Why VULTURE WAS RIGHT - (and how the Avengers caused THE BLIP!)

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@uxjared Ай бұрын

I will never stop loving that Keaton went from Batman to Birdman to Vulture (to Batman again).

@ashamedrepublican1224 29 күн бұрын

Haha agreed. Birdman was good stuff

@seanbrazell7095 10 сағат бұрын

As long as he NEVER plays hawkman. SUCH a stupid looking character.

@kraigpearlman3283 Ай бұрын

Toomes did NOT get fired. He took out extra loans to pay for equipment in order to do a salvage job he was contracted. Then he lost the salvage job due to legislation. At worst, he should have been legally able to sue the state/city government to reimburse him for losses since they gave him a salvage job and then took it away.

@epicphail2926 Ай бұрын

100%

@williammorgan7769 Ай бұрын

He can’t sue. His contract with the government would allow them to nullify the contract at any time. That’s standard.

@shawn092182 Ай бұрын

And risk losing even more money on court and lawyer fees? The chance of winning his case is low, considering who he's suing.

@timthorson52 20 күн бұрын

@@williammorgan7769 He would still likely have a civil case to cover the costs of things he had already done for the job.

@greenwizardneedsfood8852 19 күн бұрын

Right? That would have made for the best movie ever🤦

@SpammytheHedgehog Ай бұрын

Vulture: I just want to provide for my family. Spider-Man: I missed the part where that's my problem.

@Planag7 Ай бұрын

@aspersiondetergent5673 13 күн бұрын

@@Planag7it works here

@_CasualJan Ай бұрын

Keaton was *brilliant* as Toombs. Like Zemo and Killmonger, you really get why he is doing what he's doing. The motivations are clear and believable. He's just turned it up to 11. Keaton really gets into it, and it's great. The nuances of his performance in the opening scene where Damage Control comes in to take over absolutely makes it. His "face acting" during his line, "I bought trucks for this job. I brought in a whole new crew, these guys have family. I have family." is great.

@SpammytheHedgehog Ай бұрын

When you realized that the Vulture could've ratted Peter Parker out to the world before Mysterio did.

@tobiaslawrence8928 Ай бұрын

But he didn't cause he wasn't trying to get recognition or fame, he was a blue collar worker and understood that, he also understood Peter was a kid.

@AlexisAdrian00 Ай бұрын

@@tobiaslawrence8928not to mention.. Peter saved his life

@AlexisAdrian00 Ай бұрын

Mind blowing 🤯

@brandonmunsen6035 Ай бұрын

We realized that when we seen the movie with vulture in the first place. Are you high?

@chrischristensen6779 Ай бұрын

when you realized that there is water in the ocean.

@Pamagu Ай бұрын

Exact same on our earth, theres enough technology and resources to feed, clothe, heal and shelter everyone yet the greed of the few wins.

@lavellehall944 13 күн бұрын

I say this all the time. They would rather make a weapon every time when some communities don't even have clean drinking water.

@motogeee510 2 күн бұрын

Yet no one has ousted any of the few to the world yet. Like tiny Tim an the scrooge.

@jabari.n Ай бұрын

vulture really was among the better marvel villains

@marcussniffles Ай бұрын

Vulture is the most underrated MCU villain. I’d argue that he’s only behind thanos

@HypocritesExposd Ай бұрын

Underrated yes. I’d argue he’s equal to or a little less than Killmonger though. They’re both really great villains. Out of all the villains the MCU should not ever kill and should reuse, those two are at the top of my list.

@deewatt Ай бұрын

Not quite

@user-mx4ky5vh8m Ай бұрын

Baron Zemo is my favorite. Very underated as well.

@MontgomeryWenis Ай бұрын

Thanos wasn't a great villain though. He was cliche and had a misplaced god complex.

@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Ай бұрын

@@HypocritesExposd I wish Vulture was in Thunderbolts, fuck Sony, and fuck Avi Arad and fuck Amy Pascal for screwing over Vulture. Pascal and Arad arent even real adults.

