F-0114 Convair R3Y Tradewind "The Flying Task Force"

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San Diego Air and Space Museum Archives

San Diego Air and Space Museum Archives

12 жыл бұрын

Film on the Convair R3Y Tradewind. From the archives of the San Diego Air and Space Museum www.sandiegoairandspace.org/re... Please do not use for commercial purposes without permission.

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@arodrigues2843
@arodrigues2843 6 жыл бұрын
Beautifull aircraft.!! I thought it was a little bigger!!! I still have the Revell kit, from the '60s, and his box in mint condition.!!!
@seoceancrosser
@seoceancrosser 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great aircraft and concept for the time!!
@cbalducc
@cbalducc 11 жыл бұрын
The primary reason the aircraft was retired early was because the engines were lemons. God bless.
@bobford01
@bobford01 7 жыл бұрын
An amphibious Hercules... brilliant. Too bad it didn't stay around long.
@caribman10
@caribman10 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting "hypothetical"... And the real shame is that we actually were very close to having reliable turboprop engines, which went on to power a whole era of passenger and military aircraft, some used to this day. C-130, anyone? Because this is the aircraft the C--130 never was but would have been an incredible system in combat. Just imagine the R3Y-2/C-130/CH-54 combination.
@jpatt1000
@jpatt1000 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it would've done had they switched to the T56 for reliability and added another pair to (more than) make up for the 3000hp total power lost in the engine swap?
@johneddy98033
@johneddy98033 12 жыл бұрын
Convair had a heritage of building flying boats with the Consolidated Commodore, used by Pan Am during the early 1930s, and the Catalina, which saw action during World War II in both military and civilian use.
@samuelglover7685
@samuelglover7685 8 жыл бұрын
This looks to be from the mid-50's. So it's very interesting that about a decade before the U.S. plunged headlong into Vietnam, military contractors were already hot to propose "solutions" for that "problem". And how nice of Convair marketing to familiarize Americans with the Mekong river! The Tradewind never scooped up its share of those sweet Pentagon dollars, but that's OK. Convair shareholders would do **very** well before too many years went by.
@Kundry
@Kundry 6 жыл бұрын
Not unrelated to this was the fact that in 1953 we figured the Germans had been in the penalty box long enough and it was time to rearm them as we realized any assistance they could offer as a bulwark against the Red Army would be desperately needed. The French weren't so sure a rearmed Germany was a good idea. I wouldn't doubt there may have been some quid pro quo involving American involvement in the former French colony of Indochina as a price for a rearmed Germany. Another irony of this time period that I've been told was that the Legion was one of the most effective (and ruthless) French units in Indochina and many of the Legionares who were seeking new identities spoke fluent German.
@RU-zm7wj
@RU-zm7wj 5 жыл бұрын
This is 1963-4.
@whtalt92
@whtalt92 5 ай бұрын
@@RU-zm7wj Except the Tradewinds were broken up in 1958....
@TheMajorActual
@TheMajorActual 6 жыл бұрын
Thing to remember about this video's scenario: Dien Bien Phu was recent memory when this was made. France had just pulled out of Indochina because of it, and the US seriously considered intervening, at one point, to save the French. South Vietnam was a shiny, happy new country, and we were just into the cease fire in Korea.....Vietnam loomed large, long before Kennedy was anything more than a freshman rep from a snooty district in Yankeeland.
@g__wizz
@g__wizz 4 жыл бұрын
well that and all the heroin coming out of laos and cambodia. they dont call it the french connection for nothing.
@phayzyre1052
@phayzyre1052 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! The Convair Tradewind was a promising aircraft and the US Navy was very interested in it but the Allison T-40 turbo props that powered it were garbage and after they contributed to a few crashes of the Tradewind the US Navy killed the program.
@MrColussi
@MrColussi 8 жыл бұрын
a few should have been kept!!!
@Polypropellor
@Polypropellor 6 жыл бұрын
At the time, no one was thinking of radar guided anti-aircraft missiles. Radar guided anti aircraft artillery was already well advanced, having been used in WWII with proximity fuses, no less. These things might have worked against a limited and under equipped third world enemy, like the Viet Minh. but, if any superpower were to get involved, which obviously they surely would as was evidenced by the Korean debacle, the Big Slow Flying Targets would not have lasted long enough to deliver half a brigade. Even an under-resourced force such as the adversary at Dien Bien Phu had shown how they could assemble masses of AA to defeat a modern air force. This was also pretty much shown to be a big worry even at Khe Sanh, too. The US had to apply massive air resources, at considerable and styeadily increasing risk, to keep the Marine base from being overrun. On a more strategic level, I could understand the importance of large, well made and long rage, cargo handlers like the Tradewind. I wonder if the Navy kind of missed the beat here with their more tactical slant on their promotional effort. Almost anyone could plainly see such an ungainly, even though well designed, aircraft was never going to be put at such risk with so many troops in a purely tactical role.
@KB4QAA
@KB4QAA 5 жыл бұрын
Poly: Untrue. The Tartar/Terrier/Talos naval SAM programs were well underway at the same time the R3Y was being designed.
@SPak-rt2gb
@SPak-rt2gb 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a C-133 in a way
@andrewcarlson3486
@andrewcarlson3486 2 жыл бұрын
The first turboprop flying boat
@USCGAVIATION
@USCGAVIATION Жыл бұрын
All noteworthy and insightful comments. Lockheed's design challenge of putting pontoons on the C-130 is a boondoggle looking for a military contract. I flew the USCG HC-130H for many years and it will be a design nightmare. Pontoons are not snow skis. They require a significant aircraft elevation when mounted, leaving an equally significant distance for the rear cargo ramp to reach loading elevation. The R3Y Tradewinds was a purpose-built aircraft that with modern modification and significantly better performance, could exceed a pontooned C-130 in virtually all areas of capability. But money and politics speak louder than conventional wisdom when it comes to military design and procurement.
@henrysmith7276
@henrysmith7276 2 жыл бұрын
Should STILL be in use, just needed better engines
@danielpozarek7462
@danielpozarek7462 4 жыл бұрын
Too complicated with all the intermediate steps. Too expensive compared to cargo planes and LSTs. What a waste of money!
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