Despina - The Abandoned Daughter of Demeter - The Winter Goddess of Greek Mythology

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Despina - The Abandoned Daughter of Demeter - The Winter Goddess of Greek Mythology - See U in History
Art: Marcus Aquino
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@tedhubertcrusio372
@tedhubertcrusio372 Жыл бұрын
Disney: *portrays Hades as evil* Actual Greek mythology: *Poseidon is a shitlord*
@J1P2K
@J1P2K Жыл бұрын
All the Greek gods are shitlords in one way or another.
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz Жыл бұрын
Despina is also evil for creating winter
@Scp-682_hard_to_kill_reptile
@Scp-682_hard_to_kill_reptile Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Zeus and other shitlords in Panthéon.😉
@tedhubertcrusio372
@tedhubertcrusio372 Жыл бұрын
@@Scp-682_hard_to_kill_reptile Hephaestus, Hermes, Apollo, Boreas and Dionysus are the only Greek gods who don't intend on shitting on other people.
@yukishiro3287
@yukishiro3287 Жыл бұрын
@@tedhubertcrusio372 Pretty sure if memory serves right, Apollo also had his own share. This guy did offend people and he had left descendants too
@vginsprdsobepr9698
@vginsprdsobepr9698 Жыл бұрын
That's a happy ending. Despite being rejected by by both parents, Despina was able to befriend her Sister and bag herself a compatible and loving husband.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Sadly half of this myth was completely made up. Despoina wasn't a winter goddess, she didn't destroy Demeter's crops, she wasn't married to Boreas and she wasn't "neglected and and angry". The only myths she is in is the story of how Poseidon assaulted Demeter while she was mourning and searching for Persephone and where Demeter entrusts an minor oceanic god to raise and take care of Despoina just like Demeter and her sisters were fostered by some Titan's during the titanomachy. Otherwise we know nothing of her, we don't even know what her role was in Demeter's cult or what she even was the goddess of
@vginsprdsobepr9698
@vginsprdsobepr9698 Жыл бұрын
@@parentalfigure2511 So most of it was made up? I guess it's ok if it were explained to be completely fictional.
@serronserron1320
@serronserron1320 Жыл бұрын
@@parentalfigure2511 There are multiple versions of Greek mythology that varied from city-state and the time period in Greece.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
@@serronserron1320 I am well aware that there are different variations and versions of myths depending on the region. What's your point? There is no classical text, evidence or proof of almost anything in this video. The only things we know of Despoina was what I listed in my comment, unless you can cite a classical source that proves that Despoina was a vengeful goddess of winter, married to the god of winter that kills her mother's crops cause Demeter hated her?
@genesismultiverse4896
@genesismultiverse4896 11 ай бұрын
Actually it's despoina but yeah it shows great sisterhood of Elsa and anna
@alexandriaceballos1938
@alexandriaceballos1938 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see Persephone dose acknowledge Despina, and despite being the favorite daughter even that can be suffocating to where the mother wants you to be a child forever and not be your own person. Yeah, Demeter was terrible to both of them.
@patrickd.3681
@patrickd.3681 Жыл бұрын
That’s probably one of the things they bonded over.
@jamesmadison7551
@jamesmadison7551 Жыл бұрын
ya, I can understand here perspective as well, the mother but, it seems the ultimate fault is Poseidon.
@annettemalaski1967
@annettemalaski1967 Жыл бұрын
I am just glad Despina found love and acceptance!
@dishamahesh1112
@dishamahesh1112 Жыл бұрын
I feel like demeter was actually a kind godess (compared to others) but a bad mother...
@Rabid_Nationalist
@Rabid_Nationalist Жыл бұрын
@@patrickd.3681 yep
@bentowers7743
@bentowers7743 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad Despina has a good relationship with her half-sister and that she got herself a loving husband.
@christianmoralesortiz4688
@christianmoralesortiz4688 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, at least she has a good ending.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
We don't know if she does cause we literally only have the myth about Despoinas birth while Demeter was looking for Persephone and her Demeter giving her to a minor oceanic god to be raised. Otherwise we know nothing about her, she's not even the goddess of winter, we don't know what she was the goddess of! The crops dying were because of Demeter not "Despoinas rage at her being neglected"
@madamkoifish
@madamkoifish Жыл бұрын
Me too. A beautiful story about sisterly love.
@jagirl966
@jagirl966 Жыл бұрын
Some historians think Despina and Persephone were the same goddess. After some time, they became separate deities.
@Alexandraadftxr7052
@Alexandraadftxr7052 Жыл бұрын
There is a really big posability for this. Persephone was also referd to as Despina, and Kore.
@avalasialove
@avalasialove Жыл бұрын
I heard that from OSP’s video about Hades and Persephone. It’s almost like Persephone was worshipped in a particular group and her true name wasn’t allowed to be used outside of said group.
@magda1662
@magda1662 Жыл бұрын
No wonder the name Despina seemed so familiar...
@carlotamatos4157
@carlotamatos4157 Жыл бұрын
In Osp red said her name was despoina a bit different
@DiceWarwick
@DiceWarwick Жыл бұрын
As far as I can tell, and what I have seen. Persephone and Despina are in fact the same goddess, along with Kore, which is the polite name you use when talking about Persephone. It feels that Persephone and her mother likely predate the Olympian gods and whent through a lot of changes as the generations of story tellers whent on. This version is likely to explain Poseidon's connection as he was originally the one who took Persephone not Hades, as Poseidon was both king of the sea and underworld. So when Hades rose to be the king of the underworld, he also gained the story with Persephone. Likely the Poseidon part was then shifted to that of being the father of Persephone, then later when it was retold that Zuse was the father, then did they take the name of Despina and made it into a new Goddess.
