What Did You Think Of The Matthew Tkachuk Trade? | SDP

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2 жыл бұрын

Steve, Jesse and Adam discuss the blockbuster deal thats saw Florida Panthers players Jonathan Huberdeau and MacKenzie Weager sent to the Calgary Flames in exchange for All-Star forward Matthew Tkachuk.
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@oIRONITEo
@oIRONITEo 2 жыл бұрын
If Huderdeau and Weeger re-sign then this is an absolute fleece job. If not and they flip them for solid assets at the deadline then it's still a fleece job.
@jolbertti7421
@jolbertti7421 2 жыл бұрын
30 old asking 8 year contract is not good
@oIRONITEo
@oIRONITEo 2 жыл бұрын
@@jolbertti7421 obviously, but if you win a cup it doesn't really matter.
@bobthebencher6201
@bobthebencher6201 2 жыл бұрын
@@jolbertti7421 still workable, front load the contract with bonuses so money owed in the latter years of the contract are bare minimum and he can be traded off to a team needing to hit the cap floor. Not ideal but best way around it anyways
@TriggermanEst91
@TriggermanEst91 2 жыл бұрын
Does fleece job mean rebuild?
@jugsteve
@jugsteve 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they give him 6 years he doesn't kid himself?
@NESADDICT
@NESADDICT 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be curious to see how Calgary does next season.
@Weezy_McSteezy
@Weezy_McSteezy 26 күн бұрын
Love the algorithm for serving this up to me.
@roryb.bellows4026
@roryb.bellows4026 2 жыл бұрын
As an Oiler fan, I hate to see the Flames get screwed like this. The rivalry was finally competitive again. I am glad they did as well as this and hope they finish in a strong second place this season.
@gregmadore6365
@gregmadore6365 Жыл бұрын
The flames are walking away with the division just like the year before
@jetsniper
@jetsniper 2 жыл бұрын
Why's Adam acting like the Flames need a C to play with Huberdeau? Lindholm is more than good enough already.
@bobthebencher6201
@bobthebencher6201 2 жыл бұрын
He’s got some pretty ridiculous takes sometimes
@crackingtheshell7959
@crackingtheshell7959 2 жыл бұрын
jesus. i've been a SDP listener for a long time, but the sport betting ads are insufferable.
@Tingy.
@Tingy. 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that there was a discussion on the Flames "needing a Centre" to play with Huby shows just how underrated Lindholm is in this league. Did people forget that he scored 40 goals last season?
@nilesdaughtry5418
@nilesdaughtry5418 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s go Florida Panthers 🐆
@deltagolavista1
@deltagolavista1 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t front load contracts anymore. The contract is actually more tradable as it can be moved after the signing bonus is paid to a floor team who will only have to pay him a mil. It also goes from a NMC to a 16 NTC in the last two years.
@WaddickLawnCare
@WaddickLawnCare 2 жыл бұрын
Lol that legit is a front loaded contract though??
@robbrobb659
@robbrobb659 2 жыл бұрын
as long as Canadian taxes are high players are going to bail or teams are having to over pay
@truenorth1355
@truenorth1355 2 жыл бұрын
For sure taxes are a problem but I think 90 percent of the problem is it’s minus 30 for 3 months and the wives of these American players don’t like it one bit.
@Imyourchuckleberry
@Imyourchuckleberry 2 жыл бұрын
mentioned florida got swept, then are wowed by two of the players most responsible for the team getting swept (and bullied by washington)
@stefanmeekins6359
@stefanmeekins6359 2 жыл бұрын
Huberdeau & Kadri be nice for Calgary
@mariovaccarella6854
@mariovaccarella6854 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Steve. That Gretzky-Carson is The Trade I Remember As Last 100 Point Exchange, If It Counts, because I Know That Carson Hit 100 After The Trade, But, I Don't Think Before (I'll have to check).
@user-iz3gv5vo6b
@user-iz3gv5vo6b 2 жыл бұрын
Carson got 107 before he was traded, and 100 his first year in EDM.
