Sebenza vs umnumzaan ( my favorite is.....)

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Vincenzo Nero

Vincenzo Nero

4 жыл бұрын

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@ironbound1984
@ironbound1984 4 жыл бұрын
Between the two id pick Umnumzaan
@jsagazio
@jsagazio 3 жыл бұрын
Nah
@hermanlopez2945
@hermanlopez2945 9 ай бұрын
Wow very detailed review, thank you.
@patrickvanovermeeren4513
@patrickvanovermeeren4513 4 жыл бұрын
Good video !! Great comparison, thanks for sharing !!
@DavidM-lj5yv
@DavidM-lj5yv 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your vids today-- great stuff. I've only been collecting EDC type knives for 6 months or so. I've bought maybe 25 knives past 6 months and been learning a lot. I needed a new hobby!! Oddly enough, I did buy the Sebenza years ago before I even started really collecting knives-- But I never carry it cause I don't want to lose my $400 knife!! Great presentations keep em coming.
@brokebikemtb4448
@brokebikemtb4448 4 жыл бұрын
Carry it man....these are meant to be used
@lucacadianalbert
@lucacadianalbert 4 жыл бұрын
I have those 3 knives (plus a few more) and the Large inlay CRKs win every day of the week for mw. my current favorites are the Seb 25 and Large Inkosi. I used to carry my zaan a lot until I got a large micarta 21...then it was instant change of hearts. I need to send my Zaan in for spa - it's beat to death and the main pivot is completely seized.
@tjjeff6460
@tjjeff6460 4 жыл бұрын
Just subbed. Keep up the great reviews.
@randallkelley3599
@randallkelley3599 4 жыл бұрын
I still have my Umnum from 2009, don’t carry until we go to dinner at range. Good cutter.
@joshuabriggs7114
@joshuabriggs7114 4 жыл бұрын
Nice discussion Vinny. I agree with most of your points but am surprised you didn't mention the glass breaker or the ceramic lock face/detente ball of the 'Zaan. I think these features, the blade shape (great leveraging points for control), and the adjustable pivot make the 'Zaan the winner for me. I too have a double stud 21 and stupidly sold my micarta inlay Sebbie for an Inkosi which I just don't love like the Umnumzaan. Will probably sell/trade the Inkosi for another micarta 21. Can't go wrong with any CRK!
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
Yea i always feel like there's never enough time to get to everything i want to hit on. I find that anything longer then 20 minutes, most people don't make it to the end. Even in this video i thought i was moving quickly, aiming for 20 minutes, and it turned out to be 30 anyway 🙄. I'll hit on the ceramic interface in the week update. I'm really interested to get a 31 that has the ceramic ball as well. And yea the control you have over the umnum is definitely note worthy (not that the 21 is bad) but the umnum has a slight advantage. Thanks for watching
@zaheerkader7426
@zaheerkader7426 3 жыл бұрын
Just swapped my inkosi for the umnumzaan adn its the superior blade in control, sharpness and tolerances. Should have done this sooner . The new overtravel stop is nice too, another feature on the sebenzas
@blanebiondolillo4930
@blanebiondolillo4930 4 жыл бұрын
on Sebenza's one must allow a break in time! mileage may vary though, mine took like 2 weeks to smooth out, or use UF stone like said.
@AntonChou
@AntonChou 4 жыл бұрын
would like to see a comparison between blade shapes, especially insingo vs drop point
@kerrykitterman4602
@kerrykitterman4602 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer sheepsfoots ,myself...Kerry
@jackdarippa8119
@jackdarippa8119 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to buying one of the new Sebenza 31. Busing pivot with a cermaic lock up... count me in.
@nickkazarian3334
@nickkazarian3334 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool video. Will you make a video on how you treat the Sebenza washers? 👍🏻
@ftlaud911
@ftlaud911 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Picked the small inkosi tanto as my first CRK. It's a super small stubby blade tank. Somehow it feels great in my L/XL hands with the landyard. Very slight hotspot with the clip. Super easy to carry and vanishes in your pocket. Liked it so much I just got a used small 21. Being slighly bigger helps ergos, but action is totally different. Even broken in I prefer the inkosi. Smooth, but has resistance. Sebenza is smooth with way less resistance. Want a large CRK, but still deciding if I need one. My XM18 3.5 skinny fills all my large knife role demands. IMHO any small CRK can do everything a large can and be easier to carry. No wrong choice and feel fortunate I can experience any CRK.