@EastJazzman
@EastJazzman Жыл бұрын
Nice to see a happy ending in a Greek legend for a change, a lonely and neglectful daughter, finds a man to love and forms a loving sibling relationship with her sister.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
And non of it actually happens in actually Greek mythology. Half of this was made up
@omegon2540
@omegon2540 Жыл бұрын
Hades , looking at his siblings Posiden: had control issues Zeus: father of pretty much half of Greek characters Hera: hates the formers habits but doesn’t blame him for them and screws over people Demeter: obssesoce and neglective parent Edit : I know I forgot hestia, but she’s too sensible for those shenanigans Edit 2 : aparantly my Olympian roast has turned into a hestia love pool
@WraythSkitzofrenik
@WraythSkitzofrenik Жыл бұрын
Hades= best boy
@josefebahan9586
@josefebahan9586 Жыл бұрын
You forgot Hestia
@doncalicula7938
@doncalicula7938 Жыл бұрын
@@josefebahan9586 And Chiron
@omegon2540
@omegon2540 Жыл бұрын
Woops
@Alexandraadftxr7052
@Alexandraadftxr7052 Жыл бұрын
Hestia: Best girl, cinamon roll, deservs the best.
@LiliLili-dv4qc
@LiliLili-dv4qc Жыл бұрын
I am glad to see someone who knows the story of this godess! Despina (Despinis) means in greek mistress. Greetings from România! 🇹🇩
@escapistfromhell1543
@escapistfromhell1543 Жыл бұрын
la fel și eu. Despina e frecvent ignorată și nu mulți sunt cei care știu de existența ei
@LiliLili-dv4qc
@LiliLili-dv4qc Жыл бұрын
Mă bucur că încă mai sunt oameni de bine interesați de miturile Greciei antice! O zi bună și frumoasă ca binecuvîntatele zile de demult ale Heladei vă doresc!
@theofairy4077
@theofairy4077 Жыл бұрын
Yep,we had a ruler's wife, Doamna Despina ^_^ , her namesake and wife to Neagoe Basarab^_^ if im right
@escapistfromhell1543
@escapistfromhell1543 Жыл бұрын
@@LiliLili-dv4qc Hobby-ul meu este mitologia de orice fel, am Inceput cu mitologia greaca si am trecut la mitologiile nordica, egipteana si azteca ca si favorite. Si oricate carti as lua cu acest subiect tot timpul mai descopar cate o zeitate noua iar la egipteni si azteci sunt cu sutele dar in ce priveste mitologia greaca sunt cam putine lucruri noi pe care le descopar .
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Bro, half of this myth doesn't even exist
@morrismurimi3965
@morrismurimi3965 Жыл бұрын
Demeter: turns into a horse. Poseidon: jokes on you I'm into that
@efraim3364
@efraim3364 Жыл бұрын
*Loki has left the chat*
@Rcampo42
@Rcampo42 Жыл бұрын
Proof Greeks were into the ungodly
@George-Hawthorne
@George-Hawthorne Жыл бұрын
Should have turned into a Preying Mantis.
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz Жыл бұрын
@@George-Hawthorne and you just won the internet
@higonakamura1236
@higonakamura1236 Жыл бұрын
@@George-Hawthorne Or a Black Widow.
@SuperUniverse
@SuperUniverse Жыл бұрын
This is the closest thing to having a happy marriage for GREEK GODS
@randomyoutuber3826
@randomyoutuber3826 Жыл бұрын
Eros and Pysche though :/
@jessnalulila5709
@jessnalulila5709 Жыл бұрын
Dionysus and Ariadne
@ghio43
@ghio43 Жыл бұрын
Also Hephaestus and his second wife, Aglaea/Aglaia
@SuperUniverse
@SuperUniverse Жыл бұрын
@@randomyoutuber3826 Eros DEFINITELY one of the best ships of greek mythology :)
@degeneratesupreme860
@degeneratesupreme860 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperUniverse wow I was literally watching one of your videos like 5 minutes ago
@Wykletypl
@Wykletypl Жыл бұрын
I am surprised Demeter bothered to give her unwanted daughter a name. Considering she never wanted her.
@sarahgilliss3503
@sarahgilliss3503 Жыл бұрын
"Despina." Perhaps the inspiration for the word despised??
@tinaherr3856
@tinaherr3856 Жыл бұрын
@@sarahgilliss3503 or perhaps "despair"
@tainii-san5879
@tainii-san5879 Жыл бұрын
I think it's a title more so than a name.
@dreamalchemy4380
@dreamalchemy4380 Жыл бұрын
@@sarahgilliss3503 despina/despoina meant mistress. persephone and her were once the same goddess it's just that over time, they separated into different deities
@XxMasterPt
@XxMasterPt Жыл бұрын
@@tainii-san5879 It is a title, but she does have a true name, though it's not known to others (outside of her cult I think)
@J1P2K
@J1P2K Жыл бұрын
I'm happy that she was able to find someone that loved her for who she was.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
She didn't, cause we literally know nothing about her
@J1P2K
@J1P2K Жыл бұрын
@@parentalfigure2511 That just means we can give her the life we wish for her.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
@@J1P2K So changing the entire Greek culture and religion? Boreas has a wife, there are already a bunch of deities responsible for the seasons and there is already a reason for Demeters crops dying during winter
@Floweramon
@Floweramon Жыл бұрын
Boreas wasn't married to her, he was husband of Oreithyia of Athens. And that's the least of the inaccuracies in this video
@yura4529
@yura4529 Жыл бұрын
@@Floweramon Well, you realise there are different versions of the same myths. Just because you know one version does not invalidate the other version this video may be based off of, so before you call any myth 'inaccurate' do take in consideration it may not be the variation you know. :)
@lucasgray1492
@lucasgray1492 Жыл бұрын
A lot of myths I’ve read suggest Despina and Persephone were the same person. In Mycenaean Greek mythology, didn’t have a Hades but rather a Persephone and Demeter. It was stated that Persephone was Poiseidon’s and Demeter’s child as Poseidon was actually king of the gods in Mycanaean Greek culture rather than Zeus. Then later on Zeus was switched in the mythos as being king. In Mycanaean Greece Persephone was often categorized as the same person as Despoina. This suggests that originally the mythos was that they were on person and then in later years as mythos and stories were lost Persephone and Despoina were separated. On top of that Hades didn’t exist in Mycanaean Greek myth instead only Poseidon and Zeus did. Zeus was the god of the Sky but Poseidon was the god of the dead, the sea, and the king. And the earlier depictions of Persephone suggest she was always a goddess of death and not just from her marriage in later mythos to Hades.
