Senior Bowl and Alex Van Pelt HIRED as Patriots OC

Senior Bowl and Alex Van Pelt HIRED as Patriots OC | Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast

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On the most recent installment of the Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast w/ Nick Cattles, Greg and Nick delve into Bedard's insights from the Senior Bowl and offer their real-time reactions to the announcement that Alex Van Pelt will be appointed as the Patriots' new offensive coordinator.
0:00 Belichick shut out as Quinn goes to Commanders, Eagles a factor in 2025?
10:46 Bedard's trip to Senior Bowl
18:24 Demarcus Covington DC and Jeremy Springer ST Coach
38:46 Alex Van Pelt Hired as OC
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@josephkelley8634 5 ай бұрын

So nice of you to give Kraft some time. I understand as the Pats have only been to 10 SBs since Kraft bought the team.

@mattesyl33 5 ай бұрын

The West coast style Offense is simplified enough to teach to anyone coming into the NFL from college, yet no SO different of an O style that NE will need to overhaul the players they have (and want) immediately either, like they would kind of need to do with the newer Shanahan Style Offense. He was an unexpected name but the more I think about it, Van Pelt is everything I was hoping for in NE's new OC (under new HC Mayo). Experienced, good with QBs, and he's not likely to bounce to a new team as a HC if this works out in NE. ☑️➕️👍👍. LFG Pats!

@davidleblanc1811 5 ай бұрын

I agree. This is a shrewd hire

@claudevaillancourt3574 5 ай бұрын

Is it not clear enough that Bill the GM was the source of all the problems because of his ego? He started 10 years ago or so to believe he was a genius. It pushed him to make dumb decisions after dumb decisions as GM and he won three more Super Bowls living on players he drafted before he started believing he was a genius. Why do you think Caley was the #1 candidate to be OC before Van Pelt was hired? Because he should have been well ahead of Patricia for that job when McDaniels left, but Bill the genius decided that Patricia and Judge were a better solution. Caley left after that out of frustration. Mac Jones was also very frustrated by this dumb move. He was happy to be drafted by N-E because he thought he would have great coaching and support and he ended up with Laurel & Hardy in his second year with no supporting cast around him. Sorry, nothing against Patricia and Judge, but to put them in that position was just delirious. Bill simply became out of control as a GM, simply crazy. That's why he is out of a job now, the whole league is aware of what he became overall . His only way to redemption is to accept a head coaching job with an already good roster where he will concentrate only on coaching and forget about the rest of the operation. It was impossible to retain only Bill the head coach in N-E, that's why he is out. And with the hiring of Van Pelt over Caley, you can see a desire to purge most of the ties, direct or indirect with the Belicick era. I would be surprised if the two sons remain with the organization.

@geoganson3871 5 ай бұрын

Bill never had an problem with any other QB besides Mac. If Mac had listened to coaches they would have been in the playoffs

@geoganson3871 5 ай бұрын

Notice this year what was Mac's best game bills what happened the week before the person Mac was talking to stopped talking to Mac and Mac was awesome

@claudevaillancourt3574 5 ай бұрын

Ask Drew Bledsoe and Brady was there the rest of the time except the year he missed and Cassels had Randy Moss and Wes Welker. @@geoganson3871

@coastalgenetics6512 5 ай бұрын

@@geoganson3871never had a problem w/ any other QB? He ran the greatest QB of our time out of town man. Brady left because of Bill. Don’t get me wrong, Bill is very possibly the greatest HC of all time. As a GM over the last decade he’s been horrible. Look at the personnel decisions and some of the contracts those stiffs got.

@davidleblanc1811 5 ай бұрын

@@coastalgenetics6512he also ran Bernie Kosar out of Cleveland. Browns fans are still pissed about that.

@KDOrtiz-sd6wr 5 ай бұрын

Other teams are trying to keep the patriots down as much the can...but we are getting back to a championship form. We have always been look at different but its normal we have been the team to be for the last 24 years and counting causes no one is us.

