Missing units: Isillen (dark elf ranger) Decent unit in siege off, 4th tier.
@Arthrexx4 ай бұрын
Isillen is actually pretty good counter to Dark Asura. Pair her with the rat and Triana and just see dots fly everywhere. Basically hard counters one of the more common nat 4* bases. You don't hit those, so I can see why the placement :D Light Dryad is also a good counter for Dark Tomoe. Max skilled her shield completely negates the damage. Dark Poison guy is also really strong. Seen Aftermath players use him regularly in Siege.
@arturpotalov60224 ай бұрын
Didn't you miss gladiatrix?
@Kyduk4 ай бұрын
TBH you should really look into the Light Dokkaebi Princess. She's basically a similar Molly, but a bit more useful and stronger (although you lose the potential to strip on S1)
@Eiszahn4 ай бұрын
Interesting list, with me playing an LD only account i cant fully agree with your list but i gues that just comes from me not beeing able to use the other 3 elements.
@exctn3 ай бұрын
@@Kyduk Not even close, glancing passive is really strong it can even screw up Nephthys' passive. I would only look twice when cleaving with my tiana/nephthys combo IF the defense have Molly/Nyx.
@TheDupeDavec4 ай бұрын
My guy doing gods work here and in general! Love your videos mate, keep em coming!
@LieyLiey4 ай бұрын
Light robo is basically an ld4 poseidon for arena offense, good dmg and counters nemesis, he lets u build alicia/pungbaek on full dmg for tiana/galleon
@LieyLiey4 ай бұрын
Also the self destruct animations looks really cool
@iiShqdow4 ай бұрын
Yeah and its irresistible which is amazing
@firentialombardi9064 ай бұрын
He's so fun to use too lol. Die, revive, Cooldown Reset, Die again.
@darkphase77994 ай бұрын
I love Dusky. He is fun to use randomly when people don't remember what he does and he also hits pretty hard.
@DarkMewtwo943 ай бұрын
this tier list was SO helpful and needed with the 10 year anniversary scrolls! thank you sir and very well done and great job! keep up the amazing work seii!!
@dahhl7774 ай бұрын
I think felleria is super underrated. Free win vs debuff heavy siege def. And she's great for early game r5 she can solo cleanse one team
@GFRetroSenpaix4 ай бұрын
U get it
@tanpham74114 ай бұрын
I use her in RTA as well against heavy cc units like Rica or Fire Druid.
@sammclaughlin67484 ай бұрын
It's actually wild how useful she is, and how many people just ignore her. She's been underrated for *years*, and without any of the nonsensical buffs/nerfs the rest of the ld4 roster has gotten
@mehirrahmansumon68702 ай бұрын
Which one is felleria?
@mehirrahmansumon68702 ай бұрын
@sammclaughlihelp bron6748
@durant80064 ай бұрын
They keep nerfing ld4 and buffing ld5 to the point it's not that excited to pull for ld4 unless it's dark string master
@potatomatop93263 ай бұрын
martina and deborah are even better than other ld5s bro
@skipaxsmiley2223 ай бұрын
Is she good?just got her recently
@durant80063 ай бұрын
@@skipaxsmiley222 she is now easily the best ld4 right now
@skipaxsmiley2223 ай бұрын
@@durant8006 damm lucky me
@durant80063 ай бұрын
@@potatomatop9326 Deborah only good for ppl who have alot of crystal to farm dungeon and Martina can be replaced with other units
@victordominguez92974 ай бұрын
Light blacksmith is actually great, if you have her you should try some Odin or Federica teams, I like to use Laima and her together, nice tier and thanks for the vid!
@eddy7964 ай бұрын
There is also a weird chamie build of high Speed/Hp and stacking additional damage artifacts to use its stacks. A fun build but definitely outclassed
@v3rsatile_V34 ай бұрын
after looking at the light dokkaebi princess I think she might have some uses her passive heals everyone for 30% on her turn than another 30% if they have a beneficial effect, if I had her I could say if she is actually good but I think she is usable
@chingling1354 ай бұрын
She’s cracked
@nivikoseven4 ай бұрын
Great point of reference for all the ones I've summoned so far!
