so now, we know better?

kowing betr

Will do

Hey I am having a problem with this question : "What video is your favorite from the last year? *" The options are not opening for me I tried refreshing, Is anyone else having this problem?

If I had kids, I would like you to be their history teacher

lmaoooo

REAGAN!!!!!!! FRIEDMAN!!!!!!! Seriously I hate these guy's with a passion.

Reagan sucked a fat one, literally people only like him because he said say no to drugs and think hes the best President ever because of it and ignore the mountain of problems he caused lol

@@bloodking73 Not quite People like Reagon because he had a appearance of a conservative's conservative.

its all reagan. the american revolution, Reagan : civil war, Reagan : world war 1&2, reagan. its all reagan

I have a different view because of how the program I went through worked. They IQ tested for placement, raising/lowering threshold to follow capacity instead of other methods described. The tests were on weekends, but since the location was a separate school students could go with them to get tested on that specific day. Also they made parents keep the IQ scores secret (idk how) whilst the child was in the program (1-8 grade) to eliminate any "dick measuring", and the program was ran by teachers who actually gave a sh!t (meaning we were taught studying/learning methods) Honestly I feel like our system did not set us up for failure, but very easily could if done slightly different

That is definitely a possible outcome and it definitely played out that way for some kids. But not all.

Yuuuup! That was me. Took the test, did alright, but didn't get it, but in the back of my mind I always carried that with me. Didn't study hard because, "I'm smart and gifted". And due to that I never learned the skills to study properly. Plus throw in the probably undiagnosed adhd...the end of High School did not bode well.

Don't forget your Highschool Teachers looking at you being in Gifted and Talented and constantly telling you "I know you're better and can do better, you're just lazy!" Whenever you went to them for help, or your parents. Any tutoring I have ever received has been from Google and online friends. Rarely if ever have teachers or my parents even tried to help me, and my parents for the most part sure as hell can't because I'm doing mathematics and science they don't even understand. Man, highschool is great.

​@@brushnit9212ours tried to do that, but I saw one lady for 20 minutes once or twice a week to work on independent study projects, never actually saw my freshman year junjor year facilitators, and by the time I got a teacher who would tell us anything ither than how smart we were, I was 8 months to graduation, which isn't enough time to learn about study habits or how we were pretty much all neurodivergent, just not in any way that inconvencienced the adults

Same, only I didn't care about school,I just let them shove Retalin down my throat so I could sit still

God I was such a cunt when I was in school. Seriously fucked me up for a while.

As someone who was a "gifted" student at an early age but then didn't follow through into the honors classes, was not a fan of the intro because of the fact that, no, everything was NOT handed to me, in fact, more was expected of me because of being a gifted student...

Yeah as a "gifted" student with autism. I felt like that intro was abit too targeted. I'm grateful to have teachers that cared but his intro was the narrative used by overly invested teachers who were unaware of what I was dealing with. Studies show that what we think of as "gifted" students tend to also be special needs

"gifted" isnt a thing in NZ but I was up a grade and then did calculus up a grade but I still think I'm a fucking idiot. (Which is definitely true btw) I can't really understand the mindset of thinking you're better than other people because that's nearly impossible as far as I'm concerned. Only like .1% of people are actually just built different and better. Imo the rest are just privilidged to have a life where they're able to fully focus on school (which usually means they have no or less of a social life like me). Plus school is fucking bullshit anyway and doesn't translate to success as I've found out since I dropped out of university because I completely lost all motivation and have been wasting my life for the past year (recently did get a part time job though). All of this life story is to say that "gifted" students is a stupid and untrue name. "Early advanced" would be better imo, but unless you're part of the .1% you dont deserve special treatment (unless you actually have special needs) and if you are part of the .1% you barely need school to begin with

Hello fellow "smart" adhd haver. I relate to this hard.

I get y’all

I really need an evaluation. I have this same problem and it been getting out of hand lately. Not to mention other behavioral indicators. I’m know as the “smart child” of the family and there is so much pressure and everyone think I’m so smart and organized and well put together but I have been severely drowning because of deadlines. Idk how I got this far tbh

@@rain_drops2723 have you tried the youtube psychologist's and ADHD specialist's videos? You might be able to find some helpful information on what it is you're looking for, i.e. diagnosis and/or treatment, there. Good luck, tho! It seems I have ADHD tendencies, but I am NOT ADHD. tell me how that works lol So I just have to win my professors over with charm in order to be able to turn something in late. It usually works, but not always, duh. but the stress, guilt and shame of "not being able to handle it all" can get quite heavy.

@@stacyfiske7903 thanks you! I can imagine how stressful that is. I don’t want to self diagnose cuz I don’t want to sound like I’m trying to be quirky or anything. But when I get older I’m thinking of going to a therapist so if it’s anything they would tell me. Where I mental health is not taken seriously at all so I can’t get professional help right now. So I’m just finding ways to manage somehow.

Clearly you don't own an airfryer

First class boomer humor

Clearly you haven’t listened The Stable Genius: Donald Trump.

Or just the internet in general

I truly despised the ideas espoused with this statement. You don’t need to be an expert in everything in order to point a child in the right direction or give the tools to learn for themselves. Very few public school educators can claim to be an expert in their Feild, as the educational requirements to fill these positions do not demand it. And clearly elementary school teachers cannot fulfill this role as they are required to teach many subjects. With libraries, and the internet, and a lot of discernment anyone can become and expert at anything. At least from a philosophical perspective. Certain disciplines require a practical aspect that can be difficult to access.

