Sennheiser HD 650 Headphones Review - Best value For Money?
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3 жыл бұрынIn this video I'll be doing a quick unboxing and review of the Sennheiser HD650 open-back headphones. I'll cover both the pros and the cons, and focus on how they work for both listeners and producers.
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00:14 - Unboxing
01:52 - Build quality & technical data
02:42 - Comfort
03:30 - Sound quality
06:33 - Conclusion
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@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
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@julionietochannel 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance of that NDH20 review coming soon, sir???🙏🏼😀
@demetriusxiv8326 2 жыл бұрын
This guy almost sounds like the narrator for "how it's made"
@kyyuhl 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same the whole time I was watching this!
@lIlIIllIIllIlIIIIl 2 жыл бұрын
SFinnaly a good review that talks about mixing and matering with theese, great work man!
@FireWalkMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you liked it 🙂
@theduck7309 3 жыл бұрын
The Sennheiser HD 650 is my favorite headphone for mixing and mastering, being able to pick out every detail in sound without the need to have ear fatiguing peaks in the frequency is fantastic, the only drawback is that they need a good headphone amplifier, driving them direct from my Scarlett interface results in a surprisingly dark and muddy sound.
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
They are very good indeed
@michaelanisimov7896 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, do you have a gen 3 or gen 2 interface? What model? I have a 2i2 gen 3 and am about to buy myself these phones and am not sure if i need an amp with them. Thanks!
@theduck7309 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelanisimov7896 At the time i was using a Solo 2 Gen and it does not have a dedicated headphone circuit, it is just the line output routed to the front… I have the Clarett+2Pre now and it can drive them with full quality, so i think the Scarlett 2i2 should be fine.
@waves7300 2 жыл бұрын
That’s because a 2i2 can only power up to 200 ohms. These headphones are 300 ohms get a clarette
@waves7300 Жыл бұрын
In all honesty I own the clarett+ and the converters on this thing are so clear
@87channels 2 жыл бұрын
Best review! Thank you!
@FireWalkMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you're welcome:)
@japolloproductions1 3 жыл бұрын
Great Review Firewalk. I bought these a year ago and are the best sounding headphones I've owned. If you have the money invest in these, you will not regret it!
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you liked it. :) Indeed, they are definitely among the best ones you can get in this price range.
@honeydippedmedia 3 жыл бұрын
I’m new to audio, will plugging these into my onkyo receiver for TV and music be adequate for amplifying the signal or do I need to buy a separate amplifier?
@spiritvoys 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx a lott for your help and your edvice it feel very helpfull,just want to send my greeitings to you from Stockholm - Sweden !
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@windmill10 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice review. What is that GoGear thing you plugged your headphone into? And which amp would you suggest between a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 headphone out and a HD600?
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
It's just an old mp3 player. I needed something to plug it into for the purpose of this video. :) Regarding an amp, it depends on your budget. I've listed a basic one in the video description, but people have different needs and preferences.
@thomasfroland762 3 жыл бұрын
Great review!! :)
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@killaysus 5 ай бұрын
Will a Scarlett focusrite 2i2 support these bad boys?
@woomish7 3 жыл бұрын
I got Komplete Audio 6 audio interface, is it enough to open up the potential of these headphones? or i need more powerfull card or amp for them ?
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I recommend an amp in order to get the most out of them. That said, I know plenty of people who use these with standard USB audio interfaces without any complaints. The HD 650 are 300 OHM. Most USB audio interfaces recommend 200 - 250 OHM as the upper limit.
@ignite137 3 жыл бұрын
I got them for 1,5 years now (XX Drop edition) Combined with sonarworks Reference system, they sound amazing! Even without a preamp (haven;t had one yet) they sound clear and precise! I know that Maarten Vorwerk (ghostproducer) uses them to check his mixes!
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
They are indeed very good. I believe 200-250 OHM is the maximum recommendation for most USB powered audio interfaces. That said, 300 OHM will still work just fine in most cases. You'll lose a little bit of volume, but it shouldn't be a problem. You should never crank up the volume that much anyways. :) I know many professionals who use the HD 650 for mixing and producing. Funny that you mention sonarworks reference, I actually have a copy laying on my desk right now. I'm planning on making a video about it real soon. Should be very helpful for people with a typical "bedroom studio" which acoustically is usually less than ideal for mixing. :)
@FernandoCastillo-og7ze 3 жыл бұрын
Which headphones do you consider as "references" for mixing and mastering? I have the Sennheiser 58X Jubilee from Massdrop, and this is almost flat according to many audiofiles and people that measured this headphone. Applying an equalization from sonarworks the sound is definitely flat but there is not much difference between equalization and stock sound.