@creeeamy71332 ай бұрын
Eva is a really funny unit and I really want to use her in 4* Special league when I can. Along side Konamia and any kind of defense breaker she's done well for me in guild content, but I haven't found anything setup where I can use her in RTA even in the lower tiers.
@jonyongkkkl51193 ай бұрын
When 90% of the LD4 are more useful than 50% of the LD5, that speaks volume. Also people are not very familiar with LD4 skillset so that can bring an element of surprise to the opponent.
@tangostacker47454 ай бұрын
i thought this has an hoh tierlist for a second and got soooo happy when i saw icarus thought i missed the most insane hoh
@dergutename4 ай бұрын
if you dont wanna use aka in gbah u can use ereadas (white sylph thing) aka is better but if you want to be different
@RiftyLuca4 ай бұрын
quad hit into giants tho
@lennartstockl58262 ай бұрын
On my new account I used Halphas to get through the 70s stages in toa hard. (Dark yeti and Jultan stages.) It was sefinetely a new low in my life.
@Herrinm.4 ай бұрын
what's some Chris offences and what do you use them into
@charalacuchara97653 ай бұрын
Glad to see Cris and Bethony cuz I spam the hell out of those 2. Easily my fav units in the game
@codythatcher7353 ай бұрын
I love all of my LD4's being in either Not commonly used, but probably bad, or BAD/Meme 😭
@darrelld85784 ай бұрын
Frigate is very underrated. He’s the single biggest attack bar booster in the game. Good for speed arena teams
@dramatique56244 ай бұрын
there’s a 3* that does the same tho
@marielcarey42884 ай бұрын
And the 3 star is faster@@dramatique5624
@pierrelapierre71084 ай бұрын
@@dramatique5624But Purian base spd is trash . Frigate easier to rune since he has higher base spd.
@mateusbp24 ай бұрын
I have Leah but I don't have any setup for her, only Galleon, I don't have Tiana or Adriana, and for me, she doesn't do more damage than Lushen because I can't make her very fast.
@MohaASeck4 ай бұрын
You don't need her to have more than +120 and you can replace Adrianna by eshir or fire blade dancer or the premium Craig. So chiwu/Gemini - Fire blade - Galleon and Leah
@jackjunior50004 ай бұрын
YOOO this dude doesnt missss lmao props to ur Vid bruh
@Queendom-jd9ln3 ай бұрын
I got Leah & Icares but no nat 5 this many scroll event. I mean there are 200+ more scrolls available but after 250 scrolls I havent got nat 5. Leah & Icares are the only great ld i got. Time to delete the account & make new.
@hirstygaming47522 ай бұрын
Thoughts on this tier list on an LD only account?
@Steven-jj4oo4 ай бұрын
I have lots of ld archers but never used lol good to see this coz i keep using my 3 martinas every siege
@the.reel.mccoy.3 ай бұрын
The only one that I slightly disagree is Sige, He actually has a lot of turn control on Vio
@Lp0tr334 ай бұрын
I got Lucia the light cyborg. Haven't tried her yet, not sure if she should be a super tank, or some hybrid like the dragon knights.
@YanlucasxD4 ай бұрын
Hard disagree on Tosi, I used to use him in AO before I pulled Leah He's basically Leah with ~30% less dmg, but still enough damage to cleave those Karnal defenses
@Seiishizo4 ай бұрын
I think many units can do more dmg than him, i wouldn't use tosi for it if i didn't have leah.
@lukildsz4 ай бұрын
Gg man, tnx, link for the list?
@Seiishizo4 ай бұрын
edited it in the description
@NicoLuna954 ай бұрын
Wait doesn't Lucas get 30 Crit rate by default from passive? Even if shield is down I mean
@Seiishizo4 ай бұрын
Apparently he doesn't need it no.
