The fact he spent over 7 minutes talking about non sound related things on two units that are identical in build and comfort is beyond me.
@Mauntium2 жыл бұрын
I quickly glanced over the comments when I was at 2 mins and there was still no info on the sound, to see if maybe someone posted a timestamp to where the video really begins, and saw none. Why? Because youtube decided to put this comment at the bottom of the comment section, despite having the highest amount of upvotes. Well done, youtube. (ps: have my upvote too)
@brianliu5222 жыл бұрын
I have been using iFi Zen DAC v1. balanced connection with HD660s and I love the experience. Very smooth, natural and realistic sound with a touch of warmth. With 150 ohm impedance I never need to turn the volume above 11 o’clock. They are not heavy, I can listen for a few hours without feeling fatigue. I mainly listen to classical music which I think HD660s is excellent for this genre. No matter it’s Chopin’s nocturne (solo piano) or Schubert’s string quartets or symphonies from Beethoven and Mahler involving 100 + pieces of instruments of varied tones and textures, the HD660s reproduces them with ease and accuracy. The HD660S makes me feel I am sitting right in the best seat of the concert hall
@pietossing4 жыл бұрын
The 660S are great, and have replaced my 600. I hated the 650, the bass was loose and pissed on everything. The 660S strikes a perfect balance between the 600 and 650. It's just plain wonderful. Played on THX 789 and Qutest.
@demon-ll9eg3 жыл бұрын
which one is better to hear spoken words not songs ?
@juanmillaruelo76473 жыл бұрын
Conventional wisdom says 600, but listen for yourself.
@juanmillaruelo76473 жыл бұрын
The bass in the 600 is a bit too elevated (spoken as the true owner of a 650). Amazing how we become attuned to our headphones. :-) LOL!
@juanmillaruelo76473 жыл бұрын
Some people say 660s are cr*p. Others wax lyrical about them. I could live happily with either of the three. But listen carefully for what sounds best to you. Either way you won't go wrong.
@demon-ll9eg3 жыл бұрын
@@juanmillaruelo7647 thank you so much for reply i ordered the hd650 because im treble senstive
@massivemikeh5 жыл бұрын
You do excellent reviews bro...right up there with other popular KZfaqrs! Cheers.
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
Means a lot, thanks!
@sonicthehedgehog9892 жыл бұрын
Hmmm interesting. I prefer the hd660s to the rest of the hd600 line by some margin. To me on my gear the hd660s is more detailed and faster than the others. It has fluid natural timbre that is addictive. The others were great too but the hd660s was to me a big improvement, in nearly every category. I'm still keeping my hd600 line of headphones for nostalgia, but clearly the hd660s is like 3 steps ahead of the rest.
@ashish20992 ай бұрын
I think it has more to do with how we place the 660s over the head to find that sweet spot. At first I absolutely hated the 660s, but I realized "okay maybe lets try decreasing the neckband notch/ strech" It made a more compact seal and bam, that sealed the deal for me.
@crisevens72384 жыл бұрын
HD 600 released in new version ! It would be very helpful to know if there are any changes in the build quality but mainly to the audio behavior of the new version compared to the older one. Thank you !!!
@chuckolatte6004 жыл бұрын
That would DEFINITELY be interesting...
@mikecoshan37524 жыл бұрын
chuckolatte I have tried the hd600 (blue marble effect one) & the new HD600 the all grey one which I’m currently sending back as the left had cable had frayed in less than a day. The older Blue marble effect ones have slightly more openness & vocals and instruments fractionally more detailed. The 660s has better midrange than the HD600 with piano sounding so engaging & superbly detailed. If I could get the HD660S for the same price as the HD600 what do you think I should buy ?
@chuckolatte6004 жыл бұрын
@@mikecoshan3752 Yeah I'd still prefer the HD600. Even if the piano may sound more natural and detailed on the 660s, I still dislike its timbre and feel like its darkness just eliminates detail altogether.
@ioan_jivan4 жыл бұрын
The part with the vocals was so well explained. Exactly what I was looking for.