@Jason75913 3 жыл бұрын
then you are good to go alternatively, look at K702 if you decide to try something new, needs very little EQ'ing for flat, reference sound; sound design schools in the US swear by this headphone or the "toilet bowl white" K701 version; many call it like placing your music/mixes under a microscope, the Sennehisers are not as analytical save for HD800
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
With the sonarworks reference you can usually compensate for just about any headphones, as long as they have decent quality, so it shouldn't be much of an issue for you. :)
@pman93aqw 3 жыл бұрын
Do these work well with the schiit stack (magni heresy/modi 3+)
@samhice600 3 жыл бұрын
yes. and effectively
@Bucking_Fastard 3 жыл бұрын
Had my eye on these for a while. I think I will wait for Black Friday though, just to see if I could get a nice deal on those.
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
They are definitely among the best ones you can get in this price range.
@patrickwwallace89 3 жыл бұрын
Did you find a deal?
@Bucking_Fastard 3 жыл бұрын
Akadius Ventura No! :(
@ashleymarks3726 2 жыл бұрын
I heard about these headphones because of Charlie Puth. He said in an interview that these were his favorites ones to use and that he basically used them every time when mixing his songs. Thank you for a great review.
@TheAceBase 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite headphones, i had the 6xx before but sold them and got these. The quality is nicer
@johnnyanko6051 3 жыл бұрын
I already have these, but I'm still watching this video :D
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@smaid7825 3 жыл бұрын
Should i buy it or buy a pair of speakers?
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@smaid7825 Hi, that depends. Generally, I recommend using monitors for mixing. However, if you prefer headphones, and you want something that's good for both listening to music and mixing, then these are the best ones you can get for this price. Check out my video about headphones vs monitors here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n8ynlcKisLeymIk.html
@jslg7641 3 жыл бұрын
hey guys I produce deep house do I need an amp like a JDS Atom for my HD 650 to go with my audio interface which is an Audient ID 14? will it make a difference or not a difference at all in terms of bass and sub bass clarity?
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
In my experience they will work just fine with most audio interfaces. You'll get slightly less maximum volume, but in my opinion you should never listen at such volumes in the first place, so it will usually work out quite well. If you need an amp then they're not too expensive, and can easily be placed in between the headphones and the audio interface itself.
@user-jw2ko7hw5q Жыл бұрын
i want to buy these pair to listen to songs in my phone and laptop. However you mentioned that i need an amplifier. Is it really necessary? will the quality worsen without amplifier?
@FireWalkMusic Жыл бұрын
No the quality won't change. You just won't be able to turn up the volume as much. But then again, one should never listen to music too loud using headphones anyways..
@xXxBo5sANaCxXx 2 жыл бұрын
Whats up with that package they came in? They should come in a premium solid box...
@themukul1908 3 жыл бұрын
Plzz make video on panning and stereo imaging instruments
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'll put it on my list 🙂
@nicholastart9247 Жыл бұрын
you sound strikingly like the narrator from How it's Made
@negvey 3 жыл бұрын
my only question is if I buy FX-Audio DAC-X6 Mini HiFi 2.0 will it give me problems with my mic INSIDE FL studio, MY MIC IS USB and when I want fl studio to detect my mic it will not give me the correct mic input?? The FX-Audio DAC-X6 Mini has no mic input channel.
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
It won't affect your microphone or your sound card in any way. It''s just a headphone amplifier, so you hook it up between the headphones and the audio interface / sound card. It can be a bit tricky setting up USB microphones in general. I usually recommend using a standard XLR microphone and hooking it up to the audio interface directly.
@negvey 3 жыл бұрын
@@FireWalkMusic the fx audio dac x6 came in broken with a lot of hissing distortion noise with my Hd 650 :( but thanks a lot for answering my question I appreciate it
@madruga2112 2 жыл бұрын
Would a Macbook Air M1 be enough to power those or will I need to get an amp also?