Read my work of fiction to find out what will happen if we don't end special education!

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The og viral grifter.

“MERCH LINK IN BIO” - Ayn Rand

@@KnowingBetter Was this work of fiction written when you were putting the kool aid in your hair for visual effects or after you started drinking it?

Ideological management. Like the American Legion and, by proxy, the John Birch Society (whose heirs evident are now in the Tea Party.)

Looking back on my own school experience in the US and yeah it’s definitely strange and on a disturbing level of nationalistic pride. Like a bunch of seven years olds in a Bush era elementary school in the Bible Belt reciting the pledge everyday is something out of a southern gothic novella and 1984 fusion.

@@endergamer7483 or a bunch of kids chanting "OBAMA" - that is more recent than "bush era".

@@peckandabushel3065 true, I was in most of elementary school during Bush and the majority of middle and part of high school with Obama. We recited the pledge in elementary school mostly and then that petered out in my later school years. It’s still creepy seeing how young I was and how if it was anywhere like North Korea and/or Russia we would call it “indoctrination”. I’m what I like to call a geriatric member of gen z (aka 20 something who was too young to remember 9/11, but was around for it and the chaos that followed it).

Yeh. I'm german and I think if any school here were to have students recite something like that there'd be public outrage.

The reason my mom insisted on sending me and my brother to the private Christian school run by our church that they couldn't afford was specifically because she didn't want us to learn about evolution. NVM that both she and my dad went to public schools their entire lives and both are Young Earth Creationists... But as a result, my dad had to work 2-3 jobs when I was a kid and we rarely saw him. And the real irony is that it was Bible College that made me ask questions about Christianity and eventually lead to me becoming an atheist.

@@SadisticSenpai61 One of the best cases of irony ever lol

Well your parents didn't try to homeschool you, this is a different situation

I homeschooled one of my kiddos for a while because she was touched inappropriately at school and the school tried to hide it and coach her -.- she was in a program for emotional and developmental disabilities and they let her go off on her own to the "Gen ed" side for whatever reason. I pulled her out for the rest of that year until we could find a better fit because that was the third school we had tried that year. I was in no way qualified to teach her and be mom at home, so it was a rough few months before we found a good fit. Most people I know who homeschool, do so for similar reasons I did for a while and are way better at teaching elementary school subjects. I guess we will see how they do when the kids hit middle/high school age 😂

@@SadisticSenpai61 reminds me of that one tweet, or x? Someone asked “When christians want to re-affirm their beliefs, they read the bible, what to atheists read?” And someone replied “the same thing”

Im sorry you went through that.

Maybe you should have been smart enough to realize taking on all that debt was a stupid idea. If you’re that smart you could easily get a scholarship into smaller schools and if your mom wasn’t taking in the dough they have Pell grants.

@@TrueStoreyPBmaybe they didn’t wanna go into smaller schools? maybe the solution wasn’t as easy as your huge brain says it could’ve been, or there wasn’t a “solution” at all

@@TrueStoreyPBA little harsh to belittle their intelligence by saying that they shouldn’t have gone to college in the first place. I’m guessing this was probably a while ago back when discrimination in high-level education and scholarship selection was prevalent and there weren’t many programs for low-income families. Still though, don’t call someone stupid because they went through a predatory business and came out with some debt that can be paid off in some years, first-generation college students suffer the worst

@@tpd1864blake oh yea? How long ago was that? As long as I’ve been alive black people get preferential selection for scholarships at major universities. Which isn’t what I was talking about anyway. I’m talking about simple scholarships you can get at community colleges just based on ACT scores. Anyone with above average intelligence can pull one of those and get an associates for the cost of just showing up.

I was dumb as a kid and thought they were doing it for my benefit not that they just didn’t think I was capable of doing the work because I was black and from a public school.

the same happened to me, i was told that i just couldn't keep up in the class and that i would have to write an essay assigned by my current english teacher to enter in the class (mind you i was allowed into ap us history, ap spanish with no argument). my english teacher scoffed at the idea and signed my paper allowing me into honors english. i was the only black student in the class.

and then everyone clapped

@@joelle4226 you weren't dumb, you were brainwashed. You didn't believe in yourself because you were basically groomed from infancy to believe that you were always just a little less, you were behind, ect. Don't blame yourself.

big w

At first I thought when he referenced the next day we were literally going to be getting a 50 minute video each day of this week somehow.

It would've been amazing

Yeah I wish

@@LRAStartFox !!1--!@

Yesss. I poured myself into academics not because I cared much, but because it felt like the only thing in my life that I could control... everywhere else in my life I was anxious, depressed, and socially inept.

Is chalk still a thing?

I didn't get the meaning there, does it have a deeper meaning?

@@Warentester I don’t know, ain’t seen one in a long time.

@@k20nutz It is just something that happens to teachers if they use a chalk board a lot, but he would have had to put that chalk on himself, it is kinda an inside joke.

@@Warentester Not at my school at least, we use whiteboards now, but we used to use chalkboards.