@ActorDudeLA Ай бұрын

We really need to do Sinister Six with Michael Keaton’s Vulture. Just saying.

@MiguelFlores77772 Ай бұрын

Faxx

@LeoChaseTheMythMaster Ай бұрын

The Sinister Six is probably one of the things I most want in live action.

@140theguy Ай бұрын

Vulture, Green Goblin, Mysterio, Venom, the Kingpin, and Ned... the Hobgoblin. 🤔

@mrschwartzmc Ай бұрын

As long as Sony doesn't have creative control.

@angelooglesby1230 Ай бұрын

@@mrschwartzmci was about to say this exact thing.

@DagNeb_It Ай бұрын

Remember Ryan, “Utopia” translated from original Greek mean “No place” or “No Where.” Which is why the Celestial head is called “Knowhere” which is the closest thing to an Utopia that Marvel has.

@robertarvanitis8852 Ай бұрын

Excellent note. More meant it would never exist.

@Byronic19134 Ай бұрын

Utopia is right off the coast of San Fran in Marvel.

@JAlonge017 Ай бұрын

@changingthelawsofphysics a e I o u and sometime y

@MontgomeryWenis Ай бұрын

Utopia would be possible, if humans weren't human.

@robertarvanitis8852 Ай бұрын

@@MontgomeryWenisBut that Utopia could never have anyone living there...

@brendanrodriguez5111 Ай бұрын

What you were saying about the villains getting their hands on supersoldier syrum and possibly multiverse quantum tech reminded me of the end of batman begins with gordon’s lines of “what about escalation? We carry semi automatics they buy automatics. We start wearing kevlar, they start wearing armor pissing rounds.”

@Zomboy123456789 Ай бұрын

"they start using armor PIERCING rounds"...

@brendanrodriguez5111 Ай бұрын

Oh sorry. It’s kind of hard to hear with garry oldmen’s british and american accent.

@motogeee510 2 күн бұрын

Your sticks an stones may break my bones but your words at best can incarcerate me an u in some places even worse yet true peace comes from finding solutions that take what is so sought after an making available to all in a fair equal an just way.

@theoutlawking9123 Ай бұрын

Vulture: The Avengers are Friggin Hypocrites! X-Men: First Time huh?

@nicholashylton6857 Ай бұрын

🤣

@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Ай бұрын

@theoutlawking9123, to be fair, I dont blame Ms.Marvel (Carol Danvers) if she is part of that Avengers hypocrisy cause she has a right to be resentful of the X-men for them being forgiving towards Mystique

@theoutlawking9123 Ай бұрын

@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Yeah, the X-Men constantly forgiving their enemies always leads to their downfall, it honestly makes them look really stupid, like Amazingly so.

@Dobbythecat123 Ай бұрын

I read that in Keaton voice

@shawn092182 Ай бұрын

@@theoutlawking9123 If they never forgave Magneto, then mutants could've gone extinct. He played a big role in defending Kitty and Wolverine from the sentinels.

@joshstephens413 Ай бұрын

I'm confused. At first, Ryan admits that Tony and the rest of the Avengers couldn't do more for the world because they are just one team and have to look at the big picture so that the planet Earth can continue even existing. Several minutes later he says, no they should have done more. So which is it? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

@motogeee510 2 күн бұрын

You can have cake an eat it too so where is the solution or compromise that makes that an option 🤔

@mohdsuliemanbinabdullah2551 Ай бұрын

Now they are 3 person in universe who right, 1) Thanos, 2) Baron Zemo 3) Adrian Toomes

@MarcSadowski Ай бұрын

Alternatively, Adrian Toomes could have sued because he would have had contracts signed to do the cleanup.

@troyhanson8639 Ай бұрын

Good point, but like in our world, I could see an out of court, hush money settlement ending the discussion quickly. Toomes would have used those funds to recuperate his business losses but the result would have been similar. If he was a heartless industrialist (which his character certainly is not), then he would have cut his losses and moved on. He seemed to care for his crew on a more personal level than that, and I could see him using the funds as well as the alien tech to better their lives anyway. Toomes is the ultimate anti-hero.

