SCREWing Around with a $20K Pellet Extruder - Large Format 3D Printer (Part 7)

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Dr. D-Flo

Dr. D-Flo

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This behemoth boasts a flow rate of over 5 kg/hr., chewing through and spitting out material faster than any desktop 3D printer.
Large Format 3D Printer Build Series: • Large Format 3D Printe...
Screw Extrusion Guide: www.drdflo.com/Extrusion.html
Electrical Cabinet Building: drdflo.com/Electrical-Cabinet...
Basics of Screw Extrusion Video: • How to Extrude 3D Prin...
Featured Products:
MDPE10 Screw Extruder: massivedimension.com/products...
IC3D's Recycled PETG: www.ic3dprinters.com/shop/rec...
Brady 210 Labeler: amzn.to/45sHjeK
LED Sheets: amzn.to/4b3HPAY
Table of Contents:
00:00 - Introduction
00:46 - Filament vs. Pellet Extruder
02:23 - MDPE10
03:39 - Screw
05:35 - Heating Zones
06:29 - Pellet Feeding
07:30 - Motor
08:23- Cost
09:01 - New Electrical Cabinet
20:10 - Temperature Probes
24:15 - “Tap” Probing
24:56 - Lattice Sleeve
26:43 - LEDS
28:36 - Umbilical Cable Management
29:10 - Testing Max Extrusion
31:18 - Benchy
35:19 - Corner Flower Planter
In this video, we'll explore how this extruder achieves such a massive throughput, including a detailed look at its features and a custom-built electrical cabinet to power its hefty needs. I'll walk you through the setup, wiring, and some incredible test prints that push my large format 3D printer to its limits. Plus, we'll compare it to the smaller MDPH2 and discuss the unique benefits of a larger screw extruder. Don't miss out on seeing this powerhouse in action!

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@LincolnWorld
@LincolnWorld 12 күн бұрын
"Bigger printer, bigger problems" tends to be the case. I'm so glad I didn't order the orange one. Amazing what you've' done with your giant one, and that extruder was impressive as well.
@danielmikkelsen2476
@danielmikkelsen2476 12 күн бұрын
Really awesome job, but it kind of killed me internally that the on/off switch is rotated a little to the left, hih...
@JoshuaLotion
@JoshuaLotion 11 күн бұрын
For all the shit that’s on KZfaq I’m always in disbelief that we have access to this level of content for free. I always swallow your videos right up when they’re released.
@Studio23Media
@Studio23Media 2 күн бұрын
Same. This is higher education level content FOR FREE 🤯
@210Artemka
@210Artemka 12 күн бұрын
How much for an electric cabinet?! We are buying similar size ones, outdoor rated with DIN rails inside for 300-400$…
@ArticTiger
@ArticTiger 12 күн бұрын
Now print yourself an electrics box :D awesome job this looks sick!
@killsalot78
@killsalot78 12 күн бұрын
best part about PETG is it can handle being blow torched to remove strings, then your vine racks/shelf backers wouldn't be covered in spider webs 😏 still dope regardless, epic progress and functional AF
@Ckpe4
@Ckpe4 12 күн бұрын
I think, for this scale you will need a flamethrower
@rsmeaton
@rsmeaton 11 күн бұрын
They'll get covered in spiderwebs regardless. Might as well be preemptive about it.
@ttfranks952
@ttfranks952 6 күн бұрын
Very Nice Job ! This size printer really shows up the errors with the size of the extrude being 5mm. ( Helps me realize the errors in my smaller printer) Loved the Planter setup .Very ingenious !
@wrxsubaru02
@wrxsubaru02 12 күн бұрын
Bro is gonna be printing houses after a few more upgrades to this printer. lol
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker 12 күн бұрын
coming soon, the doc asking Mrs. Flo for 440v 3ph for his Bday. Or a 100A sub panel just for the printer.
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
I don't need a sub panel if we dedicate all existing circuits to the garage! Who needs AC or washing machines... 😂
@BelviGER
@BelviGER 12 күн бұрын
Fun fact, some large industrial exteuders only use their heating zones for the initial heating up I have a 2ton and a 6ton/h PET extruder, and both actively cool the barrel during normal operation, all the energy comes from the screw
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 9 күн бұрын
Very cool! If you are able, please post some pictures to the forum: forum.drdflo.com/c/screw-extrusion/26
@vincentbelpois2600
@vincentbelpois2600 12 күн бұрын
Why not put a pulley in the ceiling and put the cable retractors the other way? You might gain 20 or 30cm that way
@dmax9324
@dmax9324 8 күн бұрын
Awesome video, kept me very much hooked the whole way through. Can't wait to see more upgrades. Just plain incredible work and thoroughly impressive just how many specialties you've needed to master to be able to do a project like this.
