Section 1 Firearms FAC Security Explained

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srspower

srspower

10 жыл бұрын

A run-down of what you need to do to secure your section 1 firearms when applying for an FAC. Like us on Facebook:-
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@usmale9112001
@usmale9112001 10 жыл бұрын
Great setup! We haven't reached that point yet here in the USA but they keep trying. Keep the vids coming my brother from across the pond, my favorite channel on youtube!
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
I hope it never comes to that for you guys! And thanks for watching :)
@yobrodontshoot1130
@yobrodontshoot1130 2 жыл бұрын
Theyve literally never tried to make it this hard federally, to this day 😅
@davepayne586
@davepayne586 9 ай бұрын
they wont put up with that over there.
@rsturbo6958
@rsturbo6958 10 жыл бұрын
Good job man! Looking forward to seeing the new 10/22!
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
I am too! I have the money saved up, now it's a waiting game :)
@S3dINS
@S3dINS Жыл бұрын
I used 12mm anchors so needed to drill 20mm holes in the wall and had to open the holes out in the cabinet. It feels far more sturdy than when it was fixed with the standard 10mm anchors. It did make rather a large mess of the wall though lol.
@dynamotightstar3472
@dynamotightstar3472 2 ай бұрын
Update for modern houses. We only have stud walls and so my cabinet is between the wall joists crossed bolted through them. Obviosuly i had to cut the plaster board etc to fit the cabinet and then also drill additional in the sides of the cabinet. Its installed with 10 lag bolts and itll hold 2 people easily. The only brick we have is the external walls front and rear and the FAO wasnt happy with those walls. Its painted and and got a trim peice so you cant even really see it. The only issue now is that I need a bigger cabinet! 🤣
@huntersmoon9724
@huntersmoon9724 7 жыл бұрын
Liked and subbed mate... Very useful. I've just built a home made night sight set up (on my channel) and I hope to get FAC .22 for night time rabbit hunting with it, upgrading from my air rifle. 👍👍
@RIH_Photography
@RIH_Photography 5 жыл бұрын
Hi get a pot rivet gun and some light weight angle to hold your shelves in place or remove the cabinet pilot drill hole and screw the shelves through the side ..hope this helps
@gypsy_mattgic
@gypsy_mattgic 5 жыл бұрын
0:23 comin' straight outa closet
@sherlock9397
@sherlock9397 4 жыл бұрын
I am planning on buying some woodland how much land would I need for a FAC because there are no shooting ranges near me only clay pigeon shooting near me and I want to go for my FAC would it would was some private land or would the police tell me no
@firecrackers241
@firecrackers241 10 жыл бұрын
Sweet !!!!!!!! Look ford to seeing it in a vid !!!! Good luck!!XD
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ash :)
@nufarulunu
@nufarulunu 9 жыл бұрын
great video . I am in the exact same situation right now. Finished my probationary period at the local club, had my one-two shotgun cabinet from the SGC and about to send in my application for the FAC and amo was a concern and I might opt for your alternative eventually as it does seem very reasonable to get a six gun cabinet and use the initial one as a amo storage. I did look even at some small individual ones specifically for amo but they still seem too small to me. Anyways, thanks for for the tip. Since this post is from 2014 I assume you already got your FAC. How long did it take you to get the inspection/interview since you sent in your application?
@srspower
@srspower 9 жыл бұрын
Yes I have my FAC now and a Browning T-Bolt in .22lr (see recent videos), I'm going to buy a section 1 shotgun soon. Funnily enough it only took two weeks to get my visit from sending off the application. But then a further 6 weeks for the license to come through. Apparently because someone was off work ill. That's west mercia although it does seem a lottery with these things. Thanks for watching :)
@srspower
@srspower 9 жыл бұрын
***** No questions requiring club use, being a member gives you 'good reason' for any firearm that's legal to use at the club. If I'd asked for a .338 lampua or a .50 BMG he would have asked questions though as the club does not have facilities for them and I would have to travel to other clubs to use them. He was far more interested in my level of experience shooting 'in the field' ie: had I been taken out with a .22lr or .243 hunting before? Many forces now require you to have experience to get centrefire or even rimfire in the field to be granted permission to hunt with them. Not legal though, and when I get my .243 I will demand they put it in writing so I can pass it on to BASC's solicitors.
