LMAO! That's amazing

We've had the saying for a while, in Calgary. We wear that when our "a good 40 minutes" shirt is in the laundry. The two t shirts I'd like to see for the Leafs: 1) "Good Looks" featuring a dreamy looking Marner. 2) An "Expected Goals For" maternity shirt, with optional Matthews face on a sonagram.

Need that as a banner in the locker room. "We did anything except win."

How about. Division Winners in a Shitty Division.

Yup, but it’s not our fault. All we can do is watch, we’re not doing anything on the ice lol

Not that long really... Hockey will be well into June when it's over, close to July with PreSeason starting late September roughly. Will be much faster then most think/feel.

It's the shortest

@@thereaversden6847 it may be short but it will feel like an eternity

Wow precisely the feeling I get.

same

6 by tonight

@@toddhsu2871 they got to 7 :D

On an episode discussing the deja vu of a Leafs first round exit.

Dude. Go search "do something leafs" and listen to that song (back when Phaneuf and Carlyle were with the team). It doesn't take too much changing of the lyrics to update it to today.

no. pain.

Avoiding the Leafs related parts (more than 90%) for the next few weeks until either the draft or they talk about the Bachelor again

why?

Regarding CJ's @1:14:14 prediction/teaser - - I came up with: Dvorak of @Coyotes Mantha of @Capitals Arvidsson of @Predators All: 1. make less$ than what Hyman will likely cost. 2. Have multiple years left on contract. 3. Are either in transition periods or near cap and endured unsuccessful seasons. 4. On US teams and not currently playing.

@@wubsworld8946 Chris said it was someone that has not played any playoff games this season so I highly doubt it's from the preds or capitals

That's why Hyman is more important than Marner who has to be traded to set the tone and course correct.

Cody Ceci works hard, how did that work out?

@@raygaub9861 hey troll

Facts.

skill can work hard and still lose. Luck plays are large element in life. That game 6 ur telling me the leafs didn't outwork the canadians. Shots were 13-2. Not to mention the comeback.

Thank you they also bought in Maroon who literally just won a cup Toronto brought in perennial chokers Thornton and Spezza and called them winners

@@DARTZZZZZ the leafs brought in bogosian... who literally just won a cup the year prior and played a similar role/impact as Maroon

Thats what these guys dont seem to understand, every cup winner had at least a couple runs before winning the whole thing. Its not like once you get past the first round youre automatically going to win the cup. You need to lose once or twice in the 2nd round/conference finals before you go on a big run.

@@nolan2235 yes but almost that whole tampa team had a run in 2015 and also Campbell isn't vasilevsky

This dude... this x10000. Don’t know why this isn’t mentioned more. They’re not Tampa. They’re not the Caps. At least those teams actually won a series, or two, or three, or four, or.... I get that this is a Leafs podcast, but boy, push back on these Tampa comparisons.

Mathews beat Marner 3-2 in the points dept.

I' m a 41yr old man with real tears in his eyes (or 2 bugs that flew in my eyes that I'm suffocating by drowning them with tears) either way seems likley.

@@calimarshall2236 I feel worse for you, I’m 15, I cried both years they lost to Boston, I was mad when they lost to Columbus and this year I’m just in awe, this team is unbelievable when it comes to disappointing fans

I'm not shocked as I'm one of the ones who said Habs in 7 from the start

@@User-12133 So you didn't watch the loss to Boston in 2013? You're lucky

@@Waders27 nope, just stuck with the misery trail it left behind

So half the team 😂😂

I'd like the Leafs to do a Lightning and Tavares has "lingering effects" from his concussion until next post season and then use his cap number to sign Hyman and a couple of other players.

The Leafs have to learn from the Lightning in another way: you have to be able to win by possession and playing dump it in and go get it. They've good at possession. Not so good an dump and chase.

😂😂😂

For me it's when Kyle Dumbass took over from Lou

It's sad how quickly it went from 3-1 to out of the playoffs.

The Red Wings aren’t like Tampa. They’re more like what’s going on in Pittsburgh. They won multiple cups. So they keep going all in and mortgaging their futures to try and win more. Tampa and Washington are definitely similar, they always look like world beaters, but Stamkos and Ovechkin each only have one Cup ring. The Leafs are something else entirely. It’s like rolling a dumpster on fire off a cliff.

Let’s also not forget that all of those teams won several series’ before finally winning the cup, it’s not like the Bolts, Caps, and Wings lost in the first round for 6 years in a row then suddenly won the cup, no all of them had multiple trips to at least the 2nd round before they won.

If they didn't compare there'd be no decenting opinion lol

The gm that signs that good luck

@Carleton Rutherford Good call forgot about Lucic's contract. Both horrendous.

Happy friday

You shouldn’t, as paying Hyman over 5M AAV with term will be a disaster for whatever team is desperate enough.

@@nicelgie462 Paul Bryon makes, I think, 3.5mil a year and he has similar numbers career wise, so this 5/6mill talk is crazy. There are players that cost less and of similar quality...granted Bryon is 3 years older.

@@stephenphillips6245 yup that summarizes it perfectly. Marner may be overpaid but his skill set is irreplaceable. You can replace what Hyman brings and add another good piece for $6M, depth shouldn’t make that much and as much as the fan base loves him and CJ even said on the podcast; Hyman is not a part of the core.

@@stephenphillips6245 Hyman is worth 5 mill all day. 6? Hell no, his numbers are inflated by who he plays with. I think you can sign him to 4.7 though and that’s a good deal.

@@dillon6320 He is a good player...I just don't know how they sign him and form a complete team over the next couple of years (esp sign some of their next crop of young players).

