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SCUM. Are the devs finally listening to us?

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reconc4t

reconc4t

Күн бұрын

This is a Re-upload from this weekend....I maaay have accidently deleted the video...oops
A community address was posted this week by the #SCUM devs! In it they claim they are listening to us and that a fix is on the way for the next patch! I have serious skepticism about that and I will tell you why!
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@mongolmees
@mongolmees 3 ай бұрын
The new spawning system just completely RUINS the immersion. You cant for example clear out a bunker. There are infinite zombies in there. WHERE are they coming from?? Also keeping the hordes and fixing it would be so easy. Use the old spawning system (maybe just turn up the number of puppets) and make the horde scream call all the puppets already there to the screams location. There is no point in trying to be sneaky and clear a place out anymore because its impossible. You get one horde scream and suddenly the whole place is filled with puppets again. Honestly we had better hordes when we had the old spawning system with max puppets.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. My last video before 0.95 was a good showcase of how crazy you could make the puppets even without this horde mechanic
@thatdude1435
@thatdude1435 4 ай бұрын
Im amazed how hard the devs make this simple fix look.. The players are CLEARLY asking for the same thing, whats the big fucking deal? Just give us the normal spawn system.. jeez..
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 4 ай бұрын
I wish I knew. Sure seems like excuses.
@Dest74
@Dest74 3 ай бұрын
Their shitty engine can’t handle the AI and cars or animals. So they downgraded the way the AI works to make room for more features like NPCs. It was fine before. Puppets are trash now
@imajia1
@imajia1 4 ай бұрын
for me the devs have zero credibility left. And as we say, words are cheap. So when they say "we fix it", I believe it when I see the fix. Until then, my review (after 2k hours where I actually had fun) will remain negative.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 4 ай бұрын
I'm skeptical myself. Hopefully they aren't blowing smoke....but they probably are
@Janne1889
@Janne1889 3 ай бұрын
First of all what was wrong with the puppets before? Chraters and puppets fix now!
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 4 ай бұрын
Just so there's no confusion...yes this video is from Friday...yes...I accidentally deleted it.... carry on
@phrazz
@phrazz Ай бұрын
I seriously don't think they understand the problem here. Puppets spawning "on" us is just one part of the problem... I wouldn't mind hordes spwning in if you make too much noise. That idea is fine. But there needs to be more puppets - and they need to spawn in when you're AT LEAST 300+ meters away from a PoI/town. Scoping out a town/PoI from 300, 200, 100 meters away and no puppet in sight is just... Immersion breaking. And when you've cleared an area? It needs to stay clear for a while.
@zaaroorian2700
@zaaroorian2700 4 ай бұрын
That point you made about the puppets spawning back in town right after you had left it, that issue was there even before this new system, it's been bothering me ever since they implemented the puppet spawn system, more than a year ago, and I was even more bothered that nobody was talking about it. Spawn system is immersion breaking no matter what. Devs lost their motivation to make a survival game that is better than the rest with these compromises... Had to uninstall after over 2k hours in the game lost hope in the devs. Too bad this game had so much potential...
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 4 ай бұрын
It's true they would respawn when you left and came back but it was tolerable and took longer. Now you only have to cross the street and they respawn.
@zaaroorian2700
@zaaroorian2700 4 ай бұрын
@@reconc4t Thats so bad 😂 First time I see devs willingly break their own game that had so much potential
@Ranger224
@Ranger224 4 ай бұрын
ya hit the nail on the head mate, well said and good points raised, hope the devs watch and listen as the puppets spawning in a bush 10m in front of you is just bad in any way it can looked at, im looking forward to what is to come, but things will be much worse when its no long a puppet in a bush but npc soldier with a mk18. it needs to be fixed as ya said the old puppets with the new breaching windows/doors would of been fine and enjoyable, surely they could have gotten rid of a heap of other things to improve performance for example do we really need 25 bunkers now with most not even spawning loot.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. They could have saved performance in other areas
@ho0ligan921
@ho0ligan921 3 ай бұрын
This is the reason i have pulled the plug on Scum my self a year ago. I was playing so long Scum and enjoyed it and loved it. Untill i realised puppets spawn system. Tried to close my ayes thinking it will be allright but eventually i had enough. Didn't touched Scum since, tried few times for like 5 minutes each time and its just felt even worst. So if spawn system will get sorted i will be all over the Scum again if not Devs failed
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
Same. Spawn system is a deal breaker for me. Its 50 percent of the game for pve and it's crap now
@JoeyGarzaHealth
@JoeyGarzaHealth 3 ай бұрын
Bro me and my discord server loved this game so much and were initially so excited for the update. It literally took a couple days of gaming for my server pop to go to zero and the people in my discord quit it completely. Sad day and yet they continue to use this spawn system. Now it’s flipped the other way making things too easy. Eliminating long rifles completely and immersion.