@WrathOfVaz
@WrathOfVaz 5 жыл бұрын
How did you reinforce the floor?
@Biastai
@Biastai 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks again! :-)
@srspower
@srspower 9 жыл бұрын
Glad to be a help, thanks for watching :)
@1986danx
@1986danx 4 жыл бұрын
only one issue... its a spanner... not a wrench... unless you're American lol
@graeme3023
@graeme3023 6 жыл бұрын
I had a firearms certificate in the 90s before the Dunblane Massacre. I didn't own any rifles but several handguns... Glock 19 (9mm), AMT 1911 clone (.45 ACP) and a Beretta 92F.(9mm). I got out of shooting in late 1995 and sold everything. I got pretty good prices for everything and since I'd bought all my guns second hand anyway, pretty much got my money back on everything except the Beretta (and that was only because it had a tiny crack on the slide) My question is, did those who had to participate in the police buy back lose much money? A guy who went to my old pistol club told me he actually got back more the he paid for with a Glock 17 that he'd bought a couple of years earlier.. Does that sound right? Thank you in advance to anyone who sees this and is able to provide an answer... it's something that I'd always wondered about... cheers
@happynotnormal
@happynotnormal 5 жыл бұрын
Graeme one of my instructors at my gun club who at the time had a couple of 45s (unsure what) and a browning hi power ended up “making money”
@redfootballer
@redfootballer 7 жыл бұрын
So do I need to fit an approved gun safe before I can even apply for a fac ? Also is police approved gunsafe not good enough as u mentioned government approved ?
@samuelmansell9749
@samuelmansell9749 5 жыл бұрын
You can apply but make sure you buy your cabinet shortly after, government approved is good and must be bolted to an outside, not dry wall separating kitchen from living room
@ollie1016
@ollie1016 10 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of getting a .22 rifle, for pigeons/ rabbit/ targets. Any recommendations? I've got the same safe as you! Great Video, thanks
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
Depends on a few factors really. The CZ 455 is a fantastic bolt gun for the money with a really nice trigger out of the box. I used them on my probation at my local club and my Dad had one when I was a boy. But if you have the money the Anschutz 1416 is an incredible piece of kit. I am getting a 'rimfire magic' ruger 1022 as I will use it for hunting as well as for practical mini rifle competitions so I need it to be semi automatic. Rimfire magic 1022's are expensive but they are highly tuned and custom. Thanks for watching :)
@FatGuyWithAKatana
@FatGuyWithAKatana 10 жыл бұрын
you might get some tips out of theyankeemarshall about putting shelves in that little cabinet. so what kinda rifle ya getting?
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
I have put two in now using wood and expoxy resin seems to be working! I will be getting a rimfire magic ruger 1022 to start with. Thanks for watching Gabe :)
@TheAlexagius
@TheAlexagius 10 жыл бұрын
I have a sliding cupboard with space for the gun cabinet and ammo cabinet, would it be worth me putting it inside there as its not on display?
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be a good idea, I should of mentioned in the video that you need to put the cabinet somewhere were casual visitors aren't going to see it. That's what's handy where I put mine really tucked away. Thanks for watching :)
@firecrackers241
@firecrackers241 10 жыл бұрын
Grate video!!!!!!!!!!!! what rifle are u getting ?
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
A Rimfire magic 1022 with a hogue stock and heavy barrel. Hopefully!