@MarcSadowski Ай бұрын

@@troyhanson8639 I like your plan! Would have made a cooler story, too :-)

@shawn092182 Ай бұрын

@@MarcSadowski That would mean spending more money that he didn't even have on court and lawyer fees. After spending a lot of money, his chances of winning the lawsuit was slim considering who he was going up against.

@akale2620 2 күн бұрын

@@shawn092182he wouldn't win, stark industries just gives him like 5 mill to settle.

@evrywerigoable Ай бұрын

Sam is broke asf! He couldn't pay for his family's boat

@johntowers1213 Ай бұрын

the single most unbelievable part of that movie...just the Marketing and IP rights of his superhero persona would have made him an eye wateringly wealthy man...not to mention he works pretty much full time for one of the worlds Richest men.

@reginesaguin1191 Ай бұрын

@@johntowers1213Two things the guys was on the run for two years and he was blipped that take a lot of money from ya

@johntowers1213 Ай бұрын

@@reginesaguin1191 he was an eye witness and combatant in Endgame where the Avengers fought off and ultimately beat Thanos...within 1 day of him being unbliped he'd have a book deal advance and a list of paid speaking engagements as long as your arm to fill in any holes in his accounts... its easier to believe his flight suit actually works than accept he couldn't afford to fix up a broken fishing boat using his name recognition alone.. there is a an ice cream flavor using his super hero IP for heavens sake...

@dellytancyl524 Ай бұрын

@@johntowers1213 I learned the hard way that you can't do any of those things if you have a security clearance, which Sam and an Air force officer and a U.S. Agent would have had to contend with. and then I learned that even if you leave service, they are security clauses you can't escape.

@johntowers1213 Ай бұрын

@@dellytancyl524 dude if Ex presidents can write tell all books and go on speaking tours with their clearance so could the Falcon...Hell Hillary Clinton was charging $650,000 a time for her speaking Engagements..its just dumb lazy writing that's all it is.... there simply is no defending it

@matthewa441 Ай бұрын

It seemed like the Avengers were busting low level hydra bases right before Age of Ultron, they were looking for Lokis schepter after SHIELD fell. Tony says "We can bust drug dealers all day king but that up there, thats the end game."

@motogeee510 2 күн бұрын

Yet in men in black cutting there heads off wasn't working either ? 😂 so does that mean the departments or writing our movies scripts?

@nicholashylton6857 Ай бұрын

Hopefully, Disney can get Vulture out of the Sony's Spiderman Centered Universe.

@theeffete3396 4 күн бұрын

Hopefully, we can get Marvel away from Disney.

@allstar2bein2023 Ай бұрын

A Dark Avengers movie leading to an Avengers team up movie sounds like a great way to set the team up before Secret Wars.

@aaronbrown9110 Ай бұрын

In Sam Wilson's "do better" speech, his loan being denied, and him getting recognition for Isaiah Bradley shows he's moving towards those steps along with Spiderman in "helping the little guy" and "friendly neighborhood Spiderman"

@zonesproductions 19 күн бұрын

Hopefully his connection to the little guy will allow his character to be different from the usual superhero way of thinking.

@MusicLover-my6fo Ай бұрын

This is the reason why Wilson Fisk is allowed to continue extorting and destroying lives, the heroes have too much "faith in the system" and refuse to see that they're not really changing anything because they refuse to take the next step. As long as they continue to be passive, criminals will always have a leg up on them in the long run.

@Ptmjeager Ай бұрын

Out of the box refreshing videos like these is why I watch your channel Ryan

@kwamintaylor4247 Ай бұрын

Magneto got everybody saying it

@mon_nobi Ай бұрын

This was such a great video, probably one of SC's best in a long time tbh. You can definitely always tell when a vid is written by Pavel T, always so well written with a good understanding of the sociological factors that make superhero stories interesting for mature audiences, incorporating analysis that manages to synthesize reasonable support for the video's central thesis and actually justifies the title of the video that could've otherwise be seen as controversial/clickbait. TL;DR, well done!!