@bannacis5878
@bannacis5878 4 ай бұрын
Scum started going down hill when they added base building,,, yeah that long ago. I played it every day from launch for 5 years...With continuously added content that just turn me away from it. We are supposed to get off the island not build for long term. Dropping in by parachute? give me a break. I love the game/hate it... The Devs got off track because they kissed players a## and added stuff it didn't need. Sniper rifles with no long range shooting. And Dayz has no Zombies...aren't they infected???
@MrMuffin8125
@MrMuffin8125 3 ай бұрын
We can tell you dont play scum kissing players asses? The devs dont listen to shit i got 8k hours in scum and never once has the devs kissed our ass or listened to complaints from day 1 even before cars. Or building.
@thiagosoares6526
@thiagosoares6526 3 ай бұрын
Do you know what's really going on? In my opinion, this company has become greedy. You see, they're more concerned with releasing stupid DLCS than fixing crucial game systems like the spawn system. How hard is it for them to do it right? Are they stupid? Because I don't understand all these years and now they've fucked it all up. Other more recent indie games with a smaller budget and team are light years ahead of SCUM and the team puts on a show in terms of after-sales service - Enshrouded for example. What I really believe is that the company is on a scale and the shareholders want to tip it to the side and gradually implement the concepts of micro-transactions and a store, leaving the game badly fucked and grinded just to force players to spend more money.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
I certainly don't know. I only know what I can see from the outside looking in. I try not to make guesses but I can't help but feel some of what you say may have some truth to it. But I can't know for sure. I hope you are wrong and they just needed a reminder about who they make games for.
@thiagosoares6526
@thiagosoares6526 3 ай бұрын
@@reconc4t Yeah, lets hope for it!
@impipapo5539
@impipapo5539 2 ай бұрын
It is a shame I am already subscribed, because I can not subscribe again. I do love KZfaqrs who have an opinion on their own. That alone deserves a sub. Talking about DayZ. It is my favourite game by far and I currently have around 8.3k hours in it. With vanilla settings the infected spawn at a distance of 300m. That is if you’re alone in the area. If there is someone else closer to the town you might even see infected from much further away. Are the infected in DayZ perfect? By all means, no. However the amount of infected depends on how many players are in that area. The all do spawn in a cluster and then walk of on randomised paths. It’s not like back in the day when the used to be on tracks. Been playing DayZ now since .53 and been modding it since 2019. There is a lot of room for improvement if giving access to the modding tools. Scum atm would definitely benefit from it. DayZ has been in development for over 10 years now and they still make improvements which is something I really like. However, without the modding community on pc the game would not be so popular right now. That being said, there are more players on the console versions than on the PC version. Another KZfaqr made the comparison and it was really informative! Anyways what I am trying to say is that the SCUM devs are probably trying to milk their way to the console launch to then milk the game even further. Simply because they now that they will get loads of money from the console players. However Bohemia Interactive notices (almost too late) that it is important to listen to the community. A game can die pretty quickly if you have an ignorant dev team working on it. At the end of the day all we can do as players is stop playing until the devs actually get it. Doesn’t matter if Raykit or whoever fanboys his paid ass if no one is playing it anymore. Unfortunately when that time comes it is gonna be way too late. My predictions are that they’re gonna release 1.0 in Q4 to get the game out for console and then just gonna fix a few bugs for another year before they abandon the game in total. It’s unfortunate but it is what it is. There will be another game someday which will be even better. Just a shame the devs couldn’t listen to the community. Could have been great.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 2 ай бұрын
I hope you are wrong about them abandoning the game after 1.0 but they seem to not have much care about the communities concerns, so it does seem to be a monetize as much as possible and then dump it sort of scenario! Thanks for subscribing and I'm glad you got some value from my video. I make videos from a genuine stand point and will never cover a game or speak on a game positively or negatively just for views or recognition from dev teams or what-have-you. I only cover things I enjoy or feel have some value and SCUM at the moment is no longer on that list.