@anaritagomesbarbara174
@anaritagomesbarbara174 Жыл бұрын
while Zeus had a tendency to sleep with everything that moved, Poseidon had a tendency to not understanding what NO means...
@starkilr101
@starkilr101 Жыл бұрын
Well, at least she found happiness and thankfully Persephone is good. Hades’ grace must’ve rubbed off on her
@evep6886
@evep6886 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, fk that one disney movie, Hades is the best guy in the Pantheon
@starkilr101
@starkilr101 Жыл бұрын
@@evep6886 I agree, but James Woods is too enjoyable to hate him in that role. And Ralph Fiennes looked badass
@sifilore9462
@sifilore9462 Жыл бұрын
Kind of like Elsa and Anna. An ice girl with a lively sister. Their sisterly love would heal all their heartaches.
@patrickd.3681
@patrickd.3681 Жыл бұрын
Good comparison.
@rebekahredd5545
@rebekahredd5545 Жыл бұрын
"An act of true love will thaw a frozen heart."
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, would've been cool if we had a source to half of this myth. Only Despoina's birth myth and her being fostered by an minor oceanic god is mentioned in myth. We literally don't even know what she was the goddess of
@leirelarrakoetxea5747
@leirelarrakoetxea5747 Жыл бұрын
Despina deserves the world
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
We really don't know if she does
@TheRoseAlchemist
@TheRoseAlchemist Жыл бұрын
I've never heard this story before, I always love to hear the more obscure ones! And it goes to show people with opposite opinions/jobs/etc. really CAN get along successfully and be respectful to each other if they make an effort.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Theres no evidence for Despoina hating her mother, being the goddess of winter or even being married to Boreas. Boreas is married to Khione. Despoina was given to a minor titan deity to be raised while Demeter continued her search for Persephone. Otherwise we have nothing about Despoina, not even her true name or her domain besides the mysteries of the Eleusinian mysteries. Most of the content in this video was made up for views, there's no basis for in in classical mythology
@Nickle_King
@Nickle_King Жыл бұрын
People talk about how terrible Zeus and Poseidon can be, and I’m certainly not saying they aren’t, but people tend to forget how terrible Demeter and the rest of the female gods can be too. Demeter never (to the best of my knowledge) acknowledged Despina, which caused trauma to her and death on a massive scale. Athena created Medusa (although, depending on which version of that tale you believe actually makes sense, if any of them, this could have been a blessing), Aphrodite and her MANY petty, torturous, spiteful plans. Oh. And for those people who are going to say “Demeter was hurt, that makes it ok/understandable,” sorry, no. There is not a god in that pantheon that hasn’t had to deal with trauma, and still do his or her’s job. Demeter is the only one who neglects her duties every year because of “empty nest syndrome.” Causing winter to happen in an age before central heating spoiled humanity can not be explained away with Separation Anxiety. To be clear. It’s not that I don’t sympathize with her. It’s the double standard I hate.
@jessnalulila5709
@jessnalulila5709 Жыл бұрын
Athena cursed a flute because playing it made her cheeks look puffy
@emperorrasheed4177
@emperorrasheed4177 Жыл бұрын
I’m upset that you mention female gods being petty and horrible and didn’t mention Hera
@efaristi9737
@efaristi9737 Жыл бұрын
Athena didn't created Medusa except in the romans myths were she is used as a criticism for the emperor court. You also have to remember that the Greeks didn't have the same perception of traumas, if any, than us nor did they even think that marrying girls against their consent was bad. The gods are not ideals or models to follow, they are embodiement of reality. Since reality is mostly harsh and terrible, so must be the gods that incarnate it.
@efaristi9737
@efaristi9737 Жыл бұрын
@@jessnalulila5709 I think she just rejected it.
@zyannegabrielle5928
@zyannegabrielle5928 Жыл бұрын
Hestia tho...
@katelynmain7968
@katelynmain7968 Жыл бұрын
I knew Arion was born from the unwanted union but never knew about Despina. Poor Demeter and Medusa fell victim to male cruelty
@AYAM.M
@AYAM.M 8 ай бұрын
not medusa
@tomfitzpatrick7335
@tomfitzpatrick7335 4 ай бұрын
By the same God! Poseidon!
@revanius2213
@revanius2213 Жыл бұрын
Well at least there is a few cases of godly siblings having a positive relationship, don't get too many of those
@sleeplesssongbird7625
@sleeplesssongbird7625 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to say that this is probably a debatable version of the story and at best still is very misinforming as Despoina is a character from the Mycenaean era. In Mycenaean Greece, Despoina is thought to be the original version of Persephone much in the same way Pan is Hermes-- Despoina was often referenced as Persephone or "the maiden" (Kore) because people were afraid of grabbing her attention. Poseidon didn't force himself on Demeter by most accounts of the known stories of the Mycanaean era, although a lot of the myths lines are blurred thanks to time, but it is known he was considered the Lord of the Underworld and sea and the two were amicably married, at least at first, although in fairness, not much is known about the percieved personalities of most of the Pantheon from that time. It was when Classical Greeks rewrote the Pantheon that a:) Zeus, who had previously been a minor diety by Mycanaean standards became king of the gods and top D-bag, Poseidon got downgraded to the Sea God and Hades replaced both Demeter and Despoina as a Death God (at least until Persephine became his queen in later stories.) Their personalities are definitely more twisted in the "newer" classical Greek myths by comparison to Mycanaean Greece, given how their culture and society sadly came to view women over time. As for the bit about Persephone and Despoina becoming friends-- that sounds more like it was pulled from Eastern European Mythos about a different pair of sister goddesses if I'm being honest. What was the source for this?