@danaholland6686 Ай бұрын

This is the perfect lead in for several X-men villians, Master Mold, Nimrod, Bastion ect ect all based off Ultron

@MasterLarfleeze Ай бұрын

90% of marvel heros are reactive not proactive

@coachandrewb Ай бұрын

In quantumania they talk about using Pym tech to solve world food problems and energy crisis.

@sethbrundels Ай бұрын

most villains are right

@WiSims Ай бұрын

This perspective adds a lot to MCU spiderman's story arc, the trilogy ending, and I'm looking forward to what they can do with it. It puts a lot more weight on the decisions Peter made in the home trilogy (declining to be an avenger, leaving MJ & Ned alone post memory wipe, live in the crumby apartment on his own but still fight crime/corruption). We really went on the hero journey with him and saw him offered great resource to eventually turn it down to unthankfully stop crime after he realizes the weight of the loss and in real day to day what the weight of the responsibility is (not just the philosophy of it). He had access to magic spells, super tech, secret spy organizations, and high profile people. Not saying he took the journey without temptation but it was a really human story. We grow up with him and see him become "the best of us".

@motogeee510 2 күн бұрын

❤

@LeoChaseTheMythMaster Ай бұрын

At least Peter now has to deal with rent.

@joshuahenderson3444 Ай бұрын

Lets not forget about Kingpin he’s also a part of the street level conflict along with both Vulture and Zemo

@joshuahenderson3444 Ай бұрын

And btw the Dark Avengers are more like the heroes of Vought Industries from The Boys

@santelmolafire Ай бұрын

It’s scope vs spectrum. Collectively, every human’s intention inherently is the good for one another, as any hero should think. They and the Vulture are alike, but the Vulture’s scope at the moment is his own and his family’s well-being, a deed he got blinded by in the end. His spite on the Avengers and those in power is their mistake on utilizing their scope as they are deemed powerful and privileged, which is a fallacy. Not every hero (street level guys like Spidey and the MCU Defenders) can think about the well-being of everyone at a given time. Even worse, only a small number of them can be heard to make a big difference (the case of Falcon/Captain America over GRC’s policies until a threat like the Flag Smashers came knocking). Heroes in the MCU have always been portrayed as reactive heroes which is a sort of literary symbol of how the real world usually just reacts to something bad happening rather than preventative (except Tony). Their spectrum are the same but their scope are different, and in the case of the heroes, misunderstood. This is also why relatable villains are the best ones, coz there’s nothing more gripping than an audience divided between the protagonist and the antagonist.

@BAYBAY_316 Ай бұрын

Mission accomplished. I am all aboard the Vulture train.

@MystifiedBeef Ай бұрын

I honestly want the MCU to have J. Jonah Jameson be against the idea of heroes and have some of the stuff featured in this video as his reasoning.

@catsithx Ай бұрын

Well the thing is luke cagw. Called them out one about being a ivory tower team. That once in a while they need to see the little people.

@schadzwanazmy7921 Ай бұрын

Someone is pissed.

@KD-ho5ze Ай бұрын

I feel like this video inadvertently explained the possible overarcing theme of phases 4-6. It seemed that the goals of the heroes are too scattered and spread thin that has unlcear ways of leading up to the next Avengers film, but people failed to recognize that the build up is happening on the government's side, leading up to the formation of Dark Avengers. Just like SHIELD in the infinity saga, DODC has been in a lot of these current productions.

@spazheavy Ай бұрын

I hope that we get a Norman Osborn’s Iron Patriot from the dark avengers

@shawn092182 Ай бұрын

One thing that you're forgetting, Oscorp doesn't exist in the 616 universe.

@chrizmerk756 9 күн бұрын

I think Kingpin will become president and form the Dark Avengers

@chriswilliams8159 Ай бұрын

The Avengers don't defend the earth and humanity, I mean it sure looks like they do, but more than that, they defend the status quo. It's almost always the antagonist who try to change things in a fundamental way. The only exception to this rule I've found is Captain America when he decides not to salvage anything left of SHEILD but demolish it completely in the Winter Soldier movie, my favorite solo outing in the MCU.

