Using a 15-year-old laptop in 2022

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Sebi's Random Tech

Sebi's Random Tech

Күн бұрын

Hello everyone! Back with another video, this time taking a look at the Lenovo ThinkPad T61, which this year turned 15 years old! Released in 2007, this laptop utilizes Core 2 Duo processors and was shipped at a time when Windows XP was still the norm, KZfaq was still in its infancy, and 2 GB of RAM was considered "more than enough". As someone who frequently uses older machines and has a soft spot for these older ThinkPads, can a laptop that is nearly old enough to drive a car still perform in the modern world? Was my choice to put a T61 motherboard into an older T60, make some upgrades, and use it as my daily machine worth it? Stay tuned to find out!
For those who are curious about the "FrankenPad" process including why people do it, check out my videos on the subject!
Part 1: • Building the Ultimate ...
Part 2: • Building the Ultimate ...
Part 3: • Unlocking the ThinkPad...
Also a slight correction at 1:40 in the video, the T61 did not have an IR sensor at all, what I thought was an IR port on the 4:3 model was just a knockout. Whoops. Thanks to user zoltan87 for pointing that out!
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:24 Physical tour/information
02:34 Specifications
03:26 Operating systems
04:15 Web browsing/video streaming
05:04 Productivity/video editing/gaming
06:41 Battery life and repairability
07:36 The verdict
09:02 Final thoughts
10:13 Outro

Пікірлер: 614
@xyz.anonymous
@xyz.anonymous Жыл бұрын
Aw yes comfy old ThinkPad vid
@Pokadex
@Pokadex Жыл бұрын
8GB of DDR2 memory? My condolences for your wallet.
@basrahsymbol5489
@basrahsymbol5489 Жыл бұрын
Yes maybe 100buck S
@gavinstarling8737
@gavinstarling8737 Жыл бұрын
I was looking to upgrade my HP 6730b. CPU upgrade super cheap but the DDR2 so expensive
@plvto9509
@plvto9509 Жыл бұрын
@@gavinstarling8737 fr, I gave up on an old pc cause of this
@dominoespizza1756
@dominoespizza1756 Жыл бұрын
I had like 6 sticks of coursair 4gb ddr2 laying around for years and now I’ve got no idea where they are
@erenaydin
@erenaydin 11 ай бұрын
they are kinda cheap in my country, i bought 2×2 kingston 800mhz kit for like 5 dollar brand new
@ethann_browne
@ethann_browne Жыл бұрын
Earlier this year, I replaced my 2008 MacBook with an X201. I have to say, the difference between Intel's Core 2 chipset and the first gen i series is night and day for many basic tasks. Unless you're a collector, definitely don't look older than anything Core i for basic tasks.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
I agree at this point. The very latest laptops with Core 2 processors and faster chips like the Core 2 Quad/Core 2 Extreme might still be usable, but it's just not worth the hassle and money of trying to upgrade everything unless you got the laptop for a good price or already had it.
@AM-mk3zc
@AM-mk3zc Жыл бұрын
i've just bought a thinkpad x200 on ebay for 49 euro
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
@@AM-mk3zc That's not a bad deal. It will probably be a little slow but the X200 is still a very nice machine.
@trandinhvietdung9357
@trandinhvietdung9357 Жыл бұрын
yeah, the i5-520M just wipe the floor compared to the fastest Core 2 Duo
@AM-mk3zc
@AM-mk3zc Жыл бұрын
@@SebisRandomTech with libreboot :P
@teleman07
@teleman07 Жыл бұрын
We had ThinkPads as old or even older than this in a factory I worked at. Electronics department was still using them actively... For all those years I remember not a single dead pixel or dysfunctional key on them. Even their mouse knob things were good. I was blown away.
@laserdiscbisque
@laserdiscbisque Жыл бұрын
I was 10 in 2007, and I remembered being awed by modern laptops at the time and wondering how computers could ever get any more advanced
@M1szS
@M1szS 2 ай бұрын
i was 0 in 2007, don't remember shit
@doctahjonez
@doctahjonez 2 ай бұрын
@@M1szS i was 2 in 2007 lol
@ParisFletcher
@ParisFletcher Ай бұрын
Nowadays, there is a laptop with literal water-cooling inside.
@M1szS
@M1szS Ай бұрын
@ParisFletcher tbh that's nothing advanced comparing to the electronics in it
@RanenPo
@RanenPo Жыл бұрын
You should do a state of the collection video with your ThinkPads, older Macbooks, keyboards, and desktops! I think it is somethig that your audience will find interesting.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Not much of a collection at the moment, I got rid of those MacBooks ages ago. The footage was previously unused from a scrapped video of mine. Glad I got to showcase it a little here! :)
@joemarisdwihariyadi497
@joemarisdwihariyadi497 Жыл бұрын
i know it aint 15 years old, but my t440p is STILL running strong until now, still uses it to do my daily work from home or out about, the only thing i ever did to the machine was upgraded it to the full HD panel and installed an SSD, other than its declining battery efficiency...it still runs like a champ. not to mention i have dropped it quite a few times through the years, man do i love thinkpads
@billoverson2263
@billoverson2263 Жыл бұрын
T440p also my daily driver - i7-4800MQ - 16GB - 1TB SSD. Sits in a dock hooked up to a 27" monitor, remote KB and mouse. Haven't noticed a huge difference to my T14 (G2) i5-1145G7.
@itstheweirdguy
@itstheweirdguy Жыл бұрын
I've worked on many a Lenovo thinkpad in the 2nd-5th gen Intel core range. Great machines. I have an x220 which is only a sandy bridge i5, but it has 8gb and a 120gb ssd, got it for free (recycled by customer) at work it's my service call laptop. Just had to order a new caddy so the ssd fits in right, whoever refurbished it before used tape. Great great laptop, I love how it's light up keyboard is an actual light next to the camera that flips open and shines on the keyboard, now that's "GOAT with the sauce" if I may say so myself.
