27:06 "Ernest Hemingway once wrote: 'The world is a fine place and worth fighting for.' I agree with the second part."

John Doe doesn't think he's the best. He literally kills himself in his own plan because he judges himself just as terrible as everyone else.

Kevin Spacey nailed it on this role, like Anthony Hopkins nailed it when he played Hannibal Lecter on Silence of the Lambs.

Fun fact: The studio wanted David Fincher to change the ending because of how much of a downer it was, but they let him keep it after Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman threatened to walk out.

That ending was so memorable with one of the greatest plot twists in movie history.

Vicky: "With this build up, this better be the craziest thing I've ever seen." Me: Giggles maniacally.

*picks up Phone* This isnt even my desk. * hangs up*

The end scene is my favourite for a movie: so stressfull and unexcepted. Kevin Spacey played an iconic bad guy and very smart

Any time you hear "Whats in the box" you'll always think of this movie

No-one in the history of humanity has ever done "Buddy, buddy chest-shaving time".

No jury in the world would convict Mills for blasting him.

Kevin Spacey may be an absolute POS in real life, but goddamn is he a fantastic actor. K-PAX, if you've never seen it, is a great movie (in my humble opinion, of course).

Fun Fact: the prop head for Gwyneth Paltrow made for this movie was reused for her corpse in Contagion, after it sat in storage at the studio for years!

It was Spacey's idea to not be anywhere in the opening credits or marketing materials (posters, commercials, etc.), so that his reveal was that much more impactful. But as the star, he's contractually supposed to get top billing, so the compromise was that he get top billing in the END credits.

It's all fun and games until you find Gwyneth Paltrow's head in a box.

This is one of the best thrillers made. It's paced well and tense. David Fincher delivered at master piece.

"The Batman" with Robert Pattinson feels like it takes place in this universe. Very similar cinematography between them and the tone of both feels very similar.

There's so much to say about the gorgeous and meticulous way Fincher shot this movie (like the rest), how and when he frames the actors, how and when the camera moves, why it switches from static to hand held, in line with how the story unfolds and at which point it becomes more chaotic and fast paced. Simply majestic. And that iconic ending.

Everytime you watch the scene where Morgan Freeman laughs, you gain seconds of life...

Little clue: John Doe's diary talks about having a headache so bad he pukes over a guy. The drawer of his desk in his apartment is full of empty aspirin bottles. So there's literally something wrong with his head, which is probably what made him insane.

The _Sloth_ jump-scare was legit. The director snuck the actor in prior to the scene, and told him not to move. That way, when the other actors came in, they totally thought the body was just a gross prop. They start the scene, guy stays dead still... for like 15+ minutes. So when he finally coughed, the other actors damn near died from the shock XD

Saw this movie in like 1999 and it’s still the first thing I think of when someone asks “what’s in the box?”

It is my head canon that this is Gotham City prior to Batman taking up the Cowl.

The first dead body is the writer. 1:54

"buddy-buddy chest shaving time" I worry about Vicki sometimes 😂

"What's in the box?!" I ask that question every chance I get.

This is one of my favorite movies. Fun fact: this movie is called Seven, today is my birthday; I'm 47 years old, and my birthdate is 7-7-77.

V "So 7 refers to the number of days" Me "not even close"

This was one of the more difficult movies for me to watch. At the final scene I can't think of a single person that would not do what Brad Pitt's character did but at the same time morally I understand that two wrongs don't make a right

Btw their boss is played by Lee Ermey, who famously played the senior drill instructor Hartman in Full Metal Jacket.

in 1997 Kevin Spacey hosted an episode of SNL instead of a monologue he sang a song. the funny part was the captions underneath him while he was singing. They have aged either terribly or wonderfully depending on your viewpoint: - The only reason we allowed Kevin Spacey to sing this song is because he threatened us. - Seriously. - He is a very sick individual with severe emotional problems. - For example, he demanded a separate dressing room for "the bad Kevin". - Kevin Spacey also has a history of violent behavior. - According to his court-appointed psychiatrist, you "should avoid making any sudden movements around Kevin spacey." - The next time you see one of his movies, just remember that Kevin Spacey plays psychos... - Because he really is a psycho.

Like that you made the Fight Club connection, seemingly without knowing both movies are from the same director.

They wanted to create a city that was a cross between NY, Boston, L.A. and Detroit.

"I thought it was a little mousetrap he put on his ding dong" 🤣🤣🤣

Buddy/buddy chest shaving and ding-dong mousetraps. Hahahaha! Her imagination cracks me up.

The "What's In The Box?" scene is like the "I See Dead People." From the Sixth Sense, in that this many years after the movies came out, some people don't know the twist. I wish I could have that first reaction again, but its fun watching the younger reactors experience the surprise.

