Season 28 G3 RTA Tierlist By Seiishizo - With Timestamps

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Season 28 G3 RTA Tierlist By Seiishizo - With Timestamps - Summoners War

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The new units are more of a guess rather than knowing if they are good keep that in mind!
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
3:45 - Few Units not included in the list
5:00 - Ninja
6:00 - Valkyrja & Clara
10:00 - Eshir
11:20 - Dragon & Vampire
16:15 - Chimera
21:00 - Archangel
22:15 - Oracle
29:05 - Occult girl
35:15 - Hell lady
40:00 - Lich
41:15 - Dragon knight
48:00 - Monkey king
53:50 - Sky Dancer & Pioneer
58:55 - Ifrit
1:01:20 - Polar queen
1:04:10 - Mermaids
1:05:45 - Sea emperor
1:10:15 - Desert queen
1:17:30 - Wedjat
1:20:00 - Fairy King
1:23:50 - Racuni
1:24:35 - Panda
1:27:55 - Unicorn & Tablo & Harp Mage
1:33:25 - Paladin & Dryad
1:36:12 - Druid
1:39:40 - Lightning emperor
1:40:00 - Cannon girl & Demon
1:45:00 - Beast Rider
1:52:00 - Art Master
2:00:00 - Striker
2:06:00 - Slayer
2:10:05 - Onmyouji
2:15:25 - Onimusha
2:18:15 - Mage
2:21:00 - Sky surfer (Jackson is last unit placed)
2:25:55 - Robo
2:28:45 - Totemist
2:32:00 - Weapon master
2:35:35 - Shadowcaster
2:39:50 - Battle Angel
2:43:35 - Hollyberry
2:45:15 - Pure Vanilla
2:49:10 - Puppeteer
2:54:05 - AC Units
3:01:20 - Indra + Rest of new units, however they are more a guess

Пікірлер: 50

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

Edit: I missed Chandra, he's 77.5 Tier to me Explanation of the tiers: - 100 - 97.5 Strongest unit in the game with crazy win rates, and high pick rates - 95 - 92.5 Next in line most powerful units however have more counters to it - 90 Solid picks through out either as first pick or hard counter - 85 Strong units however can be hard countered or lacking some in res checks sometimes - 75 Mostly good 5th picks or units that need a particular team around them what they should do, however, they have their fair share of counters to them as well. - 75 Mostly good 5th picks or units that need a very specific team around them - 70 Situational good units but won't always perform to the expected standard - 65 Rare case solid picks, however same as the rank above, do not always perform to expecttions - 60 and below including not on the list: Too hard to rune/needs too specific teams becomes predictable/just not good enough/Below 1% pick rate/ just a bad unit.

@potatomatop9326 7 ай бұрын

Bro, you're the only tier creator that i believe and agree to. If you say this guy is SSS then he is!

@ahouse73 7 ай бұрын

Wait isn’t every new unit tripple s like other content creators say ? 😮

@queep8197 7 ай бұрын

@@ahouse73in SW every new unit is F tier lmao

@Mr_Mandrew 7 ай бұрын

Some may say that he’s in the 100 tier

@jHJHJjHidie 7 ай бұрын

10yr later it will still be tian lang … they should change the summoner war icon to TL instead of light arch angel

@ZonTeoZiqi 7 ай бұрын

Tell me how Lora is not nerf when she can violent proc on her first skill, stun on her second skill and strip, def buff and speed buff on skill 3 and she has one of the fastest base speed as a stripper. Her kit is too insane. At almost 58% win rate in g3 this is unacceptable.

@xxxxdddddss 7 ай бұрын

the answer is: com2us

@jonyongkkkl5119 7 ай бұрын

Com2us can remove Wolyung's 3rd skill and still it would not affect her, that's how bad her 3rd skill is.

@radekmojzis9829 7 ай бұрын

As someone who has geldnir, herteit and trinity, i have to agree, not placing them on the tierlist is where they belong.

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

they are used elsewhere, not in rta :P

@Mblackfire 7 ай бұрын

You need more likes bro

@danielginn516 7 ай бұрын

I love these tier lists

@wsauret 7 ай бұрын

I know you said it is hard to place the first units, but Verad ended up severely underrated on this tierlist. He's 53% winrate and 3% pick rate in both G1 and G3 and you put him in the same tier as Raki, who is 48% winrate and 1% pick rate in G3. And then Elenoa two levels above with worse stats. I know stats aren't everything, but do you just not like Verad or something?