@mariovaccarella6854
@mariovaccarella6854 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-iz3gv5vo6b OK. Thanks. I didn't know that. Thanks for Clarifying it
@geebster.
@geebster. 2 жыл бұрын
They massively won that trade. Also if Huberdeau alone resigns they still won the trade. Tkachuk wasnt even the highest scoring player on his line, hes far more likely to drop off back to around a point a game guy without Gaudreau than for Huberdeau to not be dominant as the best player on Calgary.
@roaring_angels
@roaring_angels 2 жыл бұрын
You are underestimating a prime Sasha Barkov.
@ryancarney143
@ryancarney143 Жыл бұрын
this did not age well lolllll
@jeremybrazier786
@jeremybrazier786 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone remember when Keith and Wayne Primeau fought? If I remember correctly their parents were in the stands.
@4ktrelaxkk465
@4ktrelaxkk465 2 жыл бұрын
Huberdeau will play with 40 goal man Elias Lindholm
@MegaCaptain5
@MegaCaptain5 2 жыл бұрын
Flames have two RFAs and still need a winger. We have enough centers, especially if you consider Monahan returning. I wouldn't doubt it if they trade Kylington + Valimaki for a Mid to Top 6 winger
@oIRONITEo
@oIRONITEo 2 жыл бұрын
Can CBJ interest you in a slightly used Gus Nyquist?
@PhoenixRiseinFlame
@PhoenixRiseinFlame 2 жыл бұрын
@@oIRONITEo lol there’s no way that would happen.
@oIRONITEo
@oIRONITEo 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixRiseinFlame not for those two but we do have too many wingers.
@PhoenixRiseinFlame
@PhoenixRiseinFlame 2 жыл бұрын
@@oIRONITEo the problem with the Flames currently isn’t the lack of depth players, it’s the lack of a top six option that could replace the points lost by Tkachuk. Nyquist is an alright depth option, but realistically not what Calgary needs.
@timmanto1022
@timmanto1022 2 жыл бұрын
Sens wanted Weegar because he is Nepean Raider alum local guy. Maybe we can get Ethan Bear and Calvin De haan or Justin Braun or Philippe Myers.
@etahhcumosevahi
@etahhcumosevahi Жыл бұрын
Well... now we know Florida didn't fleece Calgary. They gave Calgary an absolute monster of a bukkake.
@Ka_Gg
@Ka_Gg 2 жыл бұрын
Kyrou was not involved in trade talks. The same ppl saying that were the same ppl saying MT was guaranteed to be a blue
@mariovaccarella6854
@mariovaccarella6854 2 жыл бұрын
Therefore, this might be The First Exchange Of Pre-Trade 100 Pointers
@ren2871
@ren2871 2 жыл бұрын
Calgary has always been scared of the word "rebuild", they always love these retools or as their previous GM said to "we can win while rebuilding at the same time". The Tkachuk trade was the epitome of that mentality. They traded Tkachuk for a player who's 5 years older and will command a max deal a year from now when he'll be 30 years old. Adding Huberdeau doesn't offset the losses they incurred this off season. As soon as Goudreau left and Tkachuk asked for a trade, that should have triggered a rebuild. They should have asked for Lundell and picks from Florida. Huberdeau is just a lateral move. Calgary loves mediocrity and sneaking into the playoff picture.
@truenorth1355
@truenorth1355 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking there in the win now category but I agree they just got gutted and as an oiler fan I’m sad because I love the battle of Alberta.
@tylerstanton887
@tylerstanton887 2 жыл бұрын
Flames need a scoring RW way more than a C
@tej4143
@tej4143 2 жыл бұрын
Timo from SJ would be a great RW for us
@dukem991
@dukem991 2 жыл бұрын
More talk this year about the flames then in the last 5 years combined
@nycbbq
@nycbbq 4 күн бұрын
Best trade ever for Florida! He is a born leader and winner.