@rohan55644 ай бұрын
Yes, he gets free 30% CR and damage boost in proportion to the shield thickness (not only his own shield but any shield applied to him)
@Francorocco4 ай бұрын
how do you build the light cookie for subjugation? with hp or just ignore the hp scaling and focus on atk? i got one but have no clue how to rune for that content
@Seiishizo4 ай бұрын
mainly just dmg. 100 cr some speed. bit tanky. use some leftover fatal blades that you probably have from farming giants. all of my cookies for subjugation are fatal something. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7ZmjJaltdaslaM.html
@Francorocco4 ай бұрын
@@Seiishizo but like, his skills have an ho scaling, should i ignore this and just put atk anyway?
@MegaKenny94 ай бұрын
@@Francoroccohe doesn’t have any hp scaling. It’s only if his hp drops under 50% that his s2 shuts off. So atk is the way to go
@Francorocco4 ай бұрын
@@MegaKenny9 ty
@Russianstundard4 ай бұрын
thanks for making this!
@eyelesstriangle4 ай бұрын
(Prepare yourself, it's a whole novella below) I have many non-hoh ld 4's, so I could say a thing or *two* about them. Chris. Have two, the last time I used them was around 2 years ago, didn't think she is that good. Maybe I should google some offs with her. Molly. Two as well. I use one from time to time, but the second one is still not skilled up as she is almost never used. I think they should return her 15% of glancing to herself. Martina. Yes, two. Again. Full dmg build with as much spd as possible. Rarely do I use the second mst, nonetheless dmg build is the only one that is actually good for an offence. Tanky mst are usually demolished by procs. Grego. Choose you number. Was it 2? You are right! Six-starred the second one to get some energy thanks to the endless number of 1-3* scrolls. Did use him as a dark tank, but he isn't very good for it since he receives only 50% of healing. And now with 5 hoh dark knights, I doubt I will use him any time soon. Isllen. There are 4 units above, which is twice as more as my number of Isllens. I like using him, but too bad there aren't many defs that he is good against. Prefer on a spd build (desp will 20k hp 170 spd), but it seems like most people just use very tanky and slow build, so maybe I'll try it the next time. Icares. You already know the number, don't you? I just give her my karnal's runes when I use her (vio destroy, 41k hp, 106 spd). Of course she gets less hp, but it still works very good. If only she was hp or even support type... still, very good sniper, though I don't use the second one often. Dark ezio. The collab one looks more handsome than the sw one, no one can convince me otherwise. And, of course, I have both of them, i.e 2 in total of them lying around in my storage. Uselessly. -Wow, It's already very long.- Double shenanigans are over as I have no more double 4*. Sadge. [Sad Orion Emoji Here] I still have Leah, Dark robo, Betta and Vritra though, and I would most certainly build more If I had more, especially Leah. Leah does such an immense amount of dmg, that nowadays I use only two cleave teams just with her (typical Chiwu, Galleon, Eshir and Adriana, Tiana, Luer), which made my other teams (including those with Isis) pretty useless. Moreover, even when galleon or luer mess up (often...) and don't land a def break or two, I still end up winning in many cases thanks to her dmg. And with Gimini becoming f2p once again and doing a lot of work by himself (unlike a certain ld nat 5 in my possession), I can try to build Gemini Adriana Leah Isis team. To be honest, I'm scared to even think about speed tuning 4 units with spd buff only, when one of them has 96 base and the other one has 120... But it might end up being a good team, so it's worth to try. -Now it's even longer and there is one thing more I want to say...- I disagree with light yennefer being above Madeleine (light Deborah). I have both and Madeleine unironically pairs very well with Odin. So at least she got one niche she is good in. Light yen on the other hand... She does nothing. Her passive is pretty mediocre, since there aren't many units or even defs that have enough of stripps and buffs for her to be used, and what even worse, in order to work she needs a unit that provides buffs next to her! But what does she do on herself? The only real thing she does is putting oblivion with her s2... No dmg, no heal/cleanse, no buffs, no setup, no control. She's got 10.380 hp, 615 def and 103 base spd, so she's not even fast or tanky! Now, lets look at Delphoi. Delphoi has oblivion in her s2 as well (with decreasing cooldown time), but she also provides cleanse, healing and immunity, and her base stats are 10.875 hp, 703 def and 96 spd... Delphoi does 4 more things, while being completely f2p and, moreover, having fusionable skill ups! There is no place for light yennefer, not with this kit at least. I think the best buff for light yen would be switching her s2 with dark yen (whose kit made of shield and CC doesn't make a lot of sense, especially for an ld5). With shield on s2, she will be somewhat useable. All of the above is my opinion, of course. Wow! It's over... Goodness, I'm such a blabbermouth. Thanks to all who read it 'till the end, I appreciate it.