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

verad is highly elevated by winrate due to lora being that good. If you have a lora then yes verad becomes toptier. without it, a taor would do a lot more.

@alex1989andru 7 ай бұрын

I have 4 ld nat 5, and only one is in the tier list...of course that one is the only one i never used, Ella 🤣

@gold12161 7 ай бұрын

Just came to confirm that I wasn't the only one who thought that Kinki was in fact better than Ongyouki. And yeah... It's like they felt guilty for nerfing Kinky too much and decided his nat 5 brother needed some "love". I think Ongouki as he is could've just been an LD 4 star. As least then he'd shine in special league lol

@Schlabbekicker 7 ай бұрын

Got Oberon yesterday and was super happy but then i had the exact same feeling as you regarding the fire gladiatrix

@michael199820 7 ай бұрын

You should be more careful when assessing G3 data, a lot of the time it has nothing to really do with the unit being better in G3 but its just a few people boosting it over the G1 win rate. For example antares win rate is only higher in G3 because of pinkroid & reach, if you take them out the win rate is literally the same as in G1. Even units like lora are boosted a lot by only a handful of players even though her pickrate is so high, her win rate is "only" 53% when you remove the 5 obvious LD abusers. In the end the vast majority of G3 data is just heavily skewed by 5 players, once you take them out it pretty much aligns with G1 data. Overall, still a great tier list regardless though.

@BlackSun90 7 ай бұрын

there is a reason g3 is whats looked at. When all rune quality is basically even the true performance of a monster can be be evaluated. Should be obvious that bigger rune disparity happens at lower ranks. then goes on to say lora only 53% after you take away the ld5as if she is not boosting. Not realizing that oliver at his best before nerfs by himself was like 54%’ish so pretending thats not a number that boosts more than a handful of players by community standards is laughable

@michael199820 7 ай бұрын

@@BlackSun90 Im not sure what you are on about but this is something that I literally calculated based on the more detailed data breakdown in swrt itself. G3 data samples are too small and heavily skewed by only a handful of players who spam said unit and play a lot. Like lora has 28k samples which sounds a lot until you realise 1k of them are the same person (samuraisilver) who spams a bunch of other lds. When you take out 5 of such outliers the WR drops closer to the G1 numbers.

@wsauret 7 ай бұрын

Do you advise just using the G1 data instead since the sample sizes are much larger and thus less influenced by specific LD abusers?

@johnallen6988 7 ай бұрын

Seiishizo, If you had a new account that pulled a Lora. What kind of units would you use to team up with her ?(Kind of F2P options) Would Crane work?

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

crane can work, yea. but keep in mind this tierlist is based on having good runes and good artifacts to make units shine.

@owenfifield92 5 ай бұрын

do you guys forsee a moore nerf? i have him abellio and shizuka as possible picks for my free nat5 event and i just have this lingering feeling that he will get nerfed soon after i summon him due to his high pick and win rate.

@Seiishizo 5 ай бұрын

not sure, theres many core meta units right now. He doesn't stand out by a huge margin or anything, its all kinda same. therefore i think he won't get a nerf.

@owenfifield92 5 ай бұрын

@@Seiishizo thanks for the input!

@simonschaden5684 7 ай бұрын

Dark bayek /salah doesn’t even make the list¿ feels good to be the owner of him, Celia and jager

@wackman4427 7 ай бұрын

I think Liliana needs an entire rework. Buffing her too much can create a monster.

@oodanna500 7 ай бұрын

one day DKnights will get a different debuff on s1 (fingers crossed on def break) instead of a terrible dot that only triggers on crit

@Seiishizo 7 ай бұрын

sounds very OP if DK can setup self with s1->s2

@oodanna500 7 ай бұрын

@@Seiishizo but it does sound possible if you consider how much com2us "listens to user opinions", (although making dknight s1 apply glancing sounds even more likely because dknights are totally debuffers)

@simonschaden5684 7 ай бұрын

I have jager and ragdoll, I’d be happy to see this change at the cost of raggys passive. It lost its flavor long ago

@quangvu9233 7 ай бұрын

perfect normal distribution @@

@BB-uj1jp 7 ай бұрын

Ogni bad compared to kinki and one is a nat5 and one a nat4 - i mean if you dont nerf kinki ok but at least buff ogni then, both are only useable in RTA no where else so you can compare them