@1pierce158
@1pierce158 12 күн бұрын
For the cables what about adding eyelet/loop for the tension cable to string through first then attack to its current mount so it pulls accros two or more points. Or even make a block and tackle out of the tension cable if it has length that’ll do it for sure lol so it would loop around its current mount point seen at 29:08 then up to the retractable spool with a pully wheel ore metal loop there too then back to where the other bit is sagging
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I have added it to my notes
@brianswille
@brianswille 12 күн бұрын
This is so cool. Love the final print project in the end. It's very sharp!
@hellterminator
@hellterminator 8 күн бұрын
A little tip on soldering those cup terminals: The easiest way to get a perfect joint every time is to tin the wire, then heat the cup from the side, melt it full of solder, stick the pre-tinned wire in and let it cool. If you want a visual guide, I believe the PACE soldering tutorial showcases this method.
@nak_attak
@nak_attak 11 күн бұрын
These videos are so educational and informative. Thanks!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 9 күн бұрын
You are still killing it. I love your content.
@redskyreconn744
@redskyreconn744 12 күн бұрын
Save some for the rest of us my guy!! Super clean and for sure a little flex on the skillz 🤙
@qwertbochaffer
@qwertbochaffer 12 күн бұрын
I just ordered an AvidCNC benchtop pro CNC router with a 4hp/3kW spindle. I got it in the mail the other day and the spindle was surprisingly compact and it's about 9kg or 19lbs. The fact that this pellet extruder is 13kg is absolutely bonkers! At least I have the power requirements beat...
@stevvieb
@stevvieb 10 күн бұрын
Talk about bringing a drawing to life. Nailed it.
@lpka
@lpka 10 күн бұрын
You are one crazy consistent well knowledged individual. Keep the momentom!
@dondec
@dondec 11 күн бұрын
So interesting, so amazing. Nothing like this anywhere else.
@youtubehandlesux
@youtubehandlesux 12 күн бұрын
32:42 orca slicer has a setting called extrusion rate smoothing, set it to a low number might help
@yellowcrescent
@yellowcrescent 12 күн бұрын
Very nice cabinet build! The "big enough" cabinet doesn't exist. lol. Brady also make Permasleeve label rolls (heat shrink tubes), which are really nice for signal connections (pricey, but nice. I still use the self-laminating labels for bigger diameter wires though). Something you might want to consider are pluggable MOVs/surge suppresors. I had one of my Mesa modules destroyed by a lightning strike (and can only presume it came through the DC power supply). ProSurge SP150 or similar are fairly inexpensive. My cabinet is connected via a dedicated 30A/120V circuit using a circular L5-30P connector, so can't use a typical surge protector. The Omron E5CC series (specifically: E5CC-QX2ASM-802 or similar) has the same form-factor as the AutomationDirect temp controller modules, but they support full RS-485 control. I got a couple off ebay a while back new-in-box for around $120/ea (just make sure you double-check the part number -- most for sale don't have RS-485 support). I know you already fixed the temp issue -- but they are pretty cool if you need them in the future, and they support all types of themocouples, RTDs, and PT100 probes. AutomationDirect's "standard" temp controllers also support RS-485, but haven't looked into them too deeply.
@lynnwilliam
@lynnwilliam 9 күн бұрын
Those layer lines are breaking my 💜.
@penguiin12
@penguiin12 12 күн бұрын
thanks again Dr. DeezNuts
@AaronALAI
@AaronALAI 11 күн бұрын
Dude....this is beautiful 😮❤️
@wrxsubaru02
@wrxsubaru02 12 күн бұрын
HOA gonna love that build at the end. 😂
@dopeylee9223
@dopeylee9223 8 күн бұрын
You should check out the V-Spooler Easy Motor Drive. It uses a nema 17 stepper motor to drive the Spooler instead of a drill. I also recommend the Quiet Roller mod.