@Aj-om4dt
@Aj-om4dt 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I’m going to be upgrading my air rifle in the new year atm I’ve got a sub 12ft/lbs FX wildcat mk2 & I am going to get a FX impact MK3 in high power version in .22 & the barrel & probe/mag for a .25 I know I’m going to need a FAC in order to purchase it but I Don’t want any powder burner rifles at all. My question to you is. When applying for my FAC literally just for the FAC air rifle is it the exact same process as when applying for a live fire powder burner rifle? Your time is very much appreciated. Thankyou Adam
@srspower
@srspower 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is but you know that FAC air rifles are underpowered and lose their value as soon as you buy them right?
@Aj-om4dt
@Aj-om4dt 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou, but I’m not going to be re-selling it & im keeping my FX wildcat mk2 sub 12 as well. Thankyou for your time much appreciated
@paintbasstard
@paintbasstard 10 жыл бұрын
Question. Is there a 22lr shortage in England? I know not as many people in the UK have guns (compared to the US) but there is a serious shortage of 22lr ammo in the states. Most stores don't have any .22 and if they do, they limit only 2-3 boxes per customer. Also, do you have a video explaining the gun laws in the UK? I had to rewind the video when I heard you talking about "how much ammo you asked for". Needing to ask the government for ammo just seems wrong to me. (no offence)
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
Yes with section 1 we have to nominate calibre firearms we want to own and have 'good reason' for them. And so with ammo we have to ask for what we need ie: a club member can hold many more rounds than a hunter. For this reason we don't have people panic buying ammo and there is no shortage here. Thanks for watching :)
@JohnIsAngryAgain
@JohnIsAngryAgain 8 жыл бұрын
Question. Could section 1 ammo be locked away in a cabinet that is holding section 2 guns?
@srspower
@srspower 8 жыл бұрын
+JohnIsAngryAgain I would have thought probably not but it is an interesting question for your FEO.
@adambiggadike2083
@adambiggadike2083 9 жыл бұрын
can you do one one the section 2 as me and my dad are looking to get are one
@srspower
@srspower 9 жыл бұрын
I plan on doing a how to for SGC applications in the new year, keep watching :)
@gazzaandhenri
@gazzaandhenri 10 жыл бұрын
I have just purchased a new gun cabinet as I am also applying for my fac and have already put our shotguns from the old safe into the new one, is there any problem with this or should I wait until the police have done a check on it?
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
I suppose technically you should wait until it has been inspected but as long as it is secure I shouldn't think it's a problem. Thanks for watching :)
@rataca100
@rataca100 9 жыл бұрын
Would a surplus military ammo container count if you get one that can have a padlock? (If you keep it in something to stop it getting stolen.
@srspower
@srspower 9 жыл бұрын
rataca100 You will need to modify one quite a bit to accommodate a padlock. If you did then you'd need to also fasten it to the floor/wall.
@rataca100
@rataca100 9 жыл бұрын
***** If only, those things can hold a lot of ammo in boxes.
@promedia7696
@promedia7696 5 жыл бұрын
the ones with lock tops will be taller so you can store full length guns
@yahyajebari7868
@yahyajebari7868 9 жыл бұрын
Hay I'm 18 and I found a club but I suffered from anxiety for a bit now it's gone can I still have a gun licence I just want to shoot 22LR a ar15 type
@srspower
@srspower 9 жыл бұрын
Well the police will speak to your doctor. If he doesn't think you have a problem anymore then neither will they. I don't think you will have a problem.
@adrianward362
@adrianward362 4 жыл бұрын
Do i have to have the shotgun cabinet on the floor or can it be hung securely on the wall about 18" off the ground
@tomsoki5738
@tomsoki5738 4 жыл бұрын
adrian ward I’m pretty sure it’s as long and it can hold the weight of a person
@1983lparker
@1983lparker 4 жыл бұрын
@@tomsoki5738 and you cant get a jack under the cabinet to jack it off the wall
@Anoop_Samra1
@Anoop_Samra1 7 ай бұрын
When getting a gun safe, do you need to keep your keys in a seperate room from the locker, I can’t find any information on this
@srspower
@srspower 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think there is a specific rule other than them not being easily found.