"I thought it was just going to be a little mousetrap on his ding-dong." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

No jury in the world would put Mills in jail. Thats what you call justifiable homicide.

And not one jury would convict Mills of murder. He might even be police again after a time.

this is the kind of movie that changes a person....

Mills' large dogs confined to a tiny room was an added detail further driving the point that his family likely moved from a large suburban property and quite a different setting than their current situation.

FINCHER.

Maybe the darkest movie I've ever seen, chilling. But the execution of all the bits and pieces of it? Undeniable excellence.

What's fascinating about this movie is that it never actually shows you the most gruesome stuff it just leaves it up to your imagination

"What's in the box?" became a very meme-able phrase with a very dark origin for those that saw the whole movie and not just the edited reaction scenes.

I've watched some messed up movies with characters that committ terrible crimes and violations, I'm sure we all have, but I've always thought to myself, "yeah, if I wrote a script about a serial killer (etc) I could have come up with something like that". But that frickin harness John Doe makes the guy wear and he kills the prostitute with it, man oh man. In a million years I would never have thought about that, and I am a little bit worried that a supposedly upstanding citizen (whoever wrote the script or came up with the idea) thought of it at all, and is walking around among us. o.O

Vicky is just too wholesome for this movie 🖤 When I think of a sick movie I think of something like Terrifier or Human Centipede 2 but I watched this movie when I was like 15 lol

David Bowie's "Heart's Filthy Lesson" when the credits roll, hits like a cold shower right after a hot one.

"He's acting so creepy. How is he such a good fit for this role?" Reviews the testimony against Kevin Spacey.

Fun Fact: R Lee Ermey original auditioned for John Doe, but David Fincher thought he’d be better as the Police Chief… but Ermey as John Doe would of been wild lol

WHAT'S IN THE BOX!

@19:05 That's legitimately Stan and Wendy in the first couple of seasons of South Park.

A very dark, disturbing, clever movie. Really well done. Whether you like Fincher’s work or not, he knows how to make a picture, and he was the right choice to direct a very clever script.

Absolutely love this movie. So many great touches. Right down to the credits scrolling from the top-down at the end

Glad you picked up on everything so quickly, you were paying close attention. Se7en is a rough ride that elevated horror forever. I especially appreciated how the movie is so noisy, gritty, and rainy - until John Doe appears later in the film. You can see the rain stopping as his cab pulls up to the police station before he surrenders himself. Anyways, appreciated your perspectives and looking forward to the next one V!

There's a reason this is one of my all time favourites. So well done.

It's a skilled filmmaker who can make you feel things like that. I saw it at the movies in '95, I couldn't move until the credits had stopped rolling, I was so devastated. I've watched it 200 times since and it STILL gets me every time....

Oh yes, the old mousetrap on the dingdong

The City is one of the best settings in film, in my opinion. They literally would delay filming until the weather was shitty so they could get the right vibe.

By the way, the rain and the urban aesthetic is Seattle. Fincher chose the city for both this and Fight Club specifically for the gray, dreary, lachrymose feel of the city. edit: Also, I love that some sort of intra-cervical mousetrap device is far more wholesome than the actual leather...'device' used for the Lust murder.

The most frigthening thing about this film is just how right the killer is about the world we live in. His actions are wrong but his outlook is spot on.

IN BOTH "THE USUAL SUSPECTS"AND "SE7EN" KEVIN SPACEY NAILED IT AND BOTH MOVIESWERE RELEASED IN SAME YEAR🤯

Fantastic movie I remember seeing it with my Grandmother and Mother of all people . Thought we were seeing some lame detective movie … the opening credits kicked in and I knew this was something special ..

if you've never seen it i would suggest watching "The Mothman Prophecies" it's a very good thriller that is based on true events!

Another reaction I saw, one of the viewers said that the rain meant that the killer was still at large. I have no idea what the correlation of that was or how she even picked up on it but when I paid attention again, I realized that the rain had stopped when John Doe turned himself in. Then I started noticing the similar theme and use of rain in other movies

I haven't had "buddy buddy group chest shaving time" in a while. Good times

Not such a fun fact: The strings Somerset pulls to get info on the murderer - the ones that he says aren't exactly legal to pull.... After the US PATRIOT Act was passed in the riptide of post-9/11 paranoia, that stuff is niiiiiice and legal now for law enforcement.