@ProtomanBlues 2 жыл бұрын
You need an amp
@proffranco4229 Жыл бұрын
Amp
@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 5 ай бұрын
No, actually I just got an M1, and guess what? The audio-out is specially amplified, and will act as a headphone preamp. It will not sound as good as a dedicated preamp, but it’s reassuring to know that you can still plug in and get a decent reference headphone. The MacBook Pro ‘M1’s will power a lesser-sensitive 15 to 20 ohms resistance) than the 30 ohms required for the Sennheisers.
@The90sGamingGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Im an audiophile on a budget and almost ordered these a year ago but backed out due to price. Ordered these headphones a few days ago and can't wait to listen music with them. Great review!
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! I'm sure you'll be very happy with these! :)
@kbeau937 3 жыл бұрын
ITS like youre the microphone they are singing to. my favorite
@davidponce6132 Жыл бұрын
@@kbeau937 But do you need an amp for that?
@kbeau937 Жыл бұрын
@@davidponce6132 yes
@joecantdance494 3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain about needing an amp? I'm not really up to speed on why you need this
@foxypotato3094 3 жыл бұрын
the headphones have high Ohm impedance it basically means they have to draw a lot more power to sound louder(over simplification) so if i were to plug in a pair with 30 ohm impedance into my phone at full volume they would be rather loud, if i plugged in headphones with an impedance of 250 Ohms they would sound rather quiet, the amp supplies more power to the headphones so they can sound louder(over simplification) if you want headphones that dont really need an amp id recommend the Philips Audio Fidelio X2HR, or dt 770 (lowest Ohm version)
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
As Foxy said, it's about the resistance in the headphones themselves. Most USB powered audio interfaces support up to 200-250 Ohm headphones. These are 300. They are just a little bit over the recommendation so it will usually still work well from what I've heard, but generally you want more power to be able to fully control headphones with higher impedance. Quality headphones often have high impedance. There's a link to a cheap amp in the video description, that can be used in conjunction with any sound card or audio interface.
@joecantdance494 3 жыл бұрын
@@FireWalkMusic Great stuff, thanks
@duvidl 2 жыл бұрын
Which AKG is your reference headphone?
@FireWalkMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm using the AKG K612 Pro
@manjuprakash738 Жыл бұрын
Can we connect it with mobile through usb to 3.5mm Jack or to a laptop
@FireWalkMusic Жыл бұрын
Yes, but optimally I recommend using an amp to get the most out of them.
@manjuprakash738 Жыл бұрын
@@FireWalkMusic thanks for valuable reply
@SuperWickedgame 2 жыл бұрын
as you said the hd 650 doesn't have a sense of openness in the treble because in the hd650 the treble sounds quieter. think about it though so that you have a speaker whose treble sounds quieter than midrange and bass. Guess where its treble energy is directed? the answer is around 200hz. Personally, I would prefer headphones where all frequencies stand out, and there would be no way for treble to sound quieter.
@feshavocado4084 3 жыл бұрын
I have 600$ do you have any recomend for an amp?
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
There's a link to a decent one in the video description :)
@eclectiqueuniverse3715 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, is it confortable with glasses please? Thanks
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, unfortunately I can't say, I don't wear glasses myself so I forgot to test that.
@nic0a4 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are confortable
@kevintran9321 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome :)
@ozymandias7940 Жыл бұрын
Being 300ohm these things need a LOT of power to do them justice. Personally, I drive them with a Burson Conductor III headphone amp & it brings out the very, very best of these cans. Some people say that they are a bit light on bass. Well, plug them into your cell phone or laptop and yes, they will be, they're 300ohm headphones! A decent headphone amp like the Burson I have belts out 7.5 watts @ 16ohm or .58w at 300ohm which is enough to implode your head at 50% volume. If you have the HD650's or are thinking of buying a pair, do yourself a favor and invest in a decent headphone amp. You don't have to spend an idiotic amount of money on a Burson like I did, there are plenty out there.
@elliotandersson8302 3 жыл бұрын
I need a pair of headphones which I can use for watching KZfaq and listening to music on my phone, but also for gaming. Do you recommend these headphones for that? Also do you need an amplifier ? My budget is only 350-370 dollars so I don't really have enough for a amplifier too!
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, these will be ideal for both music listening and gaming, since they provide a lot of detail. However, they do need proper amplification since they are relatively high impedance headphones. You can of course use these with a phone, but you won't be able to get the most out of them. For the best listening experience, I recommend an amp. There are many cheap ones available that get the job done nicely.