@AlexSwavely
@AlexSwavely 12 күн бұрын
Industrial machines often use multiple retractors and/or raceways to keep long cables/hoses out of the way of moving machinery. You could do similar by pulling up the cables closer to the head and pulling them towards the back further away
@karlh6692
@karlh6692 12 күн бұрын
Have you looked at extruding filament on demand? The print head could still use a filament but the pellet extruder is a bench top machine making filament on demand. Since printing uses variable flow an accumulator for the filament could be used. It looks like a rope block and tackle but it is on a sliding frame so you move the pulley sets (block) in and out to accumulate filament. (See if you can spot the guy who did a school science project at a nylon carpet factory). It would be a great add on for filament hungry printers. A cheaper method would be to make 100kg spools and just use a motorized decoiler that is triggered by the sag in the loop between it and the printer. much like the decoilers used in sheet metal stamping machines. Are you using the helical rack and pinion slides?
@djjudd566
@djjudd566 11 күн бұрын
Also, with that amount of molten material being extruded, you might could benefit from chilled air from an air conditioner or chiller to blow across the bed (or if you're feeling up to the challenge, directly from the cooling fans on the nozzle.) That way you would have sub-ambient air blowing on the print.
@acozad1
@acozad1 10 күн бұрын
So I may completely out of my element here. But maybe running a CPAP to the toolhead for better cooling to cool down the plastic faster. Just an idea. Great video.
@jlg23us
@jlg23us 10 күн бұрын
Great work, that's a ton of hours.
@antonsemenyura5337
@antonsemenyura5337 12 күн бұрын
Such an inspiration! Amazed by knowledge, skills, planning and execution of the this pricey project!
@JamesTenniswood
@JamesTenniswood 11 күн бұрын
Honey, I've spent $25,000 to make a $50 planter. 😂 But seriously, love the work
@djjudd566
@djjudd566 11 күн бұрын
for the slack/retractable line, can you use the same hardware you have now, but route it through a pully directly mounted to the ceiling and the retractor mounted to the side a little bit? That might get you like 10-12" more inches based on how it looks on the footage. (Since you won't have the body of the retractor in between the slack of the line and the ceiling.
@fouzaialaa7962
@fouzaialaa7962 12 күн бұрын
i think your over cooking the plastic ,you pumped too much heat into the plastic that its boiling and bubbling and the 3 fans cant take the heat out of the plastic before it deforms. try more torque with less heat . also you might have a "bigger is better " problem, 20k is crazy for a 3D printer , i dont know if this is your extruder or if its a review unit but you can probably drop 2 Kg or more if you remove all the useless metal sheet and connectors off the extruder awesome video .always glad to see what crazy thing your up to.
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
When I crank the metering/nozzle temperature zone up to 230-240C, you can clearly see that the material is degrading (significant voids and off-gassing). However, the planter was printed at 205C, and really there was no other signs of degradation. However, the recycled plastic feedstock is quite contaminated, there are black specs and small pieces of cardboard/wood that I have been unable to completely sieve out. It could be this material that this burning in small quantities, but I am still not convinced it doesn't have something to do with the humidity in my garage and the ease at which polyesters absorb water.
@BelviGER
@BelviGER 12 күн бұрын
Nah, recycled material tends to be garbage. Chemically degraded, not entirely pure etc Viscosity drops every time you extrude plastic
@greenboy3d
@greenboy3d 12 күн бұрын
Looks interesting
@WoLpH
@WoLpH 11 күн бұрын
I think there's a far simpler solution for the cable umbilical, put a pipe or something at the top that it can roll over and add a small weight so the umbilical is in constant tension. No motors, retraction mechanisms or springs required that way.
@rexxx927
@rexxx927 12 күн бұрын
would love to see a back pressure gauge on there "dynisco" makes the best ones also drying your materials may have helped with the under extrusions too
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
I agree... the back pressure gauge could also be a way to pause the printer if the pellets bridge in the feed throat or the extruder becomes plugged. Any change in barrel pressure usually indicates a problem.
@digitalsparky
@digitalsparky 12 күн бұрын
Could always build a big screw drive to pull the pellets from a bucket up to the top, pouring into the funnel as a result.
@Ruben-nk7wh
@Ruben-nk7wh 12 күн бұрын
It´s a nice project, but for this size it´s normal for some one with not much knowledge from the begin, that Problems be there. Ich freuhe mich schon auf das nächste was du verbessern kannst.
