Technically, the Arcadian hero, Evander, is considered, according to Roman mythology, the one who built the first settlement, the so called city of Pallantium on the future site of Palatine Hill, sixty years before the Trojan War, in the region that later will be built Rome, sixty years before the Trojan War. Evander was considered the one who instituted the festival of the Lupercalia. The name Lupercalia was believed in antiquity to evince some connection with the Ancient Greek festival of the Arcadian Lykaia, a wolf festival (Greek: λύκος, lýkos; Latin: lupus), and the worship of Lycaean Pan.

Pelasgians, Ilyrians, Thracians etc are decendants of Troy

Not to mention that this is THE SAME PARIS that defeated Hector before the trojan war

And Menelaus isn't even their best. Without Achilles, there's Diomedes, Ajax and Agamemnon.

Menelaus cannot shout "this is sparta", their people are slaves to the true spartans.

HECK YA THE WHOLE ILLIAD IS EPIC OF THE BEAST SCALE NEXT LEVEL.

Didn't he ran away when Apollo appeared before him? Heck he didn't even have the guts to fight Artemis

@@reader7508 I really don't remember him not wanting to face Artemis, but even if he was, he was the only mortal to wound 2 gods

😂😂😂😂I’m weak

That is one perverted view you got there.

Bruh

He was a favorite of Athena, he knew she had his back. Diomedes was a beast

@@antonius.martinus I would also love to be included in this series, the scene of the encounter of Diomedes and Glaucus. It's one of the most beautiful scenes in Iliad, when Diomedes and Glaucus are ready to fight each other, Diomedes asked the other warrior's name, and when Glaucus revealed his name and his lineage from the great hero Bellerephon, Diomedes answered, "we cannot fight because your grandfather was guest of my own grandfather, so we are linked by the sacred law of hospitality". Diomedes and Glaucus then lowed their weapons, and they embraced, in the middle of the battlefield, exchanged gifts as symbol of friendship, and swear to never fight each other for the rest of their lives. It's one of the greatest moments which shows how honourable Diomedes was.

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Yea I believe he was second only to Achilles....a very close second

@@hollismarshall Yeah, there was nobody above Diomedes in skill, besides Achilles, and it was said that the Troyans started to fear him in his rage more than they feared Achilles

Except they wouldn't be

More badass? Yes! More feared? Nah... Achilles was like the boogeyman to the Trojan, his voice alone makes everyone tremble after Patroclus's death, no one can top that

@Savage Darksider Considering the fate of Troy that is an understatement.

@@stevengreen9536 I would rather have gone with either Athena or Hera.

sometimes i wish there was a picture of her irl, just to see if she was "worth" going to war for (of course she wasnt but still)

@@jmpm-tz1so It doesn't matter how she looks i'm not going to go to war over one woman.

That’s the fun part. There is no right answer.

Read mahabharat n ramayan it's the father of all these stories

Menelaos promised that he will offer a great sacrifice to the goddess of love if she will help him by getting Helene's hand in marriage. Aphrodite kept her word but Menelaos didn't keep his so the goddess punished him by giving Helene to Paris.

@@marian1000brb yeah but menelaus and agamemnon are such imposing figures lol, very cool

@@asherdayne6157 Agamemnon was selfish and did everything to have power, so selfish that he almost sacrificed his own daughter, not for his brother's honor but for the Troy's treasure. He was killed by Clitemnestra for he took her only daughter. Even Zeus says that Hera and Athena just look at him without helping him and smile while Aphrodite went to the battlefield to save his enemy.

@@marian1000brb Wait hold on, when did Menelaos promise that he will offer a great sacrifice to the goddess of love? When did this happen?

@@truthspreader1996 Sparta, Lakedaimonia (Southern Greece) Ptolemy Hephaestion, New History Book 4 (summary from Photius, Myriobiblon 190) (trans. Pearse) (Greek mythographer C1st to C2nd A.D.) : "It is said, following the resentment of Aphrodite against Menelaos who had arranged the abduction of Helene: he had promised a hecatomb to Aphrodite as the price of the marriage, and didn't offer it."

probably both

@Mulan Nera I thought Ares was the patron god of Sparta

Paris broke his marriage oath to his wife Oenone (Hera was the goddess of marriage) and dissed Hera by saying Aphrodite was hotter then her, Greek deities held grudges for much less.

I always thought both

Except actually acts like two side of the same coin, and not inherently evil.

Supposedly they were but many think they were argonauts at the time either Jason which is why Helen didn’t see them with the other greeks

Jason's voyage happened long before Troy. As a young man, Nestor joined the Argonauts along with Castor & Pollux. At Troy, Nestor was the oldest and wisest. You can say that around 50 yrs had past. Illiad states that the twins were already dead by the time of Troy. And it makes sense. Were they alive, as princes of Sparta, one of them would have been king, instead of Menalaus, who is a foreigner from Mycenae.

The one who fought Hector was Achilles! Not Menelaus! And Hector himself was scared when he stood before Achilles.

It's confused too. Looks like the life as prince weakened Páris

Paris is nerfed to be only a clown and coward by many story teller. In original Iliad, although he is not bravest warrior, he is the one that proposed to duel with menelaus for ending the war and still be the best archer of Troy. He killed many greek warriors in war and fought in the front-line with his brother, Hector.

I sympathize with your disdain for Aphrodite and Paris.

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Paris was never specially strong tough, also, Paris atole Helen while Menelaus was away, dude knew he had no chance to beat him on a fight.

When did he beat hector?

@@Mathematik_Anhaenger in the tournament, when he was a shepheard and wanted to win his bull back,

@@fatjonmyftari7475 Can’t find it, do you have a source?

@@Mathematik_Anhaenger dude watch the previous video

The famous Spartan warriors were Dorians. This siege takes place at least a century before the Doric invasion. These Spartans are therefore of Mycenaean culture, not those Spartans famous for their prowess in battle.

Sarcasm?

He was

Oh he was

Both: Athena, Poseidon and Hera were on the side of the Greeks. Aphrodite, Ares, Artemis and Apollo were on the side of the Trojans.

Why Achilles can't be black ? .. it's not like 90% of the ppl in that time wasn't black .. it actually make sense

@@DarrellDaEmperorCeasar Because every piece of art depicts him as a white and blonde man. There were black people at that time, but Achilles was not one of them. If there was a possibility that he was black, then some ancient paintings or sculptures would have depicted him in that way

@@DarrellDaEmperorCeasar except that Achilles had blond hair

Clearly pandering and virtue signaling to say see we love black people by having one play a character that clearly isn’t black

@The Man 316 Achilles, in the texts, is a red head.

Why Cassandra?

@@takeshi1899 Because she should have did what Apollo told her to do and because his consort.

@Savage Darksider Who wants to become the consort of Olympus' second biggest man-child? She would have died, because 99% of Apollo's lovers died.

@Savage Darksider Are you biased against women? Do you think women are just toys to men?

There was a way for Cassandra to outright the curse placed by Apollo: instead of using her mouth, she would've simply written everything she predicted!

Murst?