Selling My FAVORITE Lens?! (28-70 vs 85mm)
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Күн бұрынToday we're comparing my two favorite lenses: the Canon RF 28-70 f/2.0 and Canon RF 85mm 1.2L!
We're going to find out if you REALLY need to bring both of these on a wedding day OR if you can get away with ONLY the 28-70!
NOTE: All test shots were shot at f/2.0 on both lenses!
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
00:50 Please Subscribe!
01:16 Head-to-head Experiment Explained!
02:06 My Current Lens Lineup for Weddings
04:00 85mm Clarification
04:39 Shooting the Test Shots
06:06 Evaluating the Test Shots
08:50 What We Learned
11:30 Updated RF Lens Recommendations
13:32 Final Conclusion & Wrap Up
@AllgoodthingsTv 2 жыл бұрын
I recently shot with the RF 28-70 *and* the RF 50mm f/1.2 and you can definitely tell the difference. Those RF primes are just in a league of their own, and that's saying a lot against the RF 28-70, which is a beast in its own right. I've shot with the RF 85mm f/1.2 as well but that focal length is a little too close for most of my situations. The 50mm is more ideal for me, but yeah, those lenses are like cheat codes for a photographer. In a time where pro photos are becoming increasingly indistinguishable from iPhone photos, those RF primes really make the case for pro cameras.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing!
@rupunzel6299 2 жыл бұрын
50mm -vs- 85mm decided the subject to background proportions relative to subject. This one of the reasons why a 50mm lens is considered a "normal" lens for 35mm or full frame digital as it delivers subject to background proportions similar to human vision. Longer than normal focal lengths like the 85mm tends to bring the background "into" the subject by creating the perception of being larger than would be perceived with normal human vision. Longer the focal length, stronger this effect.
@theclifbar 8 ай бұрын
It's worth noting that the depth of field at 70mm f/2 is actually shallower ("more bokeh", I guess) than the 50mm f/1.2 for the same subject distance.
@Edwin1947D 2 жыл бұрын
It was very easy to see the difference - but I actually liked the look of the backgrounds with the 28-70mm at 70mm - there was plenty of separation but with a little better sense of the background - I don't see that as a negative at all
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely personal preference! You could always increase your aperture on the 85mm if you want a less blurry background but still get the extra compression!
@Edwin1947D 2 жыл бұрын
@@KatelynJames very true - thank you for responding
@ThreeCeeProductions 2 жыл бұрын
For the staged shots 85 is the choice. However the ceremony is key for many. You will get more shots with the 28-70. You won’t have to move your feet as much. Most clients couldn’t tell the difference. The look of the 28-70 will far exceed what most photographers are using (24-70) IMHO. I used to carry a lot of lenses. Now two bodies w/28-70 and 135f2
@milanhugh Жыл бұрын
Washed out photos. Useless comparison.
@ahjax Жыл бұрын
@@milanhugh Washed out angry commenter who owns neither of these lenses and is salty & trolls online for fun in his free time :) lol
@goodgollygal 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing the comparison between the two. I think the background looks better with the 85 but I think your subject looks better with the 28-70. Both are great!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@aaronstang9860 2 жыл бұрын
Again, very informative for an amateur toying with bigger photographic dreams. While I shoot with a Nikon DSLR, it's reassuring to know that I can still get quality shots with my current gear while planning for what to purchase first if I do decide to go mirrorless. And, like so many of the comments below, most people (clients) will still be thrilled with the results. Thanks for continuing to put together such engaging and helpful material. It's obvious you love what you do!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Aaron!!
@berniestang2616 2 жыл бұрын
Love all your classes, love it all … plz keep it coming , never quit . I watch your classes EVERY DAY !! So upbeat !!!!!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@DerbyMods 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely like the compression for the 85 and how well the prime blows out the background. But I honestly think I liked the background of the 70 better.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!
@DerbyMods 2 жыл бұрын
@@KatelynJames thank you for the excellent comparison video
@Erollphotography 2 жыл бұрын
I really love your content. You make things very simple in a way that I can understand. I'm just your normal hobbyist photographer, but with your help I did purchase a R5 with the 85 1.2 and I am really enjoying this setup. Your channel is truly an inspiration. You Rock
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Earl, that’s our goal! Glad the videos have been helpful!