@gtrul3s387
@gtrul3s387 Жыл бұрын
I did the same. My first one is a small inkosi tanto. Love it that much that i’ve ordered a umnumzaan tanto in s45vn. Can’t wait to get it! I have a skinny xm-18 as well and i love it too. But i ordered the umnumzaan anyway hahaha
@jkstdstang
@jkstdstang 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the comparison as im in the market for a large CRK soon to complement my small 21 inlay. I like how you touched on the zaan lock bar disengagement because I've heard people complain about that. also heard that the zaan lock bar can kinda stab into your grip but I haven't handled one so not sure. is the zaan thicker behind the edge than the sebenza and is it also a hollow Grind as I do love the high hollow on my 21.
@masonball5
@masonball5 4 жыл бұрын
Good video Vinny, I’ve been wondering about your thoughts on the Zaan for a while. Only thing I was curious about, that you didn’t go over, was the ceramic ball lockup vs the standard sebenza lockup (unless I missed it).
@timyoung715
@timyoung715 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Nero love ur vids. Are u planning on getting a Inkosi? Would really like to hear ur thoughts on the small and large
@keeganshafer1539
@keeganshafer1539 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I would love to see a video on the microtech LUDT.
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@kevinfitz3721
@kevinfitz3721 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a tire test between these two and throw in the socom elite and sng while your at it and see wich handle is the most comfortable
@anthonyb2990
@anthonyb2990 3 жыл бұрын
Love the lanyard bead on your Zaan, where did you get it? also 10/10 vid
@LIE4ME
@LIE4ME 4 жыл бұрын
10:07 Thumbs up for having a format and striving to put out your best video. It ran long but that's ok. A ramble with no direction of any length is tough to watch (unless you agree completely with the content provider). Being organized and going over time is passion - that deserves a 👍🏼!
@johnmaher4431
@johnmaher4431 3 жыл бұрын
That sage 2 is sweet knife love the zann too !!
@randallkelley3599
@randallkelley3599 4 жыл бұрын
I put red O rings on mine, good contrast.
@duckscolts
@duckscolts 4 жыл бұрын
After now having owned these and the 31.. I’d say my favorite order goes.. Sebenza 31 > Umnumzaan > Sebenza 21
@DigitalHeadShots
@DigitalHeadShots 4 жыл бұрын
What about the 31 puts it above the others in your opinion?
@jolness1
@jolness1 2 жыл бұрын
@@DigitalHeadShots for me, it is the canted clip and the ceramic lock interface. Opinions are sharply divided though
@kyleriley6027
@kyleriley6027 4 жыл бұрын
your videos have started to grow on me,,, I think your a mad man and have a ton of passion and I for one don't always have to agree but have realized most of the time I due...I went thru maybe 50 knives last year and in the end my "keepers" are pretty random. One knife I have not seen you mention and to me was Les Georges VECP, I like it so much I ordered a second the same day I bought the first, smoother then all of my Chris Reeves, Lock up is perfect as well as so easy to release and really comfortable, have you had one of handled one? Recently I sold most of my collection and only kept about 10 knives or I would have offered to send you one to review. Keep up the great work Nero!
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
I never had a vecp before. I always wanted the v3. I just never came across one when i had funds available. Seems like a really great knife tho.
@kyleriley6027
@kyleriley6027 4 жыл бұрын
@@neroknives1828 Yes the latest VECP are amazing, it comes feeling like and already broken in sebenza and lock up and everything it amazing. I work as a custom fabricator and exotic metal welder and have made parts for other campanies and les george is top notch.
@kerrykitterman4602
@kerrykitterman4602 4 жыл бұрын
Would like to see comparison between C. R 31. And inkosi. Kerry.
@robertdowell6966
@robertdowell6966 3 жыл бұрын
How good is the blade on he sebenza do you have to sharpen a lot i don’t know a lot about s35vn
@thewaterwarrior9817
@thewaterwarrior9817 2 жыл бұрын
do you feel the same way about the seb 31 in terms of increased ergos with micarta??
@davidmarshall7752
@davidmarshall7752 4 жыл бұрын
Good diagnostic exam. When I got my first Sebbie ~ a small Insingo ~ I sent it back due to some minor up & down play. Not terrible, but based on the CRK reputation and $375, I guess my expectations were too big.