@moin-1234 ай бұрын
18:35 I see MST still pretty often in the Backline of g3 Sieges.
@ChoperJoJo3 ай бұрын
and to think years ago i wished for a dark samurai and got it in 2020 i think. Gave him all my devilmons lmao... the regrets now
@Zeledon32 ай бұрын
Dang, I just finished building my dragunov, but at least I know to pull my dark string out from storage😅
@pimenta25412 ай бұрын
don't care to him, build what you think is good, this is the fun of the game
@jan-g52694 ай бұрын
thank you so much for the video :3
@martinlutherkingsize4 ай бұрын
light robot is quite good in specifique teams
@user-ed8iw9cx3k4 ай бұрын
Any suggestion of chris in siege offence?? Chilling Chris @??
@justinwilder85714 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm not really understanding how to make Chris work at all
@pierrelapierre71084 ай бұрын
Probably use a gemini ?
@treeck37244 ай бұрын
It'd likely be chilling Chris miyang, same idea as miyang adriana sonia, fast base spd spd buffer and big nuke in Chris/sonia with miyang for spd lead and extra dmg/2nd 1 shot on squishy stuff
@justinwilder85714 ай бұрын
@@treeck3724 Thank you I will test this out EDIT: Tested it, she is not a big nuke at all. I looked through all the defenses of my guild and saw 0 places where I would be able to pick her. And you would never build her over something like a Khali or Shren. I think Seii made a mistake.
@gabrielblox_br13953 ай бұрын
Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...
@lenlilam81994 ай бұрын
Trasar is pretty insane in g2 siege and below
@Mystery-2nite3 ай бұрын
sad light neostone agent isnt all that good, it looked strong to me
@MohaASeck4 ай бұрын
Waiting for Seii to make Chris offenses because yeah her placing is kinda sus
@Seiishizo4 ай бұрын
check the arena hits of guts the berserk. he uses her quite some.
@galleonspeedrunner86554 ай бұрын
26:35...doesnt the new fire cyborg become the most consistent def break unit in the game rn after nepthys?? if fire cyborg has high enough atk she will always land aoe def break without res check
@trugam3r4024 ай бұрын
Yep. He wasn’t aware of that tho, vid was before new monster
@lolc41084 ай бұрын
Yeah..l wait my first mirinae,kinki,dova,dark archer,leah and martina 😢
@moacyrnogueiraluz1196Ай бұрын
Which string master for Toa hell? Light or wind or use both? Kinda confused
@SeiishizoАй бұрын
Light, then wind, then fire in that order.
@diaolener87034 ай бұрын
nice one :D
@dracyra4 ай бұрын
is there will be ld5 tier list?
@chibbster16914 ай бұрын
why do u only need 53 acc on bomber?
@suleymanylmaz15Ай бұрын
thanks
@hmmmmmyes80624 ай бұрын
no dark sniper? i just got him but seems kinda me
@farhanqqq53584 ай бұрын
Where we can use deborah ?