Soon enough his character selection menu gonna look like a lego freeplay menu

We really need a super smash bros game with all the knowing Better characters

Funy

Suggested reading by my senior year US History teacher: ESCAPE FROM FREEDOM by Erich Fromm. Protected by the Spectrum

What cruelty? She is just saying the truth. Intellectually disabled people have a learning disability. It is better to invest in those with higher learning powers who can do more for the rest of society

I was in both special ed and gifted programmes when I was living in the US for two years as a kid as I have ADHD

that's one way to motivate people. it seemed to have worked.

not a great way to motivate people though

good on you for giving people the benefit of the doubt... but as a teacher, she should know better than to tell you what she did without encouragement as well. *shrug*

I wanted to take HS Chemistry and Physics in the same year (Junior). Was discouraged because of the "work load". I chose to anyway...passed both with A's

same, I felt called out by that intro.

Kinda reason why i just got straight c grade, i saw what was happening to those who got honour classes, n went into college, only to have reality thrown at them. When i went to take classes in college, in the end i was in same classes as the valedictorian of another school

I can't say I share the same experience. Being around other honors students, who were basically friends I had known since elementary school, meant I was always around people I viewed as smart or smarter than me. Sort of an "Always a bigger fish" thing going on.

Y’all should read my comment lol

@@thecriticalcorner4083 uh.. you can’t really search for comments so how

Why do you hate history so much?

​​@@Demonetization_Symbolan't speak for OP but for me it was the curriculum that was taught. Two months about the colonies, then the industrial revolution, then the civil war, then the gilded age. Next year, FOUR months about the revolution, the industrial revolution, the civil war, if we timed it right it could also count as our token February Jim Crow lesson, then the gilded age. Nothing about how it connects to your life today, nothing about the history our parents or grandparenrs lived through. Nothing about the impact we can have on history today. Just "these long dead guys were great, and some of them weren't, but other dead guys fixed that problem forever"

​@PrincessNinja007 im still amazed as to how different the US history lessons are compared to western Europe (in my case, the Netherlands)

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@@seancondon5572 hooz*

Amogus.

Unfortunately a lot of teachers wouldn't be able to say a lot of this without getting into trouble. :/

@@onesob13 whosesknownst

It is normally how they work. I really am not sure what he's talking about here.

That was how it worked for me too. You just chose to put it on a schedule

Same. We were, however, grandfathered in for most of the students. "Gifted" labels were given as young kids. At my school now (I teach 3rd) we have no way to designate gifted students, so our little ones will not be able to use this pathway.

@@thefink6146 In Elementary School I do remember being placed in advanced math with a handful of other students so maybe he meant something like that, but the school tested everybody free of charge in third grade (before the disparities between students as a result of background could manifest at all) and it didn't even matter because after Elementary School we all ended up in the same math classes anyway so all it did was just make me hate math due to the tougher classes lol.

My high school, you didn’t take a test, but you had to have a certain GPA to qualify for it. You couldn’t just decide to take an AP class

Good luck, you’ll need it.

I am a teacher, my wife is a teacher, my grandma was a teacher, my aunts is teacher and lots of my cousins This video is a mixed bag of accuracy. And seems to have a lot of projection and misunderstanding and misrepresentations of the systems in place. Admittedly I am 36 minutes in I will add an edit after the conclusion but when we get to modern portion that his implications are getting pretty ridiculous. Edit: Finished and stand by opinion. The whole video is one big Apophenia Bias. I work directly against Charter School in my public magnet school (a public school with the intention of being more diverse). The charter schools market themselves on this premise of being diverse. But they care about one thing the grade Black, Hispanic, Asian? Doesn't matter if you behave an get a good grade. If not they expel you back to public school. It's profit, home life and a dozen other factors at play.

@@gregjones4705 You've just admitted to assuming his implications about modern education are ridiculous while also admitting that you haven't watched it yet. All based on personal experience whereas the through line in the video gas been verified historical events.

@@tracyh5751 At my time stamp he already made implications that gifted programs were made to segregate. And there's a reason I sperated the modern section. The historical section is fine for a broad overview. Knowingbetter usually does a good job with history. I really wish he dug into the property tax thing that is a big fucking deal still hurting schools today. It's also not getting better either. I have not met a single person who thinks Asians are genetically smarter, that most "people believe". Most people know and understand the cultural stereotype of Asians parents. Also his projections about his racist past is more telling about him then anything else. My biggest problem he is blaming school systems for problems that connects back to economics class. Implying systems are intentionally racist. 66% of educational performance is determined by home life. Working class parents which has higher percentage of PoC cannot provide the same aid middle and upper class parents can. Fix our welfare, raise wages, M4a and If parents can spend less time working and more time with kids those kids will have a better chance to succeed.

@@gregjones4705 All of the problems today are downwind from history, and the motivations of the past absolutely were grounded in racism and classism (among other things). You can't deny that. The situation we are in today is from maintaining the status quo of policies that were founded by racist principles. It's kind of important to know that we've been maintaining systems that were designed to educate for goals a lot of us probably don't agree with anymore. You are right that there are other issues that tie into our education, but that doesn't mean our schooling systems need massive overhauls even if we fixed all that you've mentioned.

As someone who just signed off Zoom from teaching a summer statistics course in which not one student had their camera on, I agree.

probably cause he knows better ;) I'm curious who volunteered to stand in as his students, probably Patreon Patrons? Some looked even older than Hollywood "Seniors" :D

@@Ugly_German_Truths I know its crazy that in Hollywood even 30 y/o men and 35 y/o females are sometimes cast as high schoolers. Gee I wonder why kids these days are so self concious?

At our school they kick you out of the class if the camera's off for no reason.

That's just giving extra poitns to people who can afford nice computers, more expensive internet plans, and happen to live in places with good service

What part of the north are you from. I am from kerry but I have been living in Belfast for the past 4 years.