Kappa

It's like the advice my grandfather gave me decades ago : "Always be yourself. Unless you're an asshole."

I do think Toronto should have played on their front foot, and been aggressive in game 7, but they also don’t really get in front of the goal and take risk to get pucks in the net. Even with attacking, they had to play in a far more reckless manner.

It could be Eichel

can't be jack eichel...could it?

Regarding CJ's @1:14:14 prediction/teaser - - I came up with: Dvorak of @Coyotes Mantha of @Capitals Arvidsson of @Predators All: 1. make less$ than what Hyman will likely cost. 2. Have multiple years left on contract. 3. Are either in transition periods or near cap and endured unsuccessful seasons. 4. On US teams and not currently playing.

@@wubsworld8946 Mantha and Arvidsson played in the playoffs, so they're ruled out of that

@@mvk4343 yep. I miss interpreted a portion: my ammendment as follows includes only Dvorak as an idea. Regarding CJ's @1:14:14 prediction/teaser - - So far I came up with: Dvorak of @Coyotes 1. Have multiple years left on contract. 2. On US team. 3. Didn't play in the playoffs at all this year.

Look at the game 6 broodie goal they celebrated like they won the cup

I've followed the leafs since 2006 and we've never advanced a round. So yes, I'll celebrate it like a cup victory.

My Blues had this problem for what seemed like forever. We did celebrate winning round 1 like it was the Cup when it finally happened. It took the Blues 8 years to finally get to the promised land (well, much longer but I count 2011 as a turning point with the franchise) and it took a LOT of retooling. At many different points between 2011-2019 I believed the window was closing and the sky was falling. But it eventually happened, and it made all of the suffering worth it.

welp safe to say toronto definitely did lol…and then round 2 came.

Leafs brought in Bogosian who just won a cup. If the Leafs don't know how to win in the playoffs, how do they keep getting to game 7?

Also I agree, Hyman would be a huge loss...

Tampa has more depth. You don't need C.J. to answer that.

So you think the Leafs are as good or better without Tavares?

Do you think Claude Julien or Gerard Gallant would make adjustments? I couldn’t see them roll Marner out on the same line time after time.

They need Juggernog at this point to withstand all the physical play that they can't compete with

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Selfish players squeezing every last penny they can for themselves leaving next to nothing to ice a competitive team. Management coddling players before they've proven a damn thing.

Also, also Leafs: We only have depth and no top end

10 pounds? try like 20 lmao dude is like 170 soaking wet

@@colinlata6224 *at least 10 pounds* that doesn't mean stop at 10, but realistically 10 is a good start for a smaller guy. I'm about his size and took 3 months to put on the weight needed for my college program (15lbs added from 160)

Same, im loving all the meltdowns and second guessing

I’m watching this as a neutral (Blackhawks fan) and thinking “Steve, tell this dude he’s full of 💩already.”

how? I think everything Chris said was pretty on the money.

I can’t believe all the love for CJ in the comments. He is a complete moron and if that’s how leafs fans think, then no wonder they’re a bunch of losers!

I wish they would but they wont

They can't...contracts don't work that way

@@AceMatthew25414 Ah crap. I don't know all the rules for relating salary to cap space. In Canadian law they could certainly amend their contracts to be lower for a duration of time but I don't know if that translates to cap space.

@@tkirchmann they can’t and why would they? Sports contracts aren’t the same as normal contracts

@@crimsonravager If they could it would be to help retain talent for the next season since the cap isn't going up and they kinda f***ed up this post-season in a big way. They were paid $20+ million combined this season and got 1 post season goal between them. That's embarrassingly bad. The legality of it is they can but the NHL may have rules how that does or does not affect the cap.

Tampa won the presidents trophy and lost 1st round to the blue jackets, it doesn’t matter what other teams did

@@HunterMagunter question. How much did the grit and leadership help the Leafs this year? Look at Boston with Taylor Hall. He’s transformed their offensive abilities but didn’t offer that grit and leadership of Foligno. How about the cup favourites, Colorado Avalanche? Last. Over 12 hits less per game compared to Toronto (who was 29th, averaging 29.1 per game). The lightning? The reigning champs? They’re 28th averaging 36.4 per game. Teams that are deep with skill win. Not teams that go out their and hit you. The reason some of those teams are more successful? They normally don’t have the top end talent but are more balanced, allowing 3rd and 4th lines to win their matchups (and ultimately the series) since the top lines cancel each other out.

@@HunterMagunter nice to see you had fair counterpoints to everything I said. And no it clearly wasn’t. They minimized the Leafs top threats and their depth of young guys out beat the Leafs bottom 6 filled with ALL THE GRIT AND LEADERSHIP. You simply cannot tell me KK and Caufield out-grit and showed more leadership than Thornton or Foligno. They were simply better. Also, I’m not lost but you’re confused between the differences of quality depth and grit/leadership. Colorado wins games because they’re better than your team. Lines 1-4. They’re all better than your lines 1-4. If you have home ice, you can try getting mismatches by getting your 2nd line vs their 3rd line (and so on). But even then, it’s a fine line needed to beat them since you can’t always get those matchups. The Islanders, on the opposite end of the spectrum, don’t win games because they “out-grit” their opponents. Sure they outhit almost anyone, but their goal is low-event hockey in which any of their top 3 lines end up even on the night and that one of them bury the one chance they get. Either strategy can work. But the Leafs are in the middle (which is the worst place to be). Half their lineup is Colorado and the other half is the Islanders. But when you’re paying 4 guys half the cap, you don’t go and try to emulate the Islanders, you go and try to be the Avalanche. Be the most puck possessive team in which each line is more skilled than their opposite.

Get rid of them all. Get guys who want to be toronto maple leafs