you should do a "The Worst Excuses Ive Given to Cancel Dates so I Could Play Saturn" video

Saturn definitely faced an unfair uphill battle in the states. Most of the best games stayed in Japan, and most of the US releases were crap like what you covered.

Doom on the Saturn just pisses me off, what a way to shit on a good game.

Creature Shock is what I imagine a colonoscopy looking like if the patient has a parasitic infection.

I have managed to avoid these stinkers for more than 2 decades now. One of my greatest accomplishments.

First time I played Congo, I thought my controller was broken. 😂😂😂😂

Doom was a bad port on the SEGA Saturn, it is such a shame for one the best games/fps ever.

I like this intro much better. Stick with it!

I have to say , this has grown to become one of my favorite YT channels, keep up the good work!

Hate seeing Sega at their worst, hurts my heart, lol

I ended up getting Creature Shock. That game is scary AF and I had NO idea what the hell am I supposed to do in that game.

*lowkey* that battle monsters game looks Lit for 10-15 minutes.

As any Sega Saturn fan knows, our favorite console often gets an unfair rap for its ugly games. That said, games like these provide a lot of ammunition for detractors--Both in its 90's heyday and the casual observer today. There's no ugly games quite like early 5th generation ugly games, and the Saturn sports plenty of them given its byzantine design and lack of comprehensive development tools early on.

I've played Creature Shock on my 3DO and it looked and played great at the time. Especially after years spent on Megadrive. You can actually defend yourself from enemys' attacks. You just need to press a button that turn screen blue. It depletes the gun power rather quickly (it constantly regenerates back at a slower pace) so you need to preserve it and not to shoot aimelesly and mindlesly. It actually adds some depth to the shooting mechanic. But the game aged rather bad and looked dated when Saturn and PlayStation came up.

Found your channel a few days ago - now I'm hooked!

Such a shame about Doom, Duke 3D showed exactly how it should have been built for the Saturn

Money making idea: port Creature Shock to Steam, rename Colonoscopy Simulator, watch the cash roll in.

Your colourful descriptions of some of these horrid games has my laughing out loud. Another great vid!!

Wow! That Battle Monsters footage. Kasumi Ninja on the Jaguar is looking pretty good right about now.

Damn if just lobotomy software had the chance to handle the port of Doom, im sure we would have a great version of Doom I dare to say even better than the PS1 version, just take a look at Duke Nukem with the dymanic lighting and great framerate!

I think some of these games get a bad rap for digitized graphics and FMV. They were made for standard definition consumer televisions in the 90's, so of course the low resolution content doesn't look good on modern screens.

I kinda enjoy playing Chaos Control :) Yes, the ennemies don't disappear because they are part of the FMV, not just like some 2D sprites added over it. So the developers used this trick of blurring them with smoke when they are defeated because they couldn't make them disappear. I think this game has its own atmosphere and I don't consider it to be an awful game.

Ok when I got to dragonheart and I see what reminds me of "sword of sodan" , a game I had the pleasure of buying full price back in the day :-/ . I thank the gods I never played it. Before, and after that, I see some games I knew of, or would have expected, remembering the era. Then I get hit over the head with time commando.... I'm an old fuck and generally recognize or have played most games up to around 2k, but damn that is such a fuckin piece of shit looking game. I'm glad I never played it and I cant imagine what would motivate someone to create it. To end this shit show, I'm no fan of fmv but I will admit (pause) I had a hell of a good time with with Sewer Shark. The gameplay was simplistic, but add the cut scenes and you got a simple twitch shooter with some funny story. Cheers for another 100% accurate video brother. You know how to call em.

Black Fire was here in the U.S. too. That terrible helicopter game. A friend gave it to me absolutely free and I tried to enjoy it numerous times. Eventually pawned it.. thanks for the memory lol

Being a bad fighting game on the Saturn is like being a bad platformer on the N64 or being a bad RPG on PlayStation... You're so outclassed, you may as well have not shown up. That said, FIST has some really cool character art... and that's the extent of my interest in the game xD

“The Dreadful Fist” sounds like a cooler game title than just “Fist”

Battle Monsters is a huge guilty pleasure. I'd love a remake.

I love how impassioned you get talking about the saturn. I appreciate your perspective. Always wish I could take a peak into an alternate reality where saturn was successful as well as turbografx and ngpc Oh well

Waiting for Part 3 to include Sega Touring Car!

That doom port is like a powerpoint presentation. Also: I love the new intro

Happy to report. As a day 1 Saturn owner. I haven't played any of these games.

Nice vid man, I played these and man I get the chills seeing them again.

Haha I love hearing you spew out all that anger and frustration 😆 you are such a passionate (Sega) gamer and the disappointment is palpable!

TBH i kinda liked Battle Monsters...

Great to see you switched to your classic intro again. Way better IMO.

I played through Doom on Saturn quiete a lot. As a kid I did not struggled at all to do so. One level for sure was way too slow, but besides that, I loved it. And still do. YES its weak compared to the original, but it is FAR away from being unplayable or not enjoyable. Played through it a few years ago with a friend and did not changed up my mind.