@Hnghgn arghhggg yeah thats why I said mostly cause there are some on both sides who say it the other way

@@AnCoilean im from derry myself

@@padraigpearse1551 I have Derry roots. my great grandmother was born in Coleraine but was burnt out in 1920

Down South most protestants don't pronounce their rs and use broad vowels. I had Protestant friends growing up who had elecution classes in both primary and secondary schools.

“Her system values kids like me and then craps on kids like me” this, except my story is flipped. I’m exhausted and I just want to reclaim education for *me.* Not anyone else. No performance bullshit. Just pure curiosity and fun. Humans thrive on curiosity and we’ve somehow managed to build a system that beats it out of children.

The correct response to to glibly reply that you don't have any friends. The advisor probably wont be aware that the kids who don't have friends are already in the advanced classes.

@@jliller Those aren't mutually exclusive, though.

I'm really curious what goes on in a person's mind when they decide to tell a kid that

@@ericBorja520 Yes.

I was never told that, I was told "you won't even know any of these kids when you're an Adult." I still frequently talk to and visit those same friends. I always thought the way teachers told me that was rude.

Not all people go to college though in order to have that class.

That is interesting. In my high school days back in the 60s I advocated for a simple life skills class that would teach how to balance a checkbook or create a budget. Either none was available or I was on the academic track and was never offered one. My son had something like that.

@@chancevicary1805 yes I agree with that, I feel like it should be offered to all young adults through a public agency if some kind...but I guess what stops someone these days from watching KZfaq videos in basic life skills? I don’t say scrap it in hs all together, but I think there are softer skills that can be covered in hs and then more advanced skills in young adulthood. I’m 36 and I feel like I’ve grasped only in the past few years how taxes really work!

That’s… yes. Finally. Someone making sense!

I always thought that some life skills should be part of math and maybe social studies class (do they still have social studies?). Practical math. A lot of students who claim to be bad at math are masters of sports statistics and use math in every day life. But a lot of the way that math is taught in school seems abstract.

All of my friends were in non-honors classes. Never got asked this. Interesting...

@@imacds i had no friends and i was pretty aggressively told not to push myself at all Am white btw for reference

I'm an Eastern European immigrant in France. So here I'm white, even tho in different contexts it's different. Well, basically, I was sent in a private school and not a public school. Yes the private school was less diverse. But I never even noticed it. But my parents didn't send me there because of minorities. But because the public school had more bullying and the teachers didn't care enough. So that can be the problem I think. White people in America for example might segregate not because of them being specially racist but because the minority school has worse teachers and is generally in a worse neighbourhood. So I think that the government should spend way more money to make all public schools really good, especially in bad and poor neighbourhoods which often have ethnic minorities.

@@gamermapper Agreed. Unfortunately our "school choice" advocates try their hardest to defund public schools. Private schools have the advantage of being able to kick out any student they want whether for delinquency, disability, or any other reason really. It is then up to the public schools and taxpayers to clean up their mess, while the private schools get to profit off of the cheaper kids and richer parents.

Right there with you.

Same. It’s kinda amazing what kinds of things we remember and are expected to know.

Congrats, your a pedant. Dont worry, so am I.

@@gregathol are you trying to bait your fellow pedants with this comment?

@@juliadonati8245 holy shit no I’m just actually that stupid but I like your version of events better, so yes.

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Oh my gosh. That’s horrible. I luckily wasn’t subjugated to that as someone with ADHD. I had to get an IEP but they didn’t force me into classes about how to work in a factory. It’s shocking how different the opportunities people have are.

@@averagejoe6031 i have an iep as well, but bot all who have them are equal. If you have anything questionable about you behavioural study they’ve done on you, you’d have one. Some people have it lucky and only have to take one medication, and an easy dose, at a young age, and can end up being able to cope without it by middle school. Me? I was taking the dosage of a highschool student when i was in grade 6.... only reason I didn’t take it in highschool is because i refused, after growing to dislike the after effect of the drugs. But yeah, some kids they just keep an eye on and work with, and by a later point they can adjust. People further into the severity scale of adhd dont though. They try their best with, as ineffective us their efforts are, And by the time highschool ends, we’ve fallen through the cracks. The lucky ones dont snap from the pressure and drop out by the end. They can only dump so many resources into making sure somebody can get their marks. Its as hard for the school as it is for the student in that situation. They try to modify the work so its on a level we understand, but in turn, we learn way less. In a way, schools have taken the easy way out, By “modifying” the curriculum they allow themselves to save those resources they would otherwise need to invest in those same affected students, But that costs time and money, and only weakens the classist system that was happily set in place by normal minded people. Its a whole clusterfuck of shit that comes together, all to keep dudes with ADHD down in terms of educational worth. There are 4 levels of to this classist system, too. Academic, for the gifted and rich. Applied, for the blue collar joe. Voc-1, for the borderline (the worst spot to be because nobody will take you seriously both above and below you), And Voc-2, for the mentally handicapped. The highschool i went to ONLY had voc 1 and 2. Before highschool started, i was essentially spat at by my peers for having to go there, instead of the normal school to take applied classes. Suddenly the line in the sand was drawn and it was deemed ok to shit on because, well, now there was reason. Its like suddenly, for lack pf a better comparison, i was black and they were white. TO THIS DAY i get looked at funny for admitting i went there for 3 years until i dropped out. It was bullshit, putting up with that, My anxiety issues, My severe adhd, And schoolwork, Just to get what homie in the video described as a sub par education Wild part it, Im actually applying to get my GED right now, And for once I’ll be on my own, No bullshit from the school system interfering. I work at my own pace. Yeah, im on my own to find the answer, But thats hows it was dropping out of school too. Its gonna be hard, but in different ways. Now i call the shots, and with that, i feel way more confident attempting to tackle the whole highschool diploma thing. I had a band, and apparently after a discussion i had with a staff member of the board, i can get a credit based on that, towards my diploma.... like yo fuck voc-1.... im out here using my old band from 2014 as a way to graduate, dude. Im taking the fuck-all worthy passion project i did OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL, pure punk rock ethic shit, and im turning that into something positive. Im proud of that, i did that for myself, with the help of my friends and bandmates. Thats bigger than anything any school curriculum could teach me.

