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11 жыл бұрын

Nick Trott and Mike Duff discuss the story of Ayrton Senna's legendary win in the Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 race at the Nurburgring GP circuit in 1984 - and how it inspired Mike to buy his own 190E.
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@TheIpankCorleone
@TheIpankCorleone 9 жыл бұрын
Legendary Car Legendary Driver Legendary Ayrton Senna
@Dave.S.TT600
@Dave.S.TT600 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! just watched the whole race. Senna And Lauda are great. Interesting that people have said Lauda didn't like the rain. I met Senna in Adelaide in 85. He went out of his way to give me a sticker (decal) when i approached him in the Pitlane (i sneaked into the heavily guarded Pitlane when an F1-11 Jet did a Fly-over and everyone looked up!..i was 15 yrs old) Senna graciously walked about 10 metres out of his way, to get me a sticker after i'd approached him without a pen for an Autograph. I shook his hand and wished him well for the Raceday. This must have been on a Thurs or Friday before Sunday's race actually. (He was with Lotus at the time) Sidenote- i met Hazel Chapman too, in the Lotus Pit.
@zoxischillin8462
@zoxischillin8462 5 жыл бұрын
@Mega Megatron Diddo, sounds like Senna was fully passionate about the race community. What a great story.
@ryoichiwatanabe648
@ryoichiwatanabe648 5 жыл бұрын
You are blessed
@MrBluntNose
@MrBluntNose 4 жыл бұрын
Senna was a great guy. Thx for sharing!
@TheCarsfan4ever
@TheCarsfan4ever 3 жыл бұрын
Have you used the decal or do you still have it?
@Dave.S.TT600
@Dave.S.TT600 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCarsfan4ever i mounted it in a frame under a iconic Senna photo image...but to my horror, my Sister threw it out when Dad passed away and during the ensuing house clear out. (i had it stored at Dads) ps- mark your name on anything you have stored at your parents' house!
@AntiGravityCapt
@AntiGravityCapt 8 жыл бұрын
I was there in the rain and saw this wonderful race and it was all Senna and Lauda to the very end totally great and one of the best races I have ever witnessed.
@LUIZINHU00
@LUIZINHU00 7 жыл бұрын
I try to imagine the shock that must have been to see lauda left behind the whole race. Who could imagine that happening then?? Today all of us know that only one person could have done that, and thank god there was a lot more to be seeing...#SennaSempre
@lightningsmokerXx
@lightningsmokerXx 6 жыл бұрын
so did you see the supposed Senna forcing Prost out of the way on the first corner? Did it happen that way ? Also didn't Lauda start from the back and have to work his way to the front?
@Berchol
@Berchol 6 жыл бұрын
Cry me a river. Prost would be left behind sooner or later anyway
@francisconeto8040
@francisconeto8040 5 жыл бұрын
You're a lucky one!
@torment12345
@torment12345 11 жыл бұрын
one of the best looking mercedes ever
@loh3869
@loh3869 11 жыл бұрын
Hell of a car. I owned one of these for 11 years and loved every minute of it. Sadly (now) I traded it in for an E36 M3 and in retrospect I wish I kept it. I love M3s too but MB had a real winner with this one and not many people know that. This is truly a special car and one I can see owning again someday.
@Jackbyrne77
@Jackbyrne77 11 жыл бұрын
Contrary to the notion that Mercedes recognised the significance of the Senna 190E, I've read stories that the head of Mercedes was actually quite annoyed when Senna won the race. The plan was to display the winning car in the Mercedes museum because the winner was expected to be an F1 World Champion, however Senna hadn't even won a race. When the head of Mercedes questioned the value of the car he was quickly pulled aside and told words to the effect "I'd hold onto that car if I was you".
@leonardopadua7536
@leonardopadua7536 Жыл бұрын
As a Brazilian let me say this... Rock Paper Scissors is super very competitive in Brasil... Our nature is to be very obnoxious and competitive at something small like that... So that is just to give you all an idea of how serious Senna was taking a race of that nature. Specially with all the names there, and racing the very same car... It is the most ideal race for a professional, everyone using the same equipment. I bet he really wanted to win that more than he ever did want to win a race up to that point
@apmirkin1481
@apmirkin1481 8 жыл бұрын
two cars to own before you die. 2.3 190e cosworth merc and the Honda NSX. thank you Senna
@csiny88
@csiny88 8 жыл бұрын
+apmirkin Probably you meant the HONDA NSX?
