Part 2 [using Tesla vision] now out! Self-Parking Tesla Vision v Hyundai Ioniq 5 with remote parking v BMW i3 - still a Tesla Fail? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9Ryob1orNe0mYE.html

As a American car, Model S parked exactly like Americans. Stay true to its heritage for sure.

From my perspective, it looks like audi/bmw/ford wrote an actual parking algorithm, whereas Tesla seems to have done it entirely with machine learning. The constant indecision and having to correct mistakes is the hallmark of an unoptimized machine learning algorithm.

Amazing that Tesla's self parking automation is so advanced it emulates the parking skills of their target drivers

I love how Mercedes does this (at least in my wife's 2015 GLA, which is the only self-parking experience I have): no special buttons of any kind: you just stop past a parking spot and put your blinker on to indicate you want to go into the spot, and the car will automatically ask you if you want help with parking. If you then hit the OK button, you just take your hands off the wheel and with your accelerator and brake you control the speed at which it parks. And it parks absolutely perfectly every time. It's really, really cool :-)

I like how the BMW does not beep if it is self parking, no need for all that beeping if the car is doing the job itself

It's so embarrassing that Tesla cannot do it. I really like how Audi managed it.

This is exactly how my Tesla also parks. After 2 years, I haven’t managed to get it to park once properly on its own.

I have owned a new Qashqai Tekna+ for a few months. It does not have self parking, but it does have excellent 360° camera vision and auto tilting door mirrors when reversing. This makes parking a breeze. It also gives the driver something to do LOL. 😊

accurate representation of how Tesla drivers parallel park here in Canada. I guess they must be using self parking

Love that the Tesla parks like someone who is doing parallel parking the first time.

The Škoda Superb I had a few years ago had this. Absolutely brilliant, it got a pretty big car into places I would never have attempted manually.

Not sure since when this self-parking feature started to be widespread, but my VW 2011 performed it nearly as well as the Audi, Ford and BMW in the video :)

After watching Tesla, I don’t feel so bad about my parking skill😏

I'vw worked in a vehicle testing department at BMW. My college was responsible for all the driving assistant features of the i4. You can't imagine how many times he had to test the parking assistant to make sure everything worked the way it's supposed to. So no wonder it does a good job.

Wife has 2014 Escape, I have 2017 Edge, they both work great. You have to control the shift lever and brake, but they park close to the curb. Wife's Escape gets really close to front vehicle when backing in which makes us nervous, but goes into the spot like it should.

Great video. Loved it. :D One thing did trip me up a bit. I am not an car person and it would have been much easier to follow what belonged with what if the order of parking was the same.

You should test the BMW backup assistance. It's quite good. The car remembers how you drove into a spot and automatically steer the car back out. It's great for maneuvering out of tricky driveways or parking situations..

Great video! Very surprised at how poorly the newer Tesla cars did. I work in the AI industry and have some familiarity with the technology at play here - so just to explain what's going on: Ford, BMW and Volkswagen Group (inc. Audi) all use ADAS systems from Mobileye (an Israeli company, now owned by Intel), which is why the parking behaviour of those cars is almost identical. Tesla also used Mobileye's tech until 2017 when they decided to switch to their own systems. It's a huge surprise to me though that the Mobileye system in the 2016 Tesla is so much better than Tesla's own FSD. I suspect the reason is that parking assist is not a big focus for the Tesla Autopilot Engineering team as they are more focused on the FSD capabilities. Conversely Mobileye have taken a more slow and steady approach with their autonomous vehicle tech and have likely focused much more on the basics like self-parking and really perfected that.

I had this on a BMW 330e, it worked great, and for setting off it got you out of roadside parking too.

Great video - managed to convince the wife to get the i4 because of this video - thank you brother, keep up the great work! /subbed

I had a Ford Mondeo 7 years ago and the self park was brilliant. It got into gaps I never could. My Tesla is rubbish. I thought it was going to be much better. Very disappointed.

