SECOND DERAILMENT IN 3 WEEKS! 7/26/2019 Horseshoe Curve, PA

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No much at this time, but it seems centerbeams up front are the problem causing this on the curve. Please check Altoona local news and our Facebook Groups, Virtual Railfan Gallery & Virtual Railfan Lounge for more reporting and comments!
Other tracks are open at HSC as you can see from the video. Thanks for watching!
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@trmn311
@trmn311 5 жыл бұрын
The guy and his wife took off like it was their fault! C’mon on Mildred let’s get out of here! 😂
@TNS17
@TNS17 5 жыл бұрын
trmn311 😂🤣
@johncochran2907
@johncochran2907 5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@tomy.1846
@tomy.1846 5 жыл бұрын
LOL!!
@A65impalass
@A65impalass 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@lowjamz828
@lowjamz828 5 жыл бұрын
I thought that was hilarious. I can understand being surprised by it. But they took off like they were in some serious danger LOL!
@TrainTrackTrav
@TrainTrackTrav 5 жыл бұрын
Railroading so precise, they derail the same type of cars at the same location!
@thomasboese3793
@thomasboese3793 5 жыл бұрын
Due to railfan pressure, Horseshoe Curve is renamed to Derailment Hill Curve after the 3rd derailment in 6-weeks. NS spokesperson has no comment.
@marcusthelion9051
@marcusthelion9051 5 жыл бұрын
Oh NS when will you learn?! Centerbeams go at the Back!
@1ndygirl
@1ndygirl 5 жыл бұрын
At least they keep the silliness on the outside track 3.
@janekiceniuk1578
@janekiceniuk1578 5 жыл бұрын
We've I figured that out, & I know nothing about this stuff
@hifijohn
@hifijohn 5 жыл бұрын
You think the engineers would have said something at least took the curve very slowly.
@1ndygirl
@1ndygirl 5 жыл бұрын
@@hifijohn speed isn't the issue. Heavy engines and heavy freight cars (or a long string of them) pull the lightweight cars into a straight line and off of a curved track.
@Harveycartoonlvr11
@Harveycartoonlvr11 5 жыл бұрын
You know...that is WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO! Good Lord...What Next...NS has had it's share of Derailments in Pennsylvania this year!
@filmer765
@filmer765 5 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned: When hauling a freight train (long or short) on any railroad, Centerbeam cars always go on the back, not the front, nor the middle.
@michaelbeard3192
@michaelbeard3192 5 жыл бұрын
Stringline the long empties up front trying to pull a heavy train. Lets hear if for "Precision Railroading".
@13BGunBunny
@13BGunBunny 4 жыл бұрын
Burn.
@artmeadath2016
@artmeadath2016 5 жыл бұрын
Precision scheduled railroading....with precision scheduled derailments
@alexandergrube6437
@alexandergrube6437 5 жыл бұрын
Norfolk Southern: there was another derailment at Horseshoe Curve MOW workers: *say sike right now*
@timsering9964
@timsering9964 5 жыл бұрын
those empty, light weight wood racks up front...should have been in the rear....they just pulled across the chord of of the arc
@Narpets2112
@Narpets2112 5 жыл бұрын
Might I suggest that anytime you see a train come through with empty centerbeams in front, you keep the camera focused on them?
@bfurailroad1104
@bfurailroad1104 5 жыл бұрын
Bill, this camera is not manned 24hrs a day, only certain times of the day.
@traintimebigmachines
@traintimebigmachines 5 жыл бұрын
that is something to keep in mind, thanks!! wow
@TheDiveO
@TheDiveO 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe some AI could control the camera, and with the rail companies providing so much footage these days suitable for AI training...
@13BGunBunny
@13BGunBunny 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Most people at least have a phone to whip out.
@13BGunBunny
@13BGunBunny 4 жыл бұрын
@@bfurailroad1104 I think that he was talking about us, the people that like train crashes. "anytime you see" Note the word *you* in there?
@Bmorang
@Bmorang 5 жыл бұрын
This is becoming the Ashland of derailments
@chsrails
@chsrails 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@intimidate2161
@intimidate2161 5 жыл бұрын
Who ever put this train together missed a physics class and has no common sense. Light cars go to the back.
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention not reading a recent article in TRAINS magazine about train make up and how to avoid this.