@Pasi123
@Pasi123 Жыл бұрын
I also have a T440p as my main laptop, i7-4800MQ, 12GB RAM, GT 730M, 250GB SSD, 1080p panel. The only thing I've upgraded is the RAM and a dead battery, though someday I'm going to upgrade the SSD to a bigger one and max out the RAM to 16GB
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra Жыл бұрын
Well, we're talking at least 6 years newer laptop, close to 7. A long time in computing, and at that time stuff was still getting old faster than today (though not as much as in the 90s-early 2000s), so quite different animals. Buy yeah, Thinkpads are so great. Well, they should considering their original asking prices, but for some reason, there has been a steady supply of second hand units for years at excellent prices. The value is terrific.
@techno-sorcery9852
@techno-sorcery9852 Жыл бұрын
​@@BilisNegra With the exception of video games/rendering/virtual machines, the amount of processing power required for most tasks has seemingly plateaued over the past decade. My T530's i5 holds up just fine for 90% of what I need to do; for the other 10% (playing modern video games), I just use my desktop.
@klwthe3rd
@klwthe3rd Жыл бұрын
I own several T61's because of this channel. Sebi's videos made me fall in love with the older style T61 and T400 laptops many many years ago. I still have them all in their original IBM Thinkpad travel cases and i break them out occasionally to cycle the batteries so they don't go dead. After this video, i fired up my T61 with the upgraded T9300 Core 2 Duo CPU and i noticed for the first time that watching videos even on my Linux distro(Linux Mint Mate) seemed to studder quite a bit. Acouple years ago i never had that problem. Today's internet is just get too intensive for these older machines. The only way i can more power is to upgrade to the Core 2 Duo Extreme as outlined in Sebi's video. Otherwise they basically will have very limited use going forward. It really makes me sad to see these older Thinkpad become obsolete. I grew up on them and i loved their many unique features. What do the new Thinkpad still have?? A spill resistant keyboard?? That's it. All the classic features are gone. Hot swappable batteries- gone. Classic keyboard-gone. indicator lights for activity-gone. Latch to hold the top cover down-gone. Upgradable components-gone. dedicated volume buttons-gone. Lenovo is doing away with everything that made their laptops unique. There's nothing left to distinguish them from other laptops anymore. I do own some modern Thinkpads but to use them is NOT satisfying at all even if they are fast. I hate them.
@h.b.5577
@h.b.5577 Жыл бұрын
For youtube try using a front end site like piped, the browsing experience improvement compared to normal yt is immense on older machines.
@pdt4776
@pdt4776 Жыл бұрын
Watching on my T500 with 8GB ram. I will use it until it dies.
@JohnWilson-hb5qc
@JohnWilson-hb5qc Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Liking some of the track shots and “glory shots” of the laptops
@pthomasgarcia
@pthomasgarcia Жыл бұрын
I love my ThinkPad T61s (I’ve three of them 😅) and they get regular usage. I upgraded the RAM to 8gb and run Ubuntu and a couple other Linux distros. Aside from regular www and word processor use, I mainly use it to program in Python and for emulation. Nothing graphically intensive. However, on my main T61, it can overheat, which is the one problem I typically have with them. Especially, ones that ship with Nvida graphics
@ndositwechizimbi7299
@ndositwechizimbi7299 Жыл бұрын
My ThinkPad T430s is 10 years old now... it is still solid. I have loved the unit due to its ease to service and upgrade. It has an i7 3520M CPU with 8GB RAM. Upgrades came after six years of usage, replacing the HDD and Optical Drive for two SSDs: a 500GB for Windows 10 and 250GB for Ubuntu Linux.
@mikmoomamimocki
@mikmoomamimocki Жыл бұрын
Nice to see your channel back!
@TheMirzaProduction
@TheMirzaProduction Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you finally uploaded a video. Kind of my favorite KZfaqr out there...
@Norrecito
@Norrecito Жыл бұрын
Since you made me a Thinkpad fan like 2 years ago, I'm always looking for them on flee markets and picked up quite a few for very cheap. (T2x-T6x. Some X series models and even found a X60 tablet) If you are into Windows 9x/XP era retro gaming (like I do), old Thinkpads can be perfect. Sometimes I'm surprised by the screen some old models use. A few months ago, I've managed to get my hands on a R50p. I has a 15" 1600x1200 IPS display. Never seen icons this small in Windows XP before :)
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
I don't think the R50p is a very common model, you scored a good catch there! I believe that model was at one point available with an even higher resolution 2048x1536 panel. That must have been insane in 2005.
@Norrecito
@Norrecito Жыл бұрын
@@SebisRandomTech Yep and according to the Thinkpad Wiki, all R50p models came with an IPS screen. 1600x1200 was the inferior one :)
@techno-sorcery9852
@techno-sorcery9852 Жыл бұрын
The electronics swap meet in my area is the perfect place to get old laptops; both my $15 X220i and $20 T530 came from there, and I've seen plenty of other -20 and -30 series machines going for under $30.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
@@techno-sorcery9852 Sounds like a great place to get stuff like that!
@divinehatred6021
@divinehatred6021 Жыл бұрын
@@SebisRandomTech it is more insane now if you think about it, its above 1440p even? fricking wild.
@dordly
@dordly Жыл бұрын
I have a stock X200 that I still use to this day and it's perfect. I obviously don't do anything graphically intensive on it, but for programming, home network/server maintenance, and simply having a dedicated system for user security and privacy for business and travel I really don't need or want any other laptop. I run a Debian-based Linux distro so I have more control and resources and the only part I've had to replace after all these years was the cooling fan and thanks to the laptop's design it wasn't a difficult task despite having to remove essentially everything else to get to it. It's a shame IBM aren't still making computers because everything they made was the closest thing to perfection any manufacturer will ever get. The market would benefit from their simple but highly efficient and modular designs and rock solid hardware that's stood the test of time.