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized, you've been following my channel since the beginning 👊
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
Someone commented on one of my videos from over a year ago. Right below his, there u where.
@davidmarshall7752
@davidmarshall7752 4 жыл бұрын
@@neroknives1828 I know the real deal when I see it.
@ironbound1984
@ironbound1984 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! Been going back n forth between Hinderer XM or Umnumzaan. I think I’ll have to get both 🤷🏼‍♂️...just wondering , you got pre workout in your system ? Sorry I had to ask lol ...keep Up the good work
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
Haha. Nope had off from the gym today. Caffeine pills today 😁
@wolfdna788
@wolfdna788 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got that exact same S&G
@dragonfire3102
@dragonfire3102 Жыл бұрын
Is that rubber around the thumb stud?
@jsagazio
@jsagazio 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a sebenza man myself. A large 31 to be precise. Looking for another large with on it laser engraved a giraffe. I think that would be cool, man.
@civicboi96
@civicboi96 Жыл бұрын
I've never had a problem with the sebenza thumbstuds. Once you feel for it, there's a comfortable way to do it.
@gmtmastertoo
@gmtmastertoo 4 жыл бұрын
@neroknives, hope you consider doing the inkosi in the future. I have both large 21 and the umnumzaan, but have yet to own an inkosi. not sure if I should get one or just wait for the 31.
@E97x
@E97x 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a crk collector. I own 26 including having early access to the 31. If I was only able to keep one knife I would take the small inkosi.
@gmtmastertoo
@gmtmastertoo 4 жыл бұрын
@@E97x I don't like smalls, I owned one for a short time before, I think it's perfect for girls.
@E97x
@E97x 4 жыл бұрын
Bad Karma1188 oh then definitely go for the large 31
@Barphammer
@Barphammer 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Nero, could you do a comparison between the Inkoski and the zaan?
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
I wish i had one to compare 😑. I'm working on adding more crk to the collection. When i pick up a inkosi ill definitely do a comparison
@MtnMac719
@MtnMac719 4 жыл бұрын
neroknives I’m still waiting on this review!
@mark.lizettegrant
@mark.lizettegrant 4 жыл бұрын
I only had enuff for the small inkosi but I really wanted a umnazan
@SuperSteelSteve
@SuperSteelSteve 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get your glass table thanks Steve
@firemedic5170
@firemedic5170 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! ❤️🔪
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
Where's a good place to get a wendy's burger Thanks
@cwrowe
@cwrowe 4 жыл бұрын
Good video
@xderiwx
@xderiwx 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really enjoyed it. I have a large 21 and I'm currently debating on picking up an Umnumzaan. Quick question for you. Is the hollow grind on the Umnumzaan the same as the Sebenza, or is it closer to the flatter style hollow grind of the Inkosi? Thanks!
@brokebikemtb4448
@brokebikemtb4448 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Reeves knives are so well designed and built that the chinese clones of his knives blow out 75 percent of production folders
@jsagazio
@jsagazio 3 жыл бұрын
Nah
@astrazenica7783
@astrazenica7783 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the Chinese Sebenza copies are progressing. Those clever little Chi-coms get better & better at stealing
@InGratitudeIam
@InGratitudeIam 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a giveaway if someone can guess correctly how many times you say "okay" in a video. Okay? :)))
@cwrowe
@cwrowe 4 жыл бұрын
Do you use your knifes a lot where you work? (Just curious)
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
At my day job not so much. But then after I'm generally working or doing some kind of construction project. That's when they really get used and i get an understanding of performance.
@e.r9111
@e.r9111 7 ай бұрын
What happened to your uploads? Miss your videos
@brandonmaples
@brandonmaples 4 жыл бұрын
Love my large sebenza 21 black micarta 👍🇺🇸
@thedivineprotectorofmangos9841
@thedivineprotectorofmangos9841 4 жыл бұрын
I just got mine yesterday, love it too!
@brandonmaples
@brandonmaples 4 жыл бұрын
@@thedivineprotectorofmangos9841 nice man I just got mine 3 days ago
@masonball5
@masonball5 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the one knife I’ve considered trading my Umnumzaan for.
@YF_UpperX
@YF_UpperX 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious what are the reasons for cutting up a lot of cardboard?