@jasonwrites9186 2 жыл бұрын
Here's my take on it. As a wedding photographer, of course I like the 85 vs the 70. But I think, as the video pointed out towards the end, clients who receive the 28-70's 70mm portrait will be thrilled. I only shoot primes, even for ceremonies, but I'll be the first to say that if a photographer uses a 28-70, and the client isn't happy with the photos, it really has little to do with the gear itself.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Great points! The 70mm shot still looks great, especially considering the versatility of the lens!
@joelindooo Жыл бұрын
On the video, were they shot on the 70mm? I took a 70mm shot on my 28-70 f2 and looks a lot better than on the 28mm. I'm thinking of getting the 85mm at well since it's on sale today. Thinking so hard about this.
@francisdrelling4060 Жыл бұрын
I really love your videos and the honest, straightforward, advice you give. Thanks, FD
@mademydaybyemily 2 жыл бұрын
This could not have been more helpful Katelyn, thank you!!! I currently have the EF 24-70, EF 100mm macro and EF 70-200, and can’t wait to upgrade to the R6 and R 85mm 1.2! Those smooth crisp backgrounds got me sold 😍 I’m actually having an identity crisis myself haha as I’ve always been a 70-200 girl, until now!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Haha all this technology giving everyone an identity crisis!
@Gadgets20 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the 70-200 can get even better results and separation if you shoot at 200mm wide open.
@deebea6364 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm recently I did a family shoot and started with the 28-70, but after I got a few wider shots switched to the 85 and it stayed on for the rest of the shoot! Definitely fun when you have the time and the space to use it! The RF 1.2s are also amazing at focusing regardless of distance - I feel like my EF would sometimes miss at distance so mainly used it for portrait style shots
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Love this!!
@TaylorMclawhorn035_ Жыл бұрын
It makes me so happy to hear “ I know which one is my baby” because I feel the exact same way about my 135! Wherever I get a chance to use it, it just brings light to my day. No 70-200 could ever replace it.
@gracethorsen7069 2 жыл бұрын
Great content, Katelyn! I love the idea of not wearing two camera bodies on a wedding day since the 28-70 can replace some of the primes I alternate at 2.0. I totally agree with the 85 too. She'll be a round for a while.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@WilliamJohnston 2 жыл бұрын
The way you described the 85 at the start- it’s like taking a special scene and deciding to give it the full shebang - the 85 just makes it even better!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, yes!
@terrybegemann2290 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 85mm EF lens it is beautiful and just tried it out with my new R6. I started watching your videos and your info is a game changer for me. I learned about all the settings and the drag and focus. Took shots of my cat in the window with the 85mm lens love love love.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@BrianHallmond Жыл бұрын
I've been thinking of buying the EF model.
@JaredHoyman 2 жыл бұрын
It's great to hear the perspective from a wedding photographer. I'm on the opposite spectrum as a architectural/real estate photographer so my line up is different for my R6 and EOS R. My must have and use every single day lens is the 15-35 RF, then the 24-70 RF. Your video has brought up questions though on my next RF. I was leaning towards the 70-200 F4 RF for tighter shots ( I don't need super shallow depth), but now I see the 85mm I wonder if I could put that to use. BTW...subscribed to your channel a while back. Keep up the good work!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Makes total sense! Thanks for subscribing!!
@ShellySomerset 2 жыл бұрын
I have only recently found you and I must say, I LOVE YOU! You speak in a language I actually understand. You have also convinced me to go for the EOS. Your images look GREAT!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Haha aww well thank you!!!
@lavondad5598 2 жыл бұрын
Very Helpful! These are the 2 I'm deciding between and this video definitely gave me clarity.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!!
@dorothyschwetz7790 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I’ve been debating an 85mm prime for my Nikon Z and now I’m prioritizing this as my next lens! Love your videos! Keep it up! :)
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
@shelbylea9066 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously so grateful for you and your cute videos!! I’ve learned so much and shared with so many friends! ❤️
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Shelby, you’re too sweet!!
@lauracohen6324 2 жыл бұрын
Love this. And love the way you explain things. Keep up the good work!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Laura!
@brookemurray 2 жыл бұрын
Such a fun video! I LOVE my 85mm too 😍🔥 Katelyn could you please do a video on tips and posing ideas for family sessions? Your photos always capture such beautiful genuine looking emotions. I’d love to improve in this area!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
That is not my speciality, but we have some ideas about this for the future!