@avalasialove
@avalasialove Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is probably a made-up story. But it’s fun anyway.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
@@avalasialove Yeah but it still spreads misinformation about and actual culture and it's gods, religiion and theology
@rashakor
@rashakor Жыл бұрын
I also don't fail to notice that the name Despina sounds similar to Proserpina (roman Persephone).
@Cristina-bz5db
@Cristina-bz5db Жыл бұрын
What is the source of this story? "Despoina" is a generic term to define several female divinities: Artemis, Hecate, Demeter ... Including Persephone. The latter refers to the temple of Despoina in Lykosoura, in which the goddess has been assimilated into a native one. Cambridge University has a database on this. No authoritative or ancient source speaks of this divinity. I'd like to know the source, thanks! Excuse me if my English is not good: it is not my native language and I had to use Google to write this message 😅😂
@KT-wv2io
@KT-wv2io Жыл бұрын
There is evidence that. while searching for Persephone after she was stolen, Demeter was r*ped by Poseidon (who was possibly a horse-shaped diety of the Underworld/Underworld river in very early stories (Poseidon was in the place of Hades before the Greek Dark ages, Hades appeared in texts afterward)) and gave birth to Despoina and her twin brother Arion (horse). Originally, according to some sources, they were both horses. Either way, there is evidence that there were three goddesses, the clearest source I can think of being Pausanias. He said that Kore (meaning "girl", essentially) was Persephone (you don't say her name because she's SCARY (scarier than Hades if you believe Orpheus)) and he did not identify Despoina's name. The only ones allowed to say Despoina's name were initiated into her cult, so no one actually knows the name. This leads ME to believe that she not any goddess we know the name of, but I suppose she could be. Either way, she isn't Persephone because they explicitly have different dads (Zeus and Poseidon). Theoretically, she could be anyone with Poseidon for a dad. No matter what, mythology was never stagnant so she could be a million different goddess, existing now or not. Also, your English seems great.
@Cristina-bz5db
@Cristina-bz5db Жыл бұрын
@@KT-wv2io Thank you very much for the final compliment and for the information given. Carrying out a search on the figure of Arion, I found what you said, also the quotations from Pausanias. I didn't find the story that is specifically told in the video, but as you said there are infinite variations of the same myth. Where I live (Italy) the myths even change from city to city. In Sicily there was a strong cult of Persephone, who would have united with Zeus. In the country where I live even in the affair between Adonis and Aphrodite Artemis is "thrown in the middle". For the common imagination, she would be the last deity to think about such intrigues 😂
@KT-wv2io
@KT-wv2io Жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling me about Sicily! I'd love to look into that. Persephone is my favorite!
@davina3358
@davina3358 Жыл бұрын
She was never abandoned by Demeter! She has her own cult, worshipped alongside her mother and sister, and her real name is never revealed except to those initiated in her mysteries. Despina/Despoina/Despoena are just titles meaning mistress.
@takeandbakejake3271
@takeandbakejake3271 Жыл бұрын
I love how Arion exits the story immediately
@emilybramstedt9710
@emilybramstedt9710 Жыл бұрын
He did this with Medusa too. And someone else I think. It’s so strange because I grew up idolizing Poseidon and especially from the Percy jackson series and other things. Maybe not all stories are true in Greek mythology, but it still hurts a lot realizing as an adult what he did. So now I don’t know how to feel because I don’t know if they are true or false, so I have mixed feelings but i guess we’ll never know
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Medusas transformation into a monster is a Roman myth. The only thing they say about it in Greek mythology is that they laid in a field of flowers. Some historians did suggest that Demeter Erinyes an her assault by Poseidon may of been the blueprint for the Medusa myth. As Demeter turns into a mare headed snake haired monster that terrorizes towns and cities and starved the world
@lukevogtperez7067
@lukevogtperez7067 Жыл бұрын
This isn't a real myth. They completely made it up. I have no problem with them writing their own mythological fan-fics, but I don't think it's ok that they're trying to peddle it as facts belonging to the real surviving mythology. The only real things we basically now about Despoina is the myth of her conception, that she had a mystery cult in Arcadia, that her statue was represented as veiled and that she was probably a local version of Persephone. The whole Boreas thing and goddess of winter nonsense was just purely made up by them 😠
@AhmedBalahim
@AhmedBalahim 3 ай бұрын
They are going with the interpretation where despoina and oreithyia are the same goddess
@insanemakaioshin
@insanemakaioshin Жыл бұрын
I think you got girls mixed up. I couldn't find anything on Boreas with Despoina. Oreithyia was his wife that he kidnapped & had children with.
@crystalblunt192
@crystalblunt192 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad she managed to find love and be close with her sister.
@mama-guro.loves.papa-guro
@mama-guro.loves.papa-guro Жыл бұрын
I'm glad Despina found someone who can love her indefinitely.
@martintinajero9140
@martintinajero9140 Жыл бұрын
Think would be nice and interesting to see another Aphrodite and Adonis in this artwork.
@efaristi9737
@efaristi9737 Жыл бұрын
Interesting tale, where does your sources come from? what i found about Despina doesn't cover half of this video and only mention her as a goddess that no one speak the name, not as a goddess of winter. The Seasons have their own goddesses and it's neither Kore or Despina but the Horae.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, they just made half of this up!