@piedro2688
@piedro2688 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video, T61 is a beautiful machine. I personally bought myself a used T450 a few months ago and it's awesome! It's upgraded to 16GB of RAM and 500GB SSD, so it's running quite smoothly. The battery life is decent too, with light use i can get to around 4 hours with no problems. I would never think about getting a thinkpad if i hadn't watched an older video of yours, where you recommend an older thinkpad as a great budget laptop, so thank you very much!
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help steer you in the direction of ThinkPads! Thanks for watching!
@themegaman91965
@themegaman91965 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! One of the coolest ones I've seen in a long time! I forgot that IBM even still made their series of Thinkpads in 2006, as I thought that Lenovo had already occupied those by then.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The whole IBM versus Lenovo branding on ThinkPads is kind of interesting, technically all ThinkPads made since early 2005 are Lenovo products, as it was in late 2004 that Lenovo acquired IBM's PC division. However, as part of an agreement made during this acquisition ThinkPads were still branded as IBM products for a while, and some in the T60/61 era were jointly branded as IBM/Lenovo ThinkPads. Some early T60's like the one I used for my FrankenPad project have no Lenovo branding at all (save for a very small "Manufactured for Lenovo" sticker on the bottom cover), while later T60's and T61's lack any IBM branding. By the time the T400/500 and X200 came out in 2008, Lenovo dropped all mention of the IBM name. Additionally, some consider the T60/61 models to still be IBM products as their development began while still under IBM, and the same engineers responsible for the design of older models worked on the T60/61. It's all fascinating to go down a rabbit hole into and just fuels the age-old debate of what the last true IBM ThinkPad was. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and learned something!
@tlarson91119
@tlarson91119 Жыл бұрын
I've been using an old Dell Latitude 6400 (2008 model) for longer than I can remember. I replaced the old drive with an SSD some time ago and have been using Lubuntu on it for maybe 8 years now. I mainly use it as a bed laptop to watch videos on and it's great so far.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a good "nightstand laptop"! Currently typing from my T430 in bed as we speak, although I still take mine out and about.
@wnewbury4
@wnewbury4 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the good advice. My inexpensive x220 is performing very well. Doing everything I want.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
The X220/230 are rock solid models. Glad yours is doing well!
@JohnDoe-wi7eb
@JohnDoe-wi7eb Жыл бұрын
I love your content I'm glad your back. FYI Libreboot in 2023 is VERY important!
@xoanaraujo02
@xoanaraujo02 Жыл бұрын
I recently discovered your channel and Im enjoying every single one of your videos :))
@rocksalts
@rocksalts Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a new vid. Awesome.
@Someone-wall
@Someone-wall Жыл бұрын
8:30 HAHAHA you fail to take into account the sheer power of STUBBORNNESS! I have been using a ThinkPad t43 from 2005 as my main laptop for nearly a year, and through many trials and tribulations I am able to maintain productivity! Nothing can stop me and my windows xp running, loud as hell, ThinkPad t43!
@MegaManNeo
@MegaManNeo Жыл бұрын
Talking about the retro gaming part, that is what I actually did with my old X60t. Lenovo luckily still keeps everything on their website and using my very first SSD with just 64G storage space is plenty for XP and pretty much all games I played back in the day, plus music and some tools if I so desire. If nothing goes, I do it like the old man who wrote Game of Thrones as typing on these older ThinkPads is a pleasure.
@rocketassisi
@rocketassisi 11 ай бұрын
I've just spent most of the day on a Thinkpad x61 reading and replying emails, surfing the web to gather information, using whatsapp web to communicate with my banker across the globe, filling, printing and scanning forms, transferring funds, uplifting and placing fixed deposits at various banking websites, , organizing finances and keeping accounting notes on TreeDBNotes. Right now on my x61, I am reading and making web-clippings of the day's corporate news with an old version of Evernote (where web-clipping was possible without a paid subscription). In front of me over at the left side, I have a live telecast of a Italian Open tennis match playing on my Thinkpad x201 and over at the right side (also in front of me), I had your video playing on my Thinkpad x200 (which is still on a mechanical HDD). All my old machines have been converted to SSD except the x200. All machines are running Windows 10. Now who says old Thinkpads running Windows 10 are unusable in 2023? I have a fairly new Thinkpad L14 Gen 2 gathering dust at a corner.
@jasonwilliam2125
@jasonwilliam2125 Жыл бұрын
2 vids in and im subbed. Great looking channel.
@somecoolthingsrighthere5038
@somecoolthingsrighthere5038 Жыл бұрын
Amazing tutorial buddy!
@Bunstonious
@Bunstonious 2 ай бұрын
Looking at that older Thinkpad, man I love the chassis. Timeless!
@SelfSufficientZ
@SelfSufficientZ Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back Sebi! I love your videos! I have a Thinkpad T480 that is my dedicated TV machine and it runs amazing and was only 250 bucks :D
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! That's a pretty interesting use for the T480, how do you have it set up?
@SelfSufficientZ
@SelfSufficientZ Жыл бұрын
@@SebisRandomTech Hey Sebi! I just use the HDMI out and a Logitech pebble mouse and K380 keyboard. It works surprisingly great for browsing the web and KZfaq. Especially with those wireless accessories 🙂 Thanks for asking!
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
@@SelfSufficientZ That's a pretty cool way to use it, I like seeing hardware repurposed in interesting ways like that.