@jasonbyu75
@jasonbyu75 4 жыл бұрын
YuFeng new knives come in cardboard boxes.
@brokebikemtb4448
@brokebikemtb4448 4 жыл бұрын
It's used to determine edge retention....if something holds an edge at 100 cuts and something else doesnt ....it is likely one has a better quality steel or heat treat
@cwrowe
@cwrowe 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video....☑️☑️☑️☑️
@mattbakester
@mattbakester 4 жыл бұрын
How did you get that mat?
@_brianm
@_brianm 2 жыл бұрын
Order a Hinderer from DLT Trading. Or at least that’s how I got mine; it just showed up in the box with my XM18 Skinny.
@ogenmatic
@ogenmatic 4 жыл бұрын
6:37 0.09” is not less than 0.0625” (1/16th inch)
@seanbowie4511
@seanbowie4511 2 ай бұрын
Good for you. Wish more utubers would delete subpar videos. Keep up the good work!
@alisadigout5617
@alisadigout5617 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@irishsavage8715
@irishsavage8715 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Vinny, I’m about to buy my first CRK and I’m thinking either a 21 or a Zaan, you know me and how I prefer and need an HD Knife for my EDC Tasks, do you thing the Zaan would be a better option than the 21? I carry Striders, Emerson’s, Hinderers, Medford’s, etc....I’m worried the blade stock will be too thin, and my recent experience with my Hinderer in S35Vn in that it’s too brittle.
@phil8288
@phil8288 2 жыл бұрын
3:02 that scared the shit out of me
@dewetrobertson1752
@dewetrobertson1752 2 жыл бұрын
Umnaamzaan is the best by far
@vladimirkovacevic1656
@vladimirkovacevic1656 3 ай бұрын
umnumzaan is my favorrite
@2u263
@2u263 5 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 If you were poor and was going to buy your first knife, which would you buy?👍👍👍
@kyleriley6027
@kyleriley6027 4 жыл бұрын
For the random reader who can't afford or simply wont spend the money to get a Sebenza a really amazing knife that IMO feel like if Chris Reeves made a medium sized sebenza is Kizer T1. I personally don't like buying Chinese knives but can say the dam kizer T1 and Kizer guru are two of my favorite knives ever, I have owned more then two samples of each and hard use them daily and in a drawer of Chris Reeves,Hoback,Hinderer,Spyderco, can say my T1 and Guru get carried dam near more then everything. I think the T1 and new Hogue Ritter are two of the best knives at any price and for around $150 are so good it just a great time to be into knives. Oh and another Favorite the budget king Kabars- Bob Dozier Lock back,, It is so dam good and for $20 you can cut down a tree and it will keep slicing without braking a sweat. The End.
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
Kizer is one of the only companies i refuse to have on the channel. They started out as a company by copying custom makers designs, and until very recently just stopped. I think they stopped anyway.
@kyleriley6027
@kyleriley6027 4 жыл бұрын
@@neroknives1828 Kizer made a copy of what knife? they work with dam near half of the biggest names in the Industry and i've never once heard of them making clones?? I work and deal in the Precision Machine world and know how many times parts and builds don't always come from where they may have stamped on the box, but I again have never heard of Kizer doing such work myself of would have never purchased as money is not the reason for my purchase it was because the knives I named are amazing in every way and the build specs and materials are in line with any other top tier maker in the Industry. They build knives for others who can't afford to due all there work in house but I have never heard of them doing unlicensed work ever or I would have never used them, they are no different the Reate just another large Chinese company working with many top makers but they are upfront and put the makers name and again not one maker have I ever seen make a claim there design was a fake or they were not paid for there design. Not sure what company your thinking of but never heard of Reate or Kizer doing and clone knives as I don't support clones. The only reason I purchased a Kizer was because is was Matt Degnan work and a tribute to Matt Cucchiara his mentor and I can name 10 other makers they work hand in hand with. Maybe your thinking of something else?