I have adhd and dysgraphia, and i was put into a remedial learning class instead of French because I had an iep. Biggest waste of time of my life.

@@Dancingonthesun and thats because they didn’t send you to a school like mine, Where i went, we didnt have to take the forced french class in grade 9. Unless you were a catholic, If you grew up where i did, You’d have a 98% chance of ending up at that same school. The plucked kids from all over, (If you grew up in the gta you know) You could’ve lived out in brampton, or as far as 5&10, and all the way out across through oakville, You weren’t safe. You’d probably end up at west credit if you had an iep and weren’t catholic. And even then, there was only about 250 people who went there in the 3 years i spent there. They had to fill them halls and discriminate against us somehow... lol Might as well make a school instead of leave these kids be and try to put fourth an effort. Instead it was same shit, different pile

Oooh and we can't forget that IEPs are often ignored, outright by teachers and administration. Oh it's so much fun trying to force a school to respect an IEP...

I don't get why it bothers people im ok with either but prefer longer videos. If i need to stop and come back i just do that. Plus it gives more chances for detail and reaching more topics. But thats just my opinion.

I like frequent shorter videos. Depth in anything may seem to call for longer videos, but you could make a series.

3, 20 minute videos a week.

That's life. Parents whom are willing to or capable of providing better opportunities for their children's education will reap benefits for doing so (A Black former honor student whom's parents paid for tutors to get him ahead, and is now doing the same for his daughter)

@@3rdfitzgerald in the UK the Asian's have a saying education education education doctors ect earn good money

My “gifted/AP experience was totally different from what was portrayed in the video. A lot of minorities like me in the system and there was no weekend test or anything. They went by your grades and test scores and all were done in school during school hours, and this was over 10 years ago. I am in California so that might make a difference

@@3rdfitzgerald reap benefits for doing get him ahead get him ahead get him ahead get him ahead get him ahead get him ahead get him ahead get him ahead get him ahead get him ahead

onlycorner Correct, hopefully my decedents live a life I could only dream of thanks to the work I've put in and the work all my progeny will have put in

The mountain of knowledge to climb never ends, it just gets steeper and everyone slowly drifts apart. But it helps to look back once in a while and enjoy the view.

Yep, calc humbled me too 😕

@@dearyvettetn4489 - Derivatives were pretty fun and fairly intuitive. Integrals though... fuck integrals. When the answer to every problem boils down to, "lol, just know the answer", that's when it stops being fun.

@@KingBobXVI Strange... According to my recollection from 30 years ago integrals were also intuitive. Just calculating the area under a graf is doable. But just knowing saves time... But what do I know, I am just a Dutch tax lawyer...

Mine was trigonometry at the time

It might be a relief to know that research has found the effects of teacher expectations on students are statistically small and short-lived. See Jussim, L., & Harber, K. D. (2005). Teacher expectations and self-fulfilling prophecies: Knowns and unknowns, resolved and unresolved controversies. Personality and social psychology review, 9(2), 131-155.

Probably because teachers are not the ones actually expecting all that much from their students - teachers very often just expect the student to complete the work they assign. Parents and the other adults in the kids' lives have a much bigger impact because they're more familiar and/or they'll keep up the war drum beat a lot longer, leading to deeply ingrained expectations.

We dont have gifted or anything but I was always pretty advanced in school (year ahead, did calc two years ahead). I have always hated myself and never, ever for a second have believed I am gifted or talented beyond at most "slightly above average", but also have always held extremely high expectations for myself. Dropped out of Uni after my motivation just vanished and I tried to commit suicide in January but didn't OD enough to die. I think you're right that expectations make real life very depressing as very few people make it as far as they want and if you've always aimed for the top (or been there in earlier school/feel entitled to it) it hits extremely hard.

@@randomname9723 Reading this was like reading the Choose Your Own Adventure about me and seeing what the other option was. I was right there with ya in the dropping out of uni but I havent felt so depressed to attempt to kill myself again. I wish you the best and hope you can get the support you need to restart or find a new path.

I was in those enrichment classes in high school (I lived in a small town so they weren't available earlier). I also went into suicidal depression into university because I couldn't keep up anymore (I now know I have ADD and the lack of structure really hurt me). When you're labelled as gifted, you put a lot of your value into your good grades, especially if you have poor self-esteem.

My school in a rural area provides free internet and chrome books.

@@kieran.c7684 Not all Rural areas will be able to do the same.

My family member teaches at a community college in New York. She says some students type their essays on cell phones. They don't even have computers.