@WSOR6604
@WSOR6604 5 жыл бұрын
You guys sure have it figured out.
@shadetreeforge
@shadetreeforge 5 жыл бұрын
Any model rail roader knows you don't makeup a train like that! obviously the yardmaster never played with trains as a kid or he would have known this!
@samiam619
@samiam619 5 жыл бұрын
Frank Strock OTOH, most model Railroaders only pull empty cars...
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 5 жыл бұрын
True but even modelers have trouble with cars like spine cars and finished lumbar cars.
@avajameson705
@avajameson705 5 жыл бұрын
At this rate, we'll be out of centerbeams by 2026!
@glenncartwright6136
@glenncartwright6136 5 жыл бұрын
Whoever keeps putting those empty centerbeams at the head of trains that have to travel around the Horseshoe with that steep of a grade needs to lose their job!
@kc4cvh
@kc4cvh 5 жыл бұрын
His name is Gomez Addams.
@jarhead4God
@jarhead4God 5 жыл бұрын
And this includes the engineer and the conductor!!!
@ohboy2592
@ohboy2592 5 жыл бұрын
jarhead4God and why should the engineer and conductor lose their jobs?
@Andrew-13579
@Andrew-13579 5 жыл бұрын
@@kc4cvh LOL
@jarhead4God
@jarhead4God 5 жыл бұрын
@@ohboy2592 It's in the rule book
@lateefcarrere1649
@lateefcarrere1649 5 жыл бұрын
Horseshoe Curve: I've got another derailment! That's 2 in 3 weeks! 11'8" bridge: Rookie!
@damien_epic5027
@damien_epic5027 5 жыл бұрын
NS: just a little mistake Train people: center beams in the back pls
@prrboy9359
@prrboy9359 5 жыл бұрын
Ns derailments before 2019: were fine Ns derailments now: not fine not fine
@beerybill
@beerybill 5 жыл бұрын
Someone sure mucked up. I have a large S scale layout in the garage and would never make up a consist like that.
@Clam73
@Clam73 5 жыл бұрын
Lol. When I was a kid in the 80s playing with my HO layout I knew not to put such a type of empty car in the front like that because it would pull on it going around a curve and might derail.
@Cpr1234
@Cpr1234 4 жыл бұрын
Train: *derails* Couple: ight we're gonna head out
@Railmovercom
@Railmovercom 5 жыл бұрын
fairly broad curve that can create lateral forces on empty rail cars at the front-especially tippy ones like centerbeams
@sparky107107
@sparky107107 5 жыл бұрын
the yard master should be fired. he does even know, don't put light weight cars at the front of a train.. twice now.
@pennsylvaniamodelrailroad
@pennsylvaniamodelrailroad 5 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same thought Sparky. You would think he would be EXTRA cautious after the first time.
@JoelTurrell
@JoelTurrell 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps he should be sued by his employer
@WSOR6604
@WSOR6604 5 жыл бұрын
@@JoelTurrell Seriously?
@mikeday6908
@mikeday6908 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on rules for train make up. Under 5500 tons on some RR there aren't any train make up restrictions other than hazmat placement. Never like empty anything on the head end.
@DaimosZ
@DaimosZ 5 жыл бұрын
I see NS is trying to pay tribute to the Penn Central with its current rail operations
@Denniss7420
@Denniss7420 5 жыл бұрын
*Heritage* Operations to match their paint schemes :)
@RRIA_America
@RRIA_America 5 жыл бұрын
1:28 Those two on the bench were out of there!
@rascallyrabbit717
@rascallyrabbit717 5 жыл бұрын
A train not moving is of little use
@mikejordan8259
@mikejordan8259 5 жыл бұрын
I saw that!
@ethancundiff6422
@ethancundiff6422 5 жыл бұрын
They missed the intermodal 3 minutes later!
@bigboy4384
@bigboy4384 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm going to have to explain to everyone about the dangers of putting empty cars up front.
@TheSjuris
@TheSjuris 5 жыл бұрын
267 empties, 15 full cars and no helpers.
@CSX4772
@CSX4772 5 жыл бұрын
Someone is going to get fired...
