Seicento vs Panda - Small Fiat Family Feud!

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Small Fiat BATTLE! Turin was producing some of the best small cars around back the late 1990s and early 2000s, but is the little and lithe Seicento or boxy practical Panda best? There's only one way to find out...
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@PaulinhoThompson 3 жыл бұрын

Best part of the video for me was when you stepped out of the Panda and turned to the camera, genuinely impressed with how your channel is progressing Joe.

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul, means a lot! 😁👍

@GaryInAmsterdam Ай бұрын

Three years late, I'm loving your Panda related videos!

@telekouti 3 жыл бұрын

I used to dream of an affordable three car garage that consists of a cinquecento sporting, as the sport car, a panda 4x4, as the off road one and a lancia Y10, as the luxury car. Yes I am a fire engine, small italian car fanboy. As for the choice between the seicento and the panda, I would have gone with the seicento again.

@groundhoglife 2 жыл бұрын

I love the panda’s, I recently bought the new cross version and have had many of my neighbours in their big flash BMW’s and mercs laughing. That soon stopped when we recently had floods and they broke down in a major flooded road not far from where I live. I just ploughed through the water in the cross and had the last laugh 😁 . Great channel by the way, just subbed 👍

@studiocalder818 Жыл бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@FuelPower 3 жыл бұрын

I love my Panda 100hp. The FIRE does love to be revved out to get the best out of it and it is incredibly fun but the noise, oh the induction noise with the exhaust note is just 😍 I do like the Seicento as a car but can't say much on it as never owned nor driven one to date though I do kind of see them like the Classic Mini, small, light, a wheel in each corner so great handling, seats 4 but you wouldn't want to for massively long trips etc.

@LOUISJB7 3 жыл бұрын

There was no direct replacement for the Seicento. The Palio, Panda & 500 all took the small city car slot. Cinquecento translates to 500 & Seicento translates to 600. Panda & 500 are very similar apart from the body shell, even the floor plans the same. We use a panda at work and they’re surprisingly roomy!

@Zlin0035 11 ай бұрын

my mate had a Sei Sporting, was honestly one of the most terrifying car's I've driven.. mostly cuz when you brake it veered widely to the left and then suddenly Right, but it felt faster than its 55hp would suggest. I've always been a Honda fan myself, but Fiat does some cars that I absolutely love like the 20v Coupe and the original Panda 4x4.

@stevejelly3161 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Miller !!! .... The Fiat Seicento was the "Super Mini" that never was !!! .... And now due to it's age they kinda hit buyer resistance for that reason !!! .... Wouldn't the concept back then have been amazing if people "customized" them by adding quality extras to the interior such as extra sound proofing, quality carpet overlays , sawed inserts , and "creature comforts" like a vacuum gauge , a rev counter, and a quality speaker system to add to the stereo ??? .... Miller they look as if they would drive and sound "shabby" when the noise levels and power output is almost like an old Volvo !!! ..... They really are fantastic little cars (to say the least) !!!!! .... THANKS FOR READING !!!

@itsmephil2255 3 жыл бұрын

Why do I have "Jessica" by The Allman brothers playing in my head??? Great video Joe 👍

@PKWeaver74 Жыл бұрын

The Fiat Panda 169 is the greatest automobile ever built.

@debbiehayes2447 3 жыл бұрын

What can I say I have the Panda and I can say the best small town car ever designed ! Love any small fiat . The gearbox is great !

@graemew7001 Жыл бұрын

Apart from the alloys I have the very same car as your Mother. I've had it 2 years and put 15k on it (now 105k) and I love the little car, it suits my needs perfectly and is great even 4 up, even on the motorway, averaging 45 mpg overall. The only real bugs that annoy are no 12v outlet and the sunvisors are huge, being 6 ft tall they block the windscreen but apart from that no complaints.

@davidjenkins351 3 жыл бұрын

I use to own the 90s vertion of the panda 998cc nice car goung on what I can remember from back in the day never driven the newer version great video keep up with the good work

@TheRealEmile 3 жыл бұрын

Had a 2005 Panda Active 1.1, Guacamole Green and Yellow Interior as a first car bloody brilliant thing, very fond memories and amazingly it still seems to be banging about somewhere coming up to 100k miles! Went a very different path with my next few cars but I do slightly miss that Italian charm

@_generation_youth_x28 3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: In 2006 fiat produced an experimental hydrogen fuel cell fiat panda called the panda hydrogen or hydro for short. And in 2007 fiat took two 4x4 pandas and prepared it for dakar where they got to the fourth stage whilst being simply modified versions of the production variant.