@kyleriley6027
@kyleriley6027 4 жыл бұрын
I would have to see a thread with the owner or a maker making this claim I was not buying all these knives till about 2 years ago so anything possible as in China machine shops and makers actually do not take clowns as and insult, working in my field I've seen some crazy stuff and making a clown if done well was actually a sign of respect which of course in America we would never tolerate and why I said I don't have many thing marked Made In China unless its a very specific item. If anyone knows otherwise feel free to post a link as I'm told the ownder of Kizer is a very stand up guy and man with a good name in the community but anything is possible over there.(and no insult to anyone Chinese I know the culture is very tricky for an American to understand as one of my good friends is from China and what is standard business was just shocking to me.)
@jackdarippa8119
@jackdarippa8119 4 жыл бұрын
@@kyleriley6027 you can find used small sebenzas for under $300 all the time. Still a chunk of change but not bad at all for what your getting.
@dewetrobertson1752
@dewetrobertson1752 2 жыл бұрын
if you buy chris reeve to open boxes,you just as well can buy a cheap knife
@craze77
@craze77 Жыл бұрын
Some people appreciate the finer things in life mate, like why buy a sports car if you’re only gonna drive it in the streets? Coz it feels awesome and it’s pride of ownership 🤷🏻‍♂️
@spencermorse2926
@spencermorse2926 4 жыл бұрын
"this video will be no longer than 20 minutes!" *Video is 30 minutes long*
@InGratitudeIam
@InGratitudeIam 3 жыл бұрын
So, you're the clock police? You could hit the stop button or switch to a different video at any time. He even gave you a warning at 17:00 that he'd be running longer than intended. He was aware of the time and apparently you were not aware of what he said concerning the time.
@SharpPokeyThings
@SharpPokeyThings 2 жыл бұрын
Old video I know but first time watching and umm @6:28 .090 is way smaller than a 1/16"? Ummm 🤔🤣🤣 A 1/16 is about . 0625 give or take.
@camorakidd_edc
@camorakidd_edc 4 жыл бұрын
Oversized washers on the Sebenza? Yea on just one side. The umnumzaan has big washers on both sides.. I would love to see big fucking washers in the sebenza and the zaan. The same ones the inkosi has.. I don't get why they are not doing that.
@everydaybladesinc
@everydaybladesinc 2 жыл бұрын
The Zan Thumb stud is acceptable the sebenza Thumb stud is garbage. I can’t believe they have stuck with that same Thumb stud all this time and not improved it
@fritz9830
@fritz9830 4 жыл бұрын
And the winner is....INKOSI!!
@BloodRaven1011
@BloodRaven1011 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but hop on discord more you nerd. Edit: finished your "less than 20 minute video", and it has me even more excited for my 31 order to get completed!
@wpieter2459
@wpieter2459 4 жыл бұрын
DISCORD!!!!!!!!
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
If i spend anymore time on the discord. I'll be shooting videos from a box on the curb.
@civicboi96
@civicboi96 Жыл бұрын
Why cut cardboard with a nice pocket knife? Just seems so unnecessary, that's your own personal tool being abused on boxes. Grab a boxcutter when you're deleting boxes.
@doluncle2857
@doluncle2857 4 жыл бұрын
I need a drink...thumbs down🤣🤣🤣
@jcmussolini
@jcmussolini 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos but wayyyy to wordy. Your listeners already have a good bit of knife knowledge , I would assume. Too much. Sorry. Still enjoy the videos, I just can’t finish them. Too much repetition also.
@karlizen4990
@karlizen4990 4 жыл бұрын
two super soft heat-treated steel overpriced knives
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
Oh. I forget to mention, they're both 60 hrc. And the best 35vn on the market we've come across so far when it comes to edge retention. Crk s35vn beats most companies m390 on cardboard.
@neroknives1828
@neroknives1828 4 жыл бұрын
So no it's actually some of the hardest s35vn on the market, while being the most consistently heat treated s35vn we've come across so far. To hit the level of consistancy crk does, Is incredibly expensive compared to standard heat treats. I think it deserves some respect because of how few makers actually go the extra mile to give you such high quality steel.
@ReclusiveMountainMan
@ReclusiveMountainMan 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they (CRK) has upped HRC in recent years. Soft steel is no longer a valid argument.
@MrFreddyd3
@MrFreddyd3 4 жыл бұрын
Great reply. The CRK ignorance is astounding
@jkstdstang
@jkstdstang 4 жыл бұрын
Kar Lizen do you own any CRKs?
@patrickvanovermeeren4513
@patrickvanovermeeren4513 4 жыл бұрын
Good video !! Great comparison, thanks for sharing !!
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