• I liked the Audi system the best: you had to keep a button pressed while it's parking, kind of giving you some control or involvement. It also parked perfectly parallel. The beeps are a bit annoying. • The BMW system was also spot on, parked beautifully parallel. While the press a button, let go and let the car do the rest it actually nice, I think with auto-parking being a new thing we might not be ready to give the car the complete control yet. That's why I think Audi's and Ford's system is good to by leaving some immediate control on the driver (well, I assume that the car would stop if the driver would release the button). • Ford did a proper job with both parking scenarios, but didn't park as nicely parallel as Audi and BMW did. It tended to oversteer a bit. • Tesla was a disappointment and it's probably overrated. How about 45º angle parking? Can these cars manage that?

Thank you for this good test. A least we know who have no problem and who might have problems. I am especially happy of the performance of the BMW i 50 and the AUDI e-tron GT .

Thanks for a well done and fun video

It's almost confounding how bad Tesla's self parking is. It's comically bad even when it does successfully park. A park job that can manually be done in a 5 seconds takes 20 anxiety inducing seconds when auto parked. And I so rarely see the prompt for auto park when going to park I forget that it's even a feature on the car.

Having leased a model S and now an e-tron GT both have worked for me the difference being that with the model s it always had to go back and forth a dozen times to get it right meanwhile the etron always gets it in 1-2 goes. Don't know much about how they program the stuff but in the tesla it feels like the car is trying to adapt in the moment and relies solely on machine learning while the e-tron feels like its pre-calculated and gets it done in one swoop. Overall my confidence is 10x higher in the e-tron. The tesla always felt like it was hesitating in all of its actions.

In 1995, when I was a graduate student for Control Systems, this was a part of my special project and thesis work. I am happy to see it in the market. Everything is the same except the proximity sensors and touch screen.

The early park assist was really funny. On some cars it only did the steering. You had todo the accelerator and brake.

On the Tesla, you probably have to go into the settings to turn off "Alloy Wheel Rim Scuff Protection", then disable "Old Lady Park Simulation Mode" and finally use the tablet interface to lookup the timetable of the nearest bus to take you to the kerb. Can't wait until my Model Y arrives, looks like hours of fun!

That parallel self park is amazing on the BMW. Idk what I would do without it, Miami is full of parallel parking spots.

I am terrible at parallel parking so self parallel park was a big selling point for me when I got my Model 3. Unfortunately, the system is exactly as is shown here. Most of the time it won't even sense the tighter parking spots and when it does, it does an absolutlely terrible job at parking. Plus it does it SO SLOWLY that you will hold up traffic for sure. Even in simple parking situations it will do the classic Tesla steering wheel jitter as it freaks out and decides what to do. I just never use auto park now. Basically any auto drive feature on my car is useless except the standard auto pilot when driving down a freeway. Don't even ask about 'Smart Summon'. Haha.

Thanks for comparing these cars.

I have an Audi with this feature and it’s exceptional. I never park it myself, no point, the car always gets extremely tight to the curb without ever touching it, and perfectly straight.

I've never used or owned a car with this function but still enjoyed this. Thank you.

I did not laugh so much from a long time. Thank you :)

I have to admit to being a Tesla Fan boy, but that was hilarious. Nice one Richard 👍🏼

Did not expect the Tesla to do so poorly. A Mercedes I got to drive nearly 7 years ago got auto park flawlessly and that was an ICE vehicle. Not even a super high end one, it was like 45k at the time.

I got a VW Golf Plus from 2016, it comes with "self parking" means it steers for you and you have to manage gas and breakes. But It is still impressive that this technology was aviable in 2016 and was perfected/improoved since then.

Would love to see parallel parking tests when one of the stationary cars is parked further away from the curb. Wondering if it is using the curb as the guide or tha parked vehicle?

Got a 64 plate X4 that has semi self-park, does a pretty good job. It does the steering and acceleration I control the breaking. Impressed with the old tech. BMW are really good at self parking.

It never gets old watching Tesla fail at things normal manufacturers figured out years ago.

I first used self parking in a 2007 Prius. It worked really well. Used it a few times then never used it. Parking in tight spaces is part of living in London.