@apmirkin1481
@apmirkin1481 8 жыл бұрын
+Eric Rivera exactly. people seem to think its a Nissan or a mclaren nsx... (sarcasm does not dobwwll on here)
@B__L
@B__L 8 жыл бұрын
+apmirkin i've never heard anyone mistake it for a nissan or mclaren other than you
@juandef4115
@juandef4115 8 жыл бұрын
+R. elentless Honda and mclaren work together in formula one.... you never notice the mans sarcasm on here?
@apmirkin1481
@apmirkin1481 8 жыл бұрын
+R. elentless ?????????????
@general_pinochet
@general_pinochet 9 жыл бұрын
how can anyone dislike this video !
@MegaMymusiclist
@MegaMymusiclist 7 жыл бұрын
Haters gonna hate.
@vascofrancisco9903
@vascofrancisco9903 5 жыл бұрын
They don't like cars.
@StarFox85
@StarFox85 5 жыл бұрын
prost & schumacher fans!
@n0te618
@n0te618 6 жыл бұрын
Shit still brings a tear to my eyes, Imagine Schumie and Senna going head to head in the 90's.
@jo23bulls
@jo23bulls 10 жыл бұрын
Dad had a 190E....miss that car. :((
@dnrc
@dnrc 10 жыл бұрын
great vid guys. I own a 190 2.3-16 which I have also ran round the nordschliefe, and am a big fan of the senna legend. Cheers
@adamwest9910
@adamwest9910 9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Caine i currently own a volvo 240 but i will save to afford a 2.5 16
@francisconeto8040
@francisconeto8040 5 жыл бұрын
Ayrton Senna from Brazil, zil, zil!
@peskachina
@peskachina 5 жыл бұрын
There is the full video of the race on youtube!!
@twotif454
@twotif454 11 жыл бұрын
Senna wasn't the only one TRYING to win that irrelavent race. But he was the only one TALENTED enough to win it in that group. He had to pass Prost and Lauda in order to win. I can guarantee you that neither of those two LET Senna pass them for the win. Yes the race was meaningless. But the best driver still won!! A word of advice......Don't EVER question Senna's greatness. You'll lose EVERY TIME!!!
@pauloribeiro64
@pauloribeiro64 10 жыл бұрын
A Great CAR and a genious racer!
@DrZsbl
@DrZsbl 11 жыл бұрын
The leather on the seats still looks perfect.
@dhurjatimishra1230
@dhurjatimishra1230 11 жыл бұрын
SENNA=RESPECT
@nswgb69
@nswgb69 11 жыл бұрын
There has to be full race film some where! I have to see it.
@derisme1987
@derisme1987 10 жыл бұрын
I dont think you have any business telling anyone to "stop fawning" over a man who won in Monaco five times, was a maestro in wet weather, and was probably the greatest ever at qualifying laps. But yes, of course drivers like Prost, Piquet, and Mansell deserve their fair share of praise
@Yojikman
@Yojikman 10 жыл бұрын
That's really great video with GREAT information!!!!!
@MercsDude
@MercsDude 11 жыл бұрын
Great story. Thank you for posting it.
@casperholm1691
@casperholm1691 11 жыл бұрын
I have had 4 2,3-16 in my opinion : Best car ever built , compact fast, sporty, handling, comfort, realiable, 4seater sunrroof aircondition not very expensive and above all, goodlooking what more to wish C Denmark i
@user-jx6tu9nt3r
@user-jx6tu9nt3r 4 сағат бұрын
Для меня лично нет сомнений - это одно из самых эффективных воплощений инженерной мысли и истинной любви к тому, что ты производишь (речь о Бенце 190 и той команде, которая ЕГО создала). Отдельное уважение памяти и гению Сенны.
@TheGeorge333
@TheGeorge333 11 жыл бұрын
A wonderful piece to say the least and great homage to one the greatest men to ever get behind a steering wheel: Aryton Senna. Though that now storied 1984 race with Senna behind the wheel of a 190e cosworth has commanded attention from automotive journalists and car enthusiasts alike, it fell into much obscurity for years. It's nice to see a tv program shed light on what was an historic race foreshadowing the f1 success of Senna. Plus, the 190 cosworth is more interesting than an e30 m3.