@Anoop_Samra1
@Anoop_Samra1 7 ай бұрын
@@srspower thank you mate
@Elfin4
@Elfin4 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to keep your safe keys on your person all the time?
@yobrodontshoot1130
@yobrodontshoot1130 2 жыл бұрын
He probably keeps one on his keyring and one hidden in his home.
@Theoatob
@Theoatob 10 жыл бұрын
Do you mind me asking what your 'good reason' is for slugs? And also if I remember correctly you have a silver pigeon. Will that shoot slugs? I have a silver pigeon and a fox problem my 1022 isn't quite cut up for :)
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
I have a Browning B525 not a silver pigeon. But yes it will shoot slugs fine, not that I plan to use it for that! My good reason for slugs is that I am a member of a gun club and take part in practical shotgun competitions that use slugs and I am buying a Winchester SX3 7+1 for that and vermin . I can also target shoot with slugs on the range. For using slugs on land you will struggle as the FEO will recommend other calibres to do the same job ie: for fox he would probably suggest a .223 or a .243. BUT there is no reason you can't kill a fox with a .22 or a shotgun. Just a question of squeaking them in close enough. As a boy my Dad shot MANY foxes with his CZ 455 in .22lr with subsonic 40 grain loads.
@Theoatob
@Theoatob 10 жыл бұрын
***** Ahh for some reason I thought I'd seen you shoot a Silver pigeon. I didn't fancy my chances as great for getting slugs for foxes. I've just not felt entirely comfortable using the .22. But as you and many others have proved, its clearly good enough. I'll make do for now and make the call for a centre fire once I've been on the game a while longer. I felt cheeky enough just recently asking for an open certificate only two years into my section 1. But they granted it. Perhaps once I'm up for renewal and older than 23 I'll go for it. Good luck with your competitions!
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
Theoatob If you have been granted an open license you could maybe justify it. With boar for instance slugs are recommended if they are driven. And you can drive foxes too and call them. The only tricky area is using a section 2 shotgun with section 1 ammunition. At our club we bought a box of slugs and shot them through a section 2 semi (Tom's Maxus) see here:- scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/1397389_277846952384653_2136909787_o.jpg Not bad group for 50 metres with no sights! There is no law against it but I would be doubtful you'd get them on your ticket without a section 1 shotgun to go with them. Also Winchester do a special 'fox load' in .22lr that is 42 grain rather than the usual 40, more than enough up to 60 metres with headshots in my view. If you have a lot of foxes though I really recommend getting a good caller. Then you can use number 4 or BB to easily shoot them within 20 metres or so with your shotgun, no need for slugs then!
@tomsoki5738
@tomsoki5738 4 жыл бұрын
So brave of you to come out of the closet on KZfaq! 😂😂
@abseconPC
@abseconPC 8 жыл бұрын
ammo limits is it at 1 time or per year
@srspower
@srspower 8 жыл бұрын
+Brett Duffy The limit is how much you can hold at any one time.
@mariobross1420
@mariobross1420 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I need a proper advice from you how can l be successful to get fac for air rifle over 12ftlbs. I live in Devon in flat so no access to the garden. I'm shooting at the moment in one of the air rifles club which you don't have to member only pay and shoot under 12ftlbs. I would like to buy new air rifle which is more power then 12 ftlbs how can l convince the officer to get the fac?. I have fac cabinet already. There is so many nice air rifles but they are over 12ftlbs. What to do? Please can you advise mi something?
@srspower
@srspower 3 жыл бұрын
You won’t get an fac air rifle for target shooting unless you are a member of a proper section 1 gun club. And then why wouldn’t you buy a real rifle? Go find a gun club in your area and join it.