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

The PanDakar was awesome! Would love to build a replica one myself 😎

@_generation_youth_x28 3 жыл бұрын

@@MillerCorner yeah!! Maybe that could be your next project, if I was given a modern panda I’d either spec it out with hydraulics for disabled buyers and sell it on as a practical small wheel chair friendly car. These sell for quite a lot over their used car prices and would be a great way to give the car a new purpose as some older or less fortunate financially people can’t afford newer or grander cars for this. An off-road pandakar would be really cool but id still have to go for the 74 panda as it’s just lighter and more mechanical.

@benholroyd5221 3 жыл бұрын

3:53 Channelling Mr Clarkson I see. ....In the world. PS I own a Panda. You missed the 2 biggest annoyances, the parcel shelf that wont stay up, and the radio volume that resets to a too low level. I actually don't mind the handling. although I preferred it before I had to replace the shocks for the MOT. It had a nice 2CV vibe.

@davidcoates350 3 жыл бұрын

The Panda is a great car, Wifey owned owned hers for 9 years. Needed consumables and that was that. I would have one as a 2nd car no problem, much better on the motorway than the Sei.

@Filipe1020 3 жыл бұрын

The Panda 100hp would be amazing to have, sadly they never sold that car here in Brazil and neither the Cinquecento or Seicento, we just got the Uno and Palio as compacts.

@grumblespeed1152 3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact - the 169 Panda didn't replace the Seicento. It replaced the old 141 Panda! They were actually still making & selling the old Pandas in European markets right up until 2003 when the new one came out.

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

So you're saying I could buy a 2002 141 Panda? 😱 Whereabouts were they sold...? 👀

@grumblespeed1152 3 жыл бұрын

@@MillerCorner Right across Europe, obviously not in great numbers outside Italy but they were still available. It was only the RHD version they phased out when the Cinq came out.

@01howardproductions92 3 жыл бұрын

@@MillerCorner and even in the uk you could still buy one in 2004 and the panda came out in 2003

@iainjones537 3 жыл бұрын

Well there was the 141 which was the Mk 1 and the 141a which was the Mk 2. I had a 1988 Super as my first car, and I drove that like an Italian, which resulted in the combustion chambers on cylinders 3 and 4 becoming one. Got a 1993 Super after that, added a Cinquecento Sporting top end that had a DIY port job, and found the K&N air filter for a Ford Fiesta XR2 bolted straight on. The needle went past the top speed of 100 after that. Was going to fab an exhaust with a cherry bomb backbox to complement the intake mods, but there was too much rust by then, so went off to other things after that. Still got a soft spot for little Italian cars, though!

@01howardproductions92 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly the kind of video style 😀

@Surfinbadger 3 жыл бұрын

Yaaaaas!!!! Thank you for doing a panda video, absolute legend.

@jobeppe 3 жыл бұрын

If you'll ever come to Italy in Sardinia, I'll let you drive and review my 1994 Autobianchi Y10 1.1i.e., the car where the FIRE engine was born. My mother bought it new in 1994 and it is still with us, going strong!

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome car! I'd love to drive one 😁

@Darrenbatteson.531 3 жыл бұрын

Had a 2006 panda 1.2 dynamic and currently a 2016 panda pop great cars

@maxeluy 3 жыл бұрын

I like the Seicento more, those rectangle fog lights and the agressive bumper are awesome!. But I want a Yellow Cinquecento Sporting... One was on sale in 2020, i had the money (4900 US dollars, yes cars here are expensive) and i let it go... I regret that...

@luckyeddie1943 2 жыл бұрын

Just bought a 2011 Panda 1.2 looks great in red. previous fiat was a doblo camper. my name is also Joe.

@thedirectionoflife5384 3 жыл бұрын

Ah I love Fiats, looks like I‘m the first comment!

@nippynidge 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid - good old Pandas, I love ‘em.

@_generation_youth_x28 3 жыл бұрын

I’m getting a seicento and my friend has a panda! Rivalry central.