@chrispyd603 5 ай бұрын

You’re crazy 😜

@patriotsdynasty4866 5 ай бұрын

Lmao championship form? Dude we are an expansion team. No QB, No good WRs, no TE, worst Oline in the league, rookie coach, no GM. Actually if you look at the state Belidunce left us in paying washed up scrubs like Parker and Juju unmovable contracts , we are worse than an expansion team

@trainkobe2424 5 ай бұрын

Right … f*** what they talkin about.. I remember DET was 0-16 look at dem now

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

If they draft a franchise qb then there's hope, otherwise no chance. Back to the pre Parcells/Belichick teams which Kraft seems to prefer. He doesn't like one guy having too much power even if it means SB appearances. He wants a group of low-paid collaborators that are willing to sit down and have tea and cookies with the Krafts. How sweet. Even Brady recently said the Patriot Way doesn't exist. It's just a figment of Kraft's imagination that they all play along with when their paycheck depends on it.

@claudevaillancourt3574 5 ай бұрын

I have a hard time understanding the bashing of the Patriots offensive systeme that led them to 6 SB wins, 9 SB presence, and 13 conference final in 18 years with Brady. Mac Jones did well in this system as a rookie with not much around him, so this system was not the problem, the damn problem was our "genius" GM freakin Bill Belichick who drafted awfully on offense since drafting Gronk, and made a lot of other dumb moves like replacing Jakobi with JuJu. Again the problem was Belichick the GM, especially on the offensive side of the ball. He never realised that Brady made up for so many of his dumb ass moves.

@DSlav2488 5 ай бұрын

The problem with their system is that tom brady is the only guy on the planet that can run it. So unless you have tom brady...you're fucked. No one else can run it. It wasn't their "system" that led them to those championships; it was brady. Brady was the system. It wasn't belichick. Brady then led a bad previously bad TB team to a championship the very next year.

@michaellalli7693 5 ай бұрын

@@DSlav2488100% correct

@pl33 5 ай бұрын

welcome van pelt

@youtubeconnollyfamily 5 ай бұрын

Also slater when he retires needs to be special teams coach.

@thatDUDEfromMAINE 5 ай бұрын

i second the notion

@leemzgoogle917 5 ай бұрын

Why do people automatically assume that just because someone was good at something (great, at something, even) that they are going to be great at TEACHING it? Not everyone is suited for teaching/coaching.

@kevinburgoyne7496 5 ай бұрын

Isn't VP from the Kubiak-tree?

@flyingelvis8850 5 ай бұрын

1/3 QB Jayden Daniels 2/34 OT Patrick Paul 3/68 WR Roman Wilson

@thomaskelly8571 5 ай бұрын

That would be absolutely perfect!! Love the Paul pick he is going to be very good.

@aboveSubparBallAnalysis 5 ай бұрын

1 25/ yard down w beats and then to trade down to 25 for an edge rusher - And extend Barmore Last year

@Berto617 5 ай бұрын

@@aboveSubparBallAnalysis what?

@tonystarks7722 5 ай бұрын

I'm a drake maye guy , but guess this is cool ,

@ChuchuJS 5 ай бұрын

@@aboveSubparBallAnalysis😂😂 Bill didn’t we fire you ? GTFOH

@tonystarks7722 5 ай бұрын

Im trying to figure out when we cutting godchaux , lawrence guy , jc jackson , and devante parker ,

@davidleblanc1811 5 ай бұрын

Why would you cut Godchaux?? He’s one of the best Tackles in the league. And he’s locked up on a cap-friendly deal. Guy will prob retire anyway. Either way I have DT as a target need in the draft. They have zero depth. And with Covington as the DC, they will def be targeting talent on the line

@tonystarks7722 5 ай бұрын

@davidleblanc1811 he is not nor ever be one of the best in the league, again the money he will be owed , he did. Nothing this year

@davidleblanc1811 5 ай бұрын

@@tonystarks7722 if that’s what you think then you don’t know anything about d-line play. I’m extremely happy that Bill extended him. There are lots of problems with the roster but ain’t one of them

@Jakery1057 5 ай бұрын

Eliot Wolf was director of pro personnel and Alex Van Pelt was QB coach during Aaron Rodgers MVP season in 2014. Pats thinking QB at pick #3??