@DCAMM720 Жыл бұрын
I'm a little late on getting into the R system and RF glass, but this was super helpful as I've been stuck for DAYS on whether or not to get a versatile zoom that's GREAT or the AMAZING 85. Tried both in a store and my brain tells me to get the 28-70 for versatility but my heart tells me the 85 because even in test shots in a random store it was incredible. Canon may have some weird quirks about them but WOW do they make good glass.
@neworleansportraitphotogra9015 Жыл бұрын
I have majority of the RF L line except the 28-70. I decided to pick up the the 24-105 as a temporary substitute until I'm ready to pick up the 28-70. I find the kit lens to be be great in a pinch at weddings with smaller venues where my 85 is harder to work with. In the past I would typically default with the 50m which I'm not crazy about but it gets the job done as well. I think my two favorites still are my 85 and 70-200
@FilmProductionSTL 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it with the 85. My 85 1.8 is awesome. I use the 28-70 F3.5 to F5.6 kit lens since I got tired of having my subjects out of focus. However, when I shoot a person or a couple, I always you my 85 and my Tamron 70-180mm f/2.8. The compression and the blurred background on the Tamron is amazing, a lot better than the 85. But when I am covering news and the like, I use my kit lens since I just want everything in focus. Thanks for posting this.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@stanleyhall2793 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as you helped aid my understanding of both lenses. Your delivery of the content is wonderful and very engaging for the viewer. New subscriber!!!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@eldanigalvan 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! after watching your videos, decided to take a leap of faith and Went from Nikon d810 (24-70, 70-200, 2.8 zoom lenses) to Canon r6 with rf's 35 1.8 macro and 85 1.2 and I could never go back again, I mean 85 it's just magical! I still I want the 28-70 for the versatility because it takes time getting used to primes after using zooms for so long , but it's totally worth it!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear your transition from Nikon has gone well! Thanks for watching!!
@youknowwho9247 2 жыл бұрын
Not a great comparison though. I'm shooting with the Nikon 105mm f/1.4 and it's just as fantastic as the 85mm f/1.2 - they both make much nicer images than the 70-200.
@ritchiewiii 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the same comparison with your 35 vs the 28-70! I'm willing to bet you'd start carrying your 35mm to weddings again. :)
@noogaimish7204 2 жыл бұрын
In this last month you've been hands down my favorite KZfaq channel , keep up the good work 🔥
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Well thank you! That’s so nice!
@tobization Жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison that made it very clear for me. Thanks for this video!
@russdenney Жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Thank you so much for conducting this test. I am in the midst of this very lens buying decision and your results reaffirmed my choice.
@KatelynJames Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@meganbrown6052 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you did this!!! I also loooove my 85 for family portraits and reaffirmed my love
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! So glad my love was reaffirmed too 😆
@gregshawphotography8828 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have the RF 28-70 f/2, but I do have the RF 85 1.2, and hands down that lens is one that I will never let go of. I primarily shoot portraits and it is by far my go to lens. I use the RF 70-200 for headshots, and at 200mm that lens is very formidable as well.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
the 85 is my true love!! haha
@Joya5545 2 жыл бұрын
So very helpful Katelyn, I’ve been debating between the 85mm 1.2 and the 28-70 mm 2.0. Ideally I would love to have both, but that’s a ton of cash, so I’ve ordered the 28-70mm. I think it’s going to be ideal for what I shoot most (events) BUT, my next lens is the 85mm for sure (my dream lens) thanks again for this video.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
That is a great way to go!
@betterpixs 10 ай бұрын
Ditto.
@katelyngray4335 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Loved seeing the comparison!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@stephaniestewart6734 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Nikon gal! 🙋🏻♀️My favorite lens is the 85mm 1.4! I absolutely love it, and I use it any chance I have! Loved seeing your comparison photos! Thank you! And I love your sweater again in this video! 🤗
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!! and Thanks for watching!
@sumitkar2704 2 жыл бұрын
You are great - informative, engaging and just flat cool😂😂. Still deciding between the 24-70 and the 28-70
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
We think the 28-70 is totally worth it!!
@JG-np7qp 2 жыл бұрын
I have a similar setup for Sony APSC (used to shoot w/ a Canon 5DmkII) but I have the Sigma 18-50mm 2.8 and the Sigma 56mm 1.4. Although there is less bokeh with APSC, I’m loving the portability. In full frame focal lengths, it’s 28-75, and 85mm
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Jon!