@ikcinbeatz4365
@ikcinbeatz4365 9 күн бұрын
I just watch homies videos and pretend like I understand what he is talking about.
@joshuahuman1
@joshuahuman1 12 күн бұрын
while the points you put forward about a tidy electrical cabinet are completely valid. I was always always taught that you keep the wiring tidy to quickly troubleshoot and fix issues. Granted my experience comes from a custom automation system integrator that does a lot of auto industry work where downtime can cost 10-20k a minute.
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
Yes! Troubleshooting is a major reason for going the extra mile on wire management. And wow that sounds like high pressure work
@joshuahuman1
@joshuahuman1 11 күн бұрын
@@DrDFlo It usually wasn't too bad but it had its moments. Fortunately I was on the build team and we typically built the equipment in our own shop then tore it down and shipped it for the install. The real heroes are those who work maintenance in these factories.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 12 күн бұрын
Hi there! I am following your videos on this huge printer… and, please try to not get upset with me, I ask myself how much you invested already in this machine… and beginning to be skeptical if it will print nice at some point. 😳 It looks an insanely cool project - but in the end, how it prints is what matters, right? Have you printed a Benchy this size on the OrangeStorm Giga?
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
You don't think the corner flower planter looks nice?? I joke... but yes, the benchy doesn't look particularly nice, but you can't compare it to the Giga. That benchy weighs 7 kg (15 lbs), which would cost over $100 to print on the Giga and take over a week. The recycled pellets were only a couple of dollars total (but were contaminated which led to some of my problems). The benefit of pellet extruders is massive flow rates and cheap feedstock. The drawback is resolution/detail. For large objects like the planter and my boat that is currently printing, quality is about what I expected.
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 күн бұрын
@@DrDFloFair enough… but the extruder itself is extremely expensive: 20k dollars 🤯 Is that right? (That would buy a lot of filament). And SO massive/heavy that printing directly from it in the print-head will be a limiting factor in speed/acceleration/stability. Maybe it would be possible (although very tricky to control) to use it on top of the printer to fabricate the filament you use - on the fly - and use a much smaller and lightweight printhead to actually do the quality print. You will still discover if clients (or yourself) will be satisfied with such irregular prints - even though they are massive and arguably cheaper than with a different setup. Maybe manufacturing your own filament in house would be the solution for having a huge printer - not necessarily making it happen in the printhead itself. Good luck my friend. I am skeptical - but I find it fascinating nonetheless. ❤
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 11 күн бұрын
@@DrDFloI forgot to ask: 7 times the size of the original Benchy - total weight: 7kg? How much time it took to print? Thanks!
@billyjoe3309
@billyjoe3309 11 күн бұрын
Watch and learn kids: It's peolple like Dr. D-Flo who invent stuff like Fusion and other world changing inventions!
@oleksij-hd6qb
@oleksij-hd6qb 12 күн бұрын
you might have bought too small of a cabin again. jk, great video as always and thanks for those blog posts
@dev-debug
@dev-debug 12 күн бұрын
I used to build powder coating ovens for people. Not massive but good sized, 6ft tall and 4ft square, the electrics and panel boxes were always a big cost of the builds. What they charge for those empty steel boxes seems idiotic considering they are just stamped steel and spot welded. If I had a good box brake I would have made my own.
@ErtsenPlayGames
@ErtsenPlayGames 6 күн бұрын
0:48....vulcano cht nozzle = 70mm3s: super vulcano with dual vulcano cht inside (one "nozzle" without the tip act like a spacer) And you have almost 200mm3s (but try to keep it hot...in reality more like 150mm3+) It is possible to use multiple spools at once (few extruders , few heating zones , single nozzle...like in old multi colour nozzles ) to go over 500mm3s easly for pretty cheap , but it will be behemoth of a hotend (dont ask me how i know that , lets just say my smallest oldest (10y+) printer have 500mm+/- xyz and printed molds for composites)
@michaelbraaten
@michaelbraaten 12 күн бұрын
Speaking about the Brady labeler… I work as a low voltage electrician, so we use wraparounds all day. Brady labelers are okay, but you should check out the Panduit MP300. Our company switched to them sometime recently and they’ve been great. Easier to use/format labels, and the labels themselves are nicer.
@brianpennington4202
@brianpennington4202 12 күн бұрын
I love that theirs is are label makers that everyone knows, label makers that are above and beyond that but pricy (Brady) and label makers above THAT that are nearly $500. For every tool there is an industrial version you don’t even know about for 10x the cost.