@articularpack6422 5 ай бұрын

Probably since VP is supposedly a QB whisperer

@michaellalli7693 5 ай бұрын

Yep, Wolf & Van Pelt worked together in Green Bay from 2012-1017

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

I think Rodgers would be ok without Van Pelt. Please.

@horacewilliamsjr-Author 5 ай бұрын

I'm not surprised Bill and Vrabel got passed over. Could you look at their track record? Vrabel is not bringing a young Derrick Henry with him. And if Bill wanted total control, that's a no-go. Could you take a look at his recent drafts? He could have been better at drafting and developing offensive players. Patriots have stunk on offense since Tom left. Why would you bring these guys into a young team that needs offensive improvement? I'm ready to try new things here in NE, especially on offense. Let's go AVP! Let's draft some quality top-tier offensive guys this year.

@paynejr8707 5 ай бұрын

I agree with everything Nick said 🤝🏾

@youtubeconnollyfamily 5 ай бұрын

Pats need this rebuild and I’m liking it so far. Now draft daniels

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Hiring cheap nothings like Van Pelt excites you? How exactly are you related to the Krafts? Jonathan, is that you, you nepotistic fool? How exactly great is it to be a filthy rich kid that did nothing to deserve it anyway?

@GonzoDuke 5 ай бұрын

Jon and Robyn are the real GMs.

@stanleywalus9771 5 ай бұрын

In San Antonio they have a coach should he be fired??? What will be the judge is the record of all those hired. Were you on board for drafting of Mac? Strange a lot of leaks from Pats side, negative reports why?

@dieselblue23 5 ай бұрын

As a Raiders tragic for 40 plus years in Australia... not all dynasties recover quickly ... 70s 80s and 90s Raiders were "committed to excellence" ... last 30 years pain

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

The Pats dynasty is over. It was all the combination of Brady/Belichick and they are gone. Unless they get lucky and get a franchise qb in upcoming draft, they will just be an also-ran for a long time, possibly a laughingstock again like they were. I'm a Pats fan, but have been well before the dynasty started so I know what a joke franchise looks like. I also know the difference that first Parcells, and then more importantly, Belichick made. I can't stand these frontrunner Patriot fans that jumped on the bandwagon and know nothing about football. They're a bunch of idiots that take everything for granted. Kraft loves them because they mean money and the media kowtows to them. They don't deserve any more success and I've had enough fun with the real dynasty and will have no problem watching them suffer and fall off the bandwagon as frontrunners do. Other fans around the league have every right to hate those Patriot fans because they are morons.

@geoganson3871 5 ай бұрын

Kraft wanted juju and Bill didn't

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

The worst was Kraft wanting Mac Jones and Bill didn't. That was the first of the Kraft's Kollaborators picks. Bill probably regrets going along with it, but clearly he didn't want to leave. Kraft couldn't stand Parcells having too much power and he hated Bill having too much power. He has said it many times, just have to listen. He now says how great it is that he can talk to anyone he wants without having to go thru one person. He's even too much of a coward to say Bill, he says "one person". Gee Bob, who possibly could that person be? Kraft went along with it because of all the SBs, but one year after Brady gone and he inserted himself completely. Maybe they get lucky with a franchise qb, otherwise they will become the joke that Kraft has always tried to direct them to be.

@jasonmiller7806 5 ай бұрын

Not one down has been played. You don’t know what will happen in the draft or free agency. For everyone saying we should have hired Vrabel, HE GOT FIRED IN TENNESSEE. And Bill, as much as I love him, he sucked after Brady left. Let’s rebuild and see what happens!

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Let's all enjoy the Kraft trainwreck that is about to unfold. Should be good for a few laughs.

@EastieRick 5 ай бұрын

He didn’t want to leave it in good shape at all he destroyed it on purpose I’ve said it before ever since he didn’t get his way with the Brady and Jimmy G decision he was dismantling it to make it hard for Brady to stick around.

@Racex777 5 ай бұрын

Mike Vrabel should have been the new head coach of the New England Patriots. But they went with the DEI hire instead!

@jasonmiller7806 5 ай бұрын

Vrabel got fired in Tennessee because he sucked.