Self parking has been around and worked well for over a decade on most cars. Tesla got some catching up to do

I own a BMW i4 eDrive 40 with all the optional extras on it. I must admit I have never used the self parking facility because I like to park the car myself but I am so glad that I have learnt from this video that it actually works.

I think that you should have tried the Mercedes-Benz self-park or park assist option. It is one of the best out there right now and does extremely well to keep your vehicle parked as close to the pavement/car as safely as possible.

17:42 you can even hear the seagulls laughing in the background😂

I haven't looked at new cars for damn near 13 years. Crazy how far they've come.👀

does anyone realize how freaking amazing this is? I work with these cars daily and yet it's absolutly mind blowing how the cameras can sense small things like the curb for example and translate it into a digital code also you gotta love how they are trying it in-between all these new expensive cars, especially in the garage

The german brands did it exceptionally. The tesla and ford seem to push the front side closer to the curb

I own a Genesis GV70, and the self-parking is great. It was my first time owning a self-parking car and it was scary the first time.

I like your attitude. You are joyful and not hyping up TESLA FAILS, or making bold claims..

i tried parallel parking in my Tesla Model 3 once. After it slammed the wheel into the sidewalk i decided that i will never use it again. Yes the cars can get OTA updates, but what good does it do if your patched car does worse than the 10 year old original?

It would have been interesting to see the Mercedes’ EQS with all wheel steering attempt that test too 😆 😂

Also there are settings in autopark where you have to change thr setting. The settings are usually high like front and back end gap at certain inches.

Fantastic video!! perfect. thanks. (You could make some timestamps in it to skip tot the specific sections in your video)

I've seen some tesla park fails before but I didn't expect they actually went backwards from the old system with the fsd trying to park and failing.

Love the self park feature on my BMW! At first I thought it was redundant but once I tried it, got the hang of it and realized the only times I’ve wrecked my parking manoeuvres was when other drivers behind me would get impatient, I’ve started using it every time when parking on crowded streets. That AND the automatic backup assistance are amazing.

My dad had a 2014 passat with self parking and it was really good, got us into some really tight spots

For the tesla in the multistory carpark you have to swing slightly into and then out of the gap. (As if you are starting the actual parking in that gap). It should recognize you are trying to park and then take over. I did that with my 2020 MX and it worked every time.

I had a 2015 Ford Fusion with a parking assist and at that point I had to work the gas in the brake but it did the steering on its own and I got to say 9 out of 10 times it was a perfect parking job. Although where I live there was not often a chance to parallel park

Thanks for another great video, especially seeing the fun you had! I’ve read the first 50 or so comments, and agree 95% with 95% of these comments. As Elon would famously say… “room for improvement”.

Excellent

that etron looks so good inside and out

The parallel parking results really surprised me! Did not expect that at all, because in my mind the favourite was supposed to dominate the parking performance. The second parking was even worse and I couldn't believe it.

Audi really impressed me. I wasn't excited about thinking of owning an electric car, but this particular one is stuck in my head now. Somehow I even accept and like not hearing the engine / exhaust, while in other electric cars I would've missed that. That exterior, interior, self-parking and everything... it's beautiful.

Sometimes, in extremely tight spaces and in narrow streets, the best strategy in order to park quickly is to actually touch the curb the first time in reverse, and then correct with a full turn of the wheel and a slight move frontwards. Then another full turn on the opposite side and backwards and voila!. It doesn't end successfully every time, but it gives you better chances.

I’ve got a 2022 m240i. Only used the parking assist 3 times. All in car parks. First two times worked perfectly. The third time it parked fine but not between the parking space lines. Not sure how much it was affected by the way the other cars either side were parked

What an interesting vlog and omg Tesla ! That really surprised me. Watching all those clips my heart was in my mouth god knows how your nerves were doing it lol. Best wishes.

Great video! I am interested to know more about the after market cluster gauge on the Model 3. Can you post a video of its installation if you did it yourself? Does it void the warranty?

I love how his nervousness with the most reliable cars quickly resolves to boredom and bemusement with the least reliable auto-park system.