@bigboy4384
@bigboy4384 5 жыл бұрын
If you have a voice and are against Precision Railroading, speak out. People are going to die. Imagine if that CSX freight in Wellington was loaded with crude oil. Imagine if Amtrak was passing by the freight when it derailed. If a higher operating ratio means higher safety, than it is worth it.
@TheSjuris
@TheSjuris 5 жыл бұрын
@@CSX4772 didnt last time
@bigboy4384
@bigboy4384 5 жыл бұрын
@@eastcoastrailproductions5559 Maybe I wasn't clear enough but yes you are correct. That should never happen. The fact that it happened twice in a month should indicate something is wrong
@westep4273
@westep4273 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised this isn't Csx 😂
@fredfrederickson
@fredfrederickson 5 жыл бұрын
That couple on the bench wanted no part of that lol
@BlueRailz
@BlueRailz 5 жыл бұрын
Don't put Centerbeam in the front
@CPWindsorsub
@CPWindsorsub 5 жыл бұрын
Don't put empty cars up front in general.
@Levelworm
@Levelworm 5 жыл бұрын
@@CPWindsorsub Just curious, is it because they are too close to the engine and not heavy enough? And the heavier ones behind will kind of squeeze them?
@CPWindsorsub
@CPWindsorsub 5 жыл бұрын
@@Levelworm Yeah the heavy cars behind and the locomotives in front of the empties act like anchors. When going around curves the heavy cars/locos on either end make the lighter cars lift off the rails and attempt to to go in a straight line instead of around the turn. That's why the term is straightlining.
@Levelworm
@Levelworm 5 жыл бұрын
@@CPWindsorsub Ah that makes sense, thank you!
@hifijohn
@hifijohn 5 жыл бұрын
After 200 years of railroading in america you think these guys would learn.
@glendasmilesalot2959
@glendasmilesalot2959 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! The reaction of the couple is scary. I often wonder what I would do if I saw a derailment in person. Glad everyone is ok! Thanks for posting this @Virtual Railfan!
@rogermolina1244
@rogermolina1244 5 жыл бұрын
Like a Britney Spears song........ Oops I Did It Again🤣🤣🤣
@thomasboese3793
@thomasboese3793 5 жыл бұрын
OR, the kid on TV in the '80s; Steve something or another, Quote: "Did I do that?"
@jordonfreeman166
@jordonfreeman166 5 жыл бұрын
You mean Steve Urkel?
@cpzackproductions8821
@cpzackproductions8821 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Altoona needs a new yard master
@MicahLongo
@MicahLongo 5 жыл бұрын
35A originated at Enola
@x412x4
@x412x4 5 жыл бұрын
It’s not Altoona building that train
@PannierLaw
@PannierLaw 5 жыл бұрын
Man this is becoming the Death Valley of trains
@KCUnionStationTrains
@KCUnionStationTrains 5 жыл бұрын
Lol the couple & the guy at 1:25. the couple gets up like the train is about to hit them 😂😂
@subgod
@subgod 5 жыл бұрын
A good question to ask during the interview process for that job would be: have you ever owned or operated a miniature railroad? Would help avoid dumb mistakes like this... 👍
@cody8217
@cody8217 2 жыл бұрын
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard...
@dougslittlediesel
@dougslittlediesel 5 жыл бұрын
Same as before. Light cars ahead of heavy cars and pushed em right off the tracks down grade. Double and triple trailer set ups always have the heavy trailer first. Lighter trailer on back.
@aphotographerfromcaliforni2661
@aphotographerfromcaliforni2661 5 жыл бұрын
You know, I’ve learned this through my Lionel Train set Never set light empty freight cars at the front of a heavy consist; it increases the chance of a derailment and in this case, the train did end up derailing
@cletrac12c72
@cletrac12c72 5 жыл бұрын
Other train going by, " Ha! look at those rookies!"
@omega7b948
@omega7b948 5 жыл бұрын
NS railroad, New Stringlines
@TNS17
@TNS17 5 жыл бұрын
Stephen I. Northfolk Southern* btw nice joke xD
@mikeday6908
@mikeday6908 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! Ha!
@NSS247
@NSS247 5 жыл бұрын
Malfunction Junction how does it Function?????
@epiccsx
@epiccsx 4 жыл бұрын
So much for Norfolk Southern What's Your Function
@brandonkoole655
@brandonkoole655 5 жыл бұрын
Who's the amateur putting these trains together!? Even on model railroads, heavy cars up front, light ones in back.