@elliotandersson8302 3 жыл бұрын
@@FireWalkMusic Well an amp is out of my budget if I'm gonna go for these sadly(: However I can get a cheaper pair like the d990t pro and then I will have enough for an amp to. What is better these hd 650 by its own or the d990t pro with an amplifier?
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@elliotandersson8302 In my opinion, for an audiophile there's really no better choice than the HD650 in this price range. I would perhaps consider just getting the 650 first and then save up for an amp. You can use them without an amp, the only thing is that you won't be able to play as loud as you otherwise would. You can get a decent amp for under $50 However, the d990t is not bad either, so if you need something right now then they should work fine too. :)
@elliotandersson8302 3 жыл бұрын
@@FireWalkMusic Oh you can get an amp for under 50!? I thought it was atleast 100 bucks. In this case I will deffinetly go for the hd650s! What amp do you recommend for under 50 btw? Does it need to be anything specific? Thx so much for your opinion and info:)
@gbarrows04 3 жыл бұрын
@@elliotandersson8302 I recommend the fiio btr5 (used). It's a good quality product, very powerful, you get Bluetooth, and it's about the size of a flash drive, so it's ultraportable.
@jamalcole1985 3 жыл бұрын
Shure1440 are great open back headphones
@missingno4191 3 жыл бұрын
I recommend reviewing the Audio-Technica ATH-M50. I used them for years for producing electronic music for a clear low end.
@HogShark 3 жыл бұрын
I have the ath-m50 and hd 600, the 600 is better
@FernandoCastillo-og7ze 3 жыл бұрын
@@HogShark Is there too much difference among them?
@h.hristov 3 жыл бұрын
Can you get the HD600 too and make a comparison?
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I'll see what I can do 🙂
@foxypotato3094 3 жыл бұрын
@@FireWalkMusic can you check out the Philips Audio Fidelio X2HR's?
@Sandbull22 3 жыл бұрын
Or just get the hd6xx from drop.com for 220. Same thing just rebranded.
@music_creator_capable 3 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@DSShmelev 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!!!!
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked the video :)
@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 5 ай бұрын
Buy the way, the Sennheiser HD 600’s are very similar to the HD650s (and even a bit cheaper). In fact, they are almost exactly the same. Difference is: If you play a lot with stereo, go for the HD 650’s, but for general mixing, the narrower stereo imaging of the HD 600s works better. Though you can’t really go wrong with either. This has been a public message from The Acoustic Rabbit Hole
@Jason75913 3 жыл бұрын
HD650 rules for enjoying music since it was introduced long ago. I don't feel that that the midbass is all that tight, but coming from an HD449, of course it is a substantial step up. HD650 only gets better with a headphone amplifier with +/-15V internal PSU rails, as opposed to your average amp or interface with +/-4.8V or +/-9V. The downside of that is that such amps are typically expensive, like audio-gd amps. Only cheap option I'm familiar with is the Monoprice Liquid Spark amp. Running the HD650 out of a low-voltage amp muddies the bass and transients, in my experience. Part of what makes HD650 feather-light on the head is its tight, but comfortable, grip so the headphone weight isn't completely on the top of your head. Bonus points if you compare that Neumann NDH20 to the Sennheiser HD630VB that it seems to be based on. ;)
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the HD650's. As Said in the video, there's some slight amplification in the low end, but it's not a huge problem. When using Sonarworks Reference 4, it compensated for it nicely and now they are just as flat as my AKG's. :) A great way to switch between mixing and listening.
@333_Tarot Жыл бұрын
Bro will the yamaha ag06 interface really suck with hd650?
@Jason75913 Жыл бұрын
@@333_Tarot get a Tascam or M-audio interface, much better recording quality over the Yamahas or over-hyped Scarletts, or a Presonus Studio24C interface.
@kevinreetz 3 жыл бұрын
What is the best audiophile headphones in your opinion with good base? Price is irrelevant.
@ric84 2 жыл бұрын
Sennheiser orpheus 2. Buy 2 so you have a spare one.
@MrEmotional33 Жыл бұрын
@@ric84 haha, just for 100K in cash..