@bb3xhrhj
@bb3xhrhj 11 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that despite not listening to the story at all, you still found something worthwhile to point out.
@roywhiteo5
@roywhiteo5 10 жыл бұрын
if they had recorded this race, it would have been one of the greatest videos ever. world champions from the 60's- 90 all racing against eachother
@daltonv5206
@daltonv5206 4 жыл бұрын
They did...
@thatonenigeriansformula
@thatonenigeriansformula 2 жыл бұрын
They did i will send you a link
@stronghold10a
@stronghold10a 11 жыл бұрын
Great peace Evo. Thanks very much
@Law19157
@Law19157 10 жыл бұрын
makes me want to buy one of those now
@Dave.S.TT600
@Dave.S.TT600 6 жыл бұрын
..oh, and don't forget; i'm sure someone else has mentioned it..Senna hired as Merc 190 and drove it around Monaco for a few days before this race, to get used to this car.
@Benjammin228
@Benjammin228 11 жыл бұрын
cool vid and nice history< thanks guys!
@FEASTJAPAN
@FEASTJAPAN 11 жыл бұрын
Great feature guys, really well put together.
@redforever91
@redforever91 11 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this, really liking this feature series
@DJzSith
@DJzSith 11 жыл бұрын
Liked, favorited and now I am going to search the web for an old 190e :D
@seoulman912
@seoulman912 11 жыл бұрын
Seeing this brings back so many memories of quasi-road battles I had with my friend in the early 90's. He (my friend) in his 190E 2.3-16 and me in my E30 M3. Last few months I've been looking for a low mileage E30 M3 to buy and if necessary restore so that it looks like new.
@Renaulticeman
@Renaulticeman 11 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@northern_lights9333
@northern_lights9333 10 жыл бұрын
If Jim Clark had been there!
@gweflj
@gweflj 9 жыл бұрын
He would have been half a minute up the road.
@rogbrown1458
@rogbrown1458 3 жыл бұрын
@@gweflj certainly would have been and not far behind in a lotus cortina.rog. Pacific sunset records.
@MrOnthemotorway
@MrOnthemotorway 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video! Ex 2.5 16 owner here - sadly missed. Have to say I was a bit surprised to read (and now hear) that you didn't know what the SLS fluid/system was! Engine aside - the SLS suspension is what 'makes' the 16V.
@rogbrown1458
@rogbrown1458 3 жыл бұрын
190e. Fabulous cars. I have four.ablue limited edition ablack one also a silver one originally supplied to Lehmann brothers and a white one. All 2 litre models. Rog. Pacific sunset records.
@RAFAEL-MARQUES
@RAFAEL-MARQUES Ай бұрын
Legendary Ayrton Senna
@SupercarsGT
@SupercarsGT 11 жыл бұрын
Simply amazing
@iwannabentley
@iwannabentley 3 жыл бұрын
Ive recently purchaed a 2.516v in smoke silver. Been dry stored for 23 years.. Soo tempted to make it into a evo2 spec.
@125zetecs
@125zetecs 11 жыл бұрын
Great vid and story lads
@Nando.44
@Nando.44 4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my dad's 190e sportline edition with the black and red leather interior.
@EDHBlvd
@EDHBlvd 9 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car.
@jonmiranda93
@jonmiranda93 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video.
@mpfourfour
@mpfourfour 11 жыл бұрын
fantastic episode
@miledplayer
@miledplayer 11 жыл бұрын
perfect episode
@ozstriker4075
@ozstriker4075 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent feature, more like this please rather than the numerous short sub 2 main vids
@nphana
@nphana 11 жыл бұрын
Great story.
@domin4tor1000
@domin4tor1000 11 жыл бұрын
AmazinG! Senna's a GOD!
@mz9393mz
@mz9393mz 11 жыл бұрын
LOL at 11:10 "...a German mechanic told me in no uncertain terms, making it clear I was an idiot..." :)
@fabioavenger7x
@fabioavenger7x 7 жыл бұрын
I love how they chuckle when the plates display: 2:25
@anthony6151
@anthony6151 11 жыл бұрын
Senna = Best Race car driver of all time.