Brilliant video and yes the Tesla is rubbish but it’s changed on mine since 2019 when it was really good. It definitely needs white lines for reverse parking or it won’t see the space and probably needs a line on the road for a parallel park as I believe it’s changed to cameras for parking and not ultrasonic sensors

Since you're located in Europe, can you please also compare lane keeping capabilities? Autopilot vs the others? My experience is that it's similar results in that area, Tesla is supposed to be the best but falls short with lots of phantom breaking and generally being more nervous and jumpy - but it would be cool to see what your experiences are

it's absolutely baffling how people think some US tech company with a master swindler as a CEO can do a better job in the automotive industry than 100+ year old car companies.

my mate's 2018 Opel Astra parks just as well as any of these -- of course with some pedal input... but just as good

I have been using Tesla’s autopark in my model 3 regularly for both perpendicular and parallel parking over the last 3 years. It used to behave much as the others here do (steady, mechanistic) but became more “flaky” when they updated it to autopark between marked bay lines whether there is a vehicular gap or not. I suspect, as others have speculated,that, ironically, it’s currently more unreliable because it’s more sophisticated (baby steps along a learning curve). Mine seems to have improved over the course of regular use anyway, and I don’t ever recall it being as crap as what’s on display in this video.

My model Y (advanced autopilot) is crap at parallel parking, takes ages shuffling back and forth, holding up traffic while it does so, and then often gives up. Its not so bad at 90 degree parking in multi-storey but is quite slow and hesitant. I hope it will be improved with an OTA update in due course.

My 2020 Ford Escape SE has that function in it. I don’t used it at all. Last summer that I did parallel parked it between my 2 neighbors but, I did pulled into the spot w/o hitting them. I pulled in with the front end. I did it so perfectly between their cars. I even told my neighbor above me that I was in front of her car. I did say anything towards my other neighbor because that I don’t liked him because he gave me a snobbish looked on his face when I seen him. He moved away. I’m very sweet and friendly person. I will say hi or hello or a friendly wave. His son does say hi or even talked to me. I do talked to my neighbors in a friendly matter.

Wonderfull !

I have a new X3 and I have tried the auto parking on both bays and parallel and it has worked flawlessly so far, but a bit scary ! Trouble with auto parking is in very busy areas you are relying on the peo-ple behind you to be patient ! My mates AMG Merc however drove up a kerb with ultra low profile tyres and did some slight damage to the rim...

My frustration with self-parking has been going almost a whole car length beyond the space before it decides you can park in it. Meanwhile any cars behind you are on your tail getting angry and someone else has just driven forward into the space, mounting the curb and risking harm to anyone walking on the path in the process. I stopped using it as it's often quicker to park yourself.

I consider myself a pretty good parallel parker, but my new ID. Buzz automatic parking is just insanely good so far.

Damn that Silver Tesla is amazing. I would love to have one

It is a feature I have on both my VW & Audi, both very capable and work well, however like many people I never use it, not sure why! - I was surprised that the Tesla did not perform so well in your test.

I find your videos to be VERY INFORMATIVE and that means a lot to me. You supply GREAT CONTENT and it helps me (in my opinion) from a consumer standpoint to make the best informed decision on a current or future purchase. I live in the US and your videos are just refreshing to say the least. You point out things that most dealers wouldn't even tell you, do things to prep the cars before sale that most US dealers wouldn't and provide services that help the customer have a better customer experience overall. NOW THAT'S CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!!! The Audi e-Tron self parked well, but was just so noisy and I must admit it did get the tightest space to the curb (IMPRESSIVE). The BMW i4 M50 did it (IMO) twice perfectly and I would say Exactly in the same spot with same curb gap (REALLY IMPRESSED BY THAT)!!!! It actually caught me off guard. The Ford Mach-E did it perfectly as well, but I did notice that the front end curb space was closer than the rear. NOW, The Tesla Model S (#1 Black) was downright horrible...it was almost like it was trying to figure out what to do "in the process" of actually parking and at one point...I was like ("is it learning as it parks??"). I think the amount of parking space makes a difference and the Year Model of the Tesla may play a factor in how much better it self parks (IMO). The "pedestrian" was somewhat annoying, but I can understand why it stops because the car is just being cautious. IF I BUY a Tesla Model S, it will DEFINITELY be an AP1 - Pre 2017 version because the self parking software was HELLA BETTER!!!! WOW, shocked the Tesla's didn't recognize the parking space inside the building whether it was the Model 3 or Model S. That Totally Disappointed ME!!!! Parallel Park: BMW, Audi, Ford, Tesla (AP1) Inside Bldg - Back In - Park: Ford, Audi, BMW, XXTESLA(N/A)XX