@Barkybarc
@Barkybarc 2 ай бұрын
This aged like cheese
@bl1tzillaaa
@bl1tzillaaa 2 жыл бұрын
Took 6:30 to turn this into a leaf convo
@oogieboogie5678
@oogieboogie5678 2 жыл бұрын
Idk about that blues offer...Ive seen multiple reports on kyrou, krug and a first being the offer and I can't remember who but it was confirmed by someone close 🤷
@zullumcfey1594
@zullumcfey1594 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the news here was Kyrou was not to be asked for in the trade offers. Krug would have had to waived...it think it was a partial ..no trade clause. So both of them had been ruled out very early on in the talks.
@oogieboogie5678
@oogieboogie5678 2 жыл бұрын
@@zullumcfey1594 According to the Athletics Jeremy Rutherford, the Blues offered a package of Jordan Kyrou, Torey Krurg and a 1st round pick for Matthew Tkachuk, which the Flames turned down. That was copy and pasted from an article on The Athletic 🤷
@zullumcfey1594
@zullumcfey1594 2 жыл бұрын
@@oogieboogie5678 I seen that but I think..could be wrong lol..but after that on the radio here Jamie Rivers was mentioning he did not believe that to be true. His sources said Kyrou..Thomas and Parakyo where all off the table in the talks. Maybe it is all the years reading his stuff..but I tend to ignore Rutherford as he has some bad takes. But yeah who knows who was right and maybe they both got different stories based on the days.
@blueskiatwar
@blueskiatwar 2 жыл бұрын
I was so upset to so happy in such a short time.
@mrsuarez430
@mrsuarez430 2 жыл бұрын
I love huby been watching him for 10 years its he going to ask for 10 7+ years he's 30 weegs is clock burner but I think he had some very yandlesk moments in crunch time and hes going to ask for 5 to 7 a year .. im straight panthers extended they're window
@tomiuuttera638
@tomiuuttera638 2 жыл бұрын
Do you guys understand that signing bonuses are also taxable in the state that your living? Normal salary gets taxed where you play your road games. Also is nice to be lockdown proof but that is the main reason.
@benchow8851
@benchow8851 2 жыл бұрын
This 'great haul' can quickly turn into a bad trade if Huberdeau and/or Weeger don't sign extensions. Problem with this is you don't really want to give TWO 29yr-olds max money on 8-year deals.
@Just____STEVE7
@Just____STEVE7 2 жыл бұрын
Duclair is being moved to LTIR, they aren’t 3mil over
@BvG_Venom
@BvG_Venom 2 жыл бұрын
I think having conditions on a 4th rd pick or later is a little comical
@DavidBrown-eo4bh
@DavidBrown-eo4bh 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta laugh, they said Huby wasn't Hart material because his insane numbers were a product of being on the most prolific offense the league has seen in 25 yrs. Now those same people are saying we got fleeced because Huby is a top 5 player in the league. Which one is it? Lol. I'm a Cats season ticket holder, I'll break it down for the unedumacated. Huby takes games off, he will disappear for 3 games , then have 5 points the next game. And he's useless in the playoffs, his game doesn't work when there's no space. Weegar is an abomination, he's horrible, had we a real coach with hair on his balls, Weegs probably gets benched after that epic brainfart in game 2. The man probably cost us the series vs. Bolts. Cole Schwindt is a nobody, moving on, and a late round 1st in 2025 is irrelevant at this point. Weegs and Huby saying all the right things, but if you think there's any , any, any chance of Flames resigning them, you don't know hockey. Theres actually a better chance of my penis growing while I sleep. Matty T is a stud who's only 24 and locked up long term. So tell me, who really won this trade?
@ryancarney143
@ryancarney143 Жыл бұрын
you aint wrong...