@BlueGemini313
@BlueGemini313 Жыл бұрын
Is there a source for this? Despoina is a goddess from Arcadia and is commonly seen as a daughter of Demeter and Poseidon, but I don't think 'Despina' is a real goddess.
@vianeyvasquez1713
@vianeyvasquez1713 Жыл бұрын
Wow amazing didn't know that part about Greek history 😳
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Cause it doesn't exist
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
They made up half of this video
@Floweramon
@Floweramon Жыл бұрын
Because it's all made up, almost all this video is inaccurate
@glowworm2
@glowworm2 Жыл бұрын
This is a Greek goddess I've actually never heard of. How sweet is her relationship between Persephone and Boreas though?
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
She wasn't married to Boreas, she wasn't the goddess of winter, she wasn't cruelly abandoned by Demeter and she wasn't angry or vengeful. The only myths about her is her birth where Poseidon assaults a mourning grieving Demeter while she was searching for Persephone and where Demeter entrusts an minor rustic oceanic god to raise and take care of Despoina just like Demeter and her sisters were fostered by some Titans during the titanomachy. We literally know nothing about despoina or her role in the religion, we don't even know her real name
@dreademperor2094
@dreademperor2094 Жыл бұрын
@@parentalfigure2511 alright we get it
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@lilitharam44
@lilitharam44 Жыл бұрын
At least she found love and reunited with her sister. Maybe she even reunited with her mother eventually. What was the winged horses name? I've never heard of him.
@jessnalulila5709
@jessnalulila5709 Жыл бұрын
Arion, I believe
@lilitharam44
@lilitharam44 Жыл бұрын
@@jessnalulila5709 Thanks!
@leirelarrakoetxea5747
@leirelarrakoetxea5747 Жыл бұрын
What would she want nothing to do with Demeter
@avalasialove
@avalasialove Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see her reunite with Demeter. Despite how the myth paints her, I don’t think she was the bad guy. It’s more likely that she was in shock as a result of her trauma and never learned to deal with it properly.
@Floweramon
@Floweramon Жыл бұрын
@@leirelarrakoetxea5747 Almost all of this video is inaccurate and not how the myth actually is
@russergee49
@russergee49 Жыл бұрын
I can’t find these myths in any Ancient Greek sources, anyone have a source for all of this? The only stuff I’ve found is that Despina/Despoina/Despoine was the daughter of Demeter and Poseidon, and that she was worshipped heavily in Arkadia. No mention of being abandoned by Demeter, meeting Persephone, being Boreas’ wife, causing winter/freezing….
@jessnalulila5709
@jessnalulila5709 Жыл бұрын
And I'm almost sure Boreas married Oreithia, not Despoina
@Initiallyleo
@Initiallyleo Жыл бұрын
The Percy Jackson wiki is really the only place where I found more or less matching details (under the name Despoina in the character list), and it wasn’t a 100% match. Most mythology sites don’t seem to have this story at all, or just fragments of the story told in this video.
@cemetiere
@cemetiere Жыл бұрын
Her name isn't known,the despoina thingy is just her title not her actual name,there was a cult in arkadia that addresses her as despoina,means mistress. Her true name are only given to those who worshiped her. Maybe everything about her is unknown since she isn't famous enough,and maybe that's what she really is,mystery. If i were a demigod,i want her to be my godly parent,she's snow,secret,shadow almost everything I love.
@russergee49
@russergee49 Жыл бұрын
@@cemetiere That’s a good point, that what we call her isn’t even her name, which we don’t know. As for the snow thing, that’s one of the things mentioned in this video that I can’t find a source for, none of the Ancient Greek authors say anything about that. I can’t really speak to Percy Jackson, as I don’t read those books.
@cemetiere
@cemetiere Жыл бұрын
@@russergee49 Yeah,it's a such a confusing situation where we don't know anything about something,persephone as spring goddess and despoina as winter might just really a thing about siblings in greek myths,y'know like anteros and eros,unrequited and requited love,always opposite,and the other is the favorite.
@soul8938
@soul8938 Жыл бұрын
Who else thought the baby in the thumbnail had a mustache 👨🏻
@kezhiahnebula
@kezhiahnebula Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha 😂
@devpriyashedha2537
@devpriyashedha2537 Жыл бұрын
You're videos are really good
@N2Deep00
@N2Deep00 Жыл бұрын
Demeter: I turned into a horse to escape Poseidon Loki: I also turned into a horse
@Initiallyleo
@Initiallyleo Жыл бұрын
Could we get the source material for this one? I’d love to read it, because it’s an interesting story. I know what happened with Poseidon and Demeter was in the myths, and some mention an abandoned child and a horse child, but I can’t find the rest of the story as you told it (apart from on the Percy Jackson wiki under Despoina, which does give some details).
@XxMasterPt
@XxMasterPt Жыл бұрын
Sorry to tell you, but this story is not necessarily "accurate" in terms of Greek Mythology. Despoine is the daughter of Demeter and Poseidon yes but there is not much to her story besides that. She is said to have been an Arcadian Goddess of Mysteries--her name Despoine is just a title and not her real name, and the only person (aside from her mother) that had anything to do with her was a rustic god (or Titan?) by the name Anytos who took care of her when she was younger.
@chrystianaw8256
@chrystianaw8256 Жыл бұрын
@@XxMasterPt exactly
@humblemarty
@humblemarty Жыл бұрын
I like that Despina found happiness.
@stephenwhitacre5208
@stephenwhitacre5208 4 ай бұрын
A nice interesting story. I am glad this goddess was able to find peace, healing, and love.
