Atheism, true or not, in the end it doesn't matter: Atheism is not an ideology therefore to question whether it could be 'true or not' illustrates that you do not understand what atheism is. So your very Username is a badge of your ignorance and as such you will be ignored. And quite rightly too.

I will refute Richard Dawkins by using his own words. Richard Dawkins said that down syndrome children should be aborted. Richard Dawkins also said it is a privilege being alive. And we should try to learn as much of the universe in the short time we have before our eyes close forever. so for that reason it only makes sense to allow down syndrome children to live so they too can learn about the universe - albeit in a very limited capacity. now please don't confuse this by thinking i am against abortion. i am 100% in favour of abortion and i think you should be able to abort a baby for any reason at anytime. even if you wake up one day and say you know what fuck it. i dont feel like raising a kid. abort it. to my mind, that is valid. You may disagree with me. But atleast I am consistent in my way of thinking. It is very rare to see inconsistency in such high level intellectual like Dawkins. But it is interesting to point out to underscore the importance that no one is immune to a bad idea and we should always present our ideas to our peers with an open mind to give our selves the opportunity to learn and correct our errors.

Irreligion?

I think 95% of the people who come to this channel are already irreligious dude

"The bad things in religion are more bad than the good things in religion are good" This is the case because there are no good things in religion that are _unique_ to religion. It's not exactly a tough comparison when you're comparing against a big fat zero. Oh sure, religious people will _say_ they provide various good things, but every single one of them can be obtained, usually _better_, without religion in place, and often those services they provide are *in spite of* the religion's doctrines. Using one of their favorite examples: charity? Religious charities fund churches and preach to their intended victims using some of that money. The 'hope in the afterlife' or 'comfort about death'? Those are empty promises and outright lies that invent a problem and then sell a cure. The senses of community and belonging that come with church-going? Exclusive in-groups taught to hate the out-groups, which is why every single one of the 33,000 flavors of sects of christianity consider the other ones to be hell-bound, and that's just _hating each other_, nevermind the non-christians. The list goes on. Religion does no good at all. Of course they do more bad in the world.

that's because the answer you're looking for is the world would have been better if everyone was reasonable as opposed to not being reasonable which from most ppl i can see are not....

This whole elitist approach of atheists to ppl who choose to believe or have some spiritual faith is really tedious. As so many [atheists] attempt to demean theists, have you ever questioned that if indeed we are evolving, then why do so, so many human beings believe in (and possibly worship but not necessarily) God, Allah, or whomever? Evolution would SUPPORT that ideology that perpetuates is valid and of importance. I address this purely from a scientific pov. There are tribes in the Amazon who NEVER heard of God, Jesus or the Bible, who, when questioned, "What happens after we die?", replied by pointing to the heavens and offering similar thoughts about a soul and an afterlife. I cannot understand why this aspect of human beings and INDEPENDENT beliefs in a deity are just dismissed by atheists. It's like all critical thinking disappears with atheists which seems the epitome of hypocrisy imo. Let me add that I resent atheists demeaning non-atheists as much as I do an evangelical preacher telling me what to think. They are no different; really they are worse bc of the elitism and hypocritical behavior.

Eileen D The theory of evolution has to do with changes in biology. Believing in stupid bullshit has nothing to do with evolution. The reason atheists _seem_ "elitist" to theists is because theists speak a whole lot of crap without backing anything up and atheists have been asking them to back up their bullshit for centuries to no fucking effect. If you know someone who continuously drives their car into a ditch, at some point you're going to give off the impression to that inept driver that you think you're better than they are. The reason for that is *BECAUSE YOU ARE BETTER THAN THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY KEEP DRIVING INTO A FUCKING DITCH AND YOU DON'T.* "There are tribes in the Amazon who NEVER heard of God, Jesus or the Bible, who, when questioned, "What happens after we die?", replied by pointing to the heavens and offering similar thoughts about a soul and an afterlife." Name one. There's also a tribe that deconverted a missionary because they laughed at his stupid fucking face when he said there was an invisible man in the sky. The fact that ignorant primitives try to explain what they don't know by inventing fairytales doesn't make those fairytales anything more than stupid ignorant fairytales, dipshit. "Let me add that I resent atheists demeaning non-atheists as much as I do an evangelical preacher telling me what to think." The different, fuckwit, is that preachers tell you what to think, but atheists *JUST TELL YOU YOU THINK*. Comparing apples to oranges. You just drove the car into the ditch so many fucking times, kiddo.

I liked your avatar until I thought a little bit about it. The people who push the drug called religion never accurately represent members of the out-group. Imams would call you a dog or pig or monkey and accuse you of eating babies and feces of other men and a whole other list of complete nonsense. I'm just saying, if you fit the bill I need to go wash my hands.

***** The reason they do it is because I really don't give a shit about their holy book, sky daddy and their customs. For I am independent thought and there is NOTHING they can do about me. They won't silence me with threats, nor bombings, nor guns. Humans live and die, but ideas survive through the generations and they know that our principles and ideas are a threat to theirs. They've lost the argument and they know it.

233kosta No, I get that part. But I imagine you don't eat babies and fornicate with dogs or whatever stupid bullshit religious people always make up about their enemies because if they ever presented an honest case they'd lose converts. I mean, to make an analogy, bacon _alone_ would probably deconvert a large portion of muslims if they ever tasted the stuff, so of course it's "actually" super disgusting because pork goes bad instantly like Mohammed warned and eating it makes you a bad person and dooms your soul to hell and therefore etc etc etc.. when in reality bacon's just tasty food. I'm just saying *nobody* is the infidel imams warn muslims about because *that* "infidel" is a complete fiction of black propaganda meant to demonize and drive up hatred and fear of enemies like those World War 2 propaganda posters where the Chinese enemy has giant buckteeth and squinty eyes etc. Which is nitpicking a bit, I am aware.

***** Yeh, I get your point and I'm happy to admit I'm totally taking the piss. If a baby eating dog fucker is what these people see in an infidel, then I'll be the most convincing baby eating dog fucker out there! Maybe it'll get the point across... or maybe not, I really don't care. At this point I'm out there for a laugh at islam's expense and it's yet to fail to amuse me. I'm also looking for various other ways to offend the easily offended (perhaps an infidel hat? Or a _patriarchy_ shirt?), so if you have any ideas - fire away!

I take it you are unaware of **psychological projection**! Most atheists critically use scientific or historical evidence as a basis for their thinking. It is the religious who " just parrot what other people say", and uncritically accept what they are told on "faith"!