@tristanpillar3849
@tristanpillar3849 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be a huge fan on Tkachuk, now I couldn't care care less. Same with Gaudreau. They don't want to be in Calgary, then no need to give them the time of day. I wish them the best but will never cheer for them again. Now just focus on the team we have. I feel Edmonton is the Canadian team to beat this year .......but....... '"if" Calgary was able to make it farther than they did this year in the playoffs....well....well....who would be laughing then.....lol.....
@ilkkak3065
@ilkkak3065 2 жыл бұрын
I guess we are gonna see Patric Horqvist trade soon...
@user-by3nd4rm6c
@user-by3nd4rm6c 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, Lucic's contract has only one year left, WHADDAYA MEAN IT WILL NEVER END????
@sgunz
@sgunz 2 жыл бұрын
Just ask Drew if the Kuemper Trade was too rich now. As it was said, if you win no one cares.
@jeff69pita
@jeff69pita 2 жыл бұрын
No sound.
@stoves92
@stoves92 2 жыл бұрын
Unmute youtube? Have sound here.
@jeff69pita
@jeff69pita 2 жыл бұрын
@@stoves92 weird, that's what I thought, but I started other videos and they all have sounds...
@WaddickLawnCare
@WaddickLawnCare 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeff69pita if you watch a video right after it is put out they may not have sound be patient and wait
@peaboss
@peaboss 13 күн бұрын
00:45 starts
@BMXIX
@BMXIX 2 ай бұрын
Huberdeau fell off after this trade. Florida went to the Cup, and might go again(assuming they beat the Rags). In hindsight FLA did very well
@sebastianrokicki98
@sebastianrokicki98 2 жыл бұрын
Huberdeau - Lindholm - Nylander
@MySundin13
@MySundin13 2 жыл бұрын
They're both gonna bolt from Calgary....so now it's just till the deadline that they'll have these two.
@lunarbunny3021
@lunarbunny3021 2 жыл бұрын
Well, this aged poorly
@joeancona2784
@joeancona2784 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's only fitting, St Louis, and their so called GENIUS,GM,tried to get by cheap.He proceeded to send Terasenko, and some scrub player to Calgary!!! Are You kidding me???? Despite Terasenkos contributions to the team ,ARMSTRONG, has been trying to ship him out of town ,in order to clear up cap space!!!
@Ka_Gg
@Ka_Gg 2 жыл бұрын
Blues fan here. Army is overrated. He's a good GM but not spectacular. He wasn't going to offer a crazy package like the Panthers did. Scandella sucks. He has almost no trade value. I don't blame Army for not getting MT here. Cost was too high
@Ka_Gg
@Ka_Gg 2 жыл бұрын
Tarasenko requested a trade. Not like the blues are just trying to get rid of him for no reason
@joeancona2784
@joeancona2784 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ka_Gg yeah he did ,but, No one would have thought he would still be around, ARMSTRONG, like many GMs is nothing Short of a liar!! Just when he says how much they want to keep a player, next minute they are gone, Examples, David perron, Ville Husso !! And if I were Terasenko, I would try to get traded ASAP!! The media is attempting to call out these GMs regarding injuries, they constantly lie about a players injury, it's either lower or upper body!!
@Ka_Gg
@Ka_Gg 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeancona2784 the reason why Tarasenko is still around is because last offseason he had almost no trade value. The reason why he wants out is because of the two surgeries. In terms of husso, everyone knew he was going to be traded or he would have got a good offer sheet from another team. I agree with the David Perron situation, but what someone says in public maybe completely different than what is said in private. They gave him a contract offer in the middle of the season. I personally feel like they were expecting to trade Tarasenko and would have the money to sign Peron. Look at their salary cap. They have less than $1 million dollars and there is no way they'd be able to sign perron
@user-iz3gv5vo6b
@user-iz3gv5vo6b 2 жыл бұрын
Treliving committed highway robbery. Huberdeau just finished his 4th straight season above a point per game and is a better player than Gaudreau getting paid just $5.9M. Just him alone replaces Gaudreau and then some. Weegar is a top 4 D on pretty much any team in the league, and Top 2 on some. They also get a prospect AND a 1st for the risk that neither guy re-signs, and CGY still has plenty of Cap to re-sign Mangiapane, and bring on some forwards like Kadri, Kessel, Stastny, Rodrigues, or Milano.