@gmitchellfamily
@gmitchellfamily Жыл бұрын
My previous workplace furnished me with an (at the time) 3-year-old refurbished T410. I didn't complain, the price was right, I was able to consolidate SEVERAL machines into it, and it was an absolute tank. The laptop had originally shipped with XP, and still had the XP license sticker on it. But during the refurb process, it gained a Windows 7 license for refurbished computers. Windows 7 was upgradeable to Windows 10, so once I got tired of fighting with Linux on it, you bet that's what I put on that laptop. I used it for about six years as a daily driver, and it was a champ. I gave it to my neighbor and he continues to use it to this day, though a driver issue prevented it from updating past 1909. So I think that T410 was the only machine I'll ever lay hands on that ran Windows XP AND Windows 10 perfectly. And yes I did try XP on it at one point. All the drivers are available from Lenovo still, and it ran flawlessly. Made a decent retro-XP-gaming machine with its Quadro GPU!
@jovaraszigmantas
@jovaraszigmantas Жыл бұрын
He is alive, thinkpads are back on top. Great vid.
@Aeglos15
@Aeglos15 Жыл бұрын
Another Sebi video! So pumped.
@mattbosley3531
@mattbosley3531 Жыл бұрын
I have a Dell Inspiron 9400 which I bought in 2006 still in perfect condition. It's got a Core Duo 32 bit processor running Windows 10 32 bit. I did upgrade it from a hard drive to a SATA SSD many years ago, and it has two USB 3.0 ports in a 54mm ExpressCard. It has GeForce Go 7800 graphics. It's got a 17" FHD screen. I've replaced the battery twice in 16 years.
@kamalmahmoud2385
@kamalmahmoud2385 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for upload ♥️
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@keeper__88_
@keeper__88_ Жыл бұрын
I´m working in the upgrade of an old Dell D620 (2008), lovely device. Works fairly good with Linux and a mechanical hard drive. Not a gaming machine but usable for basic taks. Hopefully will work better with and SSD and a faster Core 2 Duo.
@LloydLynx
@LloydLynx Жыл бұрын
I use one with a T7200 and Samsung 860 EVO and I love it. I'm hoping to put a D630 board in it for even more speed and power. The Latitude D-series are the best laptops ever made IMO.
@bencemervay
@bencemervay Жыл бұрын
A new Sebi's Random Tech video! OMG! Finally!
@feggis
@feggis Жыл бұрын
I'm still using a T60 from time to time. It's running Windows 7 and is virtualizing xp for some old programs. It has the high capacity battyery and even the battery still works. The disk + ram was upgraded back in the days. One of the best computers I've ever owned.
@sehofin
@sehofin Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I'm still using my X200 with Linux Manjaro and I still use it weekly (mainly for JavaScript coding)! The keyboard is perfect on these older Lenovos.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
The keyboards on these late IBM/early Lenovo ThinkPads are truly spectacular. That was probably my favorite part about filming this video, getting to type on the old keyboard. My T430's is still fantastic and even my X1 Nano still has a nice keyboard, but I think the T60/61's is ever so slightly better than any of those.
@ihatetheantichristuwu
@ihatetheantichristuwu Жыл бұрын
nice video,very comfy indeed!~ i m using t400 now, it is the best machine i ever had. it even does funny beeping sound on startup. will try to max it out with quad core, ultrabay battery, 8gb ram and maybe 2nd wlan card. the only downside is that t400 is really a thicc boi, but still best budget thinkpad in my country. somehow x-type models became so pricy that you can buy two t-models for price of x one of the same generation :c
@carnelianknight5713
@carnelianknight5713 Жыл бұрын
Very impressed with the performance of a 2007 laptop even if it's maxxed out. Think I'll go with an X201 as a linux entertainment center as these laptops look amazing and charmingly old. Might even get a trackpoint only palmrest lol. Depends on supply chain and the availability of different units. These older machines are disappearing... But as always thank you sebi this was one of my favorite videos you've made thus far. Takes me back to your old R series thinkpad video. It's so nice to have content about these amazing machines.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! As always thanks for watching, and I'm amazed you even remember my R series video as that was well before I was known for this sort of stuff. Unfortunately that machine succumbed to a motherboard failure a few years ago, but it will always have a place as my first ThinkPad.
@carnelianknight5713
@carnelianknight5713 Жыл бұрын
@@SebisRandomTech RIP R52. Forever in our hearts.
@anirbanpatra3017
@anirbanpatra3017 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I have Lenovo G580 with no upgrades How do I know what is the max upgrade possible for the laptop? Plz guide me.
@anirbanpatra3017
@anirbanpatra3017 Жыл бұрын
@@SebisRandomTech amazing video.but i would like to know how did you learn to do all these
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
@@anirbanpatra3017 Google is your friend. For a bit more detail look on Reddit, Lenovo's spec sheet for your model (they usually call it the psref document, so look up "Lenovo G580 psref" to find the highest supported upgrades for that model).
@guytech7310
@guytech7310 Жыл бұрын
Still using my TP W520 - 2013 vintage. I used it as my primary laptop until about 2019. I upgraded it to a P51. The only issue I am running into is the keyboard, I worn dimples into the keys after using it for nearly a decade. Before that I had a T60 which I think I got in late 2005 or early 2006. I replaced it for a better processor that supported virtualization.
@carlos2004
@carlos2004 Жыл бұрын
this is pretty much like the used x220 i bought around 5 or 6 years ago. it came with an i5 2540m, 200gig hdd, and 4gb ram. after a few additions, it is now running a new battery, win10, 6gb ram, 128gb msata ssd (decided to take out the extra hdd), and also replaced the screen once after it broke. the "right" key is now malfunctioning, and i might replace the keyboard later, but i just stopped pressing it, so not a real problem. as an extra portable pc, it has served me well. anything i don't really trust gets downloaded/opened on it. was my main when my actual main pc was getting upgraded for about a week, and a couple of months i was away from home. it also was a school laptop for a niece for some months when the pandemic started. it can emulate the retro systems and can run very old or indie pc games. and it can run everything on a browser just fine. while it doesn't get that much actual use, it has been useful throughout the years. i'm thinking about adding usb charging since with usb pd, it can now provide the required 95 watts, but for now, the x220 is still going and it seems it should be fine for such for another few years.