@jarredallsopp602 5 ай бұрын

Let me kno u racist without sayin u racists 😂 that’s all u ppl been saying dei hire or maybe Kraft promised him the job so he don’t leave last yr kno what u talkin bout buddy

@Racex777 5 ай бұрын

@@jarredallsopp602 no not racist just want the best coach possible for the team I have supported for 45 years! It seems to me that belichick got lucky with the Goat for a couple of decades. Mayo was never Teddy, Willie, T Law or even Milloy. All drafted by Parcells.

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Kraft just likes to choose the people he wants, and yes I expect he is very proud of the "historic" decision he made. Kraft knows nothing about football. He married into money and then gets lucky with Brady/Belichick. He probably only hired Bill as revenge against Parcells and the Jets. He's played the system and got lucky. He kind of deserves some suffering now before he passes on. That's what Mac Jones was for.

@thedesertpooch9664 5 ай бұрын

OK so we got OC, DC and special teams head coaches, what other coaching positions are still open? TE? O-line?

@tonystarks7722 5 ай бұрын

Apparently we got a new o line coach from Seattle

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Like these nothings make any difference. They probably have 50 coaches, who cares.

@Chauncey-Holt 5 ай бұрын

I understand there’s a lot that is going to happen before September, but I think there’s a real chance for this team to be in disarray next season.

@spa2damax 5 ай бұрын

They have a ton of spaces to fill on the roster. But I'm happy with the hires.

@Chauncey-Holt 5 ай бұрын

@@spa2damax The hires are pretty bad IMO. I hope they just start to add quality talent. That’s 80% of the game anyway.

@thatDUDEfromMAINE 5 ай бұрын

@Chauncey60 who should they have hired then?

@jasonmiller7806 5 ай бұрын

Not a single down played yet. Give the new OC a chance. You bitch that he was fired from Cleveland but wanted Vrabel as HC who got fired in Tennessee. Make it make sense. This could be great! And if not?????…….it has to be better than the last 4 years.

@trainkobe2424 5 ай бұрын

@@thatDUDEfromMAINEright Mf think they kno everything. Mf ain’t giving nobody a chance.. he might be good you’ll never kno

@geoganson3871 5 ай бұрын

Its amazing how kraftd listen to media and made bill take O'Brien and the offense was worse

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Kraft ran Parcells out of town, shouldn't be much of a surprise. Kraft really wants to be Jerry Jones, but he doesn't even have the talent for that. You want a good Asian massage parlor though then Kraft's the guy.

@sriramkrishnan8029 5 ай бұрын

What happened to the Lions in the NFC title game happened to the Patriots in 2006/7 against the Colts.

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Sort of, but not exactly the same. The Lions lost that game very quickly near the end when they fell apart. The Pats got off to a good lead in 2nd qtr after some Colts mistakes, but then Peyton stopped making mistakes and started bringing them back. The Colts just got closer and closer and it ended up being a tight game. The Pats did not choke it away at the end. It was the one time that Manning played horribly early, but then flipped the switch and played great after that all the way to the end. The Pats D was a little older at that point and they were spent in the 2nd half. They just couldn't stop Manning at the end. Brady was always better playing from behind than ahead so it was kind of a reverse situation. The Pats probably still could have put the game away on a 3rd down pass to Troy Brown, but Brown did not cut to the wide open sideline. Instead he stopped and Sanders was able to come over and knock the 1st down pass away. Brady runs up to Brown after pointing to the sideline. That one decision was probably the game. First down there and it was most likely over. They had a lot of close calls over the years, usually the Pats came out ahead, but a few times they didn't. I found the 2005 playoff loss in Denver more frustrating as the Pats dominated the game, but lost due to 4 turnovers while Denver had none. Throw in a couple of suspect referee calls too. They should have won that game and they would have been hosting the Steelers in the AFC championship game the following week and they always dominated the Steelers. Then to SB vs the Seahawks where they most likely would have won, but who knows.

@TedTucholski 5 ай бұрын

Happy happy Joy joy

@ironPatriots48 5 ай бұрын

I really have to agree with Greg... The players that have came into the league in the passed 3 years, do not like to be coached hard. This season alone, you seen players screw up on the field, walk off the field, and ignore the coach and what he has to say. Sitting in the back bench with their arms crossed. Honestly if you get paid millions of dollars to play football, and can't take a Belichick, Vrabel type of coaching, then this league is not for you. Hard coaching has produced some of the best players to ever come through the league.