@Gina_Michel 2 жыл бұрын
Soooo interesting! I loved seeing the comparisons side by side. 😲 I’m curious though, what if the 70-200mm was shot at an 85mm focal length. 🤔 Great video!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting to look at!
@DMVPickleBallers 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I totally agree 🤩
@youknowwho9247 2 жыл бұрын
That's more than two stop slower on the zoom. You'll definitely be able to tell the difference.
@deebea6364 2 жыл бұрын
I really love my 85 1.2 DS, but use my 28-70 2 all the time - one thing I love about the 85 DS is that It is letting in less light at 1.2 and matches the light of the 28-70 quite well! (Compared to ef 24-70 2.8 v ef 85 1.2) making editing between the 2 lenses much nicer work flow wise in tricky lighting situations - also makes it easier to shoot at 1.2 in full daylight without needing an ND - my next planned lens is a 35 DS :)))
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Bougie_on_budget_with_Nef 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the 85 vs the 70-200 ! Totally agree the 28-70 would be a great first purchase but wondering for my second !
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@UnconventionalReasoning 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thank you! This was a mind-blowing distinction. The part which was really interesting is that you use f/2.0 for the 85mm also. Since both are among Canon's "best foot forward" lenses, this comparison is somewhat a prime vs zoom evaluation, because the difference seems more than 70 vs 85, especially the full-body images. Which raises the question of doing the same comparison with the 50mm and 35mm, and perhaps including images of those wide open as well? I need more prime lens validation! :-D
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@KTWilliams 2 жыл бұрын
The 85mm 1.2 is my GO TO lens for portrait work! Nothing beats that lens as of now.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
NOTHING!!
@Kelvinjan 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! At 70mm, the 28-70 still looks great but the 85mm just looks even better. I don’t know if most clients could tell, but as an artist, I’d also want the 85mm. And with the R5/R6, you can shoot at even lower apertures with more reliable AF accuracy. Coming from the 5D3, my EF lenses feel new and are tack sharp and I’m not worried about it as much anymore.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!! It’s crazy how much better the AF is on the mirrorless cameras!
@bngr_bngr 2 жыл бұрын
I always use the Canon EF 85/1.2 at 1.2. I use one-shot, never mis focuse.
@bngr_bngr 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Smith sometimes I take a 200/2.0. I like to have a schematics of the venue I'm shooting at. I don't want to under lens a shoot.
@bahaatamer1245 2 жыл бұрын
I found an EF II 85 1.2 up for about $1100 used (LIKE NEW) and I'm still heavily debating if I'll need that or not. University starts in a month, and I'm thinking so hard about it. With the return of people, you can shoot their images and give them something that stands out Currently all I got is a Sigma 18-35 + Canon 90D
@Justmakesomenoiz 2 жыл бұрын
@@bahaatamer1245 i would much prefer the sigma 85 before the Canon glas. But that's me
@kaiwestensee Жыл бұрын
I have exact the same main lenses... RF 28-70 2.0L and the RF85mm 1.2L for 95% of a wedding day and I love them both. They 're extremely sharp monster lenses!
@carastewart6192 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I have been doing photography on a small scale for several years now, and after seeing an increase in grain and loss of sharpness in my photos, (after all, I do have an almost 8 year old camera!) I decided it was time to upgrade. I did a LOT of research, but, honestly, your videos are what convinced me that the R6 was the way to go. After a lot of problems, haha, I finally got my camera - but the lenses have been out of stock! I had decided to go with the 28-70, but, with the wait, was wondering if I should go with something else .. This video answered that for me, so, THANK YOU! 😊 I will continue trying to be patient 😉 Love the 85mm, but definitely not for me right now! Maybe someday!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I would definitely keep waiting/trying to get a 28-70! It'll be worth it!
@carastewart6192 2 жыл бұрын
@@KatelynJames 😊
@bustaubie 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the helpful info and recommendations.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
2 жыл бұрын
You are so funny and honest! I love this review! Prime lenses are called "prime" for a reason, right? Just got the my R6 and I'm so excited! I am still testing it with my EF-L Serie 50mm 1.2 and it is simply gorgeous. Katelyn, the it is that buttery, melty effect of the 85mm that no zoom lenses are not quite there yet. Great, great review!!! :-) Cheers from Texas
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, thank you! Yes the 85 can't be replicated! Thanks for watching!!