@nowake
@nowake 5 жыл бұрын
Learned this one down on my Grandpa's layout in the basement when I was 9
@nicollestallkamp3655
@nicollestallkamp3655 5 жыл бұрын
Unless you want train schedules thrown out of whack, put empty cars at the rear of the train.
@CardboardSliver
@CardboardSliver 5 жыл бұрын
Lemme fix this. Unless you want your train schedules thrown out of whack Put your lights cars in back.
@colonelcactus2462
@colonelcactus2462 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t this the problem with the F45? The heavy locomotives and light passenger cars as well as the locomotive weight being mostly in the back with the steam generator caused derailments.
@nicollestallkamp3655
@nicollestallkamp3655 5 жыл бұрын
@@colonelcactus2462 That was the SDP40F, the F45 was a freight locomotive.
@fox5news68
@fox5news68 5 жыл бұрын
My train after trying to run an auto rack on 18 inch radius curves.
@LittleRockElevators
@LittleRockElevators 5 жыл бұрын
This is crazy. Two derailments in 3 weeks time.
@FrehleyFan3988
@FrehleyFan3988 5 жыл бұрын
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!! THATS THE SECOND ONE!!!!!! CLEAN IT UP! HURRY CLEAN IT UP!!!!!!!!! CLEAN IT UP CLEAN IT UP!! CLEAN IT UP!!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING CLEAN IT UP I SAID!!!!! AND WHO PUTS CENTERBEAMS AT THE FRONT OF THE TRAIN? ALONG WITH HEAVY * HIGH CUUUUUUUUBES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
@mansfielddepotconnecticutr1224
@mansfielddepotconnecticutr1224 5 жыл бұрын
Uh guys does this mean no burgers tonight?
@richardgerlach5156
@richardgerlach5156 5 жыл бұрын
Somebody failed Train Consist Arrangement 101!
@mikegross6107
@mikegross6107 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, didn't realize there were so many train authorities out there! You guys need to get back with the railroad companies and give them a hand!
@anb7408
@anb7408 7 ай бұрын
It actually doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. But it does take someone with brains, which NS is not accustomed to hiring……as evident by this video.
@BenWillKing
@BenWillKing 5 жыл бұрын
And both derailments involved yellow centerbeam flats at the front. Gotta be something defective with the yellow ones. 😏
@dustyj4037
@dustyj4037 5 жыл бұрын
Yellow is the lightest of all the colors. Red or green is heavier and therefore the derailment might not of happened
@brownpcsuncedu
@brownpcsuncedu 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe they didn't have enough graffiti? All the extra weight of that spray paint, y'know... ;-)
@michaelharman7823
@michaelharman7823 5 жыл бұрын
I think the centerbeams cars are too light with heavier cars behind them actually being pulled towards the center of the circle, I noticed that being right behind the engines before it derailed. It's OK if you are always going straight ahead but in a fairly sharp turn they will be torn lose from the track and pulled away from the track.
@AmtrakStop14
@AmtrakStop14 5 жыл бұрын
Stringlined ‘em. Empty centerbeams right behind the locomotives....
@moyomongoose1980
@moyomongoose1980 5 жыл бұрын
When I first starting viewing this video, I had guessed it would be those empty building material cars that would derail. Enough heavier cars to require three locomotives to pull them, and those lighter weight building material cars being directly behind the locomotives, I'd say the resistance of the rest of the cars on a sharp curve pulled those material carriers off toward the inside of the curve.
@scottfw7169
@scottfw7169 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to assemble a train. But maybe they ought to hire a few anyway.
@michaelbujaki2462
@michaelbujaki2462 2 жыл бұрын
You're right, but they're called centerbeam flatcars. Why it's centerbeam and not centertruss I have no idea.
@CPWindsorsub
@CPWindsorsub 5 жыл бұрын
Who's the idiot that keeps adding empties to the head end of these trains? Do the train masters decide how these trains are blocked, or do the crews decide when they make lifts from other yards? I'm assuming there's some sort of formula they use when calculating weight distribution, and what the optimal distribution is for the subdivision(s) the train is on.
@mikeday6908
@mikeday6908 5 жыл бұрын
I am sure there is a train make up, varies by subdivision and carrier. This train probably complied with restrictions or it wouldn't have left the yard.