@01howardproductions92 3 жыл бұрын

I think the 95-2000 fiesta looks quite cute in encore or Ghia in my opinion

@01howardproductions92 3 жыл бұрын

1:55

@RayovacWorkhorse 3 жыл бұрын

Yup, far as I know the 1.1s are the only ones with a throttle cable (mine has one anyway!). 1.2 and up is fly by wire iirc. If you boot the throttle in mine from a stop you can get a bit of wheelspin! They really are a lot more practical than you'd think, I've camped in mine, moved big furniture (including a double bed, frame and mattress in one go!) and helped people move house with it. The genuine roof rack is a must too IMO, looks great on it! With all the stuff I've put in (sound deadening, good stereo+sub, etc...) it's not bad on the motorway either, decent for long journeys, although it does die a bit on hills.

@sheepdog8442 2 жыл бұрын

My old 96 Lancia Y had a throtle cable. I think all Weber central injections did. I think no 169 panda got weber and throtle cable. And yes the cable makes it so much more responsive then my Stilo fire1.2 16v.

@JimmyThomasjtpro14 3 жыл бұрын

All you’re missing is a mk2 Punto!

@maxlightyear2181 2 жыл бұрын

In Italy, we call that a Fiat Panda mk2 (facelift-restyle). The mk3 is the 2012 version 🤔 btw I love your channel! My sister has a 600, my dad has a panda and I have a Punto mk2 facelift lol Greetings from Italy!!

@_generation_youth_x28 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone Remember the 74 panda 4x4! Also you should definitely do more vs with fiat, like new vs old 500, punto vs tipo vs stilo. Fiat uno vs cinquecento..

@benholroyd5221 3 жыл бұрын

My childminder had one. awful tartan trim! My prior childminder has an Opel Manta. I preferred that.

@tomekandrykowski 3 жыл бұрын

Ive been to Rome on holiday last year and was suprised to see the old 4x4 pandas still driving on the roads living their best life 😁

@wessexTim 3 жыл бұрын

Thinking of buying a second hand Panda,so very useful video,Thanks for the video.

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Tim, they're cracking little cars!

@geeteshrajkumar7443 3 жыл бұрын

I bought 2007 1.2 dynamic semiautomatic for 950pounds. It has run only 48k. As a new driver really enjoying it. For this price cheap insurance and road tax I couldn't find any model with 5 doors. Going to keep for life💕💕

@julesvandenheiligenberg6187 3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with you Joe. both amazing cars We have a 2003 panda With cable throttle. ( they did an update on the FIRE engine, due to emmisions.)

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud, I love them both 😁 I'll almost certainly own a Panda one day, will DEFINITELY be one with cable throttle 😉

@julesvandenheiligenberg6187 3 жыл бұрын

In the same baby blue as i do?😏

@dgillam9989 3 жыл бұрын

Had Fiats from the begging of the70s 127 128 estate 128 salon last one panda 2010 new. great little car.

@Richard-Bullock 3 жыл бұрын

As much as I like the Seicento and Panda, and I really do like them, they would be my 4th and 5th choice in the small Fiat range. 1st - Fiat 500 classic. 2nd - Fiat 126. 3rd - Fiat Cinquecento. 4th - Fiat Seicento. 5th - Fiat Panda. I have owned 2 500's. A 1970 500 L and a 1971 500 L. I've also owned a 2009 Panda 1.2 ECO Dynamic in bright orange. I loved that car, until the rear suspension packed up completely.

@Ktmandsuzuki 3 жыл бұрын

Panda 100hp is amazing car so much fun to drive

@aldo_agazzi 3 жыл бұрын

sadly for me (an Italian) i have to admit that the cool family-fiats are actually NOT the italian ones... you should check out and maybe import ( is easier in the UK for collectors) the brasilian Fiat Uno, the brasilian Fiat Mobi and the brasilian Fiat Argo-Trekking.... in Italy we had the same Panda for a decade, at least Latin America got the successors.

@markonmotoring 3 жыл бұрын

Small Fiat's have that something lost on current hot hatchbacks. That's why I daily a Fiat 500S TwinAir 105 as it's fun above all else. Just as you say, numbers only tell part of the story.

@CheekyCultured Жыл бұрын

I have a Panda 100hp and I am very keen to see if you can do a comparison between my one and the Seicento Sporting!

@DanielDrives 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Joe! A very interesting comparison🤔 For me, it has to be the Panda, but the Seicento is an equally fantastic car.