I love your channel man. As a fellow Sega person growing up, (I got a Genesis instead of an SNES during the Holiday season of 91' mostly due to my family's lack of funds and have loved it ever since), but I have a question for you. Did you ever have a friend you could swap systems with? My poor friends and I used to get by swapping systems when certain games came out. While I loved my Genesis, games like Super Metroid, Super Castlevania IV, Super Metroid, and the Final Fantasy series could pry it from me from time to time. Did you ever participate in the lost tradition of console swapping when a game you heard about was just too good to ignore or cover up with console bias? If so, it might make an interesting episode. Either way, I love your channel X. Happy gaming.

Another great video, man! Keep up with the outstanding work! Despite the relative problems with 3d, how about a video about the Best 3d graphics seen on the console?

When I was a kid my first two Sega Saturn games were nhl 98 and black fire. Both were on the list lol. At the time though those games were my childhood. I also had Virtua cop one and two Virtua fighter Daytona USA galactic attack and bust a move.

Another excellent video. Even though these games are evidentially abysmal, I like the level of detail you go into. The adjective ‘ass’ is also a favourite of mine.

Weeooo, what a stinky episode ;) On a slightly more serious note; I was thinking about the Saturn the other day. Honestly trying to figure out what SEGA was thinking when they released it. My conclusion was that SEGA waited too long to introduce a proper heir to what was objectively the best system they ever released, the Genesis/MegaDrive. Almost like they lacked the foresight to see what was coming. Or maybe they believed that no one would consider buying a $3-500 gaming system? Once they finally did come to terms with what the public was willing to throw money at, the Saturn dogma was already a generation old if you count the NEO-GEO as it's closest contender graphics wise. Naturally, the winds brought the rumors that SONY was throwing its hat into the home gaming ring, forgoing the (already tired?) 2D gaming path. This aparrently led SEGA to slap another CPU on the board and hope like hell developers could make heads or tails of its architecture. Sadly, this was not the case. Sure, some games did manage to come close to matching, sometimes even surpassing what the PlayStation was doing. Unfortunately, SEGA didn't have the faith and shit all over the Saturn by releasing the Dreamcast in a way that just rubbed people the wrong way. On a positive note, 2D fighters had the best luck on the system and I'm sure fans of the genre were dutifully satisfied they had made the 'right' choice.

I love how you had doom in the thumbnail, when that is one of my favorite games on the saturn!!!!! Still thumbed it up anyways

Sigh. John Carmack definitely gave the Saturn port of Doom the double barrel shotgun.

That rendering technique for the helicopter game seems quite interesting. It looks like an early voxel system was made to generate those levels.

That helicopter game would give me headache for sure. And mate, Mr. Carmack only learned about the texture/visuals not being the 1st priority after the first Rage with his idea of MegaTexture technology.. The guys who made the new Is Tech 6 ( Doom 2016 ) were CryEngine tech guys that believed that Framerates are king... By the way, CryTek let them go because they were focused on framerate.

Battle Monsters is a good idea. I mean "Dark Stalkers" was a success. I like that the environment was different in Battle Monsters. You didn't always just have a flat surface. You could jump on staircases I saw in this video. That's pretty cool.

Oof! I owned Congo on the Saturn back when I was in high school, and you were being waaay to nice in your review, lol! The scaling was horrible, which made it impossible to navigate the levels without constantly looking at the automap. Also, if the mosquitos bite you, they can give you malaria, which makes the entire screen warp at random for a few seconds. Oh - and there were platforming sections. Makes you wonder just who gave the go ahead for this game to be released.

My eyes are bleeding from the awful graphics in these games. The only redeeming quality "Rise 2: Resurrection" had was the song "Cyborg" by Brian May from Queen. Everything else was - in the words of Ole Anderson - the shits.

The Saturn port of Doom is completely unacceptable. The Sega 32X port did a better job than that!

Where is Part 3? this series so far has been excelent

Fist was a 3D attempt at the Pretty Fighter series which saw its first game on the SNES using traditional 2D pixel art, then a 2D fighter on the Saturn using digitized hand drawn anime cel art. Battle Monsters had a 3D brother of a game on the PS1 called Killing Zone.

Those heel promos you cut were awesome

YEEEESSSSSSS!!!! the original intro is BACCCCCCCKKKKKK!

Doom on the Saturn is so damn choppy that it almost resembles bad stop-mo!

You know what is interesting about my time with the Saturn? I have never played a bad game for the machine. I had them both in 1995 and bought most games for my PSX. It also has a lot to do with me buying my own games by then. Yes, my parents bought me a few games but they would ask me what I wanted for Christmas. I was working for the family business and they paid me very well.

Seeing that dragon heart footage reminded me of conan exiles for some reason then you said funcom and it blew my mind. didnt know they have been around that long

The Saturn was my first console, my older brother’s hand me down when I was about 2-3 years old. We had/have croc, VF2, Clockwork Knight, a bunch of random sports games, Bug!, and Dragon Heart. Lol. I loved the game as a kid, probably shouldnt go back to it then. After the Saturn, I got a PS2 and the rest is history, although I’ve always been slightly bitter that we never had any of the more sought-after Saturn games.