@mariobross1420
@mariobross1420 3 жыл бұрын
@@srspower thanks this is what I will do soon if they are going to reopen as for now everything is close.
@peterbudgen195
@peterbudgen195 6 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm not sure if anyone can help me, before the pistols were all collected I used to go Pistol shooting for quite a few years,. Thing is I used a wheelchair and now use an electric one. I had 2 x .22 pistols one was a browning semi auto and the other was an old Russian job that fired shorter bullets, 1 x .38/357 S&W magnum and the last but not least was my S&W .44 Magnum. obviously like everyone they were all given in, the money helped but I lost my main sport. now I have even more time although less mobile I now want to get back into shooting. My BIG question is (see I did get to it) does anyone know of any clubs/ranges that are wheelchair accessible? If anyone can help it would be appreciated, I do drive myself so getting to somewhere isn't a problem. regards to all who read this. Pete.
@srspower
@srspower 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Budgen Worcester norton shooting club is fairy wheelchair friendly I think. It’s where I shoot.
@peterbudgen195
@peterbudgen195 6 жыл бұрын
does anyone know of any in kent
@zorsenothorse
@zorsenothorse 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterbudgen195 nra.org.uk/clubs/southeastclubs/ Please see this for more information for clubs full bore etc in Kent, I'm also in Kent
@abseconPC
@abseconPC 8 жыл бұрын
shotgun slugs require extra licensing there if they do can you melt down birdshot or Buckshot and make your own without the extra license
@srspower
@srspower 8 жыл бұрын
+Brett Duffy With a section 2 license you can buy and own 00 buckshot if you like provided the cartridge holds 9 pellets or more. In the UK our version of 00 Buckshot is called SG. No you can't make your own slugs! Unless you have a section 1 license with a section 1 shotgun on it that has slugs put as ammo. Generally slugs can only be shot at an approved range but I have heard of people getting them for boar or even deer.
@abseconPC
@abseconPC 8 жыл бұрын
+srspower but you could not use that for deer hunting and if you want to you could cast your own slugs with no license
@srspower
@srspower 8 жыл бұрын
Brett Duffy Some people do get slugs conditioned on their license for deer but not usually. Casting your own slugs without the right license will get you jail time.
@adriantyler6911
@adriantyler6911 6 жыл бұрын
There is no law to stop you casting your own slugs...press them into a cartridge and it's a different story.
@yobrodontshoot1130
@yobrodontshoot1130 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: cut the bottom of your shotgun cartridge 75-80% around. This will cause the casing to come off with the pellets, essentially making a poor mans slug or saboted round. Absolutely useless in the UK though. Just thought id share a neat way to make adhoc slugs.
@thebigredwagon
@thebigredwagon 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the rules on assault rifles? Can you keep one in a safe like yours?
@srspower
@srspower 4 жыл бұрын
Centrefire semi auto rifles are essentially illegal, same for handguns. Unless they are in .22 rimfire.
@olliemad
@olliemad 5 жыл бұрын
What’s a wrench?
@jamesparker9256
@jamesparker9256 4 жыл бұрын
Ghostvendors ,com are the best dealers i know .I buy firearms online from em and they have never failed me .
@thehuntertv2272
@thehuntertv2272 10 жыл бұрын
I have a section one cabinet and I use it for shotguns and the box at the top will only hold 50 cartridges which is stupid it's a 3 gun good video
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly, I guess the assumption is you're just going to fill it with .22lr which it would suffice for I guess. But I will have 250 slugs on my ticket that's ten boxes! Definitely not going to fit in a boxlock! Thanks for watching :)
@nicolaknight141
@nicolaknight141 5 жыл бұрын
I am a kid and I am no less safe with guns and ammo than an adult
@srspower
@srspower 5 жыл бұрын
Nicola Knight probably safer than some adults!