@VelidAgovic
@VelidAgovic Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I am also using t60, it is wonderful
@Brave-Octopus
@Brave-Octopus Жыл бұрын
Have a IBM laptop from 2004. Put AntiX 19 on it and was able to handle web surfing and basic tasks well. But thats mostly it.
@ThePuuFa
@ThePuuFa Жыл бұрын
My wife still uses a X61s from 2007 with a friggin 1.6GHz Core 2 duo LV as her only computer and she's still happy with it :) She thinks it's really cute. It's running Linux Mint Xfce on an old 128GB SSD and the performance really is surprisingly good for what it is. It's still a very usable machine for light internet browsing and office stuffs like printing, scanning and word processing. Only 480p KZfaq videos are perfectly smooth but the 12" 4:3 screen is so tiny that the lower resolution doesn't actually look too bad imho.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
I was originally going to use an X60s for this video, but it was having motherboard issues so I wasn't able to use it. They're really nice little laptops!
@yanni6556
@yanni6556 Жыл бұрын
T61 were a very sought after thinkpad when released. They allowed a lot of multitasking
@dohuynhduc4699
@dohuynhduc4699 Жыл бұрын
What a shock.....I got it since 2008 and still keep it till today Its working pretty well.
@MrFoxygang
@MrFoxygang Жыл бұрын
Cool video your views on a thinkpads are always great
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
@1teamboy
@1teamboy Жыл бұрын
Just bought one myself 2 months ago! Love thinkpads with all my heart
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Agreed, ever since I got my first as a hand-me-down (an R51) I was hooked.
@1teamboy
@1teamboy Жыл бұрын
@@SebisRandomTech that’s awesome. Pretty insane to see old models of Lenovos sold out completely on retail EVERYWHERE you look (Best Buy etc.) but going for hundreds on eBay. Lenovo is having an underground renaissance
@hariranormal5584
@hariranormal5584 Жыл бұрын
I love those LED status lights. I remember them back in 2010 era from my dad's work laptop.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
They're cool and actually useful in some situations. For me it's a handy way to tell if the drive is actually working or if the system is responsive or not - especially when troubleshooting it's a small but handy feature.
@Ashkimbo
@Ashkimbo Жыл бұрын
would love to see a video on the Thinkpad Advanced Docking Station. I had one a few years back but never got much use out of it so it went to another home!
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
I'd like to make a video about it eventually. I obviously have one but am still trying to figure out how I'd like to go about doing a video on it.
@Real_IDKPro
@Real_IDKPro Жыл бұрын
Your back!
@MatteoPascolini
@MatteoPascolini Жыл бұрын
these are good if you want to have an oldschool Unreal tournament lan party, HW like this is great for that!!
@coegj
@coegj Жыл бұрын
Still using an upgraded w530 and my backup is a sweet t530, I like the 15 inch thinkpads without the designated number pads, all the 2014's and up have them. As soon as I find out that the Frameworks laptop plays nice with Linux/Ubuntu I will have one of those, right now they still have hiccups. Might move on to the t480 cause I like the two battery system and will have decades left to mess with my favorite MX Linux. Missed seeing your videos, take care.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
The X1 Extreme and the P1 offer 15 (and on the newest versions 16) inch displays without a separate number pad, so that could be something to consider for an upgrade when your W530 finally dies (if it ever does!). I'd like to check out the Framework machines but like you said, they still have their hiccups that need to be worked out and the lack of a pointing stick is a dealbreaker for me. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!
@seanholmes8290
@seanholmes8290 8 ай бұрын
I have a t61 and t61p. One has windows Xp and the other has windows 7. I keep them around for old software, they have good windows 98 compatibility. I have a docking station with a gpu as well. Ive also got a t440p, a p71 and a yoga 390.
@LinuxLoader1287
@LinuxLoader1287 3 ай бұрын
Ive gotta say for a 15 year old thinkpad its in pretty good condition you've looked after it 👍 nice video
@tdaonp
@tdaonp Жыл бұрын
I still use my T60 (Lenovo/IBM) as my daily driver. Only upgrade is a new battery and an SSD. It runs Manjaro (Linux). These things are built like tanks and last forever. For my use case it works like a charm. Even though I bought later era ThinkPads for other people, recognising that not everyone's use case (and patience) is the same. ;)
@paturro
@paturro Жыл бұрын
My X200 still working as the first day.
@let_me_explain8572
@let_me_explain8572 Жыл бұрын
I'm still using ThinkPad Yoga S1 from 2013, mainly because it has a touchscreen and comes with a stylus. At one point I was considering to replace it since SSD upgrade didn't do it any good, but then I replaced cheap cacheless A-Data SSD with a beastly Samsung 860 Pro (top of the line SATA III drive on the market) and things got way better. I also installed Windows 11 and the laptop actually runs it better than my other not-so-old IdeaPad.
@ashleybishton742
@ashleybishton742 Жыл бұрын
i love the thinkpads. they are great machines. i love my x240. beast of a machine.
@pagofr
@pagofr Жыл бұрын
For many years i have daily driven an T-60 and even used Win10 on it (even if the loading time were horrendous). I lately gave my T-60 a new life with WinXP for retro gaming.
@JW-7
@JW-7 Жыл бұрын
Masterpiece !!!