@frederickott9126
@frederickott9126 11 күн бұрын
Nice project. Not sure what’s is going on with the pricing of these things where you are located but the robot shown is a abb irb 2400 or 4400 which costs more like 50k brand new with the controller and some extra options here in Germany and the cabinet costs more like 200 -300 bucks.
@arbider
@arbider 2 күн бұрын
Exquisite
@philipashmore
@philipashmore 10 күн бұрын
What about a bowden fed extruder that melts multiple filaments out of one nozzle? 5mm filament has a cross sectional area of ~15.7mm2. 2.85mm filament has a csa of ~8.95mm2, 1.75mm filament has a csa of ~5.5mm2. To match or exceed the 5mm filament csa you would need 2x2.85mm filament feeds or 3x1.75mm feeds. You could roll your own filament from pellets or buy it.
@GeekOfAllThings
@GeekOfAllThings 11 күн бұрын
I don't know if this extruder or the control software you use would support it, but would you be able to use a shut-off like what is used in injection molding machines? It would prevent most stringing and may be able to help with pressure drop from constantly stopping the screw, especially if this extruder has a pressure sensor the control software could use. I kinda wondered if you would be able to use this for injection molding, but without a retracting injection screw it wouldn't get a high enough injection speed, and you would need a lot more down force than this setup would allow.
@electricalychalanged4911
@electricalychalanged4911 12 күн бұрын
It seems at this size just using an industrial robot arm givies higher precision and even bigger build volume and depending on the model way higher speeds. You just can not diy it like you did with your gantry system. Still cool though
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
Completely agree 👍
@BeardedPrinter
@BeardedPrinter 12 күн бұрын
I wanna see you put that beast on an Ender 3. You'd probably only be able to utilize a max of 10% of the build plate
@cybernetix86
@cybernetix86 12 күн бұрын
it's impressive to watch it do the first layer. It looks like a line of toothpaste. Would a pair of CPAP help as a cooling fan?
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
So part cooling has been kind of a headache... A lot of air flow is needed to cool those thick layer lines on overhangs and short layer times, but I have found that running the fans at max speed near the bed can lead to adhesion issues even for PETG.
@jzagaja
@jzagaja 9 күн бұрын
Have you got a jam in screw and how easy was to remove the screw then?
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 9 күн бұрын
Screw is incredibly easy to remove. You have access to the back tang of the screw, so it can be tapped out with a brass screw driver.
@sevilnatas
@sevilnatas 12 күн бұрын
I wonder, in the future, on prints like your patio planter shelf, an intentional texture or pattern would "camouflage" the layer line imperfections? Like a simulated wood pattern or something completely inorganic. Just a thought.
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
Yes - great idea! While the layer lines will always be noticeable when printing at a 2 mm layer height, they were particularly obvious with this recycled PETG filament, which contained contaminates that would randomly die some of the extrudate. You can see the grey/black streaks in the white parts. If you really want to get rid of the lines, you can use a thick automotive spray paint/filler, which can be sanded down to a smooth finish.
@sevilnatas
@sevilnatas 12 күн бұрын
@@DrDFlo Hmmm, I wonder if you used a sporadic mix of different color pellets, if that would further obscure the lines. If the multiple colors were different darkness, of the same shade, with one being very dark. The eye might not differentiate the shadow of a layer line, from the streak of the darkest shade. The possibilities are boundless!!
@Enjoymentboy
@Enjoymentboy 12 күн бұрын
Regarding the size of the cabinet: Just like many other things in life, it isn't so much that it is too small but that it isn't big enough. 😉
@disp3rsion
@disp3rsion 12 күн бұрын
i feel like you need a large auxilliary fan, like the Lasko Super Fan
@conorstewart2214
@conorstewart2214 9 күн бұрын
You say that pellet extruders can have issues with small moves due to the need to build pressure. Could this be fixed by decoupling the requested flow rate and the screw motor? If you had a way of sensing the pressure in the nozzle then maybe you could have the nozzle pressure controlled separately from the flow rate requested by the Gcode file. Or maybe some changes to how the slicer works to allow it to compensate for the screw extruded and continue spinning the screw between moves.