@iikatinggangsengii2471 7 ай бұрын
obviously
@WellAnimated 3 жыл бұрын
1:35 Acting 100% 👌
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@DJaquithFL 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm okie dokie .. I look at these headphones as a gaming headset once you add a stick-on mic and plug them in a GSX 1000 DAC. I'm a B&W reference speaker / Sennheiser HD 800S .. kinda guy.
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
No problem using these for gaming if you just want good audio quality in general. That said, there are dedicated gaming headsets available with software bundles that can make gaming richer. For example by making it easier to hear footsteps etc. :)
@DJaquithFL 3 жыл бұрын
@@FireWalkMusic .. Umm you'd think but you can't make a "silk purse out of a cow's ear" junk is junk. Heck I bought a $320 Astro A50 (their top of the line headset) and it was so bad I gave it to my kid...
@mattmays9063 Жыл бұрын
You wouldn't happen to be the voice of voiceover guy from 'How It's Made' would you?
@FireWalkMusic Жыл бұрын
No :) But I get that a lot.. :D
@synthonaplinth5980 3 жыл бұрын
I'm running these through a Yamaha amp after a Lavaudio DAC. To say that they sound fantastic would be an understatement. They make WEAK recordings sound good!
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
They are indeed very good sounding headphones!
@jwyzebeatz 2 жыл бұрын
1:29 Yep 😂😂😂
@FireWalkMusic 2 жыл бұрын
🙈😹
@TheIgnoramus Жыл бұрын
Paired with with software to make them flat, they are great for everything.
@Suchitttt 3 жыл бұрын
Good
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@user-yo1cv2me5l 3 жыл бұрын
Beyerdynamics dt150 and avantone pro mp1 are the best headphones IMO
@RumandCocaine 2 жыл бұрын
so i bought them and they are so quiet, you i cant increase volume even with focusrite, i have everything maxed out and it sounds like a wet fart
@FireWalkMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a USB powered audio interface? You might need an external Amp. USB powered audio interfaces can't deliver much power.
@sekretFL 3 жыл бұрын
Наушники хорошие. Но и стоят прилично. Лично слушал в студии, понравились. Но надо учитывать, что это наушники открытого типа.
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Open headphones are generally better suited for listening and mixing as well. However, they might not be ideal if you're not alone while listening, since sound will spill out.
@ClassicKrusty 3 жыл бұрын
U need an audio amp to really enjoy these, don’t u?
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Most USB audio interfaces supports up to 200 / 250 ohm. They're liimited by the power they can draw from the USB port. USB C interfaces generally get slightly more power. I know many people who use these with no problem, but in order to get the most out of them I would recommend an amp. You can get good amps for cheap on amazon. Alternatively, use an audio interface with external power supply.
@solderbuddy 3 жыл бұрын
yep you need a strong one, i own hd650 and i use it with the Little Dok mk III tube amp
@libEluLLah 3 жыл бұрын
idk wtf everyone is talking about I can't stand any other signature than flat or flat with bass boost
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Check out Sonarworks Reference 4 :)
@libEluLLah 3 жыл бұрын
@@FireWalkMusic I eq my headphones manually because it is extremely expensive for the currency in my country and I don't think sonarworks works on android as well
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@libEluLLah No it won't work on a phone. If you know the exact cureves then you can compensate with EQ, sure :)
@libEluLLah 3 жыл бұрын
@@FireWalkMusic shoutout to rtings.com for accurately measuring the frequency response for so many headphones
@MrOlyevo 3 жыл бұрын
The HD 650 does not ship in that box. I got a bigger one with black foam inside. For people that wants to buy the HD 650, just buy the HD 6XX from massdrop, same headphones for much less money.
@nitroxylictv Жыл бұрын
All I have are 2 sennheiser urbanite xl's and some airpods lol. Real audio equipment is expensive.
@JM99-Official 2 жыл бұрын
Huh duh six fith tees
@hatesounds702 3 жыл бұрын
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it :)
@rockerzattack 3 жыл бұрын
$400 dollars oh man Indian price $817 seriously value for money in India we can buy good laptop with that much money or pair of studio monitor (better one) with Acoustic treatment $817 dollars man brand new bike
@scifu7e91 3 жыл бұрын
In a magazine has the headphones 'AKG K 702' a good place in a list for the price, maybe look and test it. Good luck + nice days and have Fun (to make music) 🎶🍹👋🙂
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
You should get the essentials first, before starting tho think about quality headphones, monitors etc. :)
@omarnicasio1 3 жыл бұрын
🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️im gone
@funkerfogt1869 3 жыл бұрын
Really good model but NOT for producing EDM music, like psytrance or progressive trance for example. Or any other EDM styles where sub bass is very important. If you need control sub bass or if like listen sub bass - DO NOT buy Sennheiser HD 650
@ALifeTheKidd 3 жыл бұрын
what would you recommend ?