@pedrolavrador992
@pedrolavrador992 10 жыл бұрын
Great History Magazine Evo !
@sergiomalta7398
@sergiomalta7398 11 жыл бұрын
Senna The Best!!!
@samperry6707
@samperry6707 11 жыл бұрын
This is like After/Drive on the Drive Channel, only much, much better
@Evo2inside
@Evo2inside 8 ай бұрын
Where did you find all of those pictures? What is this book?
@Terapeuta-Tomaz
@Terapeuta-Tomaz 6 ай бұрын
Senna The best!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷
@MarkyFormula1
@MarkyFormula1 11 жыл бұрын
Indeed. The gearing was altered to top out at 120mph.
@chillychan3548
@chillychan3548 11 жыл бұрын
Lovely color on the 2.5
@koukiR32
@koukiR32 11 жыл бұрын
LOL.... Fun fact is that I bought Autoart 1:18 Model of Senna's 190E 2.3-16. Great car and great racer....
@mi777ke777
@mi777ke777 11 жыл бұрын
Drive you had me at Senna
@Exige000
@Exige000 10 жыл бұрын
You mean to say that Mike is only 37 in this film- My goodness, time has not been kind to him!
@apmirkin1481
@apmirkin1481 8 жыл бұрын
I always wished Senna was expelled from F1. This corroborates my theory of stock car racing being more excitong than F1. this should of been a annual one off race for everyone in the same car each year. its fair, its competitive and exciting. once Senna drove this, no one else should have. rip Senna.
@franml
@franml 11 жыл бұрын
Well im pretty sure that Senna was the one that took hardest the death of Ratzenberger. But lets not compare none of that era to Senna, i bet anytime, any amount of money that if Senna lived for more like, 5,6 years he would be till today the most F1 world champion winner.
@Crankshaft1994
@Crankshaft1994 11 жыл бұрын
nick trott wat happend with the mclaran mp4-12c , were is the other part that u were supposed to do ?
@rodrigoalmeidadoo5823
@rodrigoalmeidadoo5823 11 жыл бұрын
Ayrton Senna, o melhor piloto de todos os tempos!!!!!! Brasil..
@hrgiyzueghe
@hrgiyzueghe 10 жыл бұрын
Red Mercedes!
@pedrofreitas2970
@pedrofreitas2970 7 жыл бұрын
o melhor senna do brasil
@badmintonlarkinboys3331
@badmintonlarkinboys3331 4 жыл бұрын
Alain Prost was on pole position. He was forced out by the typical aggressive style of senna driving during the race.
@Maciek9110
@Maciek9110 11 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference between a gear ratios in Senna's 190 and a roadgoing 2.3-16? Because the speedo shows max speeds on each gear. Top speed on 4th gear as shown on 9:20 is 155kph (just). In any other picture of 2.3-16 interior I found the speedo-indicated top speed in 4th is over 200kph. So maybe this car was far more from stock than just seats and rollcage?
@e36mmm
@e36mmm 11 жыл бұрын
AYRTON SENNA NO. 1
@jayomega29
@jayomega29 5 жыл бұрын
I purchased a 2.3 16 when I was 20 for 500 dollars I didn’t know what it was other than it was a stick shift Mercedes with rear bucket seats! It ran but was an electrical nightmare and in 2001 I didn’t have the money to take care of it I was offered 2500 bucks for it and I sold it thinking I was getting over on them! But they got over on me!! And now I can’t find another unless I sell my organs!!! I can say it was an awesome vehicle and one of the best driving cars I’ve ever driven!! Its history is unreal, and the car that made the m3 a necessity for bmw!!
@OneManOnFire
@OneManOnFire 11 жыл бұрын
Glad I own a 190E 2.3-16V
@andreshates
@andreshates 11 жыл бұрын
excellent
@eSysmanSuperYachts
@eSysmanSuperYachts 6 жыл бұрын
What happened to ECOTY???