@redshift912
@redshift912 3 ай бұрын
Still waiting for that dayz killer 😂😂😂😂
@cinchmccoy
@cinchmccoy 3 ай бұрын
the devs listening to the vocal minority of the player base is the reason that we all left waaaay back when they releases .8 --- scum been dead now for couple years
@-TK-421
@-TK-421 3 ай бұрын
They also need to fix the movements of the puppets. Jumping way up in the air and things like that. This has been a problem since 0.4. To me they waisted so much time coming up with the most ridicules health system they never fixed any of the main problems of the game. The puppets. Cooking. Fishing. And now they messed up the hunting. I have 1000 hours into the game but always quit because I hate so many of the bugs. I come back when they have a big update and play for a while to then leave because it seems like they fixed nothing. It is a game I want so much to play and enjoy but in the end it is no where as fun as Day Z or any of the other 20 openworld games out there. They all have some issues but they get fixed. It seems like the Devs for Scum purposely don't want to fix anything but make you just learn to deal with it. Sorry. Rant over. Enjoyed your video and opinions.
@jv-fy1de
@jv-fy1de 3 ай бұрын
I tried this game a while back but hated the stamina system so went back to Dayz I keep up with the game but nothing is really pulling me back in
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
I've heard that before. Keep an eye on it. It may still go somewhere
@astheseasonsgrey
@astheseasonsgrey 3 ай бұрын
Games that aren't even at 1.0 shouldn't have paid dlc.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
I disagree. It can be a fun way to help with funding a game. Now if the devs of the game stop working on the core of the game and start ruining it with broken systems no one asked for then I start having a problem.
@astheseasonsgrey
@astheseasonsgrey 3 ай бұрын
I might not think having 100 dollars in dlc in early access was so egregious if that money were actually going into fixing the game, which at this point does not seem to be the case. That they also released two of these DLCs at the same time as hotfixes that broke more stuff and they were radio silent for so long especially rubbed me the wrong way.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
I agree that the SCUM devs have no business slinging DLC right now. But many ea games have dlc and they use the funds to better the game in a tangible way and in a timely manner. Icarus is a perfect example of this
@thelonewolf_nz7640
@thelonewolf_nz7640 4 ай бұрын
Next step, hunting mechanic
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 4 ай бұрын
Yes! Would be awesome to see it fixed. Survival isn't the same without critters to hunt
@oneill6291
@oneill6291 3 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely! As soon as they did that with the hunting I knew it was a bad sign.
@qreepyQT
@qreepyQT 20 күн бұрын
What good is hunting when the best you can do is cook a perfect meal that gives you 8x the amount of protein compared to fat while canned tuna cans give you 45x the amount of protein compared to fat
@thelonewolf_nz7640
@thelonewolf_nz7640 15 күн бұрын
@@qreepyQT realism.....so you just see animals randomly and not hidden behind silly mechanics
@qreepyQT
@qreepyQT 15 күн бұрын
@@thelonewolf_nz7640 again what good is realistic hunting when there is no realistic eating? The latter is way more important
@Marco_Leporatti
@Marco_Leporatti 4 ай бұрын
Someone send this video to the devs.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 4 ай бұрын
No dont...they will probably have me killed 🤣
@user-wu1dv6jk5s
@user-wu1dv6jk5s 3 ай бұрын
Developer arrogance destroyed Miscreated
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
It's a shame. That game was promising
@matthewsquires423
@matthewsquires423 18 күн бұрын
On a standard unmodified dayz server thay spawn in 100 metres as you get to the spawn area for them. It causes server lag for a second or two depending on the server host. On scum they spawn around you depending on the puppet count. Whilst similar they are not the same. Scums spawns are linked to the encounter system which at this moment is better than the vid release but still broken. The encointer system is like dayz's CLE. But just for puppets.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 18 күн бұрын
On standard dayz it's 300 meters not 100 meters. And puppets still spawn in bushes because it's the only way to make a close spawn system like theirs work.
@matthewsquires423
@matthewsquires423 18 күн бұрын
@@reconc4t then I stand corrected. As far as i was aware anything further away than 100m, was that it was because someone else passed through and the zombies hadn't despawned yet
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 18 күн бұрын
You can try it out for yourself. It's not a perfect 300 meters as there can be some delay when they spawn depending on server performance. Get a range finder and range your distance to a town and move towards it. When you see them start popping in, it's generally at about 300 meters.
@dudergames6547
@dudergames6547 4 ай бұрын
for vehicles,, the raft is not the only thing missing... The seaplanes have been gone a very long time, the chopper and cruiser motorcycle are coming back as well... Also the old spawning system was 100% better.. could sit and snipe puppets all day long..