@bears4evr1 2 жыл бұрын
The background of the 85mm is neural and non-distracting. The subject stands out so much better, your clients would be happy with both but would be amazed with the 85mm. Thank you for doing this comparison. I would love to see more, 135 vs another lens and I would love to see a comparison if one cannot afford the 105 macro what they could use and what the comparison would look like. Thank you so much for all you do for the photography community and helping me feel empowered!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@robdtoys 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! It was easy to tell the 85mm. I do prefer how the 28-70 photos were edited, they seem to have more contrast and pop! I do prefer the 85mm with that shallow DOF and separation. I don't own the 85mm, it's one lens I would love to have at some point. My favorite lens is the 135mm. I would love to see a comparison between the 85 at 1.2 vs the 135 at 2.0.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
The edits were pretty quick and rough so don’t take that into consideration when judging the lenses!
@aliceatomshine2451 2 жыл бұрын
I love the 85 for outdoor portraits. Definitely a big difference.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I’m honestly surprised how different it was!
@randycook6500 2 жыл бұрын
I sold my rf85 1.2, keeping the 28-70. I just happened upon this video and I want to tell you I like the backgrounds better with the 28-70 mainly because the color is richer and not as washed-out. I also understand it's a very subjective thing and all of the images were good. : )
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ahavens2463 Жыл бұрын
Yes. In my mind, a bride pucks a venue for it's appeal and wants to see pictures in the setting she chose to a degree. I think a portrait where 1 person is the focus is better for 85mm. I think there is use for both.
@inthekitchenwithjosephanthony 2 жыл бұрын
I love your content I’ve had the 28-70 for over a year now and i can’t wait to shoot with the 85 but i could def tell the difference though both are great 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes both are great!!
@martinlemke4440 Жыл бұрын
You are such a kind and positive person. Subscribed!
@KatelynJames Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@LuciaHewitt Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I was surprised that I could see the difference and I've not ever used an 85mm. Would you do a comparison between the 85mm and 135mm?
@aureliocastro6478 2 жыл бұрын
You’re such an inspiration! Blessings from Mexico!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@twoblink 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Nikon 105mm F2DC; and it remains one of my favorite portrait lenses... prime short tele's give great portraits.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@chantalburns550 2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel Kathlyn you are incredible your energy is contagious
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
You are the best Chantal!!
@sadiesofia7605 2 жыл бұрын
The differences shocked me! I could not believe how different they were. Also, I love when your education is also a comedy skit :)
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Sadie!!
@Aetherhole 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video, Katelyn (and Ty)! the 28-70 F2 is my absolute favorite lens. This is coming from a guy who's always been partial to longer focal lengths and always thought I'd prefer the 70-200 F2.8. I definitely do love my RF 70-200 F2.8 lens and between those two lenses I really feel I'm ready for everything. However, there seems to be something absolutely magical about the 85mm prime, especially the RF 85mm F1.2; this video only further proves that point. It's not as high on my priority list to get yet because, as you said, it is a luxury lens, and there's other gear I want/need before that, but eventually I want that lens!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you loved the video! It’s hard to explain why the 28-70 is so magical but there is just something about it! And yes, the 85mm can not be replaced but is defienily not a #1 priority
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you loved the video! It’s hard to explain why the 28-70 is so magical but there is just something about it! And yes, the 85mm can not be replaced but is defienily not a #1 priority
@alexanderv4042 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, this comparison is great! Thank you. Do you think the 85mm f/1.2 lens would be working well for landscapes? What about closeups? Thanks.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
I have not used it for landscapes... but love it for close up portraits!
@stephaniealberse4949 2 жыл бұрын
Love this video! the video edits cracked me up!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks! Ty will love to hear that 🤣
@ShadowlightPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your 3 RF28-70 F2 videos, equally relieved it didn;t kill the RF85 magic. I'm currently agonising over the RF50 vs RF28-70 (Sold my RF24-70 no character, and sold my RF70-200 as the RF85 won out for me. I just do portraits so its either RF15-35 (love the ultra wide crazy portrait look and RF50 or go the RF28-70 route....
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Matt!