@Jazzy-kz6wd
@Jazzy-kz6wd 10 күн бұрын
i wonder if a pellet extruder could benefit from some sort of valve to block the flow of plastic and maintain pressure during travel moves instead of a standard "retraction"
@Eric-Truong
@Eric-Truong 7 күн бұрын
Hey Dr. D-Flo, I'm back with another question, have you seen the Greenboy3D work on a diy pellet extruder? Could I have your thoughts on it? Thanks again!
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 7 күн бұрын
I would have to get my hands on it, but as mentioned in this video the longer/larger the screw the better the performance (not just increased output but also less affected by irregular feeding of pellets)
@Eric-Truong
@Eric-Truong 7 күн бұрын
@@DrDFlo thanks for your reply and input, can’t wait to see more from you!
@GeekOfAllThings
@GeekOfAllThings 11 күн бұрын
If you decide you need a larger electrical cabinet, could you print it now?
@martinvitvar3101
@martinvitvar3101 10 күн бұрын
Row row benchie boat, gently down the stream :-). Sending the giant benchie down the Niagara Falls might be a clickbait worthy content for you to attract more subscribers and get people into makerworld. Of course picking up the benchie with GPS tracker at later stage down the stream to see how tough it is.
@SnobbishGoose
@SnobbishGoose 12 күн бұрын
29:07 is the retractable cord is to short when all the way at max z just move it back and run a pulley to it
@northjeep
@northjeep 12 күн бұрын
To address the umbilical retraction issue, simply install a collar on the ceiling in the right spot ( as high as possible) and move the retractors away from the collar. Ensure that the retractor is sufficiently long when fully extended to accommodate the extra length so that you can eliminate the slack up to a point very close to the ceiling.
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tip! I have added it to my notes
@youtubehandlesux
@youtubehandlesux 12 күн бұрын
I want to see this thing mounted on a fixed position with a machine that moves the bed around
@SaintAngerFTW
@SaintAngerFTW 12 күн бұрын
This is crazy cool stuff.............. but is it really usefull for the average user? ill stick to making planters out of wood from my cnc
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
Planter was just a test print. I agree that a cedar planter is more tasteful
@wildniscamper7276
@wildniscamper7276 7 күн бұрын
26:31 the inductive sensor flag should go beside the sensor not in collision to it.. nice job👍🍺
@marcelwinkelhofer
@marcelwinkelhofer 12 күн бұрын
After I saw that you made your cabinet move able I thought why not make cable connections that you can connect and disconnect from your cabinet? There are big connectors out there that are used for the already showed ABB robot arms for the same purpose.
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
They all disconnect! Only the extruder motor and encoder pass through cable glands (but can be unplugged directly from the drive) the rest of the electrical components are panel mount connectors and can be unplugged from the bottom.
@AleksandrRuljov
@AleksandrRuljov 8 күн бұрын
Why not just to to put big pellet extruder before printer and make filament, wind that to some buffer roll and after, just wire that freshly made filament to normal light-weight extruder of the printer? Cheaper and also no issues with retract
@thecamarokid4230
@thecamarokid4230 12 күн бұрын
What is the biggest nozzle size that the printer can print with?
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
The major external diameter of the stock nozzle is about 20 mm, so it definitely has to be less than that. However, you can always over-extrude. For example, you can have a 10 mm nozzle orifice but print 20 mm "roads"
@notchipotle
@notchipotle 12 күн бұрын
so it's similar to injection molding, just without the actual mold lol
@MasterThief117
@MasterThief117 9 күн бұрын
As amazing as this thing is, it really upsets me how expensive this is at over $22,000, even if it's geared for "industrial use." It's not just "Massive Dimension" pellet extruders that cost so much. It seems to be industry-wide with some costing nearly $100,000. Maybe it's a bad comparison, but at this price, I could get a brand new car like you suggested. A car has significantly more technology, more parts, engineering, raw materials, and overhead that went into manufacturing them. Can someone explain the cost breakdown for these things?
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 9 күн бұрын
Usually, it's an economy of scale problem. Let's say you're an extruder manufacturer, and it costs $5,000 for you to buy all the off-the-shelf and custom components plus labor for assembly. At $5,000, you are already priced out of the hobbyist market, and that doesn't even include the normal overhead to run a business (warehouse space, customer support, marketing, and salaries). Further, the extruder you're manufacturing is heavy, so an industrial motion platform is needed to move the extruder (robotic arm, bridge-style gantry system, etc.). So even if you could sell your extruder for $5,000 or let's say you sell it at a loss for $2,000 and plan to make money by selling plastic pellets (which is hard to do because pellets are everywhere and not locked down like say printer ink), there are very few people who have the means to afford this setup. So if I were doing the market analysis for this company, I would say we target the R&D industry. Create a cushy margin, say $15,000, and then we only need to focus on selling 50 units a year. I can then spend time going to trade shows and other outreach to market the extruder. Further, I can provide really good customer service to match the price tag. Obviously, if you set the price too high, then potential customers will just build it themselves.