@michaellalli7693 5 ай бұрын

Bills Drafts have been abysmal since 2015, his people skills got worse, but promoting Matt Patricia and Joe Judge to run the offense after McDaniels and all their offensive coaches left was absolutely insane. Kraft said he’s earned the right to run the football team his way. Well, Bill’s last four years aren’t really much for a resume looking for another HC job. Bill is retired for the year.

@jeremylundeen9798 5 ай бұрын

2006 afc title game, Pats up 18 at half. Lost. He said that wouldn't happen under Bill.

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Generalities never make sense, but big difference having 18 pt lead in 2nd qtr against Peyton Manning and the Colts to what the Lions had. You think that Manning can't come back from 18 down in the 2nd quarter? Are you serious? If so, you are a clown not really even worthy of a reply but I felt like ripping you one anyway, Jeremy Lundeen.

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

We got the cheapest guy, yippee.

@GregMatses 5 ай бұрын

Van Pelt will fix Mac in short order

@MrBacchus18 5 ай бұрын

Does he own a magic wand?

@GregMatses 5 ай бұрын

Hogwarts level.. Mac will win comeback player of the year

@Willie-es1df 5 ай бұрын

Bro Mac is gone patriots declining his fifth year option no way he starts after he costs us the season every game he played in he threw 2 plus costly int he's trash bro he has to have everything perfect for him to be good like he had at Alabama

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

If you really think that then you are completely deranged. You should just stop watching football, you have never understood anything you've seen anyway. You are the typical frontrunning Patriot fan that all other fans around the country laugh at. That is, if you really believe what you said in the comment.

@bjohnwilliams 5 ай бұрын

Nick Cattles putting the krafts on notice 😂. Who is this guy?

@geoganson3871 5 ай бұрын

Nick think Bill will try and mess with the pats lol

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Of course the Krafts are on notice. Kraft ran Parcells/Belichick out of town after that SB team and they went down badly over the next 3 years even though they had good young talent. Kraft gave up on his Carroll/Grier collaboration and brought Belichick back probably just to spite the Jets. Well, Belichick took that team with some talent and quickly added more and made it the dynasty we all know and love. Of course Brady was huge, but it was Bill that drafted him and put him ahead of Bledsoe even when 1/2 the Boston media said that was crazy. If they don't win in 2001, don't be surprised if Kraft ended up firing Belichick and reinserting Bledsoe before the dynasty really got going. Now Kraft has got exactly what he wants, a group of low paid toadies he calls collaborators with none of them being responsible for anything that happens. Recipe for disaster.

@x6505x 5 ай бұрын

Greg for the love of God get another co-host. I can't take this guys condescending, nasally, preaching every single pod. I've had to stop listening 5 minutes into your last dozen videos. Let him cook on his own channel. I don't always agree with your analysis but at least I can respect your craft. Nick on the other hand..yeesh

@1994sportsfanatic 5 ай бұрын

You’re so right much more interested to hear what Greg says instead.

@notabot9181 5 ай бұрын

Yeah this Nick guy is a rough listen

@ayalave75 5 ай бұрын

There is hope, Nick recently started his own podcast, so im sure when he gets enough people to buy into his BS, he will move on and Greg will find someone that is hopefully better.

@jimreed336 5 ай бұрын

I could not agree more. No respect for the Cattle.

@Rychek22 5 ай бұрын

Erase the names from 3 up 3 down. Who's running the attention to detail and Quality Control in this operation?? Lol

@leemzgoogle917 5 ай бұрын

It'll be a minor miracle if this team doesn't have the #1 pick in the draft next year. They are gonna SUCK so bad we'll be longing for the days of Dick McPherson.

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

They'll probably have the #1 pick many times in the next 10 years now that Kraft is in total control.

