Scruton Lectures 2021 - Tom Holland on Puritanism and Iconoclasm

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In conversation with Nigel Biggar.
Held at The Sheldonian Theatre, Oxford on 20th October 2021.
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@chrissi3193 Жыл бұрын

Just the kind of erudite, wide ranging and brilliant account of a massive contemporary issue. Delivered with wit, humility and humanity Sir Roger would be honoured.

@jacquedegatineau9037 2 жыл бұрын

This was wonderful. Thank you Mr. Holland for a thought provoking lecture. This event seems to be a fitting tribute to Roger Scruton.

@FlashdogFul28 Ай бұрын

Very fond of Tom Holland and Roger Scruton.

@elleh3495 10 ай бұрын

It's a very very slow build with Holland, always so, and then it punches one in the gut; a dropping away of time and circumstance as one realizes how he has so elegantly drawn his viewer/listener into a stranglehold of truth that makes one feel hot with discomfort and yet giddy with excitement for having understood.

@leedufour 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tom and all involved!

@thomassimmons1950 Жыл бұрын

Talk about knock your bloody knock your bloody socks off...WOW: Holland is an intellectual Monster! Cheers: from St. Louis, the birth place of T.S. Eliot!!!

@gosiachaaban2484 2 жыл бұрын

Constantly checking yourself, if ypur actions but also your thoughts are moral etc is what you do as a Catholic, too as you prepare for confession. It's an essential part and preferably to be done every day.

@johnvwilkman 2 жыл бұрын

This forgetting is the legacy of the student (and sexual) revolution in the sixties when all remembrances learned or not were swept away... I find it interesting that puritanism can be viewed as 'tradition' for it was never this... A wonderful lecture - Tom Holland is always thought provoking...

@arifabilla8848 Жыл бұрын

Spiderman would feels proud on his name that Tom Holland is a huge house whole word and also some famous wise persons names tooo

@Ozgipsy Жыл бұрын

If listen to this bloke anyday.

@Mark_Dyer1 2 жыл бұрын

Tom appears to be regarding 'statue-toppling' as emerging from a healthy - almost theological - cynicism toward the 'worthiness' of any human being to be so commemorated. And as a Christian I may agree with that. However, do not the 'statue-topplers' themselves wish to SUBSTITUTE people they do regard as 'worthy' (often people of violence themselves!): thus invalidating his argument?

@b.alexanderjohnstone9774 Жыл бұрын

Spot on Sir. I owe a few of my opinions to Tom Holland who I absolutely adore but he is missing much on this as you point out. The iconoclastism is very specific and limited to western and especially English speaking misdeeds. If it was truly about slavery wouldn't we raising up abolitionist 'heroes' at the same time? Why would the only two countries that sacrificed to end slavery (financially in our case, sailors lives too, and civil war in American case) be treated as the worst of the worst offenders? I wish it was anti statues writ large or a warts and all interrogation of our history (which would reveal our national shame but in context of world history and include the clapham set, abolitionist movement etc and the immense sacrifices made to end the evil).

@Mark_Dyer1 Жыл бұрын

@@b.alexanderjohnstone9774 Likewise! But you and I both know that the 'Religion of Woke' is based on, and grounded in, a deranged HATRED. Contrary to their protestations, they are always referencing the past; and do precious little to relieve actual suffering in this World, today. 'Virtue-signalling' is the closest these people get to the relief of human suffering: or, when they do put in the effort, it is targetted specifically with the object of taking down 'The West'.

@rontimus Жыл бұрын

You’re missing the simpler point… toppling statues AND putting them back up again both come from Christian tradition, the toppling of course being the puritan version. But when they erect St George Floyd, it’s just another project of another aspect of Christendom

@Mark_Dyer1 Жыл бұрын

@@rontimus Why do "people-like-you" always resort to relativism, through reference to the PAST; instread of dealing with the arguments of TODAY? Is this a characteristic of 'progressivism'? It certainly isn't 'progressive' in terms of the 'process theology' I tand to follow. That is far from stuck-in-the-past.

@rontimus Жыл бұрын

@@Mark_Dyer1 The past contains the reasons why we are the way we are, and particularly the values we have. The past is superior to "arguments of today" (ie, just reguritating old theological debates without being aware of it). Your values are quite clearly Christian.

@jandybchillin1519 Жыл бұрын

That Pelagian metaphor was brilliant. I never thought of it that way.

@eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807 2 жыл бұрын

Statues - an alternative: in many cultures, representation of people or nature, is not present, and or, has not been present, in their art work or archictectural decorations.

@Louis.R 2 жыл бұрын

Read René Girard

@gregoryward8110 2 жыл бұрын

Tom Holland laying down the gauntlet

@b.alexanderjohnstone9774 Жыл бұрын

I really admire and adore Tom Holland but has he noticed how selective is the attack on history and statues? If it was a reaction against statues as a concept, writ large, that'd be one thing but this is so clearly an attack on English speaking culture. Hence they condemn even Churchill and Lincoln but not, as Douglas Murray points out, Karl Marx. If it was about slavery, wouldn't they have identified heroes too? Have you heard any mention of Wilberforce? Or condemnation of non-english speaking misdeeds? I wish this was just about a real reckoning of the history, warts and all, or statues as a concept.

@louisdavies8050 Жыл бұрын

Marx statues gets regularly attacked & covered.

@jesusalvarez-cedron6581 Жыл бұрын

Selective? The same is happening in the spanish speaking countries.

@bourdieufan7433 8 ай бұрын

marx good churchill evil it’s not difficult tarquin

@kreek22 2 ай бұрын

It isn't Christianity that motivates these people. It is communism. You are wise to watch what they do and to be skeptical of what they say.

@elleh3495 10 ай бұрын

I didnt hear any mention of guilt and how it is influencing woke culture. That seems necessary, especially concerning tge statue-toppling.

@michaelandrewsalomonenewje4107 6 ай бұрын

What about the Massachusetts Bay Puritans who oppressed ANY other sect that was not their own; total hypocrites, or, at least, objectional characters. Not for me. Religion is personal.