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of amp did you use with these? Did you hook them up directly to the audio interface, that could cause the low-end to sound a bit weak. These are fairly flat, and I think that while others might have more low-end in general, which can make listening to bass-heavy music more enjoyable, having a flat representation is generally better for mixing. To humans louder always sounds better, so when you have more bass it usually sounds better too. That doesn't necessarily means that it's better for mixing. It could cause your mix to sound weak on other systems, because you think there's more than enough bass, while you mix, when in reality there's not. It's part of the reason why I generally recommend dedicated reference headphones for mixing. Reference headphones are as flat as possible. They will generally sound quite flat and boring, especially in the low-end, and that's not very exiting to listen to. However, it's good for mixing, and I believe this is part of the reason why the HD650 are embraced by so many producers as well, because they are quite flat, while still being enjoyable to listen to as well, so they can be used for both. :)
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@ALifeTheKidd The HD650 are great if you need good all-round headphones that are good for both listening to music and mixing. However, if you want dedicated reference headphones for mixing then the AKG 612 PRO are really good ( amzn.to/33gYMsw ) If you need closed headphones then the Neumann NDH20 is also really good. ( amzn.to/2F4A0C0 )
@funkerfogt1869 3 жыл бұрын
@@ALifeTheKidd For what? For Listeting, mixing, monitoring?
@funkerfogt1869 3 жыл бұрын
@@FireWalkMusic HD 650 is really good model with very flat frequency response curve, but not for control sub-bass during mixing process. The point of -3 dB of HD650 starts with 90 Hz approximately, -6 dB about 60 Hz, so the MOST important frequency range where the kick drum usually works (50-60 Hz) represented very bad. And sub-bass (less than 30 Hz) even worse. For example, HD 280 works MUCH better with sub bass. I use Motu M2 audio interface
@Tripokaridos22 3 жыл бұрын
HD660s are way better on clarity , tightness , faster, imaging without veil with only 80 euros more... They only lost on smoothness compared to HD650
@louislu1067 3 жыл бұрын
Hd660 is $399 whereas hd 650 is $200 on massdrop. Yes, 660s are tighter compared to 650, but the improvements from 650 to 660 is not worth extra $200.
@FireWalkMusic 3 жыл бұрын
You usually get what you pay for. The 660 is definitely a step up from the 650, no doubt about that. But then you could argue that if you just pay a bit more, then you can get something that's even better than the 660 as well. :)
@Tripokaridos22 3 жыл бұрын
@@FireWalkMusic Thats a great reply can u tell me what headphone is a step up from HD650 and HD660 ? Because the only ones that i listen and was step up was the Focal Clear that cost 1.400 euro. And Maybe the Drop Focal Elex that cost more than 800 euro with vats and taxes to come in Europe. I would think about Hifiman products but quality problems are very true i change 2 times under warranty my Sundara so i am very sceptical about Hifimam again. Maybe Audeze but some people say its a side grade not step up on everything.
@Tripokaridos22 3 жыл бұрын
@@louislu1067 I understand that but The World its not just US of America u know. Its Europe Canada Africa etch etch and I am from Europe ...i Bought HD58x and 6XX so my 6XX cost 220 plus 20 plus 40 taxes plus 20 vats So 300 euro in the end and waited for them 3 months . HD650 cost 330 HD600 300 and HD660s cost 380 In Europe so yeah HD660 worth that extra 50 euros . And all that for the new versions... The Drop HD6XX that they send me was the OLD stock ones with R L marks outside the Headband and not the new ones like Thoman .de . Anyways for 200 IN US ofcorse its way better value the HD6xx but in the rest of the world nope its not. And not forget about warranty ... I contact drop they told me free warranty and was very polite but i have to wait another 3 months and pay the Vats inport again. So doesnt worth it .
@garyoshea2171 Жыл бұрын
Had mine donkeys years 😊
@Rockapotamus91 3 ай бұрын
It’s a bit late to be watching a review now then 😂
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