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

I can't imagine why you'd be biased towards the Panda, Dan 😉

@DanielDrives 3 жыл бұрын

@@MillerCorner me neither😉

@marcoaita4620 2 жыл бұрын

Schade das du keine Videos mehr machst😢die Auto Videos waren immer super👍

@carobsessions4707 3 жыл бұрын

FIAT PUNTO Specially Indian Version is Built Like Tank Solid car more than polo 1200 kgs Heavy weight high tensile steel Body. Best in segment ride handling high speed stability Other brands are maybe near but no one equal to Fiat Punto in India. Ride Quality of Linea And Punto almost equal with Honda civic In India

@OdykKayne 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely, both of them! As much as I love the Seicento, though, I think I'd rather the Panda! A 100HP would do me fine....or a Panda 4x4 Cross. Would make a great daily and either would still be fun in their way! :D Great to see the little red Seicento back again! How's your brother doing?

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

Ooh good choice, my friend :D he's smashing it in practice sessions, here's hoping we can get him in for his test post-covid 🤞

@OdykKayne 3 жыл бұрын

@@MillerCorner Awesome, yup....COVID has really thrown a wrench into things....hopefully he can get in fairly quickly! :) Are they rolling out vaccinations there?

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

They are indeed, but being in the youngest age range with no health conditions and not working an essential/frontline job means we're quite far down the priority list...

@OdykKayne 3 жыл бұрын

@@MillerCorner Same....they are still only focusing on seniors and health care professionals here so far! The rollout in Canada is slow....crossing fingers things can just keep on rolling back towards normal! :)

@jamiebrown2529 3 жыл бұрын

Panda 169 is just better, I have owned plenty of both. Panda 169 is the best Panda they have made, with it not really being any bigger then the original, but so much more practical. Just as fun to drive as a Sei, my 169 Panda never come off the rev limiter, like all Fiats should be driven.

@mach1nefan 3 жыл бұрын

What do you think of the new fully electric 500e?

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

Love the looks and like how Fiat are moving with the times! The range and charging infrastructure are the concerns as ever, so I'll stick to dinosaur burning Fiats for now 😁

@polloloci21 3 жыл бұрын

4:53. Haha

@Gerjan93 3 жыл бұрын

next time seicento Abarth vs Panda 100hp would love to see a test from you on both cars

@davesimms5677 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 100h if Joe wants one to review.

@pdtech4524 3 жыл бұрын

Panda all day long!! 😎👍⚠️

@florjanbrudar692 Жыл бұрын

13:18 No, in 2004

@selliewellsellars3568 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry mate i'm a fiat bloke and love em all - but it's got to be the panda any day, i'll show you my panda one day.

@paultaylor9652 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely Jubbly video, it's a draw for me, each of them in there own generation

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul, there are no losers here!

@jamesphilpott4241 3 жыл бұрын

I've had 5 people adult in mine

@lloydvehicleconsulting 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, Mr Miller, I am afraid that having driven Mr Bill from Wull's Wheels' Fiat 100 HP on Sensible Secondhand Reviews recently, I do prefer the Mark II Panda....

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

Mr Lloyd...we are no longer friends! 😉

@lloydvehicleconsulting 3 жыл бұрын

@@MillerCorner , yes we are, sir, as you still have my Rover 45 V6 to review!

@CortinasAndClassics 3 жыл бұрын

joe have you driven an original Fiat Panda?

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

Not yet, but I'm driving one for work in the next few weeks! Keep your eye on the Classics World channel 😉

@CortinasAndClassics 3 жыл бұрын

@@MillerCorner Oh cool I will :)

@TheAntirossi 2 жыл бұрын

I love fiat 600 ❤️🇮🇹🇮🇹

@oliverstemp9132 3 жыл бұрын

The Panda was such a good small car, and the seicento is fun.

@oliverstemp9132 3 жыл бұрын

What do you think of the 500 (2007-

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

Good little cars! They do sacrifice Panda practicality for style a bit though :/ have you seen my Abarth 500 video? 😁

@winandd8649 3 жыл бұрын

Mark 3 panda? Mark 2 that is..

@MillerCorner 3 жыл бұрын

Technically the facelift MK1 was classed as the Mk2 🤓

@winandd8649 3 жыл бұрын

@@MillerCorner Hm, i notice a difference in the NL wiki page and the EN wiki page. Mark x is something else than Generation x :-) 'Mark x' is not commonly used here, we call it a 'facelift', but when i google panda mk2, it's clear that you are right! Great, learned somethin new today 😉 nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Panda en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Panda