@PJAvenger Ай бұрын

Tony is a philanthropist who funded a boatload of R&D at MIT. Surely that would result in some betterment. The rest of the Avengers don't have that kind of money, what do you expect them to do? Soup kitchens? Cap did all of those PSA's for high schools. Spidey made public appearances for community charity. Other real life multi-billionaires do the same thing today, except Musk who just likes to blast off rockets - which aren't even electric.

@donalny 10 күн бұрын

now you're getting into topics like "does philanthropy really help or is it just a way to put bandaids on without addressing real structural issues?"

@TheRedBard Ай бұрын

It IS worth noting that in the comic version of Civil War 1 it was Tony and not Fury who implemented the '50 State Initiative' which attempted to organize an official Avengers team for each state to reduce the strain on the main team and shorten response times, as well as have the public feel more personally connected with their local super heroes. This was probably the last really well fleshed out major crossover event in the last few years of comics, a lot of material went down hill after Dark Avengers and Avengers Vs X-Men

@itsdantaylor Ай бұрын

14:43 Sam also, by extension, got duped into working for the person who helped cause all the entire mess as Sharon Carter was the one providing Super Soldier Serum to agitants and then basically used Falcon and Winter Soldier to cover up her involvement, all to get her un/blacklisted by the US.

@hoytoy100 Ай бұрын

So Zemo and vulture team up and start a popular class war- like in the falcon and winter soldier show. Problem is should hero’s fight the people they are supposed to defend for class status?? Deep concept and brings the story back to a relatable earth.

@DatBoiGloomy Ай бұрын

An MCU show with the villains as the protagonists with one of the avengers as the antagonist could be really cool. In the bigger picture the avengers side of the battle is still in the right but we get to see it from the villains pov. That would be dope

@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Ай бұрын

@@DatBoiGloomy I wish Vulture was in Thunderbolts, fuck Sony, and fuck Avi Arad and fuck Amy Pascal for screwing over Vulture. Pascal and Arad arent even real adults.

@OkamiSatsujin Ай бұрын

I watched GOTG3 again recently and was reminded that Gamora comes from a timeline that no longer exists. Would love to blame that on the Avengers, but didn't Thanos use Pym Particles to come to the battle at Endgame? Sure, the world was already in process of incurring an incursion, but the TVA says the Avengers were supposed to time travel, but say nothing about Thanos, who was inevitable. Gamora should be dead, Peter even questioned it in GOTG3. Idk what it could mean either that she's alive, other than being a different Gamora all together.

@christopherferrero4914 Ай бұрын

Look at it from the total view of loki at the end of time, from the perspective of a in-universe character, time is linear, but outside of time, any changes have "always been". Whatever happens to the timelines/universes, those inside don't know a difference, everything just is or isn't. So from a total view, that timeline that the new Gamora is from is probably still there, but during endgame it probably got pruned by the tva once the avengers snapped the nexus-causing beings and returned the infinited stones. Any changes to that timeline were always planned from the beginning, since it was part of He Who Remain's plan. Once loki became the ruler of the timelines that "prunning" was not essential anymore as he's protecting the making of any new branches from now on.

@BrDavid1 Ай бұрын

Is this why Peter Parker refused the new Spider-Man out at the end of Homecoming at the new Avenger’s facility? Let’s not get too big too soon is the thought…

@PPblitto Ай бұрын

To me, one strange aspect of these Marvel movies is that the societal questioning and status quo challenges usualy comes from the villains. It's not hard to see something like this in the plot of these movies: "Oh, they were in the right path, it's a shame that some individuals got corrupted by selfish reasons in the process. Anyways, let's stick with what we were doing and hope things workout whithout, at least, having some meaningful and impactiful changes to the world. Thanks Avengers for getting rid of this villains!". It's like it's easier to imagine a bunch of aliens in far galaxies blasting rays of energy from their eyes than to imagine a decline to social disparity or hungry here on our very real planet.