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 4 ай бұрын
Ya the raft is the only water vehicle we are missing is what I meant to say
@robfox5464
@robfox5464 10 күн бұрын
Well after the last few videos I've watched, the answer is no, they're not. You will get new foliage, new camo patterns, a rather useless quad bike, another, likely unkillable, item in the form of the dropship and guns jamming randomly but, no, the spawning system is "there to stay" . The problem is that we are deal with emotional devs, who really never grew past the age of 6 yo, and that are now getting personal about imposing this system on a player base that does not want it. GG (not) 😂
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 10 күн бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. They are taking the spawn system way too personally. They put a lot of time Into it and now refuse to acknowledge that the majority don't want it. And some such as myself refuse to play what I'm calling the "new scum" until they fix the spawns with something more traditional and less gimmicky
@robfox5464
@robfox5464 2 күн бұрын
@reconc4t just playing DayZ atm, is amazing to scout an area from a long distance with binos and then to get in and to find that Zs are actually there where you saw them. God knows why Scum devs are doing what they're doing.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t Күн бұрын
@robfox5464 I've been playing mainly DayZ again as well.
@OilHutJones
@OilHutJones 3 ай бұрын
been playing since the early days. game should have been released a few years ago and a new game already almost ready to go. bad management
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
SCUM on UE5 would be pretty cool
@filtercleaners1936
@filtercleaners1936 4 ай бұрын
i dont play this kind of games where you have to RENT a server to play with friends
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 4 ай бұрын
I get it. I just look at this way. Lots of games don't allow you any control over the game settings. This allows me to make the game experience I want. You can always meet up with friends on a public server but you have to play by someone else's rules. This way I can play with friends and run the server how I want.
@AbulHaj
@AbulHaj 23 күн бұрын
This did not age well.... LOL nothing is fixed
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 23 күн бұрын
Ya. It's hurt my channel a lot but I have quit SCUM. likely for good
@m0tic
@m0tic 4 ай бұрын
Bleh, Milking Cow, Past and uninstalled.
@AndiKoehn
@AndiKoehn 4 ай бұрын
Aight, lol 😁
@Janne1889
@Janne1889 3 ай бұрын
Full of cheaters. May comeback when 1.0
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully the next couple updates will sort it out
@slimboyfatbolox2u183
@slimboyfatbolox2u183 3 ай бұрын
Ive done over 1500 hours on scum and i stopped playing cus zombies are shite and same grind every day..Shame really cus its got great potential
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
Lots of potential. Hope they listen to people
@NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2
@NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2 3 ай бұрын
Simple. Stop playing games from devs that pull this kinda shit. Why oh WHY do people put up with this? You're part of a much deeper problem in games period.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
No. People like me hold developers accountable. The people that are the problem are the ones that blame the players.
@NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2
@NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2 3 ай бұрын
@reconc4t I'm not blaming you personally, you come across as an intelligent, reasonable individual. But I think that some of these unscrupulous devs and publishers are counting on people like you behaving in a reasonable and measured way, for them to take advantage of this - something that's normally commendable - for their own [nefarious?] reasons. I see this a lot, and I'm baffled by what could possibly be so star-spangled awesome about what can be, by and large, generally mediocre games, that reasonable, intelligent people, will wear this kinda s**t?? Off the top of my head, and I appreciate this's kinda cynical, is it cos it drives controversy, and generates views and interactions via comments (like this) for the KZfaq algorithms on which you depend?
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
It's certainly possible that it's all a plot to gain attention. All I know is I used to enjoy a game and spent thousands of my life hours, hours I won't get back and hundreds of my hard earned dollars on a game that on a whim decided to go a completely different or at the very least questionable direction and I aim to accomplish in the very least letting the devs know about my disdain for said decisions. It's nothing more than that. And my channel certainly isn't one where I aim to breed argument and drama for the sake of views. These are my thoughts and feeling and they are shared with a large part of the SCUM community as it turns out. I like to think looking back that my channel is mostly positive.
@NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2
@NickTaylor-Phantom-Works2 3 ай бұрын
​@reconc4t fair enough mate. I wish you all the best, cos I think I was right, you ARE a decent intelligent guy trying to do something commendable,in holding shady dev practices to account. Fair play, and sincerely, good luck with it. I'm sick of the crap I see devs doing.
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 3 ай бұрын
I'll be the first to say well done if they right the ship. I don't enjoy dragging devs through the mud. Have a good day dude. Appreciated the chat!
@smokedoggxxl
@smokedoggxxl 2 ай бұрын
Spawn system is still bad
@reconc4t
@reconc4t 2 ай бұрын
Worst part is I don't think they are going to work on it anymore. Hasn't been in the dev update for a couple months.
@smokedoggxxl
@smokedoggxxl 2 ай бұрын
@@reconc4t Yeah and having all the content creators besides you and wardog continue to simp and cope for this shiz show is only making it worse.
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