@MohaASeck4 ай бұрын
Damn the disrespect on Korona is insane even Lanett (actual trash unit) is higher
@carlhaight38272 ай бұрын
I agree, actually! I use him to help prevent people cutting my terribly speed tuned units. And if Arena units don't have buffs? great, toss out the crit/atk buffs.
@loganadam41084 ай бұрын
Rating units on how useful they are in summoners war but only if they should be built for siege! Thanks
@ronlanders73544 ай бұрын
I agree korana is pretty bad in rl and in game.😂
@wagon38554 ай бұрын
specifical is not a word but great video otherwise
I came here because I got Aurelia(light Gladiatrix) & u didn't even include her💀💀🤦♀️🤦♂️
@Dnice_3 ай бұрын
I pulled her as well and omg she never lands anything! Granted she's not skilled up but still.
@carlhaight38272 ай бұрын
Is included. mentioned in passing. Meme level. Aure/Kass.
@ramirosantana26483 ай бұрын
Cant believe the place of the samurais...even the light pirate among them???!!!...nop. Inacceptable...
@nathanchen28244 ай бұрын
Man this is really weird to see because I have both light and dark magic archer but was told dark is ok but requires too much setup and that light was just decent. I also have 2 dovas and 1 dark string master that are both unbuilt (because my swift runes are garbage) but I never knew they were considered so strong
@ThepokedekАй бұрын
I made a comment back in 15/16 when i got illiana (she was my first l&d 4 star that was outside of a HOH) that she wasn't anything special and Chloe was kinda better in the buffs she provided or the very least more useful than a 4* light monster in Illiana. That comment to this day is the top voted comment in her discussion and you guessed it, almost 9 years later she hasn't been buffed.
@diluc16114 ай бұрын
Tbh I see more mollys than bettas and I’m more scared of Molly 😂
@user-uv2mb7pc9j3 ай бұрын
great video
@laxusanime25043 ай бұрын
Is this video glitched
@ShiekSw4 ай бұрын
Skogul trasar in siege is pretty strong
@durant80064 ай бұрын
Arnold beat this easy
@ShiekSw4 ай бұрын
@@durant8006 as a offense haha
@durant80064 ай бұрын
@@ShiekSw oh my bad
@donwebster92924 ай бұрын
Doesnt do enough damage and just makes me mad. Lol.
@mehirrahmansumon68702 ай бұрын
Someone pls comment the heroes mentioned in the vid lol
@Ant-Honey5683 ай бұрын
Magnus Carlsen for summoners war
@landersaiz444 ай бұрын
Where is isillen? Dark elf
@Seiishizo4 ай бұрын
good point that one is missing i'll write it in the comments
@philippemuniz42033 ай бұрын
Dark Taoist
@Seiishizo3 ай бұрын
nat 3
@shadowlegends8433Ай бұрын
Eva?
@SeiishizoАй бұрын
Not on it? if not i do say lower tier
@mdnght00954 ай бұрын
Are u dutch ?
@surr3ald3sign6 күн бұрын
More or less, if you get an ld 4 its boring as shit and you wish it was a basic element 😐 thats fucking awful... whats worse is that the ld 5s follow this EXACT same fucking trend of so very few of them actually being good and the rest are niche at best
@Caioboladim_4 ай бұрын
forgot about isillen
@Seiishizo4 ай бұрын
added him in comments, thanks :)
@Caioboladim_4 ай бұрын
@@Seiishizo love your content
@summonersummoner9536Ай бұрын
Green should be the best units and red the worse
@SeiishizoАй бұрын
Guess you have never seen a tier list from tier list maker :P i just copied their "standard"
@summonersummoner9536Ай бұрын
@@Seiishizo yeah I know they all do the same, green should be great and red bad... :S
@ShiekSw4 ай бұрын
Comment
@gabrielblox_br13953 ай бұрын
Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...
@gabrielblox_br13953 ай бұрын
Com2us fkin nerfed my icasha even tough she wasent strong...