@therobb5738
@therobb5738 Жыл бұрын
Watching this on a Dell Latitude E5500, Core2Duo t9550, 4 gigs of ram, slow spinny HDD, and running Windows 11 is no problem for this machine. I can watch KZfaq with no buffering problems, this old thing has amazed me. Very solid old machine, and everything works, minus a Bluetooth driver that I'm not too worried about. I'd say your video is pretty well spot-on.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Those older Latitudes, like ThinkPads from the era, are built like tanks and really easy to upgrade. I'd like to take more of a look at them sometime in the future. Thanks for watching!
@alcatraz6275
@alcatraz6275 Жыл бұрын
I had 1 of those back in 2010 used to play red alert 2
@elektron2kim666
@elektron2kim666 Жыл бұрын
I don't expect more than a museum level experience in the T/X-60/61 pile I decided to buy/repair.
@johncate9541
@johncate9541 Жыл бұрын
2009 Dell Inspiron 1545 here, maxed out to the C2D T9900, an SSD, a 1TB HDD in the optical drive slot, and an ExpressCard USB3 card in that slot. This is the model with the ATi dGPU, which helps some, and I run PCLinuxOS. This can go up to 900p streaming video just fine, which matches the screen it has. I'll hate it when this old laptop can't do the job anymore, but so far, so good.
@zzz-cb3xe
@zzz-cb3xe 8 ай бұрын
Very high quality laptop
@nerd2544
@nerd2544 Жыл бұрын
holy shit i found this vid through reddit, didn't know you posted there (though now that i think about it why did the thought never cross my mind lol)
@davidnotonstinnett
@davidnotonstinnett Жыл бұрын
I love old Thinkpads. T430 to me is the best option for most people. Plenty of room for upgrades (up to an i7-3840QM, 16GB of Ram, SSD upgrades both internal and via the hot swappable slot that stock has the DVD drive), display upgrade, can install the T420 keyboard and a whole world of options via the express port, including some GPU options. If you can find a model with the GPU then you are set. Put a good Linux distribution on there or even hackintosh it. Such a great little project PC) I have mine as a hackintosh but plan I switch it back to Linux now that I have a 2015 MacBook Pro. The thinkpad can’t run Ventura as of now, and I’ve replaced the utility I was getting from Mac OS, the ecosystem integration, so I should try to find some use for it, probably running my media. But that kicks the Mac Mini out of its job….so idk lol
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
I'd like to eventually Hackintosh my T430, I have a MacOS-compatible wireless card standing by and just need to install 1vyrain before I'll be ready to go. Future video project maybe...? I agree with you, the xx30 series is the best blend of classic and modern. Old enough to still have that classic IBM-inspired aesthetic and design, new enough to still be relevant. They're all very solid machines.
@alvin612
@alvin612 Жыл бұрын
Very comfy video indeed! I still have my t60 from 2006. For a while it was connected to an external mouse, keyboard, and monitor for my folks, so when they gave it back to me, the keyboard and screen is very well preserved. I since gave it t7200, maxed out to 3GB ram, and an SSD. With a lightweight Linux distro with a window manager, it plays 1080p KZfaq just fine. That's about the most taxing in my casual use case for this good old machine. I really like the 1400*1050 screen, so I may just throw gnome and KDE on it, just to enjoy the UI for a bit haha. Alternatively, get XP back on and install some retro games. Either way, it's going to be a comfy geeky project. Haha. Back to my point...good video as always, Sebi!
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
I love the 4:3 display on these models, the FlexView display in mine looks absolutely gorgeous. I'm sure I could squeeze another year or two out of it if I used a lightweight Linux distro, but it just wouldn't be worth it since I have much more capable models like the T430 at my disposal. Even after these machines are too obsolete for everyday use they will still get some love for long typing sessions and retro gaming. Older standard definition TV shows and movies that fill the whole screen also look fantastic on this thing.
@terrydaktyllus1320
@terrydaktyllus1320 Жыл бұрын
@@SebisRandomTech I have a T60 with a 4:3 display that sits on my workbench and is perfect just for displaying PDFs of manuals and electronics spec sheets.
@superlativeb
@superlativeb Жыл бұрын
using old tech for YTers - super sweet epic video man , can it run Cyrsis???!?! using old tech for everyone else - just booting up their main pc to watch a few videos and get ready for bed
@AxeZie
@AxeZie Жыл бұрын
I started watching you for ThinkPad content
@grzegorzzazirski4620
@grzegorzzazirski4620 Жыл бұрын
My cousin still has lenovo t400 which is used for web browsing, movies and school. Only upgrade i made with it was ssd drive :)
@LuigiCotocea
@LuigiCotocea Жыл бұрын
I had a toshiba laptop i used to play Need for Speed Underground 2 or Euro Truck Simulator 2. Ocasionally the screen would invert at random upside down... It was around 20010-2014 and still works nowdays 12 years later
@iliketurtles50000
@iliketurtles50000 Жыл бұрын
I have a dell latitude e5500. I planned on doing the same thing as you and transplanting another motherboard into it to get more than 4gb of ram and a better cpu. Don't know what motherboard I could use but I'll find one eventually
@jonfroin
@jonfroin Жыл бұрын
My T61p Core 2 T9300 / Nvidia Quadro FX 570M / 8Gb / 15.4" Widescreen / W10 still in daily use here!
@MartinLasTerrenas
@MartinLasTerrenas Жыл бұрын
In my home, we have 2 X230 (1 for me and 1 for my wife), main workhorse, we do everything with them. I also have a T430 as my 2nd work PC. And my hobby laptop is my X201 running Kubuntu. Works just fine (for work, we stay on Win10)
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Solid lineup of laptops you have there! Typing this from a T430 as we speak! ;)
@randomraven2519
@randomraven2519 Жыл бұрын
The T60 is a really good laptop in my opinion. Even though I have a powerful desktop and a laptop I still actually find myself using it pretty often for writing and other lightweight tasks.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
I love the form factor of the ThinkPads from that era, hence why I did the FrankenPad upgrade to have a newer T61 motherboard in one!