@aryabartarout5697
@aryabartarout5697 Жыл бұрын
Zeus(Rain) + Demeter(Crops) = Persephone(Spring) Poseidon(Flood) + Demeter(Crops) = Despina(Winter)
@fairyencyclopedia
@fairyencyclopedia 7 ай бұрын
I don't usually enjoy Greek myths but this one was really good. Also I love the art in your videos. It's really great. It could be like a graphic novel series
@MatthewBrown-bf5lz
@MatthewBrown-bf5lz 5 ай бұрын
I'm 38 and I've loved mythology all my life. It's amazing that I can still learn about interesting gods and goddesses that I've never heard of. Plus I've always loved Ice and winter based powers. So when I saw a Greek goddess of winter.. instant click to watch lol.
@faryndoodle
@faryndoodle Жыл бұрын
Very cool to learn about this! Also, those collar bones are POPPIN’
@cyrilmarasigan7108
@cyrilmarasigan7108 Жыл бұрын
I am really happy that she found peace and happiness
@aubreyyoung6664
@aubreyyoung6664 Жыл бұрын
I really liked that. Persephone really cared for Despina despite their opposite nature’s.
@jasminkrieger8464
@jasminkrieger8464 Жыл бұрын
They forgot arion through
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
We don't know what Despoina's nature was. She wasn't the goddess of winter, she wasn't married to Boreas, she doesn't destroy Demeters crops and she wasn't angry or neglected. The only myths she appears in the story if her birth where Poseidon assaults a mourning grieving Demeter while she was looking for Persephone and where Demeter entrusts an minor rustic oceanic god to raise and take care of Despoina just like Demeter and her sisters were fostered by some Titans during the titanomachy. Despoina was a mystery goddess, we don't even know her real name or the role she filled. Half of the mythology was made up
@greyworld6242
@greyworld6242 Жыл бұрын
Great story!
@mortytheghost
@mortytheghost Жыл бұрын
The actual mythology for Despoina is much more interesting to me, especially since she was the subject of a mystery cult, potentially the original Persephone, and much more associated with the underworld than with nature. Fun fact, Persephone is never referred to as a goddess of Spring. Demeter brings Spring because of being happy to see her daughter, Persephone is referred to as Dread Persephone and shares ruling the underworld with her husband. Based on her mythological roots she may have held that responsibility before Hades entered Greek mythology. (He's actually more recent than Persephone)
@AhmedBalahim
@AhmedBalahim 3 ай бұрын
What do you mean when Persephone is never mentioned as the goddess spring? There are literally many hymns described to her as the goddess of spring
@cuellar4500
@cuellar4500 Жыл бұрын
Love it
@michasalamon8315
@michasalamon8315 Жыл бұрын
First time seeing this. Nice story even if its made up as I am sure Boreas have different wife and a daughter who is a snow goddess/nymph. Nevermind, still if Despoina Isn’t her Real name but a title, what do ya all think her Real name could be? Since Kore means Lady and was only title for Persephone whose name mean Bringer of Death, what could Despoina’s Real name possibly be?
@MangaMaid4545
@MangaMaid4545 Жыл бұрын
So because Despoina was often conflated with Persephone, a lot of what we know about Despoina, like pretty much almost all of it save one fragmented thing from Callimachus, is from Pausanias Depiction of Greece. As Pausanias wrote, "Demeter, they say, had by Poseidon a daughter [Despoine (Despoena)], whose name they are not wont to divulge to the uninitiated, and a horse called Areion (Arion)." Basically, if you aren't part of the mystery cult in Arcadia, you don't get to know. A lot of people think because they were conflated, that Despoina was probably a title for Persephone because Chthonic deity names were not spoken because in ancient Greece, you speak their name, you risk getting their attention and you did not want that because it put you much closer to death. A theory on why Despoina is listed as Poseidon's child rather than Zeus is that is probably carryover coming from Mycenean Greece, where Poseidon was the head of the Pantheon instead of Zeus at the time and he also fulfilled the king of the Underworld role. OSP's Miscellaneous Myths: Hades and Persephone covers the history stuff surrounding Persephone, Hades, Demeter, Poseidon, and Despoina pretty well. They point out that Despoina could be an offshoot of whatever scary ancient eldritch Underworld deity that Persephone originally came from. Reason why I buy into this theory is there are a TON of queens of the Underworld: Persephone, Ereshkigal, Hel, Hine-nui-te-pō, and Izanami, just to name a few of them, and I find it very interesting that women are so prominently tied to ruling over the land of the dead and I really want to know where that stemmed from.
@omnicupid6694
@omnicupid6694 Жыл бұрын
This is too wholesome for my heart!
@viridianacortes9642
@viridianacortes9642 Жыл бұрын
There is actually a fairytale from Spain about a princess named Despertina. I wonder if they are related somehow.
@agrat9110
@agrat9110 Жыл бұрын
There's another version where Demeter keeps Desponia a secret but doesn't leave her
@pedrogabrielduarte4544
@pedrogabrielduarte4544 Жыл бұрын
I never knew there were two flying horses in mythology
@TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz
@TheAnimalKingdom-tq3sz Жыл бұрын
*sigh* We already know Demeter can be a smothering parent at times, but this is a whole new level. Even for Greek Deity standards. I'm glad I rooted for Typhon to destroy all of them
@oceanberserker
@oceanberserker Жыл бұрын
Remember. Hades and Hestia are by far best girl and boi in the entire pantheon.
@mewe1717
@mewe1717 Жыл бұрын
that was all made up, The story of Despoina doesnt exist withn the greek texts
@rossalbertdelacruz6751
@rossalbertdelacruz6751 Жыл бұрын
@@mewe1717 She exists but it was on the old myth, their old versions. Where Poseidon was their head god.