For the end of last school year when lockdown started, my district was like "don't worry we put wifi in the parking lot" People didn't have devices... Or cars... Or the ability to sit in a parking lot for 4+ hours a day... but who's keeping track? They told staff just to not grade kids harshly. Ok bud

Many of the parents didn't even know how to sign in when Chromebooks finally got handed out. It was awful. I couldn't go near anyone to help in person, but if I tried to help anyone online or by phone, they didn't have the vocabulary to explain anything they were having issues with and they didn't understand what i was trying to tell them, even though my everyday job is communicating clearly with kids who have language delays. The parents were so stressed out about it, it was terrible

When he got to that bit about how black students are discouraged from taking high-level courses I had to look back. When I wanted to sign up for all AP and Honors courses, my counselor kept pushing saying I'd have "too much homework all the time". When I was looking to graduate with a 4.1 GPA, 4s and 5s on all my AP Exams, and a 33 on my ACT, he recommended me to my local Community College. I'm so glad I knew he was full of shit from the beginning.

Why are you feeling bad about parents having the financial means to better your education? That's an amazing thing.

That is already late news, many start at the age of 2-3

Me a "Hopefully"(Trying to get on SSI) disabled person who would have been a middle school dropout if it was not for homeschooling. I felt threatened when he was acting like he wanted to cancel homeschooling because of the 92% do it wrong. And for the record I took the FCAT a Florida mandated grade exit exam and got a real degree a few years late but still.

I teach ballet to 1rst graders for a living 👏. It honestly feels mean to make a first grader sit through academic tutoring after school if they're not actually having trouble. 😭😭 Like, you can't help them with their homework yourself ? Sounds like a great way to put them off the whole idea of school lol. I dont know a single 6 year old, who's NOT already struggling in school who would appreciate academic tutoring 😂😂

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THIS!

I don’t agree that exposure breeds tolerance. It would be nice but . . .

Rule by the hoard

@Cassandra Tafoya Same, the socioeconomic problems are huge. Poor parents don't have the time or money to give the same care to their children. And minorities tend to be poor because of history. Because of that they don't get as good an education and are more likely to stay poor. Young children that were not raised to act right at home, don't learn it in school grouped with other children like them, and thus never learn. Those with money want a better education for their children, so move to an area with, or pay for a better schools, which ensures the rich schools stay better, and the poor are further disadvantaged. There are so many feedback loops and self fulfilling prophecies that it is a very difficult problem to solve even for well meaning people.

@Merula Amethyst But you choose AP classes...

@@marw9541 -- what does that have to do with anything they said?

I went to a like 40% White, 40% Black, 20% other school and it was wonderful. Yes, I lived in probably the wealthiest neighborhood in the district (which still wasn't that wealthy), and graduated in the top 10% of my HS class. But it was a wonderful experience. I'm glad I didn't go to a 80% White school.

1961, but yeah lol, that was pretty funny for me

I’ve seen that video. Just swap out the word “homosexual” with pedophile and it’s actually pretty accurate

I don’t know why but edgy humor made that video funny to me

Wow. Sounds like a company offering the exact same job as 'entry level', 'Level II', and 'Senior' or something, but different wages for each. In both cases, they might put each of those jobs or classes in different tracks so no one is promoted into the next level of the same job.

Yours is much different than mine was. I was in the "advanced" classes, and my friend was in the "regular" classes. We would joke about how he has it so easy. I was jealous of him at the time because only occasionally had homework, and I had homework all the time. His tests for the various subjects were so easy that he hardly ever had to crack a book (he could just pay attention in class) and float by with fairly easy B's. It was definitely not that way for my classes. We would occasionally compare and contrast our classes, but not too much honestly. And his classes were pretty basic. I don't know how it is in other schools, but that's how it was for mine. Mine was a minority-majority school, and our graduation rate was horrible. There's no reasonable way to assume that if "regular" classes were more challenging, that more people would have graduated, and there's no reasonable argument as to why it would have been a good thing to not give the "advanced" kids a challenge by placing them in "regular" classes. Schools sure as hell aren't going to raise their standards overall, because that would mean less kids graduate. So, I'm honestly not sure what the solution is. Raising overall standards would be a good thing, but that has played out in various places, and it inevitably ends with lawsuits and complaints over lack of equity in terms of graduation rates. If you're not going to raise standards, and you don't want the hardworking or "smart" kids to suffer due to lack of challenge, then you're left with...honors or advanced classes.

Then you look around the make-up of each tier. Seriously, I was in an honors class for a few years. 2 black kids, 3 hispanic kids, 2asian kids, and everyone else was white. +80% black school.

@@adamrad2220 Same I did take some "regular" classes in highschool, but it was legitimately just students running the classroom, and basic tests I would have glossed over in 5th Grade. Meanwhile my AP classes were some of the hardest I ever had, including 4 years of electrical engineering. There is a serious socioeconomic divide, and while it is perpetuated by racism and classism, by the time the damage is done it has a very real impact on how even a playing field students start and end on.

​@@adamrad2220 Shit man I feel so bad for you. In the heat of my Cali. school years, I worked through stepping into someone's shoes and out of both the "honor" and "regular" classes. In my last years of Middle school the Honors Science and Science teachers would teach similar subjects but once in a lifetime only got to the same subject just put extra questions to paste few extra points. Same for one of my class, English Honors which not only read the same books but put with "advance" questions while the "regular" classes get to do the easy ones or what the teacher assigns. In my freshman of HS regular classes and honor classes would be in the same subject just taught differently. Like when second semester started and I had Geomentry our class was a week ahead then anyone else and guess after 4 months in (3 term), WE'RE STILL AHEAD OF THEM; however in all seriousness, it was only the subject of math every freshman students came together. Though it was the only because math teachers get to give out the same worksheets but teach differently. In my HS of other english teachers, they would teach it accordingly to their own ways of answering the question instead of teaching how to solve the comprehensive questions. Or that could just be my HS and not anywhere else.