@rrboomboomer5325
@rrboomboomer5325 5 жыл бұрын
My pop, B&O Trainmaster......turning in his grave!
@Madhuntr
@Madhuntr 5 жыл бұрын
workers who gotta rescue those waggons will go "WE JUST CLEANED UP THE LAST ONE!"
@OpenRoader
@OpenRoader 5 жыл бұрын
OK, I'm no engineer, but I know from having model trains since I was 5 that YOU CAN'T PUT THE LIGHT CARS AT THE FRONT IN A TIGHT CORNER!!!!!
@WayneEdwardsVoiceovers
@WayneEdwardsVoiceovers 5 жыл бұрын
Gheee! You'd think that they would have figured it out the last time this happened that those empty Center Beam cars could be a problem..
@victoriacyunczyk
@victoriacyunczyk 4 жыл бұрын
Penn Central lives on...
@taoskid8769
@taoskid8769 5 жыл бұрын
Empty centerbeams behind all that power? Thats trouble waiting to happen.
@turbo1438
@turbo1438 5 жыл бұрын
this seems like an elementary concept to avoid. The train world is all having a good chuckle on these wannabes right now.
@beercommercial1
@beercommercial1 5 жыл бұрын
Three empty centerbeam cars right at the front, pulling uphill on a notorious curve. What did they think was going to happen?
@williamlenoch1526
@williamlenoch1526 5 жыл бұрын
I've heard doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is the definition of....well, NS!
@amandagreen1974
@amandagreen1974 5 жыл бұрын
Well this evening l am going to go check that sinkhole under RR marker 390 located in Sylacauga Alabama. It is growing. Last weekend a highway was shut down here in Sylacauga due to a 12-14 ft Sinkhole.
@patrickoguinn4553
@patrickoguinn4553 5 жыл бұрын
Empty centerbeams on the headend and all that power will try to straighten out the curve everytime.
@thomassalerno5203
@thomassalerno5203 5 жыл бұрын
Virtually the same car arrangement in almost the same area of the curve with the same same result. Who ever put that train together will probably lose their job. You can’t make up a car arrangement with light units like this on a model railroad either b/c you will get the same results.
@dgwachtel
@dgwachtel 5 жыл бұрын
Just have an HO test track with sharp curves for testing my refurbished power and cars. The other day I put heavy cars in the back of a consist in error and string lined something like ten of the fifteen cars in the consist, putting them on their sides on the inside of the curve. I was going slow too. It looked like the last H.C. derailment only with different freight cars. The same physics apply! Amazing that they made that mistake twice in three weeks. -Dave
@donnebes9421
@donnebes9421 5 жыл бұрын
dgwachtel you retired ns?
@dgwachtel
@dgwachtel 5 жыл бұрын
Nope. I've encountered the sting lining several times modelling HO though. Worked as a research assistant and then a software developer in R&D. Just getting back into railroad modelling over the last few years, resuming from where I left off as a teenager. My uncle was a conductor for NYC though. Didn't see much of him growing up. Alas no free train/cab rides 🙁 My elementary school was located adjacent to a large rail yard. All the kids were into trains. There was a nearby bridge over the yard where many of us went to train watch. Putting coins on a rail was common practice in those days as well. - Dave
@mickeyman2767
@mickeyman2767 5 жыл бұрын
WhEn WiLl YoU lEaRn, WhEn WiLl YoU lEaRn, ThAt YoUr AcTiOnS (putting empty center beams in front) hAvE cOnSeQuEnCeS (derailment)
@UniqueLeatherWorking
@UniqueLeatherWorking 5 жыл бұрын
At his point people should be fired for putting the empty Centerbeams at the front and the engineer taking it knowing it will derail. Sad stuff.
@THR33STEP
@THR33STEP 5 жыл бұрын
NS should cut more helper jobs!!! It’s job security for Hulcher!!!
@derail14
@derail14 5 жыл бұрын
i know some west coast rr ,s required 5 loads on the head end to prevent this sort of thing, in rail talk its called string lining.
@TheBrickGuy7939
@TheBrickGuy7939 5 жыл бұрын
Light wagons at the back!