@mewe1717
@mewe1717 Жыл бұрын
@@rossalbertdelacruz6751 Mycenean records, whom some are translated and others not, but yet there hasn't been a single one recording her story, and if there is, then go ahead and pull up those sources, because the only thing resembles the vid is what was told in the percy Jackson books, not real mythology
@psychedelicpayroll5412
@psychedelicpayroll5412 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I agree with Typhon destroying them too.
@nicolaglancey2140
@nicolaglancey2140 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone else know the original source for this mythology, because whilst I know of Despina, I've not seen a mythology story of her being the winter goddess.
@Floweramon
@Floweramon Жыл бұрын
That's because most of this is made up and inaccurate
@blast3608
@blast3608 Жыл бұрын
Looks like medusa isn't the only one, who's a victim of poseidon.
@jessnalulila5709
@jessnalulila5709 Жыл бұрын
This version came from the roman writer Ovid, in the greek version she was a monster since the start
@glamorgirl911
@glamorgirl911 Жыл бұрын
no in one version demeter had a choice and said if posidon made a horse she would marry him by the time posidon made it tho he lost intrest edit: why did i start my sentence with no lol
@meowmeowm30w
@meowmeowm30w Жыл бұрын
I find this pairing the cutest. Icy winds and the winter season. Perfectly made for each other. Unless there's more to their lore which is incredibly messed up
@nemo7542who
@nemo7542who Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@sarahdouglas9119
@sarahdouglas9119 Жыл бұрын
I’m learning about more gods and goddesses I never heard about before
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Then this probably isn't the best place to do so seeing as they made up half of the mythology in this video
@tehaniisthebest4890
@tehaniisthebest4890 Жыл бұрын
PERIOOOOODDDDDD Y'ALL ARE SO CUTE THIS IS THE SECOND BEST ONE
@elizabetheliskastastna8637
@elizabetheliskastastna8637 Жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about not ,,famous" gods and goddesses? Id love to know more of them like Despine and others.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Well if they do I'd suggest that you research the deities on your own time cause half of this mythology was made up. Despoina isn't the goddess of winter, she didn't destroy Demeter's crops, she wasn't married to Boreas and she wasn't cruelly neglected or abandoned by Demeter. The only myths about her is her birth Where Poseidon assaults a mourning grieving Demeter while she was searching for Persephone and where Demeter entrusts an minor rustic oceanic god to raise and take care of Despoina just like Demeter and her sisters were fostered by some Titans during the titanomachy
@elizabetheliskastastna8637
@elizabetheliskastastna8637 Жыл бұрын
@@parentalfigure2511 offf and I thought that at least someone is saying the truth... Can you recommend some channel/s that are doing good work?
@animegirlhaven
@animegirlhaven Ай бұрын
That story is really good over struggle. It makes u love love, and not giving up on your life can more ❤
@tiquaviasharvey639
@tiquaviasharvey639 Жыл бұрын
If Arion is a divine horse I wonder how he would look as god in human form
@CDHfilms
@CDHfilms Жыл бұрын
I CANNOT believe I never knew about Despina!
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Cause she is a mystery goddess. We don't know anything about her. Half of this myth was made up
@Floweramon
@Floweramon Жыл бұрын
Most of this video was made up
@louiselollypop
@louiselollypop Жыл бұрын
PERSEPHONE HAS A SISTER 😮 … dang have i been living in a hole😢
@hanabarbosa4458
@hanabarbosa4458 Жыл бұрын
In my personal opinion, Despina's story shows the double standards of Demeter by how she treated her daughters even though they kind of were created by the same horrible way. In the most famous versions of the myth, Persephone was created in a forced and traumatizing manner the same way Despina was, the only differences between the two of them is that Demeter left Despina while she took care of Persephone and that they have different fathers. In fact, in some versions of the story, Demeter left Despina as a baby, without even giving her a name, it was actually another god who raised and gave her a name. I'm happy that this version of the story has quite a good and hopeful ending for the sisters.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Demeter being assaulted by Zeus doesn't exist in any myth, except where its Rhea and Zeus where they mated as snakes and Rhea becomes Demeter. But that is a super niche old version. Demeter was assaulted by Poseidon while looking for Persephone, she didn't abandon Despoina she entrusted a minor oceanic god to care for her similar to how Demeter and her sisters were fostered by some Titan's during the titanomachy. Despoina isn't the goddess of winter, she doesn't destroy Demeters crops, she isn't married to Boreas and she doesn't feel neglected or angry. We know literally nothing about her
@user-tp9uw1pr6m
@user-tp9uw1pr6m Жыл бұрын
@@parentalfigure2511 what Zeus mated with his mother?
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
@@user-tp9uw1pr6m yes in a super niche myth where Rhea is Demeter and she gives birth to a deformed Persephone
@user-tp9uw1pr6m
@user-tp9uw1pr6m Жыл бұрын
@@parentalfigure2511 oh I see.... did he still had his eyes though?
@crroom4636
@crroom4636 Жыл бұрын
Such a good story wich nice happy end
@irtijanuhash2447
@irtijanuhash2447 Жыл бұрын
This is wholesome
@juanex721
@juanex721 Жыл бұрын
one daughter was neglected and the lack of mother love turned her into a cold hearted godess. The other was recieving to much motherly love that it became toxic and made her run away to the hands of the king of underworld. its natural both sisters love eachother and had that strong bond.....both suffered on their own way for their mother's lack/excesive of love.
@cemetiere
@cemetiere Жыл бұрын
My fav goddess!❤❤❤
@Ashstar4
@Ashstar4 Жыл бұрын
But doesn't Boreas already have a wife, the immortal princess Oreithyia. Also Chione is the Goddess of Winter (well snow but it counts) and as far as I know Despoena/Despoina is a semi agricultural mystery goddess at least that is what I have read.
@AhmedBalahim
@AhmedBalahim 3 ай бұрын
Despoina, Oreithyia, and khione are the same goddess in this interpretation
@betelgeuseredstone9082
@betelgeuseredstone9082 Жыл бұрын
The first Snow Queen.