"rifle with abuse"? That sounds like a US school

Residential schools in Canada were more about genocide than education

@@oliviergagnon8719 mainly cultural genocide but yes.

Is it, or is it something alike orphanage mortality

@@2adamast you would have to turn an awfully blind eye to what happened in these places to compare it to mortality rates in orphanages. These kids weren't orphans, they were well cared for before they were removed. Countless survivors of these institutions have described in great detail the abuses they suffered, and the deaths they witnessed.

Me too, especially as a German. Here, "American Education" is basically a meme. :|

@@fr0nzp Oh so how like the Berlin Airport from that one Wendover Productions video is a meme. Also in Germany do you do standardized testing?

@@kittykittybangbang9367 legit no idea what you are saying

@@fr0nzp Honestly, even here it's a meme

well the US school system still sucks

Literally no one sees it that way, the only reason you do is bc youre racist.

Yep, welcome to reality schools often have interesting reputations that aren't well rooted in the truth, though when their funding is dictated like it is in the USA that means it becomes self fulfilling as the funding to the public schools declines compared to the privates. And you're seeing it pushed harder since 2016 thanks to people like DeVos with charter schools.

That's the "popular" opinion, but it seems to be something espoused in popular media rather than the reality. My public school had college dual credit classes but we also had rowdy kids that blocked hallways to socialize in the 7 minutes we had to walk to class and a stabbing and plenty of fights. Private schools just weed out the kids who don't have anything on the line if they do bad things (our school stabber came back before the end of the year after he made parole, and no he wasn't white)

@@sparkyUSA1976 Sucks your parents raised you somewhere shitty, you have my sympathies

@@marw9541 you just proved everyone's point 👉🏽

I was looking for a comment similar to my experiences! I was put in special Ed in first grade due to behavioral problems. I'm also ADHD an a few other diagnosis. The system truly failed me.

Looking back at my middle and high school years kids that were special needs were all in the back portables and they were treated like convicts and just passed along grades , now I feel so bad for them we didn't bully them or anything because we were forced bus to integrate the majority white school so we were treated just as bad as the kid's in the portables. I would never let my kids go to public/political school.

@@irvin5839 what you seem to lack here, as no one has agreed with you, is a wider perspective on this issue: Your experience isn't the only experience that has ever happened bruh, and in order for your own healing to begin, you need to try and understand that other perspectives and experiences exist. Then, and only then, can you start looking at life with love instead of selfishness.

@stacyfiske7903 it's my experience that I related I wasn't looking for agreement, I've raised 2 kids successfully by my self and given the tools to go out in this world not looking for someone to agree with them on any social media platform now when you have walk in my shoes and experience my life and raised a family on your on with the odds against you then you can comment. Have a nice day .

I was halfway through my senior year the first time I heard about executive functionig and how I don't have it. There were two whole years I never learned the names of my facilitators because I never saw them

This comment makes my day.

Whoever cant manage stem or dont have guts to take risks gouse to law.. Congratulation

@@damianpos8832 Dumb comment is dumb.

I remember those career predicting tests. They were more psychological than aptitudinal, and all they predicted was what type of job you'd be happiest doing, not what you would be good at.

Who gives a shit about those tests? It obviously didn’t force you into that line of work. I can’t believe your mad about aptitude tests. Plus, you still may flunk out of law school or be a shitty lawyer.

The people who love him benefit from the systems and customs Reagan put in place, everyone far enough removed from that and has empathy for the (vast majority) of people who are hurt by them fucking hate him

The US had a good economy when he was president, therefore people liked him. Simple as that.

@@oswaldrabbit1409 If by "good economy" you mean the soaring stock market before the 1987 crash.

Not really him its Willsssson!

He's the conservative version of FDR or Wilson

Yeah. That was pretty well done

Ask for help! I turned down the offers of tutoring and study skills because of pride and “I’ve always been able to get good grades, my way is fine...” Not realizing how unprepared I was for actually difficult academics. I lost all my scholarships and floundered for decades trying to figure out how I had fallen so low from the pedestal public school placed me on. Trying to figure out what you want and need from life when your whole life you’re told “be a doctor, be president, you’re bound to succeed!” can be discouraging. Stick with your classes; finish everything! Even if you don’t pursue that track, all knowledge helps broaden your world and illuminates your possible paths to your future. PS it’s okay to fail! Pick yourself up and try again. Don’t pick the sure path out of fear of not measuring up.

@@nightfall3605 yeah thanks dude! I’m slowly learning and getting better at all that and wow it takes a lot of experimentation to find what works best

My biggest piece of advice as a lazy honors/AP student but mostly successful college grad is to find a study group. Also, talk with your professors a lot.

Damn, my gifted program was so stressful I have to go to a private school because the assignments were affecting my mental health

As someone who was considered the most inttelligent in the class, same

It sounds like you problem has nothing to do with the race of the kids. The problem is the culture of certain groups not having the parental support they need. This isn’t a problem that just affects black people of Latino people but any person of any race or gender without a good nuclear household

Yes, but due to historic economic unfairness towards minorities that means that it disproportionally affects them. Saying it's a culture issue, not a systemic issue is kind of a dog whistle, sorry.