@ryancarney143
@ryancarney143 Жыл бұрын
i think Zito was the one doin the robbing LOL
@user-iz3gv5vo6b
@user-iz3gv5vo6b Жыл бұрын
@@ryancarney143 Yeah, he took a President's Cup-winning team and turned them into one that barely squeaks into a wildcard spot. In the process FLA doesn't have any 1st round picks for the next 3 seasons.
@ryancarney143
@ryancarney143 Жыл бұрын
@@user-iz3gv5vo6b one team made the plaoffs and the other did not. enough said
@user-iz3gv5vo6b
@user-iz3gv5vo6b Жыл бұрын
@@ryancarney143 And both teams woud have been much better if the trade was never made. President's Trophy to Wildcard. FLA finished a point BEHIND CGY. Great "improvement". LOL.
@ryancarney143
@ryancarney143 Жыл бұрын
@@user-iz3gv5vo6b does making the eastern conference finals change your mind yet? looooooooool
@mcostan7
@mcostan7 Жыл бұрын
“That guy’s an ahole back there” yeah no. massively overrated. giving him $5m or more is a mistake
@isidro9911
@isidro9911 2 жыл бұрын
I heard that dubass offered kerfoot and holl plus Robertson a 1st, 2nd and 3rd and a team friendly hometown discount contract of 8 years 11 million per year but Tkachuk said no because he wanted to get past the first round... Book it!!!
@canadian1445
@canadian1445 2 жыл бұрын
Hometown discount for who? Tkatchuk's from the states...
@bobthebencher6201
@bobthebencher6201 2 жыл бұрын
I heard you did a better job of beating this dead horse but I guess not
@isidro9911
@isidro9911 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobthebencher6201 you can never 🏏🐴 like the classic team friendly hometown discount contracts that dubass likes to hand out.
@bobthebencher6201
@bobthebencher6201 2 жыл бұрын
@@isidro9911 do you even know what a hometown discount is? You’ve repeated the heck out of it while it makes absolutely no sense in any context you’ve used it in. Example of hometown discount Jason spezza.. Tavares obviously not now but at the time he would be looking for more from anyone else.. can’t wait for your next smooth brain comment trying to rationalize your nonsense
@outerfroggy1
@outerfroggy1 2 жыл бұрын
This didn't happen so hard it unhappened things that had
@dukem991
@dukem991 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet in the pot on kerfoot no way
@coryseaward975
@coryseaward975 2 жыл бұрын
Lol.. Tkachuk wasn't the man in calgary, nor was it gaudreau.. The real deal was lindholm. I watched all the flames games, live near edmonton. I can tell you as of right now, both tkaplunk and Gaudreau won't get anywhere near the points they did this year. They'll end up with around 70 points each. Lindholm did all the work. Fighting in the corners, getting the turnovers. I will laugh when everyone realizes how bad these two are when someone else isn't pulling their weight.
@ryancarney143
@ryancarney143 Жыл бұрын
YIKES what a bad take lmao
@deadst4r
@deadst4r 3 күн бұрын
Just looked up the LeafsNeedGod tweet so I can laugh at him and the coward deleted the tweet lol
@semmcstevenson
@semmcstevenson 2 жыл бұрын
Florida got ripped off.
@dayhon199
@dayhon199 2 жыл бұрын
I say this with love, especially when it comes to talking hockey podcasts, but for the love of all that is holy PLEASE find new sponsors. I am so sick and tired of something so inherently evil being promoted so so so much. I like watching hockey on TV so I have to put up with those ads, but I don't have to watch this or your podcast. Otherwise y'all are awesome and I love the talk
@BridgewatersFinest
@BridgewatersFinest 2 жыл бұрын
"Inherently evil" 😂🤦‍♂️
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