@andrewler13theundeadwarrio51
@andrewler13theundeadwarrio51 Жыл бұрын
0:50 0:53 It looks like the black hair girl looked like a short hair boy, It breaks my heart, brings sorrow to see the baby cry when her mother who didn't want her left her.
@andrewler13theundeadwarrio51
@andrewler13theundeadwarrio51 Жыл бұрын
0:40 If Only I had a daughter like this, I would take care of her, help her with anything.
@andrewler13theundeadwarrio51
@andrewler13theundeadwarrio51 Жыл бұрын
1:45 but her future changed. Still I wonder how she survived as a Baby. I think gods were by her side to not starve and suffer.
@charliemcternan8190
@charliemcternan8190 Жыл бұрын
It’s always funny when it comes to the gods there’s at least one child they have that has gotten abandoned
@jackielogan9104
@jackielogan9104 Жыл бұрын
Poseidon again 🙄. We can say he is just as awful as Zeus when it comes to women.
@avalasialove
@avalasialove Жыл бұрын
I know! And yet people make Hades out to be the bad guy...
@avalasialove
@avalasialove Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelantoniobazzanadossan9451 That’s what I’m saying
@user-tp9uw1pr6m
@user-tp9uw1pr6m Жыл бұрын
Zeus at least are more consentual
@xhagast
@xhagast Жыл бұрын
Demeter was sister to both Zeus and Poseidon. Some say that Zeus and Persephone were Dionysus' parents. And of course, Zeus and Hera were brother and sister. Lol, this drama makes Game of Thrones look like a tale for kindergarteners.
@SilverHier
@SilverHier Жыл бұрын
A reflection of the worst traits of humanity but shockingly a happy ending. Rare.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Yes, cause half it was made up
@kazarofchult8086
@kazarofchult8086 Жыл бұрын
At least she found love unlike her sister
@jessnalulila5709
@jessnalulila5709 Жыл бұрын
Despoina didn't married Boreas in GM, and what do you mean with "unlike her sister"?
@dreademperor2094
@dreademperor2094 Жыл бұрын
Persephone did, he's called Hades
@adityathakur1921
@adityathakur1921 Жыл бұрын
Next artwork adoin aprodite and persephone 🥰
@Munchkin.Of.Pern09
@Munchkin.Of.Pern09 Жыл бұрын
“Despina”… that sounds *really* similar to ‘Despoina’, an Arcadian name that was used for Persephone?
@zslatty130
@zslatty130 Жыл бұрын
What’s name of this piano song the 1st one
@mikeg2306
@mikeg2306 Ай бұрын
It’s interesting that she’s the goddess of Winter because that fits nicely with the Mesopotamian myth of the Seasons. In the Ishtar myth when Ishtar returns from the Underworld she discovers that her husband Tammuz has been unfaithful to her. Tammuz is the god of growing things (ie the god of Spring). In rage she condemns Tammuz to the Underworld, but his sister who is essentially the Ice Queen (ie the goddess of Winter) volunteers to swap places with him for part of the year. This is how the Sumerians/Babylonians explained the Seasons.
@bloodsting
@bloodsting Жыл бұрын
The saddest stories in greek mythologies often has great endings... But for medusa, she never deserved that punishment. Athena cant punish poseidon because of heirarchy amongst the gods.
@witchhazel4135
@witchhazel4135 Жыл бұрын
I like happy endings! 😊
@kevindavis296
@kevindavis296 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know demeter had another daughter. And another child with Poseidon. I know Poseidon was attracted to her and presude her and forced her when she turned into a horse and he turned into one too to find her. That's they had a son Arsion. It's just like how Hera rejected and abandoned Hephaestus, on how Detemer abandoned this daughter of her. Also Depmina's life is very similar to Hephaestus. They both were abandoned by their judgement parents and when they grew up they got vengeance on them. Hephaestus trapping his mom in a chair and Depmina freezing her mother's crops. But he got revenge on her dad too.
@parentalfigure2511
@parentalfigure2511 Жыл бұрын
Half of this myth doesn't exist. Despoina destroying her mother's crops doesn't appear in mythology it's literally Demeter that kills the crops, bother does her anger or her being the goddess of winter or any marriage to Boreas. She's literally just mentioned in the story of her birth after Demeter was assaulted while looking for Persephone, and her being given to an minor oceanic god to be raised. That's all
@chrisbreen1780
@chrisbreen1780 Жыл бұрын
I really miss when you videos were like 15-20 minutes
@cosmicrae
@cosmicrae Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy this has a happy ending
@genesismultiverse4896
@genesismultiverse4896 11 ай бұрын
You know I couldn't find that ending but I don't care that is a heartwarming moment which makes me want to sing let it go
@iliketowatchvideos926
@iliketowatchvideos926 Жыл бұрын
😇🧿😇😇Blessings.😇😇🧿😇
@armandotorres8962
@armandotorres8962 Жыл бұрын
Awh! A nice happy ending. Hope Despina is invited to dinners in Tartarus.
@truthspreader1996
@truthspreader1996 Жыл бұрын
So they become friends, but she still destroys their mother's work with her icy winds though...
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 10 ай бұрын
I like how this Goddess ended up
@smb-c3po
@smb-c3po Жыл бұрын
Jack Frost is the Norse god of ice and Hodor is the Norse god of winter, Jack's dad is the Norse god of winds Kari.
@muhammadaizanuddinmk8729
@muhammadaizanuddinmk8729 Жыл бұрын
i just knew about Despina..
@drogo1913
@drogo1913 6 ай бұрын
This actually reminds me of Rapunzel and Cassandra in the tangled series. They have a bit in common and I’m not related by blood they still remain friends and sisters.
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