I interviewed Jim Bagley about Doom. I think he forgives Carmack now 😂

The ground of Black Fire looks like Cyberpunk before the textures load in. 😂

Carmack didn't want someone else doing something with Doom that he couldn't take credit for. The Saturn version being bad was a pure ego thing on Carmack's part. The guy was a master programmer but he was also an ass.

It was hilarious to hear you rip Black Fire a new ass haha

Thunder Strike was the helicopter game to get for Saturn.

That DragonHeart game is the Saturn equivalent of Sword of Sodan.

The funny thing about the first game is that there’s a great little fighting robot game on the very same console

I've always seen Black Fire for sale at video game conventions and retro stores and wondered why there were so many copies of it everywhere. Now I know why. Those textures made me nauseous lol

Creature Shock is one of the earliest survival horror games. It still gets me heart going today. Tame visuals??? What mid 90s horror were you playing?

Great job on this video!

Whether it's the worst or not, convincing yourself you like lame things is truly the life of a Sega fan! Same for TG16, 3DO, whatever is not Nintendo, etc :-D If you can reckon a way to tolerate it, usually on some technological or violent gimmick, or just because this is what you bought and now you're stuck with it, that means you like it! This is a well made channel, like an Ed Wood production.

That skybox at 5:02 is the prettiest part of that game by far

Great a new upload.

Oh my god, I completely forgot there was a Dragonheart game.

Played Creature shock on PC back in the Day. I got it for free buying my first CD-rom.

DOOM in 50hz.What a treat that was!

A game like Blackfyre would've been an amazing technical thing if it were on the Genesis using an advanced SVP Chip inside the cartridge. But for the Saturn, one would expect something way, waaaaaay better than that!

I remember Time Commando came out, had it on PC (Still have it) I remember it as having clunky controls, but I did play it. On Computer though, it may have been better there. I think it did look pretty good for the time, and was a pretty succsesful game. The same company made Little Big Adventure, I remember that as very good and very succsesful, it also had clunky strange controls, but was easier to control than Time Commando....

While Congo is horrible and makes me sick to play you must admit the intro with Kabalo is amazing and worthy of an Oscar

your disdain towards the congo game.... I can feel it! Haha

Sewer Shark is what a I imagine a game based on the interior of my large intestine would be like.

Ha, Black Fire looks like a counterpart of Wild Choppers on N64

The last footage of that game chaos control what does that sound like? It sounds like the plasma gun from doom.

I knew you forgot to include congo in the last video about the worst games

I guess it’s a fitting analogy that the protagonist from Time Commando appears in Little Big Adventure 2 on PC AS AN ENEMY!

Time Commando was a bit tighten up on the PSX while it was better on the PC, where it has better graphics, precision,, and physics than the PSX and Sega Saturn versions. I played the PSX version, thinking it'd be better than I'd expect, but it turned to be a whip in my arse. I was just skimming into the first level, kicking anything killing me in a quick rush of survival.

That Doom is just pathetic. Powerslave, Hexen, Duke and Quake all prove that effort and know how can lead to fantastic Saturn fps.

i do like saturn doom, was the version i completed first, later got the jaguar version and it feels like it runs at twice the frame rate, but saturn has such a great controller with those shoulder buttons so it compensates a bit

It's interesting that Creature Shock is actually one of the most advanced, and one of the best, CD-i games.

General rule of thumb - if it's LJN/Acclaim, it's probably going to be garbage

I always find voxel based games fascinating. Too bad Novalogic failed so hard on Black Fire. It could have looked so much better if they didn't colour the voxels so randomly - Like they did before in Comanche on PC...

I feel bad for Battle Monsters. I like the concept, but it does look like a low-budget Darkstalkers.

great video as always, but I do disagree with some of the choices but its personal preference. doom is a crap port but if you haven't played it on other systems or PC I think its okay and I really enjoyed it in link play when me and my son did a video for my channel on sega saturn. I also don't mind chaos control think it plays okay despite its flaws. time commando is a game I recently played and I have to admit I was 50/50 on whether I hated it or liked it but I kept playing it and reminded me of a game like out of this world were you die a lot but it gets easier once you known how to navigate each section. keep up the excellent work and look forward to your next video.

Okay I'm gonna defend Blackfire here- you say there's no crosshairs but the game had a really great targeting system that everybody on KZfaq doesn't seem to ever use. It's a totally different game when you're blind-firing! Still looks like shit though, can't argue there.

Omg these game were real stinkers ... some even bad enough for avgn

Some of the Doom footage looks like the levels from Doom 2. Interesting.

the helicopter game looks like it uses voxels to render terrain. why have i never heard of it?

If those game dev’s did get more & better tools, they could,ve make those games so much better, now it’s up to those hackers fan base community.

How does Saturn run Doom worse than the rocks in my garden?

Would you consider doing a video about ToeJam and Earl on the genesis? That was one of my all-time favorite games and NOBODY ever talks about it.

17:10 - that's literally reskinned Tekken 1, down to the animations (the first character I think has Law's moveset) and moon jumping.

Oh hell No!!! You bashed my battle monsters

I love the way Battle Monsters looks, but it could use some more animation.