@michaelkelsay4559 Ай бұрын

I think that vulture was a very honest villain and I think it was obvious that tombes was absolutely right and he was the perfect “villain” for first Spider-Man just because he was financially motivated and not world take over bound

@dragonballradiant2744 Ай бұрын

Punisher and Deadpool better join the thunderbolts

@UnratedRetribution Ай бұрын

This was pretty deep and I loved it! Well done guys!

@Socksydeeryenaboi Ай бұрын

Maybe with the Avengers they’ll create a branch that specifically deals with crime

@Justtalkingbricks Ай бұрын

Great video guys - I love these kind of chats / thoughts / ideas, they are like the flip side of the coin or the stuff that goes on outside of frame from the films. With the Hawkeye series I thought we would get a lot of stories about what happened after the blip and the reappearance of people. Do more of this type of piece - very thought provoking 👍

@joshuahenderson3444 Ай бұрын

You know…. Despite all their power no matter how much they save the world or the universe you would think with all the resources they would have done something to improve society down to earth but instead… the heroes have became ignorant to pass the time with something thats more important than a street criminal

@jrmorales86 Ай бұрын

this is what happens when your superhero movies have to be approved by the US military

@phredbookley183 Ай бұрын

The very concept of Las Vegas blows my mind. It shows that we can turn even a desert with a sprawling city. Imagine if you had Stark Tech? Floating cities? Islands out of thin air? I remember him mentioning "Intelli-crops" in part one. Imagine a world where literally no one goes hungry again.

@shawn092182 Ай бұрын

Floating cities? Did you forget what happened to the helicarrier in Avengers 1?

@MADSCIENTISTGONESANE6166 11 күн бұрын

Mentioning that no one would go hungry again, isn't that what Thanos was trying to do and prevent.🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨

@johnpittsii7524 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the breakdown Ryan

@Sjono Ай бұрын

What do people expect the Avengers to do about making a way of life better? There’s only so much that 6-14 individuals can do on that level That sounds like that “You need to do better Senator. You need to step up” nonsense

@JDog2656 Ай бұрын

Agreed. I don't know what you want them to do, but it sounds more like trying to blame someone for your own problems.

@taelucky Ай бұрын

There are arguments. Here's one, at the end of Iron Man 3 Tony actually fixed extremis, and probably got it to a point that it would have operated in the best manner which would've revolutionized their world. The one the Shield show had was flawed if I remember correctly. I may be missing some things. Pym Particles would have changed earth forever in the positive. Wakanda has the resources to change earth forever. Asgard couldve done amazing things for earth. The Avengers dropped the ball in a lot of ways. That's why they'll never be better than thr X Men. For all their flaws they still try to heal the world for those who are again them an aren't like them an are more relatable than the Avengers. To be super powered beings they're more human than anyone on the Avengers.

@underhill31 Ай бұрын

There's a lot that 6-14 individuals can do, though. Take Tony for example. In a single action, he could release a patent for the arc reactor into the public domain and solve a ton of problems. The world gets relatively clean energy, for virtually free costs. This would have far reaching ramifications. Water and food shortages could largely be solved by this because now we can power desalinization plants and just physically pump the water to places that need it. Sure, the plants and pipelines cost money, but now that energy is basically free, that frees up the monetary resources to do this. Climate change to a large degree is also solved. Arguably the biggest driver of inflation lately and certainly THE biggest factor in market volatility goes poof. Now yeah, other countries and militaries would also weaponize it similar to how Tony himself weaponized the technology. Not every change and ramification is a good one. However, if you ask the 4/8 billion people on the planet if those risks are worth the other rewards, it would be a resounding yes. Is Tony building and installing every single reactor in every single city? No. There'd be millions of people involved. But it all starts with the actions of just one person. Imagine how many work injuries could be solved with anti-gravity tools? In general, go watch most Marvel movies and essentially the message largely boils down to protecting the status quo is good, disrupting the status quo is bad.

@davidruffin473 Ай бұрын

I see why off World stores are more appealing. Imagine having to explain the economy in the films of Heroes

@goatmanis1 Ай бұрын

Excellent video

@malik6091 Ай бұрын

Yall deserve more views frfr

@BetterThenIncredible Ай бұрын

This video is exactly why i love this channel!