@@game_go_burrr Refusal to consider the cultural angle only makes things worse for more kids who will lack stable 2-parent households, and therefore lack an environment that's conducive to good education and moral behavior. It has been conclusively proven that kids in single-parent households are more likely to drop out of school and more likely to commit crimes. And it's not only black culture that should change in America. White American culture is now heavily gripped by narcissism, performative outrage, and style over substance that is making an embarrassment of us all, and allowing more and more issues to fester as people like you are distracted by nonsense that doesn't matter. We must solve problems, not spout platitudes.

@@Morrigi192 did you even watch the video? I'm not saying culture doesn't have anything to due with it, but I feel like you're just trying to pin the problem on nothing so you can avoid a reality check. Sure white households have problems, but are you really so ignorant as to say that racial discrimination isn't as big of a deal as white narcissism?

The whole point is that white families in my area have a culture of being more involved in their kid's education, they can only do this, because they can take time off their jobs and have the income to send their child with things to pamper their teachers. That's a culture, but it's one rooted in income and knowing English, something that means it's heavily stacked against the prominent Hispanic community in my area.

The fuck

"Kindergarten entrance interviews and exams" Holy shit

wow great anecdote

I bet that 3 year old will grow up to have good mental health and a flourishing social life

@@joedubner5846 They can and do. I don't get where people have this idea that if you make your kid study more than the basic school requirement he'll lose mental health or social skills.

Same with me ...R.N.

Could you Tell why?

@@Verspassungsschutz the lack of a coherent response to the pandemic.

No...did you even watch the video? I gave personal experience that backs up what KB is citing. These tests don't test how smart you are, same with IQ tests. It's a bad indicator. I didn't even touch on the fact that I'm a white dude from a nice, well off, small town. It cost money to get the study material. It cost money to retake the test. I had to work less so I could study more, which I could afford because my job was just for my own spending money- my parents completely took care of me. The poorer black kids in the closest "big" city wouldn't have had the same luxury as me. That doesn't mean I worked harder or was smarter, I had better opportunities because of where and how I was born.

@David Lightman Race and class are deeply intertwined, and that is not by accident. Just because there are poor white communities does not disprove that. You're just proving that the "woke garbage" of this video is correct.

I mean, the ACT and other standardized tests test how good you are at studying. To do well on one of them, really nothing is needed other than doing practice tests and going over them. When I was in middle/high school, I did a whole lot of math competitions. I loved math and studied for them. One thing I learned was that no matter how good your math knowledge is, you're not going to do well if you don't study for that specific test. You can know all of the individual subjects that are going to be on the test but if you don't practice with actual problems from said test, there's only so well you can do. While I don't think that these tests are measuring intelligence, I do think that they're measuring how willing you are to putting effort into studying for these tests. Some could argue that that is an equally useful skill and important if you go onto higher education. I don't know.

@David Lightman Fighting the good fight sir. I came to these comments looking for someone with a little bit of sanity because when I reached the end of this video I could not believe it wasn’t a hoax. I‘ve never seen knowing better take such an obvious stance in anything and it’s rather scary

@David Lightman "Poor people don't learn skills" lmao. Sounds like someone hasn't been poor. Poor people learn the skills necessary to survive being poor.

Same in the United States.

If "why" is already being taught in class, than that would be indoctrination

@@cv4809 How is that indoctrination?

@@IkeOkerekeNews lol no. The best example I can think of to illustrate that you’re wrong is how math is taught: math isn’t taught in US schools by discussing mathematic philosophy in conjunction with the practical application of mathematic formulas. Mathematics are instead taught here by throwing a bunch of formulas at students and telling them to memorize them. It’s not the same at all.

​@@zenleeparadise i actually learn mathematic philosophy and i'm in the US! i guess it changed here too, at least in certain states.

yeah same with AP classes

Can we all not acknowledge that if you barely passed Freshman English with a D, you likely would’ve been aggressively talked out of signing up for Honors English the following year, even if the AP/honors classes were technically accessible to everyone? Like even if they don’t literally make you take a test or something at a given school (though at some this is definitely a requirement? there’s still walls put up for certain people to prevent them from accessing these classes. I don’t understand why everyone in this comment section is being so deliberately obtuse about this and pretending that these classes could’ve been taken by literally anyone and everyone. It’s just so obviously not true.

@@zenleeparadise what? There aren’t any walls. I went to school in Texas, one of the most conservative states in the nation. If you got a failing grade in a honors class, you were forced to go into an on level course. Other wise there was no barrier to being in higher end classes. There wasn’t any kind of entrance test or anything like that, you just signed up for honors classes. There weren’t limited seats either, They just created more honors classes if it was necessary. Maybe your the one being obtuse about it. If everyone in the comment section is saying the same thing than maybe, just maybe that’s how things are.

@@k-popistrash8974 I didn’t say anything about it being a conservative-state issue, my guy. If you’ve always been a good student maybe you don’t understand this, but if you nearly failed Freshman English, literally every single adult who had any say in the matter would’ve been aggressively advocating for you to not sign up for an AP class, even if it was technically an option. If you’re unwilling to recognize this it’s either because you’re being obtuse or because privilege is blinding you. You literally didn’t directly respond to a single thing I said.

@@zenleeparadise I’m assuming this is a personal antidote and there is nothing wrong with it. If you almost failed freshman English it probably wouldn’t be great for you to take AP classes, that’s not discrimination that’s common sense.