@MarcS4R Жыл бұрын
i rented it for an event on Friday, love the rendering, but I have serious wrist pain the day after. I think i may stick to something a little lighter. at the moment i am using a q2 for wide and the rf 50 1.2 which works great
@everydaysnapshots3385 2 жыл бұрын
I held off getting the 85mm for a while. Now it is my favorite. Glad you did this!! Long live the 85mm!!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yes! I’m so relieved I can still say the 85mm is my favorite 😆
@RubenEASalas 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you! And it’s funny because the first video I watched in your channel was the one where you suggest the prime lenses. The sequence of purchase made so much sense to me that it inspired me. Then I bought the 28-70 but always thought about the extra and unique touch of the 85. I had the RF 1.2 but unfortunately it was robbed (I had insurance). Soon I’ll buy it again. Great lens!! And great video, as always 😉
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no sorry to hear that! Hopefully you can find one soon! Thanks for watching!
@jcsalcedo8275 2 жыл бұрын
I love the rf 85! But I felt so limited when in tight spaces, I have a sigma 135 1.8, so I got rid of my rf85 and purchased the 28-70. And I sometimes wish I still had the 85 😩. But the 28-70 has saved me in tight situations or indoor stuff
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! it is tough in tight spaces!
@KristinaRust 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the R6 and love it. Thank you for these great videos. They have been a huge help in getting my off and shooting with my new camera. I'm curious, do you feel that the image quality is much better with a R lens vs its EF counterpart? I'd love to see a comparison of the EF70-200 vs. the R 70-200 or any EF vs. R to see the difference. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Great, congrats! Glad the videos have been helpful! We have plans for a 70-200 showdown video!
@gnkstudios6138 2 жыл бұрын
Probably one of most underrated KZfaq photographers out there. Now I want that 28-70 😂
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
That is very kind!! Thanks for watching!
@dalecartyii3626 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Katelyn and Ty!!! You are awesome!! Can you guys do a shootout comparison to the 35 vs 28-70 and the 50 vs 27-70 as well?
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great idea! Seems to be a popular request!
@amandadaniels156 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 24-70 f/2.8. I just got the RF 28-70 f/2.0 and I’m stoked. I had to wait 3 months to get it cause it was on back order. I finally get to use it this week at a wedding. The 24-70 has always been my favorite so I’m literally stoked for the new one! I’m curious if I will miss that 24-28 focal length? This is my first RF lens and I’m so happy about it. I do have the EF 85 F/1.4 & also love that lens but don’t plan on upgrading to the RF anytime soon because the adapter has been working just fine for me. Great video as always! Btw:: I got them all right also, I knew which photos were the 85mm and which were the 28-70.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@maryhamptonphotography4154 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I needed this. I need to spend some money at the end of the year so I've rented the 24-70 twice but just did not love it either time. Sticking with my prime babies EF 35 and EF 85mm.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Those will be great I’m sure!
@FotografieJan 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite lens that I take out when time permits is the 105 mm Sigma 1.4. It's just like you say, the customer doesn't see the difference but you notice it. Bad that you are always driven here by even more awesome lenses the 85 1.2 RF but also makes mega cool pictures. Here would be a comparison between the two lenses Canon 85 1.2 and the Sigma 105 1.4 very interesting because by the focal length the bokeh is softer again. Mind you, at half the price.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@rilijn Жыл бұрын
I LOVE my Sigma 105 1.4. It's definitely a hog, but its images are magical. My dream combo would be the 28-70 and the Sigma 105. Just gotta save up the cash to make it happen.
@TimothyGordon 2 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic comparison. I’d love to see you compare the rf 28-70’s 70mm compression and f2 against the 50mm f1.2 prime.. and your favourite lens, the 85mm prime against your rf 70-200 f2.8
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Great ideas! We may need to do a video of just comparisons 🤣
@TimothyGordon 2 жыл бұрын
@@KatelynJames thank you!! You’re one of my favourite you tubers👍🏼👍🏼
@Fontsman 2 жыл бұрын
That 85mm f1.2 is stunning. A specialist lens with unique magic. The 28-70 is the excellent allround workhorse.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!!
@RamaSivamani 2 жыл бұрын
I love the 85 but my favorite is the 135mm f/2 if I had to pick one. Even for full body photos stepping back and pulling out the 135mm is my preferred look if I have the space to step back and shoot with that lens. I have an ef 85/1.8 so that's the caveat for that if I had an 85/1.2 maybe my thought process would be different but I still wouldn't get the compression the 135 gives you.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the compression on the 135 is definitely noticeable!