@IsiahBradley Ай бұрын

THANKS for this, Doug and Ryan!!!! I hope the MCU honchos are watching and thinking and planning and....

@whomilloo Ай бұрын

if Reed Richards were in the MCU they wouldn't have these problems 😂

@M0RGAT0RY Ай бұрын

"Hot Dog" - my cat

@UnanimousDelivers Ай бұрын

SUPERPRIVILEGE I love it. Did someone quote that?

@asprywrites6327 Ай бұрын

Your arguments were excellent. Might be the first time I agreed with almost everything you said. You had some "Maybe So-And-So Was Right" that totally reached for the moon, but this one was quite good.

@jeffreycarman2185 Ай бұрын

I can’t wait to see what is next for the MCU.

@SuperGothDog 5 күн бұрын

The series Avengers World that spun out of the Hickman run on Avengers/New Avengers kind of did exactly what you spoke about.

@DRossGaming Ай бұрын

What a great video. So much truth and the MCU has changed so much. We need to get back to our roots baby!

@joer1513 Ай бұрын

Great video!

@SGTOutstandingInField 25 күн бұрын

Always a good video when Ryan doesn’t make a “your mom” bait and switch joke.

@johncorvo5520 22 күн бұрын

God, I am loving this video. Stephen Strange was the adult when Peter asked him a favor. He couldn't ask Peter did you talk to them?

@ScreenCrush Ай бұрын

What other villains were right?

@SpammytheHedgehog Ай бұрын

Zemo and Michael Keaton's Batman.

@brandonmunsen6035 Ай бұрын

Thanos

@danielhenderson3753 Ай бұрын

Flint Marko. He just made some bad allegiances.

@danielhenderson3753 Ай бұрын

Magneto consistently has better arguments and proof than Charles Xavier.

@Game_Cozy Ай бұрын

Killmonger

@Twtybird1 Ай бұрын

3:03 Bokeem Woodbine, a diamond of an actor

@loveseekerguy Ай бұрын

Like if you think Natasha was the best avenger and the glue. Not Tony. It was her who kept them together.

@CultureHealers Ай бұрын

You do get a ground level view of the devastation in Endgame

@BretMuckdogs Ай бұрын

Thanks Ryan!

@user-xp3mn9we3m Ай бұрын

I'm already pumped for the Doom was right video in five years

@frankenviews4069 Ай бұрын

I think we're missing just how bad the situation was for Earth. Without Cap, Hydra would have won WW2. Bye bye America. Without the Avengers, the aliens would have conquered Earth and Thanos would still get all the Infinity Stones but no one would be around to reverse it. Compared to that, I think what the Vultures of the world got wasn't so bad after all.

@jagnestormskull3178 Ай бұрын

Yep. It's not the job of the Avengers to improve the world, they protect it.

@akale2620 2 күн бұрын

The reason the vultures keep crying about injustice is bcz they are small short sighted lepers. That's why Thanos tells Tony they both are cursed with knowledge.

@letmeengineeru2770 Ай бұрын

My view on Avengers changes so suddenly after I watched this. They are more villainous than a heroes.

@user-xp3mn9we3m Ай бұрын

Here's something people don't talk about: the Young Avengers might actually be the Champions...the Avengers failure to improve the quality of life on earth that Ryan describes is an issue in the comics as well, and that's why Ms Marvel breaks off from the Avengers and forms the champions. She is also forming the team in the MCU, but it consists of young Avengers members. So it might be like a combination of the two teams.

@jacobharvey2946 Ай бұрын

I’m waiting on a joke about a team up… don’t disappoint me guys.