@jozsiolah1435
@jozsiolah1435 Жыл бұрын
Diablo 2 keys for the quests, are actually keys for hardware locked in computers and laptops. By unlocking the chests, you unlock the batteries, the power saving functions. The cells heating up, need more keys in the game to enable them heating up equally. An inverter exists in the batteries, similar to the power banks. To enable all these, gameplay is needed on battery, finding the chests, and the laptop is set to power saving mode. Then, you can hibernate at 1%. To enable performance mode, discharge the battery in BIOS, reaching 47 minutes. Only each 11th discharge moves up the time in BIOS. The other discharges should be in Windows.
@GordonFreemanC13
@GordonFreemanC13 Жыл бұрын
I got an used T61 with 4GB dual channel RAM and 250GB HDD, X3100 integrated graphics and Vista HB more than 10 years ago. I use it daily and rarely got problems with it. It is the most reliable laptop I've ever had. Sure it does get a bit hot nowadays ( but not that much up to 70C) on Windows 10 browsing the internet, watching youtube and such usual activities. Simply, I love this machine, and its unmatched keyboard, for typing this is godsent. It can run older games like Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow, Far Cry 1, Doom3 even with its integrated graphics. Original battery lasts more than an hour browsing the internet, and 2 hours on standby. What can you ask more from this nice little friendly machine?
@emdotrod
@emdotrod Жыл бұрын
"Many newer games I tried to run just crashed on startup" *footage of trying to start Crash Bandicoot game* Surely this isn't a coincidence
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised nobody else caught that ;)
@Rusikulya
@Rusikulya 23 күн бұрын
I just restored my R61 of 2008. Installed Linux mint, upgraded the RAM from 2 GB to 4 GB, replaced the HDD as it was non responsive. I have not installed SSD and kept the original motherboard. Its works well for all basic tasks and even runs KZfaq well
@apex0824
@apex0824 Жыл бұрын
I still use my early 2011 MacBook Pro. I use it as much as I use the M1 Mac Mini in my office. Still works great for everyday use which for me consists of web browsing, streaming, light word processing, FaceTime and discord. Granted, I've done some upgrades to it. I've replaced the HDD with a SSD, I also replaced the Bluetooth 2.0 chip for a 4.0 chip so that modern devices would be supported and upgraded the RAM from 4GB to 16GB. I believe the stock CPU is a 2.3Ghz Core i7.
@gaucovyaero
@gaucovyaero Жыл бұрын
My main PC broke this year (ASUS mobo blew up) and I needed a PC, so I grabbed my father's old ThinkPad R61 with a T8100, 3GB RAM and a 320GB HDD. Installed Manjaro Xfce onto it and voila, I had a PC to use :D Minecraft 1.19 w/ OptiFine with some shader patches ran at 100fps at 448x252 resolution, CS 1.6 ran at 100fps too, at 640x480 resolution. Honestly, I was pretty surprised about that kinda of performance on the Intel GMA X3100 graphics, pretty cool to see how these old thinkpads hold up nowadays xD
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Even if it isn't buttery smooth with some modern tasks, it really is neat that machines that are over 15 years old are still remotely usable in the modern world. Glad the R61 could keep up with your computing needs!
@gaucovyaero
@gaucovyaero Жыл бұрын
@@SebisRandomTech yep, the laptop is still in very good shape physically and I never had to replace any hinges or such, these old thinkpads are really sustainable :D
@rocknroll6760
@rocknroll6760 Ай бұрын
watching this vid from my t61p which works still good for me even in 2024 full hd youtube works with no problem, microsoft office is just perfect with that keyboard, some light 2010 era gaming also more than enough for me))
@andljoy
@andljoy Жыл бұрын
Older thinkpads are very useful for people who use mainly text based apps on linux without a desktop environment and running something like DWM. I have a much more modern T450 with an upgraded screen when i use a laptop outside of work but i still have my trusty x61s upgraded to the max with a new old stock US keyboard ( i am in the UK but prefer US layout). Honestly when not on chrome/firefox i cannot tell the difference and the x61s boots faster with the same custom arch linux + larbs install i have on it.
@terrydaktyllus1320
@terrydaktyllus1320 Жыл бұрын
I've used Gentoo Linux since 2003 so I entirely agree with you about using optimised "roll your own" Linux builds to get the "best bang for your buck" out of old Thinkpads.
@_-_--_
@_-_--_ Жыл бұрын
great video
@No_auto_murk7220
@No_auto_murk7220 Жыл бұрын
Hey! so i have a t470 and it was a work pc and i am going to get a new ssd plug and play so i dont have to load any data just plug it in and go, no bios password, so, will that fix the computers work problems? thanks!
@goldibollocks
@goldibollocks Жыл бұрын
Every time I hear "Middleton BIOS", I imagine Kate sitting in Windsor castle, hacking away on an old ThinkPad while William is away at some posh event. 😅
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@KwanLowe
@KwanLowe Жыл бұрын
This was a great watch. Old(er) hardware is so much more fun. I'm not running anything quite 15 years old, but I recently picked up 4 HP G2 systems. With shipping, 4 units set me back $120. Add another $120 for additional memory and storage (in addition to those sitting in a junk drawer), I had 3 new to me servers and a decent desktop (on which I'm typing this). It was so much fun tweaking the kernel to eke out as much performance as I could, tuning drivers for performance, and other configs to make it feel as good as a low-end modern PC. By this I mean that KZfaq plays at full screen, there's no lag when loading apps, and for day to days browsing and work in the terminal, it feels no different than the modern workstation in the next room. And maybe it even feels better. There's no buyer's remorse as I had with a recent Dell XPS 15 purchase and TBH it's like I stole it from the seller based on how useful it is to me.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
The T60/61 are probably among my favorite models to actually *use.* The keyboards feel great and the palmrest feels very ergonomic. Same goes for the T420/430 and their 12" counterparts. My newer X1 Nano is nice and I like using it, but it just doesn't feel the same.