@MasterThief117
@MasterThief117 9 күн бұрын
@@DrDFlo Thank you so much for explaining this to me. I knew I was missing something but couldn't really find a good amount of info on it. Your channel is awesome and you consistently put out incredible content. You're really good at explaining complex things at a level accessible to the rest of us and the way you share it is very engaging! Keep being you!
@martinhuber6702
@martinhuber6702 2 күн бұрын
Duet has a daughterboard for thermocouples why did you not use that?
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 2 күн бұрын
Too much noise couldn’t get a consistent reading
@Q11m75
@Q11m75 12 күн бұрын
as they say in texas "everything in texas is bigger" i bet he lives in texas
@scruffy3121
@scruffy3121 11 күн бұрын
Volumetric flow rate of 5kg/h, that sounds like a mass flow rate to me.
@ziocrielo6148
@ziocrielo6148 12 күн бұрын
Next project, building a stupid fast printer
@The_Privateer
@The_Privateer 8 күн бұрын
The obvious question... "But why?"
@enosunim
@enosunim 12 күн бұрын
Yes, this is a serious business. I bet if you will try to make the world fastest and largest benchy, there will be an earthquake.
@Zimmon375
@Zimmon375 9 күн бұрын
Song at 28:08 ?
@charlesurrea1451
@charlesurrea1451 12 күн бұрын
Thermocouples are always sensitive to noise because they work with such small voltages. You should never make a long run of thermal coupler wire, it should terminate as quick as possible. It is best if you mount your thermocouple and then use a simple amplifier to go from there. you can then filter out the garbage even in discreets using comparative circuit It sounds like this hot and needs a chick ring just like a injection molding press would have that should stop that drooling
@rexxx927
@rexxx927 12 күн бұрын
in FFF they are called Daughter boards
@eslmatt811
@eslmatt811 12 күн бұрын
I wonder how many sales of mass dimensions gets from you making a video like this. But obviously there are sales otherwise they wouldn't keep upgrading your printer.
@rangefreewords
@rangefreewords 12 күн бұрын
Buys a high flo 3d printer for printing a flower box. 38mins on this... a timer on the print bed and handling of the prints would be nice to include in the video.
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
Lol the planter was just a test print that made the wife happy... I needed to make sure the extruder could perform consistently without creating voids, which would sink my next project (pun intended!). But the print settings for the corner planter were the same as Benchy - sparse infill = 180 mm/s, exterior perimeter = 50 mm/s, and internal perimeters/solid layers = 75 mm/s. The volumetric flow rate with a nozzle diameter of 3mm and a 2mm layer height for each feature is 5 kg/hr, 1.38 kg/hr, 2 kg/hr. My apologies this info wasn't readily available
@usrnm53105
@usrnm53105 12 күн бұрын
Why don't you print your large electrical cabinet with your enormous printer??
@DrDFlo
@DrDFlo 12 күн бұрын
Plastics are thermal insulators (more likely the electrical components will overheat). And with the power that the printer is drawing you want a proper ground to the enclosure in case there is a wiring issue. However, for future smaller projects I will definitely be printing enclosures!
@usrnm53105
@usrnm53105 11 күн бұрын
@@DrDFlo you are absolutely correct. It also doesn't provide EMI shielding. But for the right application you can add filtered air inlets with fans, an aluminum backplane and even a proper shielding mesh if it is needed. Another great application for a large format printer could be bespoke cable management solutions or at a minimum printed "panduit". I look forward to seeing the next step in your process.
@anguismemes1666
@anguismemes1666 9 күн бұрын
20k for that ???? I work 10 years in the plastics industry and that thing is a damn scam. Almost everything from 3D printing is actually extremely overpriced or actually a scam
@senorjp21
@senorjp21 11 күн бұрын
Uncompromising
@youtubehandlesux
@youtubehandlesux 12 күн бұрын
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