@daviddowling9830
@daviddowling9830 5 жыл бұрын
The engineers should not start their train when they see the consist is not distributed properly
@CPWindsorsub
@CPWindsorsub 5 жыл бұрын
They might not be able to make that call. I would think it's the train master's or yard master's job at the originating yard to make sure the train is distributed properly. Helper sets coming out of sync from the head-end or vice versa can also cause this but if that was the case here there would be a good chance everything that was on the curve would have derailed.
@colossusofclout727
@colossusofclout727 5 жыл бұрын
CPWindsorsub Actually it wouldn’t be the Yardmasters fault because it’s the Conductors responsibility to make sure the train make up is correct! And all the weight of the cars are in order.
@ohboy2592
@ohboy2592 5 жыл бұрын
colossus of clout wrong. It’s not the conductors responsible for checking the placement of any cars other than those that have restrictions. Empty center beams are not restricted cars.
@rickenbacker315
@rickenbacker315 5 жыл бұрын
@@ohboy2592 Exactly right. The conductor makes sure the head 6 cars are in compliance as far as hazard placement.
@robertreynolds7049
@robertreynolds7049 5 жыл бұрын
PSR at its best!!!! They covered up a derailment already.... NS LAID OFF of a bunch of people that maintain these locomotives passing through here. Reported record profits 2 days after. Not enough people to run a major shop now. Rushing people around on top of it... This is what you get. PSR IS A MONEY GRAB FOR STOCKHOLDERS. THEY REDUCE THE WORKFORCE THAT MAINTAIN THE ENGINES- THEN TRY TO COVER UP THE RESULTS. Safety for the employees and the public is no concern anymore.
@briancooper562
@briancooper562 5 жыл бұрын
I apologies for my previous comment. It may be a Catch-22 position. Sorting trains in to a safe consist takes time. Time is money. Go with what you have. What you have causes accidents. Accidents loose you time. Accidents lose you money. Thankfully no one got killed or injured.
@ohboy2592
@ohboy2592 5 жыл бұрын
Love all the so called expert knowledge on here. The train length has more to do with this rather than the weight. Thousands of trains leave everyday with empties on the head end and traverse curves with no problem. The issue is caused by the length being strung out out so long plus the lack of weight on the head end, not just the lack of weight on the head end. If this train was say 1-2,000 feet shorter this probably wouldn’t have happened.
@DuckOfRubber
@DuckOfRubber 5 жыл бұрын
At least the cleanup guys know how to get there
@javanm-a1515
@javanm-a1515 5 жыл бұрын
Notice how the heavy train cars should be at the front and the light train cars should be at the back. But this train was the other way around which is why it derailed.
@thomasboese3793
@thomasboese3793 5 жыл бұрын
I'm positive everything stayed on the track going Down-Hill on the Straight-Track... So UP-Hill on a Curve? No problem!!
@dennismanbook
@dennismanbook 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like an string line type of derailment having the lighter empty cars going off track and heavier cars likely at the back of train. That also happens with model and toy trains when going around tight curves whenever heavier cars are at the back and light cars up front.
@jjaagg5050
@jjaagg5050 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe all center beam cars should be at the end of the train. The empty ones at least.
@Bassotronics
@Bassotronics 3 жыл бұрын
Improper consist. Empty centerbeams right behind the loco on a curve pulling heavier railcars is not really a good idea. “String-lining” took effect here.
@ryanwolfe8486
@ryanwolfe8486 3 ай бұрын
I was a witness to this happening I was their when it happened it was caused by the weight of the cargo when the weight shifted from the middle to the front
@naamanwilson4066
@naamanwilson4066 5 жыл бұрын
These trains need to slow down. Also, empty centerbeam cars should not be in front of the locomotive on the curve.
@gerikucinski2427
@gerikucinski2427 5 жыл бұрын
I almost have to wonder if they changed a key person or two recently in the yard (retirement, etc) and the new person still hasn’t quite figured it out.
@stephenhunter70
@stephenhunter70 5 жыл бұрын
It could also be that this not putting empty flats etc at the front is "old school" stuff that the yard managers etc might not be aware of. The other thing is it might be happening to "save time" but removing them from the train with the trains locos when they arrive at their destination.
@TheAnasthetic
@TheAnasthetic 5 жыл бұрын
The guy in the white vest at 1.00 looked very suspicious.