@motomeadyhuntingndmotocros6147
@motomeadyhuntingndmotocros6147 10 жыл бұрын
is it true that I wud need a different shotgun licence 4 a 3shot semi auto ? compared 2 a normal 2shot shotgun 12g
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
No of course not! Section 2 covers any kind of shotgun up to three shots. In the case of a semi auto or pump it has to have a fixed magazine set to only hold 2 rounds so you have three including the one in the chamber. Semi autos/pumps become section 1 when you want more than three shots and/or removable magazines. Slugs are also section 1.
@motomeadyhuntingndmotocros6147
@motomeadyhuntingndmotocros6147 10 жыл бұрын
o ryt cool ill get a semi auto 3shot then as the 1 extra shot is more handy even tho I prefer a over and under or side by side but I wuda fort it wud b beta 4 me with a single barrel rather then 2 as iv tried putting a cartridge in just the top and in just the bottom aswell as I seem 2 miss more on 2nd shot with top barrel on over nd under 12g but not much tho iv dun plently of testing at the clay pigeon shoot I go 2 so fort a single barrel semi auto 3shot wud b beta and more handy with the extra cartridge
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
motomeady kawasaki It is probably more a case of fit. The comb is a big issue for me on my 525. But I shoot semi autos pretty well as they have a low comb already. But keep practising and try lots of guns before you decide. And the third shot is so in the hide you can load another two but still have it ready to shoot. You shouldn't need the third shot!
@thecardiffprepper3686
@thecardiffprepper3686 9 жыл бұрын
Hi there I am going to get my sgc and I am 16 because I cannot by the shotgun does someone who has a sgc gift one to me or can my dad (doesn't have sgc) just buy one for me with me there with my certificate? SUBSCRIBED! !!
@srspower
@srspower 9 жыл бұрын
Your Dad can buy you one but he has to have a SGC. Thanks for the sub :)
@abseconPC
@abseconPC 8 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about moving to the UK the girl I'll be moving in with has a few shotguns do I need to get a shot gun license to go shooting with her
@abseconPC
@abseconPC 8 жыл бұрын
I also have a minor charge on my record from the United States over a BB gun it was under 12 foot pounds but in the state I was in all BB guns are bad
@srspower
@srspower 8 жыл бұрын
+Brett Duffy No you don't but you can apply for a license and keep your guns in her cabinet. I did a video on the application kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p51_f7iT16-XhZc.html
@abseconPC
@abseconPC 8 жыл бұрын
+srspower but if they are her guns then they are her guns and I can still use it
@abseconPC
@abseconPC 8 жыл бұрын
+Brett Duffy and do I have to still wait the 3 years after the felony charge even though it was in the United States only received probation and it was over a sub 12 foot pound air rifle Can you get antique replica Firearms there without a license or do they have to be original antique but then again I guess you control gunpowder and Pyrodex
@abseconPC
@abseconPC 8 жыл бұрын
+Brett Duffy and I guess if you don't have a gun safe would have secured room be okay with a no windows and locked securely
@araw540
@araw540 10 жыл бұрын
recommend saving to move to a more gun friendly EU country like Slovenia, Switzerland or czech republic, isle of man or the U.S
@srspower
@srspower 10 жыл бұрын
I hope too one day my friend :)
@weirdscience8341
@weirdscience8341 7 жыл бұрын
srspower same here lol honestly it's so hard to just enjoy the sport
@britishgamer666
@britishgamer666 4 жыл бұрын
Swiss are having their firearms cracked down on pretty hard.
@Artem_Chernyj
@Artem_Chernyj 2 жыл бұрын
In russia i hold my two AK just under the bed)
@srspower
@srspower 2 жыл бұрын
No you don’t, they are illegal in Russia.
@Artem_Chernyj
@Artem_Chernyj 2 жыл бұрын
@@srspower semi-auto AK or AR carabines are legal in original caliber
@freshfrozen3035
@freshfrozen3035 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t own any rifles or shotguns Not British
@boostedbilly7308
@boostedbilly7308 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus your laws are nuts
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