D+ timeline anymore?

Unfortunately, Chadwick Boseman died. I suspect Black Panther and Wakanda were originally intended as the anchor for Phase IV / V. In the comics, T'chala / Wakanda had links with Namor, Doom, FF, magic, Captain Marvel, Xmen, and even its own space empire -- more than enough material to move MCU forward. Black Panther aside, Chadwick had the gravitas to replace RDJ as the new centre. After Chadwick died, life had to go on but the MCU didn't have a ready character / actor to step in and be that anchor. Hence, we got the string of meh movies / TV series. MCU then tried to anchor on Kang -- but. no go either. It's likely the next phases will be anchored by Reed - Doom feud, then Krakoa, then who knows.

I don't see Disney/Marvel correcting their downward spiral. I think Deadpool 3 will be fun though I see Marvel shoved their TVA nonsense into Deadpool 3 for no real reason other than to maybe kill off key characters with no repercussions. James Gunn totally ruined Warlock. He made him an idiot and didn't really show his power at all. In the comics Warlock went toe to to with Thanos. Also Gunn made Drax the Destroyer an idiot as well. In the comic Drax is basically indestructible. He is practically cursed. He can't really destroy Thanos but Thanos can't actually finish off Drax. Anyway, there's no sign Marvel will turn their films or tv around at all.

Good video was there a writer, or was it Ryan?

3:42 LOTR would have been a very different story if Gandalf dosed up Bilbo with Zbiotics 😂 Maybe it could have turned the Nazgûl back into humans.

How would the Eternals and Celestials all figure into all of this?

Honestly if it was just a youtube ad i wouldn't have believed it but i think that ryan has morals and would not endorse a product he doesn't believe in, it sounds too good to be true i guess i will just have to find out for myself

“Great director like Nia DaCosta” where was this great director during The Marvels?

What would have fixed the cosmic stories is Agents of SHIELD/Inhumans. The Kree created the Inhumans to fight the Skrulls. Keeping Kamala an Inhuman means she would have had more of a connection to Carol & her story with the Kree than just having light based powers.

Someone get Ryan into Feige’s DMs! This man deserves a creative director job or better at Marvel.

You should make a video about the etenenls hated but great

I really hope we get some type of version of annihilation in the movies

so long as captain kev is in 'control' o' mapping out the MCU for the next 50+ years, you all at SC will be gainfully employed......and they all rejoiced

WandaVision happened after Wanda lost her parents her twin brother and because of number 14, 000,605 lost the man she loved twice once by her own hand. Redemption arc or not how were people expecting her to just let him die a third time and and her own children to the list? Anyone who saw her reading the Darkhold in the end credit scene would say she's desperately trying to bring them back. Which explains how she was so easily corrupted to evil the next time we saw her.

I’d love them to do Annihilation or the X-Men Brood saga.

Haven’t watched the video yet just wanted to say that now the screencrush videos to are more of an event then the marvel movies ahahahahah love the channel

So when i was thin i did get hung over it was just as the aldehyde decaying process ( that gives energy) got tast that the aldehyde generating process ( that take energy)

That’s so crushly true how they messed up the cosmic stories