@KwanLowe
@KwanLowe Жыл бұрын
@@SebisRandomTech Looking forward to more videos about those T60s. I picked up a T440P, replaced the screen with a 1920x1080 panel and it's been a workhorse.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
@@KwanLowe The T440p has a few design choices I don't care for, but it is certainly one of the easiest models to upgrade/repair. Just two screws to remove the bottom cover and then you have access to almost everything. It's really a good "beginner's ThinkPad".
@barebarekun161
@barebarekun161 Жыл бұрын
I still use my 15 year old Sony Vaio FW for mostly CD and Blu ray ripping the built in disc drive on this were a luxury and quite a unit. With its Core2Duo 4 GB of RAM and ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470. Its still doing fine I can even get it to run PPSSPP emulator and run certain PSP game like Daxter up to 3x resolution with FXAA on at mostly stable 30 fps. Not bad for an old timer still kicking and useful for my music and movie archiving purpose. I'd say it have better build quality than many of today's comparable work and entertainment laptop I mean the hinge doesn't creak or squeak at all after 15 years where my latest gaming laptop did a little right out of the box.
@lundsweden
@lundsweden Жыл бұрын
I had one of these around 2011, I thought they were old (and slow) back then!
@primarygavr
@primarygavr Жыл бұрын
I still use a 2008 Dell Insipiron laptop running Windows 7, I tried using Windows 10 but it slows a little bit the pc. Everyday tasks such as (Web browsing, microsoft office and media playback) are more than fine; however it is bulky and heavy, not that great carrying in a bag.
@JessicaFEREM
@JessicaFEREM 28 күн бұрын
I personally think the last 10 years was a massive hardware plateau. my 10 year old 6700 in my desktop is perfectly capable of browsing the modern web and nearly everything you could want, including running cyberpunk, though I did get a 3050.
@frankolwenda5128
@frankolwenda5128 Жыл бұрын
I had a T61 between 2010 and 2015. It was a "gift" rather, a discarded laptop from my sister's work place and it served me pretty well. i'm sure i would still have had it if it weren't stolen!
@horashio1593
@horashio1593 Жыл бұрын
Bought a x230 7 days ago! Was feeling down as my dell latitude d620 had started to become unusable. So went onto ebay and took a look around. Bidded on a laptop and lost. Found the x230 and bidded and won! Did not know what I had gotten myself into as I wasn't familiar with the ThinkPad series! After buying it I read up on it as I only had a few minutes to bid when I stumbled upon it haha. I was delighted to find such good things about ThinkPads and the x230. I'm very much into technology. Programming, building pcs etc but I had never known much about the infamous ThinkPads! Anyways cut to the chase I received it 2 days ago and it's been a delight. Truly awesome. Light, powerful and good looking. Great for college. I mainly do programming and work so I don't need a super computer! I'm going to dual boot it with Linux so I have bought a 256GB msata SSD to put in the laptop so I can keep windows and Linux on separate drives. Anyways thanks a bunch! Binge watched nearly all of your videos over the past week :D
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
The X230 is such a solid model, as you've probably seen with the one showcased in a few of my videos. With an IPS display and the classic keyboard/palmrest swap it's probably one of the best blends of classic and modern that you can get today. I'm glad you're happy with yours and thanks for watching my videos!
@horashio1593
@horashio1593 Жыл бұрын
@@SebisRandomTech Heck yeah! I have been thinking of upgrading the screen on my x230 actually. A month of usage and i love it. I put a msata ssd in so now ive dual booted it with windows/ubuntu. I am actually typing from the x230 in ubuntu rn. Really solid laptop. I would like to try the T series of thinkpads but I use my laptop for college, presentations, coding etc so I need an x series thinkpad for portability. Recently my friend wanted to get a laptop 2nd hand so i looked around for him and found a very nice deal. X270 16GB ram 520GB ssd very nice indeed. Catch is that he isnt getting payed till the end of the month so I have bought it and hell buy it off me haha. So thats arriving today so thats going to be fun to play with even if its for a short time haha.
@FR4M3Sharma
@FR4M3Sharma Жыл бұрын
Sebi, I know it would be a lot to do but would you be willing to do a video where you showcase or talk about almost every think pad made after the 2005?
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
That would be quite an undertaking, and there are so many obscure models or variations of models that such a video would be impossible. My hope is with every video I do to gradually talk about most of the notable models out there, and a few of the more obscure ones.
@Rivenworld
@Rivenworld Жыл бұрын
Have had 2 T420's which I no longer own simply because they couldn't run Da Vinci Resolve but I still have a T60 which runs XP and all of my legacy games, love these machines, I guess the only issue is that as they get older they smell a bit funny, but then... don't we all lol.
@gatherdust4035
@gatherdust4035 Жыл бұрын
I currently use a T61 for everyday use - indeed it’s my main computer. I agree this isn’t worth it as a replacement but this laptop has bested a X220, T400, T410, T520, P1, and others. That 4x3 screen and that era’s keyboard are worth its limitations. Also some older programs like Office 2007 work just fine.
@SebisRandomTech
@SebisRandomTech Жыл бұрын
Your username seems to be a misnomer since your T61 is indeed *not* gathering dust! :P But in all seriousness the 4:3 screen is one of the reasons I keep my machine around, however the 16:10 panels that newer ThinkPads are shipping with are quite nice (typing this from my X1 Nano Gen 1). Glad your machine is still kicking though, if it's still working just fine you might as well get as much use as you can out of it before it breaks for good or becomes too slow for modern tasks, it just isn't smart to go out of your way to get one now with the intent of using it as a daily driver. Thanks for watching!
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