@henrysteadman963 9 ай бұрын
A really interesting comparison, nice one :) much appreciated, beautiful samples too... even of Thai!:) I can see that the RFs really are extremely capable translations of the earlier EF versions, it seems like Canon have thrown some extra special sauce into some of these exciting new lenses. And I'm currently umm'ing and ahh'ing about an upgrade to the RF28-70 f2 over my existing EF 24-70 f2.8 for that extra stop at f2... not for the extra light but for the extra blur... and I wonder if you notice the advantage over earlier f2.8 zooms in this range? I have primes too so I know what f2 looks like obviously, and those primes tend to go to f1.4 as well, but the point about the 28-70mm is the flexibility of having all those focal lengths on the camera at once, so there has to be a compromise somewhere after all! Anyway, would be interested to hear your thoughts...
@sr-ey4xq 10 ай бұрын
Great video! loved it!!!! what filter do you use for the 28-70mm 95mm filter thread? THANK YOU!!!
@thomaschamberlin2485 2 жыл бұрын
I am soon getting my first mirrorless (Nikon Z9). I am discovering that the new lenses built for mirrorless communicate with the camera in ways the old lenses do not. I know the sensor image stabilization works much better with the new lenses (5 stops versus 2.5 stops). I suspect the autofocus is also better. On the other hand some of the old lenses plus the adaptor will work better on the mirrorless than they did on my DSLR.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Yes all my old EF lenses are much better on the mirrorless system with an adapter! The RF ones are slightly faster/sharper but I was super impressed with the performance of the adapter too!
@Point_of_View_Content 2 жыл бұрын
Luv your videos!! Clearly 85mm is king!!! I would luv to see the difference between 28-70 vs 24-70!!!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@tonydib5805 2 жыл бұрын
The comedy alone keeps me engaged. Love the videos 😍🤣
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Haha thank you! I wish I could say I’m trying to be funny 😆
@carolynvines2027 2 жыл бұрын
Darn it! I was hoping the 28 - 70 would suffice; but now you're making me want an 85mm prime. I don't do weddings, typically. My favorite photography is action photos of dogs in a dog park; and I'd love to have the kind of separation I'm seeing with your 85mm.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if the focus speed on the 85mm would be ideal for fast action! A 70-200 may be a better option for that!
@gwmjr7 Жыл бұрын
Hello Katelyn. I love your content and have benefited a great deal from watching it. I do have a question. I just bought my first Canon r6 mirriorless camera. I own a 28-70mm ef 4.0. L series and a 85mm ef (non "L" series). Would you recommend I upgrade to the 28-70mm rf or 85 rf? Your imput is of great value to me. Thanks!
@hardwickpete Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I am wanting an 85mm lens for portraits, and have the r6. The price for the rf 85 is considerably higher than the ef 85mm. I am not at pro level as yet, so should I spend out lots for the rf, or get the more affordable ef? Many thanks in advance, Pete
@KatelynJames Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@carlosread5887 2 жыл бұрын
Images from the 28-70 2.0 are amazing! But i have my old 24-70 2.8, and I feel like I can't do without the 24mm end of my lens. And there's the price issue to consider, too. But I have been thinking about purchasing the 28-70R lens, because it is an R lens (no more adapter) and because of the images it renders.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Makes total sense!
@jonbw12 Жыл бұрын
For me yes you still need the 85mm. I work with these lenses throughout a wedding day. 15-35mm for anything such as group shots, wide angle party pics and dramatic scenary shots. 70-200mm I use to get those unobtrusive shots from a distance, shots where its hard to reach places. My 85mm, gotta love the bokeh and also it has that edge the 24-70/28-70 do not possess and has a unique quality which I still bring along. Although these two lenses are primarily on my camera's I wouldn't shoot a wedding without the 85mm
@JaredRibic 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't until over halfway through the video (9:26) that I realized both lenses were shot at f/2.0 for the test shots. At first I thought the 85mm images were shot at f/1.2. I just picked up the RF 85mm f/1.2L and love it. Still love the RF50mm f/1.2L, even though I have the RF 28-70mm f/2L. I use extension tubes if I need macro.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
I know, it's hard to believe!