This was definitely a suspenseful movie but thanks for watching it Vicky.🙋📺

I was a theatre manager when this came out. We would screen the prints the night before opening to make sure everything is okay. I was talking with the projectionists and one of them said they heard there's a shocker of an ending. We started to joke around speculating who the killer was. Pitt. Freeman. I said, "I know who it is! It's Keyser Soze." The Usual Suspects opened maybe a month earlier. The screening was open to employees. When Spacey showed up, those of us who were in that conversation laughed-out-loud and pointed at the screen. I remember saying "It's Keyser Soze!"

I literally just got my hair cut at the barber shop they used for the BDSM leather store. 5th and Spring, DTLA, Bolt Barbers. So this is a timely upload from Vickie!

Spacey plays creeps pretty perfectly, since that is close to his real personality.

When David Fincher wants to haunts you he HAUNTS you.

The jump from hancock to seven is crazy

When my future wife and I saw this in the theater, most of the audience stayed seated and you could have heard a pin drop. Everyone was stunned. This film certainly makes you think, not that it's a good thing all the time. It's also a master class if you want to write a script that builds tension.

I love this movie, but then I'm drawn to the darker themes. I love a bleak ending, and this is one of the best ever, and fantastic performances throughout. It was between this and Kalifornia (1993) that I was sold on the idea that Brad Pitt was more than just a pretty face. Then 12 Monkeys really just sealed it (I believe that came out a little after Se7en).

You should watch The Game 1997 from the same director and one the best movies ever made

I always think of the MTV skit with William Shatner "what's in the Box??!!"

My buddies and I shave our chests together every Tuesday. It's totally normal.

The film looks absolutely incredible. They really captured lighting in a bottle with the cinematography in way lots of films just don't have it these days.

My favorite character in this movie is "California", the sniper in the helicopter, with the all-time great line "Somebody.... call somebody...". Played by Scrubs surgeon and Office Space consultant John McGinley.

♪But there's no happy endings, Not here and not now ♪This tale is all sorrows and woes ♪You might dream that justice and peace win the day ♪But that's not how the story goes

The rain is because this is a style called "film noir". Mostly used in the 30's and 40's. Blade Runner is another modern film to use the this visual style

This is actually a movie about hope. Somerset was living in total apathy. The city has beaten him. Where is he going ? "Far from here." But then comes Mills and his lovely wife whom upset his equilibrium completely. When Mills tells Somerset "I will not say that" about Somerset's defeatism, that night he throws his metronome to the floor. His apathy has been completely shaken apart. Unfortunately the city destroys both Mills and Tracy (Mills would not serve time as he was manipulated beyond rational control). But Somerset has been redeemed. Where will he be ? "I'll be around."

interstingly he'd never get off pleading insanity. His entire speech in the car shows he satisfies the legal standard for sanity which is not being a killer but understanding "right from wrong." His speach on morality is literally about knowing right from wrong, punishing sinners.

Going from The Karate Kid to Se7en is one hell of a swing...no pun intended

“It looks exactly the same if you turned it upside down” that’s what I’ve been saying! 🤣😂

Fincher absolutely plateaued with this masterpiece...best phycological thriller ever.

This movie was brought to you by the colour Red and the word 'EW!'

Loved the reaction to this! If you go back and look at it, it is really interesting how at 20:20 while describing what the leather workers contraption could be, that it comes out as a joke and a couple of small laughs\smiles when its assume to be something that harmed the man. In stark contrast, the reaction very different was when it was revealed to be the other way round. I'm not calling you specifically out on it, its a strange cultural phenomenon that violence (particularly intimate violence) against men is normalized.

Is it just me... Or is VKunia really attractive?

Kevin Spacey was the it guy in the 90s. He did this and Usual Suspects, same year! This director is just a handful of directors that just see movies differently!

Yeah you're spot on about the rain. Rainy weather and moody scenes are classic noir tropes. Blade Runner is another good example of that

Dark, moody, and atmospheric are David Fincher's bread and butter.

The city is never actually mentioned in the movie. It was purposely kept ambiguous in order to symbolize that it could be any city, anywhere.

28:00. "It reminded me of 'Fight Club'" That's because both were directed by David Fincher who is known for dark settings. Now, you just have to watch his other classic "The Game" (1997) starring Michael Douglas and Sean Penn.

Apart from the ending, it also features one of the most haunting title sequences ever

Seven, Usual Suspects, Resevoir Dogs, L.A Confidential . . . The 90s had some fucking fire movies 💪😎💪

You probably saw it already, but if you go to time stamp 26:48 and go frame-by-frame you'll see a subliminal flash of Tracy's face that Mills sees as he's agonizing over what he thinks has happened. I think it's only 1 frame - which would be 1/24th of a second shooting film - so a lot of people miss it.

Saw this in the theater in college. Think the whole place shit collectively when Victor jerks awake.

well since we're here, we might aswell ask for Memento