@Commenter580
@Commenter580 10 жыл бұрын
the first english speaking person on this planet to pronounce "Stuttgart" correctly xD
@OpticalHaze
@OpticalHaze 10 жыл бұрын
I think the race can be watched on a dvd that you can buy on shop.motorsport-dvd.de but I'm not sure if its the whole race.... dvd goes 70min
@lyners25ify
@lyners25ify 11 жыл бұрын
Who owns the 190E now???? heard it was auctioned recently but can't remember who bought it???
@mpainter22
@mpainter22 11 жыл бұрын
I really do wish people would stop fawning over Ayrton Senna, yes he was a fantastic driver, but he was one of a number of fantastic racing drivers from that era, let's not forget that another driver died that weekend, he also was fantastic as touring car fans from the eighties can a test, and that was Roland ratzenberger
@leicaman100
@leicaman100 3 жыл бұрын
2.3 even tho it showed less power on paper than the 2.5, was a slightly quicker car through the gears. Both very special cars tho ... I was lucky to own both during late 80's early 90's
@BrianCarolan51
@BrianCarolan51 11 жыл бұрын
Dammit...... Scouring the classifieds....... Again! With a W124 convertible on the drive already, this piece (mag and video) is going to really hurt my wallet! Damn you EVO and your bloody brilliant magazine!
@RemyRaju
@RemyRaju 11 жыл бұрын
Not really, watch the '84 Monaco Grand Prix. Car = Toleman TG184
@MercSLRFan
@MercSLRFan 11 жыл бұрын
The light was going down...never heard that one before. Oh wait, it's a trademark of the british journalist.
@michaelbyef1
@michaelbyef1 11 жыл бұрын
I think there still the best looking Mercedes @Resnorth. Personally I prefer them to the BMW
@Foxbat1155
@Foxbat1155 2 жыл бұрын
edit this and remove the commentary and the nobodies presenting it, just show us the engine and the specs
@felipe96150
@felipe96150 9 ай бұрын
He never heard of the Procar series?!
@hoplite46
@hoplite46 11 жыл бұрын
it wasnt the car it was the driver
@846524162
@846524162 11 жыл бұрын
It's called being alpha male, marking his territory and taking as much space as he can. It is working, he is the man!
@Charleswnew
@Charleswnew 11 жыл бұрын
2 questions: Is that Olly Murs older brother on the left? How big are Mike Duff's conkers that he has to sit with this legs that far apart?
@BobElHat
@BobElHat 11 жыл бұрын
Erm, the last Race of Champions had Vettel, Grosjean, Schumacher and Coulthard competing.
@PushToStart
@PushToStart 4 жыл бұрын
Evo & anyone who watches this video: I've searched numerous threads, watched countless videos and no where, I LITERALLY MEAN "NO WHERE" does anyone give the time that Prost, Lauda or Senna set .. Could someone please (if possible) provide the time they set. T.I.A
@revolutionday1
@revolutionday1 11 жыл бұрын
This clip should be "2 boring blokes shooting the breeze for nearly 15 minutes that you will never get back (you thought you were going to see a car??)"
@yelp1000
@yelp1000 11 жыл бұрын
To my eyes the old 190e 2.3 16 looks far better than the new cla or practically the whole new mercedes lineup. I really wish Mercedes would bring back that angular Bauhaus minimalism.
@mattfry3851
@mattfry3851 9 жыл бұрын
I think this guy Mark is the most English guy in existence. Great story. But he needs to look at this body language.
@OldFanBenz
@OldFanBenz 10 жыл бұрын
You have more sensation at 120 km/h in a w201 than 180km/h in a w211 or E90 :) I never put winter tyres in 15 years in my w201... Alot more problems on snow, in my POS w211 16" winter tyres & the whole electronic sh*t... Wasnt beter into the E90 of one of my friend...
@Vandal42
@Vandal42 11 жыл бұрын
looks Great in black by todays standards
@kurtrusellpatrickswayze
@kurtrusellpatrickswayze 11 жыл бұрын
Word.
@crozi1971
@crozi1971 11 жыл бұрын
The biggest regret of my life...I had a black one back in 1995 for 2 years and loved it dearly.I traded it in for a brand new Saab 93 aero.Mistake. Great memories though and would love to try and buy another.
@thatonenigeriansformula
@thatonenigeriansformula 2 жыл бұрын
You traded a 2 year olderc for a saab!!!!
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