@vitawhiting7400 2 жыл бұрын
Ah Katelyn, what a darling you are. I love your videos. You explain so wonderfully every detail. Thank you. I am a beginner in photography and am about to purchase my first mirrorless camera. I wanted the R5 but after I watched your R6 review i decided to get the r6 with rf 28-70mm f2L. But after this video I am not sure which lens to get first? I would very much appreciate your advise. What would you recommend? Thanks you x x
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Haha well thank you! I’d still get the 28-70 first, hands down! You can’t beat the versatility!
@Disbrow 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been rockin the R6 and the RF 50 1.2 Love that combo. For portraits would you still recommend the RF 28-70 over the RF 50 1.2?
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend the 28-70 over the 50,
@TafadzwaMadamombe 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, quick question, what filters did you have on the lenses at 6:05? And what do they do for your shoots?
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
They are just clear filters for protection. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1668977-REG/b_w_66_1101525_67mm_mrc_nano_master_clear.html
@donaldcollins2115 2 жыл бұрын
I love my 85mm also. It's my absolute favorite lens. Magical results.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Haha magical seems like the only appropriate word!!
@sarahmocke Жыл бұрын
Thank you, this helped me decide which lens I wanted to purchase. Wish you’d had an affiliate link up.
@kathryndouglasphoto 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kate, Love your videos and enthusiasm! I LOVE the 85mm lens and I have the EF version. I notice when shooting a black and white object, for instance a model with a black and white hat and dress, that I got a red chromatic aberration on the B+W objects no matter what I did! That was with my 5D M3 and R6 so it's not camera dependent. Have you noticed this with the RF version?
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm sounds like that just may be an issue with your lens. I have not noticed that same issue wit the RF version but I didn't notice it with my EF version either. It may just be something you have to deal with on those extreme circumstances. It may be worth it to reach out to Canon to see if this is a common issue or if there is something wrong with your specific lens!
@thanhd4611 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. What do you think about the DS version vs. the regular RF 85 1.2L. What is your opinion? Thanhs!
@charlottestrandlen6934 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Can I ask you how often do you switch from the 28-70 to your 85 during a wedding day? And also, when do you switch to the 85? Which parts of a wedding day :) I just bought the 28-70 and hopefully I will like it, never shot with a zoom lens bedore
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
I have shot a full wedding with the 28-70! I pull our the 85 mainly during portraits.
@janiscollette1737 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this. I shoot with Sony A7R4 and have a 24-70 Sigma and just got an 85 1.4. Was feeling a little guilty having both. Thank you for confirming that really I do NEED both....lol! Question though, what do you use for super wide angle shots at weddings. Are you satisfied with the 24 focal length? Oh, by the way...just purchased your Preset Process package...Fantastic!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
I only use the 28-70 for wide shots! I find it to be plenty wide for my style! Thanks for purchasing the Preset Process!! Glad to hear you're loving it!
@aliciaarroyo6 2 жыл бұрын
Dang! Thank you for this video!!! I was going to buy one or the other. I really want the 85 but I feel the 28-70 would have more use. Now seeing that I can’t not buy the 85mm
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
I think he would love to 28-70!
@RitchieLinao 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice review. 28-70mm can be a good replacement for 35mm 1.4 and 50mm 1.2 if weight and price is not a problem. As a wedding photographer, 1.2, 1.8 or f2 doesn't matter to me. What's important to me is to capture moments and be creative with compositions. So I would still prefer the cheaper 1.8 RF 50 and 35 primes. Hoping Canon will release a $500 RF 50mm 1.8 for better quality just like the 35mm 1.8.
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
That would be great for a lot of R6 shooters!
@AdventuringAbbeys 2 жыл бұрын
Best video yet, KJ! SO informative & helpful & literally answered questions I was just thinking about! Thank you SO much for creating this one!!
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! Ty will be very happy to hear comments like this 😂 Glad it was helpful!!
@mariolopez.photog 2 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video!!! And yes the rf 28-70 f/2.0 is so Amazing, I love it!!! For the 85mm are you using the rf 85mm 1.2 L DS or the rf 85mm 1.2 L lens? I think you are loving the non DS version but I don't want to assume.. And if I own the er 85mm 1.4 L would you upgrade to the rf version of which ever one you love???
@KatelynJames 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mario! I use the regular RF 85mm! The EF 85mm 1.4 is still an amazing lens and performs great with the adapter. No need to rush to upgrade unless you have all your other bases covered and you have room in your budget for it! I do love the RF version but both are great!
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