The Ford and BMW systems both use Mobileye, they are the same systems but slightly tweaked. Tesla AP1, the one that actually parks well, uses an old version of Mobileye too. Later Tesla versions use Tesla's own hardware and software, which is why its actually worse. The reason Elon moved away from Mobileye was because he wanted to market the cars as self driving, and Mobileye refused to do that due to safety. When AP2 came out, to nobodies surprise a bunch of Tesla's crashed and killed the drivers.

That model S autopark was hilarious. xD I mean I have model 3 FSD and it does the parking just fine. Tested it many times on parallels, normal spots, garage autopark etc. All works fine. I just stated to wonder if theres differencies in U.S. and european parking space which contradicts with code. I've noticed you need to leave a bit of space to the side for tesla to detect parking space.

Manufacturers should turn off the beeping when you use self parking. It does nothing than makes the user nervous lol

Nice. I've got the self-park on my new S5, I just never had the confidence to use it lol, didn't really get the need to street park much yet anyway but now I'm definitely looking forward to testing it out.

My CC has it and it works

Looks like the genius CEO might have been involved in the later versions of the autopilot :)

Totally agree, Tesla’s auto self parking is useless - i find it rarely even suggests it these days, and when it does usually makes a complete pigs ear out of the effort.

The I4 in black at 20:48 just looks so awesome

I could imagine that the parking system from BMW and Audi (maybe even the Mustang) come from VDO. That is the biggest german producer of car instruments and navigation systems (2 of my ex-colleagues went there). Would fit perfectly into their portfolio. And when you have a specialized company concentrating on such tasks, over MANY car manufacturers, you combine all these experiences and are way faster way more efficient. And you program more efficient: You design a general algorithm for each situation that is built that it is configurable over a parameter set. With that you can tell the manufacturer quickly "ey, to be able to do this and that, we need a little more of this and that", e.g 5 degrees more steering angle, or sensors placed where to be able to get 5 cm nearer.

This is exactly what i expected. :)

Another great video but the take away for me was how impractical alloy wheels are when they cause this much worry and heart ache. Or perhaps it is the kerbs at fault. Councils need to fit foam rubber kerbs to protect these delicate wheels!!!!!

Very informative and entertaining, especially the messed up part from Tesla. It's like people with bad eyesight trying really hard to adjust their parking and failed miserably everytime! Had a good laugh from that 😂. Also, not sure why the lack of constant beeping in the i4 made me anxious... I don't really trust self-parking tech yet, probably 😅. I saw some Taycans in your garage and wondering why you didn't include it in this test, but I assume it utilises the same system as the Audi e-tron, right? 5:15 and 6:23 and I thought my Google Assistant triggered... 🤭

I liked the Hyundai perpendicular parking, stuffing the car in/out of tight parking slots. Stand outside the car and fit it into a space too narrow to open the doors.

Interesting vid. Very impressed with the Audi and Bimmer (Let's not talk about the "mustang"). Tesla really dropped the ball. Maybe it needs a British setting/mode.

Thanks for the video Richard, I’m not surprised at all having previously owned self parking BMWs, Volvos and Audis - and now own a Tesla MY. Quite frankly I am extremely disappointed in the self parking capabilities of the Tesla. Enhanced auto pilot also induces vomiting in the stop start traffic in a way that the other cars did not. Still happy with the Tesla as an overall package, just really hope they improve these things sooner rather than later.