@Dusty_617 5 ай бұрын

Some passive aggressiveness towards mayo from Bernard. Wonder why

@geoganson3871 5 ай бұрын

It would be funny if these new coaches don't want the media involved all yhese media people would be done

@mrsnoopyaaaaa 5 ай бұрын

Alex, Van Pelt is good enough for me zero affiliation with the old crap. Let’s see what happens. We need Elliot Wolf to make blockbuster trades with teams and get some decent talent because the free agency market sucks. We got a trade for a fourth round pick just like what San Fran did With Lance. And I wouldn’t mind if we traded for Justin Field. If we can’t get the quarterback at number three, then we can get Marvin Harrison Junior, and then make a trade for another superstar, wide receiver, and tight end resign Henry. Cut juju cut Parker cut Mills cut chow cut tan Thornton get rid of Cole. Strange he sucks and start over again.

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

There will be no blockbuster trades. You will be sadly disappointed.

@mrsnoopyaaaaa 5 ай бұрын

@@stickman1742 no he won’t we never make blockbuster trades. That’s why craft is a terrible owner. He won’t pay big bucks for a high-quality guy not gonna be disappointed I’m expecting that that’s why we’re gonna be the last place every year.

@gosiahodge3462 5 ай бұрын

Amazing how in 4 years the premier organization in the NFL..Patriots...has turned in to a dumpster fire.

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

You think going down over 4 years is amazing? Apparently you know little about the NFL, 4 years is a lifetime. The average player last maybe 3 years. The amazing part was keeping a dynasty running for almost 2 decades, but a great qb with a great coach can do that. They're gone and now it is the Kraft Klownshow. Should be good for a laugh anyway.

@kai-hv6nx 5 ай бұрын

Greg for the love of god stop saying "uhmm" 😆 😆

@Willie-es1df 5 ай бұрын

Yes sir pats are getting back to championship form

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Subtle satire, I like it.

@paynejr8707 5 ай бұрын

NE has not changed with the times and it’s hurt the growth of the team. Penny pinching 🤏🏾 with a championship pedigree is crazy! Kansas City has stayed a float investing or at at least grabbing decent level talent that can excel in the right situations. Dang that’s exactly how we used to do it lol only difference is we had a FRANCHISE QB….

@fredranahan8976 5 ай бұрын

i hate the hire of Van Pelt..old school Kubiak style wast coast offense..very predictable..this is why Cleveland was one and done, no experiece in play calling..i was hoping for a younger innovate hire, Van Pelt has been lack luster and fired every where he has been..

@flxko438 5 ай бұрын

Issue with a young up and coming hire is you get no consistency. Few good seasons and the guys going to another team and ya back at square one.

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Kraft isn't innovative, in fact he's completely clueless. He just likes to hire people that will take a low salary and are willing to sit down and have tea and cookies with the Krafts.

@azrielmyangel 5 ай бұрын

Wait...so what you're saying is...the Patriots got rid of the GOAT because they needed a "change"...but they're not going to change how the team operates? Seems fucking dumb

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Yes, everything going on now makes no sense. They wanted to make a change, but all they did was get rid of the top guy and keep everyone else. I'd have some respect if Kraft had cleaned house, but clearly he has no clue what he is doing. Although, it's also easy to see that when you listen to what Kraft actually says. He's an idiot when he talks about football. He sounds like some angry fan sitting in the stands that has no clue why things happen the way they do, which for most of his life he was. Nothing changed while he's been the owner, still clueless as ever.

@fitzb8265 5 ай бұрын

These guys are pathetic ✌🏾

@mikeramos6272 5 ай бұрын

Classic case of the devil you know and the devil you dont... This is what happens when you go with the devil you don't. Hope everyone who wanted belichick out is happy now. You can hear in Greg's voice the concern over the recent hiring with the team. Cause I'm really concerned. This team is gonna be a disaster this coming season. On the bright side, gonna be another high draft pick for 2025!

@articularpack6422 5 ай бұрын

Jeez save some optimism for the rest of us

@flxko438 5 ай бұрын

Mate Bill was never winning us another superbowl. He was terrible the past 4-5 years and we were on a downward trojectory.

@stickman1742 5 ай бұрын

Unless they get lucky with a real franchise qb in the draft, this is going to be the ultimate clownshow. I enjoyed the 2 decade actual dynasty and don't expect to ever see the likes of that again. Now just aim at the Krafts and fire away at what they will become.