@MontgomeryWenis Ай бұрын

Peter didn't think of the rest of the world when he went to Dr Strange because he's a fucking teenager. Selfish tunnel vision is their CLICHE weakness. 🤦🏼

@darkheartlost5826 Ай бұрын

This is why we need S.H.I.E.L.D. Back Nothing was beneath them They just had the weight of the world against them Everyone was hunting them, and the threats kept getting bigger, and bigger They were finally reestablished in the wake of the Secovia Accords, and the break up of the Avengers Only for Coulsons group to . . . Ahhhh. . . . Warp out of our MCU, and into a few other timelines/universe’s??? But We need Shield Back They kept the world safe, nothing was beneath them, and they ultimately saved the world more than the Avenger’s ever did

@NoWay1969 Ай бұрын

This video is wonderful. Spot on. I am so excited to for the next Spider-Man movie because it looks like it's going to bring some of the pathos that the Sam/Toby movies had back.

@kiddCali619 Ай бұрын

Crazy because DCs The Justice League did exactly what you mentioned in reference to sub divisions within the organization

@mmclaurin8035 3 күн бұрын

I always thought that if the Vulture had gone to the media or contacted Tony in some way, explaining that he is ruined because of the formation of Damage Control, that Tony would have helped him out. Instead, he just instantly became a super villain.

@kevinmurry8803 Ай бұрын

Interesting. The difference between protecting the world and making it a better place.

@TheIronBlerdz Ай бұрын

The only thing I can think of is the avenger we're all dealing with their own trauma which is why they didn't consider other stuff I mean hawkeye and Banner never really wanted to be heroes in the 1st place they just wanted to live and be left alone thor lost his whole family and was really only on earth by chance and then Jane Tony had space ptsd and when they tried it blew up into heir faces so maybe their trauma held then back from doing more just a thought

@arlenparker5138 Ай бұрын

Well, in the first avengers Nick Fury was working on weaponizing alien tech and used it to revive Coulson; He also created (with help of the scrulls) the harvest. Not the grearest of plots but as usual is always ahead of the curve. Fury sees the bigger picture and if he wanted could get the avengers to do better.

@michaeldublg Күн бұрын

Wow. This tank on The Avengers reminds me of that one video that twists The Narrative on Karate Kid making Daniel the bad guy and Johnny Lawrence into the good guy?

@ContagiousChameleon Ай бұрын

This reminds of the comics crossover between the Avengers and the Justice League, where the JLA is surprised that the Avengers haven't improved their earth.

@xxPenjoxx Ай бұрын

I love the merch, can you please make it available internationally.

@Seeker64 3 күн бұрын

this was something that Jim Starlin explored a little in the Death of Captain Marvel. they rallied around to find a cure for the cancer killing Mar-Vell, and wimdered if they could do this, why have they not been working on a cancer cure all along.

@StephenLeGresley 17 күн бұрын

Btw, this also calls back to Avengers Vs X-Men where Cyclops called out Captain America because The Avengers have never done anything to help Mutants and their suffering. This is one of the many great things about the X-Men, they've gone on missions to save just one person before. They don't ignore the little guy because as rich as Xavier is, he sees all mutants and humans as important. I think this is also why people tend to connect more with a street level hero like Daredevil then more god like heroes like Thor.

@jimmyhu6014 Ай бұрын

To be fair in Antman and Wasp Quantumania it's revealed that Hope VanDyne is using her company and intelligence to aid in reforestation, affordable housing, and food production. Also Tony in Captain America Civil War was finding college students' research projects. So I wouldn't say they weren't doing anything on the community scale.

@0uas 29 күн бұрын

I understand this thinking exactly

@In_the_Pod Ай бұрын

Hope/Wasp is out there trying to do good with her tech.

@mateuscafal Ай бұрын

This would be a great theme to touch in those future fantastic four movies! The avengers are an elite strike force, what Ultron said to captain america is actually valid to all of them: They could not live without a war. The avengers don’t go out doing research and discovering cures for diseases and etc. Maybe Bruce and Tony, but that wasn’t the focus of their work. Reed and the FF could fill this place and be a team that worries about the future of the world and the people living in it

@9vHeart 20 күн бұрын

This is a good point about superhero fights. How many people died in Johannesburg when the Avengers captured the Hulk in Age of Ultron? My estimation is at least hundreds if not thousands.