@ThatBoyWithAJeepLibertyRenegad
@ThatBoyWithAJeepLibertyRenegad 5 жыл бұрын
You have got to be kidding me. There are way to many derailments going on rn and I don't know why.
@ekt8750
@ekt8750 5 жыл бұрын
Idiot yard masters not putting trains together correctly
@ThatBoyWithAJeepLibertyRenegad
@ThatBoyWithAJeepLibertyRenegad 5 жыл бұрын
@@ekt8750 yep. That's why you put emptyies on back so if you lose lighter cars you won't lose half the dang train with it
@CMOTrains783
@CMOTrains783 5 жыл бұрын
PSR
@ThatBoyWithAJeepLibertyRenegad
@ThatBoyWithAJeepLibertyRenegad 5 жыл бұрын
@@CMOTrains783 what do u mean by that?
@CPWindsorsub
@CPWindsorsub 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThatBoyWithAJeepLibertyRenegad With NS's use of helpers here putting them on the back might not be the best place for them either. Somewhere in the middle of the train between lighter loaded cars.
@BPJJohn
@BPJJohn 5 жыл бұрын
I think testing out different types of trains in a program with physics simulation may help to figure the optimal distribution of cars to avoid this type of thing happening.(The height of the centre beam and stresses pulling on the coupler at that angle of the curve may be a factor).
@nancyoffenhiser4916
@nancyoffenhiser4916 5 жыл бұрын
They're NOT being "trained" that's the problem
@cody8217
@cody8217 2 жыл бұрын
They are run in simulators all the time. Simulators can't always predict everything.
@davebnsfnscale4433
@davebnsfnscale4433 5 жыл бұрын
Guess they didn't learn that empty centerbeams at the front of a train going upgrade through a pretty tight curves might not be the best idea
@gobanu
@gobanu 5 жыл бұрын
They just love to put light unloaded cars before heavily loaded ones... great for long sharp curves!
@1ndygirl
@1ndygirl 5 жыл бұрын
At least from what we can see, the other cars were loaded enough to stay on the tracks.
@kurtwarner4585
@kurtwarner4585 5 жыл бұрын
Oops!! Shouldn't the empty wood cars be put on the end of the train or stagger the empty cars throughout the train?
@stephenroberts4895
@stephenroberts4895 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@pr111bprr6
@pr111bprr6 5 жыл бұрын
Must be flatlanders running a mountain railroad 😂
@NoFear2473651
@NoFear2473651 5 жыл бұрын
Dude really!? That's why you dont put center beams in the front!
@coreypage2851
@coreypage2851 5 жыл бұрын
"AGAIN, George? This again?" "Yup, this again..."
@nochin8783
@nochin8783 5 жыл бұрын
PSR strikes again
@ChakatNightspark
@ChakatNightspark 5 жыл бұрын
YAY for a Safe Rerailment
@brucejones2354
@brucejones2354 5 жыл бұрын
I have an idea, maybe they do this just to provide entertainment for the audience.
@nationwiderailfanproductio9593
@nationwiderailfanproductio9593 5 жыл бұрын
Tehachapi: we don't have any derailments Horshoe curve:
@frederickjunctionproductio9752
@frederickjunctionproductio9752 5 жыл бұрын
DANG IT BOBBY! you had one job to make sure the tracks where up to par, and you done goofed up again!
@railyardfilms6491
@railyardfilms6491 5 жыл бұрын
Are there Mario kart bananas on ns hsc causeing mayham with from
@cedarvalleyrail8419
@cedarvalleyrail8419 5 жыл бұрын
100-0 real quick
@mauroshaddai3332
@mauroshaddai3332 3 жыл бұрын
wow awesome derailment greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽 👋
@AWSmith1955
@AWSmith1955 5 жыл бұрын
Its like a reenactment
@MrMark85044
@MrMark85044 5 жыл бұрын
hello rail yard, who put that train together. Joe raise his hand. Hey, dont you also work for RJ Corman? Maybe!!!!!
@mikeday6908
@mikeday6908 5 жыл бұрын
Without seeing the train list, not sure if the cars directly behind the center beams are loaded or empty. Edit* Having just read the story link it appears the 6 cars that derailed were empty.
@SeaShepherd23
@SeaShepherd23 5 жыл бұрын
That lady on the bench jumped up and ran eventhough the derailment was past her
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