@chuckolatte6004 жыл бұрын
glad I could help :)
@maxhigh32345 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review. You are the first one to dislike the 660S, that I have seen, out of about five reviewers. I am considering the 660S as my first introduction into the high resolution world.
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong, they're still audiophile. I just think there are WAY better options to get at this price point and lower price points as well. Tyll from InnerFidelity also disliked these BTW, he almost started crying in his review because of the disappointment if I remember correctly.
@maxhigh32345 жыл бұрын
@@chuckolatte600 it is very helpful to me and others like me that are considering purchasing these high-priced headphones, to get an honest review from somebody that knows what they're talking about.
@ahmedsafa914 жыл бұрын
I saw an arabic reviewer didnt like them and prefered his 650s sound over 660s
@juanmillaruelo76473 жыл бұрын
Listen for yourself, then decide. 5 out of 6 ain't bad, so they can't be garbage. Give the three of them a try. I love my 650's, (and also like the 600 and 660s). We are like kids in a candy store. :-) P.S. (Tyll must have been having a bad day) Seriously: this is very personal subjective stuff.
@danielfisch3892 жыл бұрын
@@juanmillaruelo7647 just watched Tyll‘s last video ever. Shortly after the 660s review, he decided (at age 62) to retire cos he admitted his hearing (especially for the highs) wasn‘t good enough anymore to review headphones. Being 55, I can understand him. I love the 650 too but I have to EQ the highs way more than a few years ago. Now thinking about adding either the 600 or 660 to my audio park.
@markharwood75734 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. This kind of subjective review is genuinely helpful. In this case, when I upgrade from my 600s it will not be to the 660S.
@bratosin14 жыл бұрын
660s miles better dont trust this guy
@gregvandy89024 жыл бұрын
Also the 660s/58x sounds brighter, cleaner, more resolving than the 600, 650, 6xx. The 6xx scales better than all the others but you can get better sound from 660s, 58x with a lesser amp. All still require a decent amp to sound the best. I liked your review, i just have slightly different view on the sound, i agree on some points. I also am using different amps/dacs. Nice review!
@fuzzybaffy4 жыл бұрын
The way he's describing these two headphones, I get the feeling he just didn't do volume matching to compensate for the different impedances, lol. He describes everything on the 660s as being "lower", which doesn't make any sense given all the other reviews and FR graphs out there.
@Randomizer92mx4 жыл бұрын
The way he describes it sounds like 660s are the crappiest out of the bunch but for some reason costs the most out of them. And I noticed that with a lot of 600 owners just plain disliking the 660s for some reason. They really should be more objective when reviewing these headphones and not just hating them just cause they don't sound like their beloved 600. Shouldn't there be more variety instead of Sennheiser just selling 600 headphones?
@chuckolatte6004 жыл бұрын
I did adjust the sound levels. I try to be as objective as possible and I simply did not find the HD660s to be better.
@juanmillaruelo76473 жыл бұрын
Listen for yourself. Different people tell different stories. 600 are "baseline neutral" , no doubt about that. They make mids (such as voices) stand out. But some people feel they are too warm. Not really, IMO. Some people think the 650 are too bright (I don't think so at all) and the 660s even brighter. You must listen and decide for yourself, this is so subjective. People adapt to different sounds and judge others using their accustomed audio. Some people think 650 makes voice recessed. Others don't. If everything requires an A/B test this tells you how close they are. However if you want the defacto benchmark for neutrality I would go for 600. If I wanted more snap and sparkle, I would go 660s. My sweet spot is 650. Yours may not be, so check beforehand. We are truly spoiled for choice. ;-)
@6643bear3 ай бұрын
Hi , that’s very interesting comments you made, I have been looking at the 660s2 but I am hoping that a reviewer do a 6xx/ 650 with custom cans bass mod v the 660s2 to see if they are similar, I recommend getting customs cans mod to your 650 as does improve the bass at bottom end, I also have have 560 , old 575 as well, I tend to use my 660s straight on my ifi zen v2 dac with true bass button selected and does come alive my 6xx then 660s both of them has thicker ear pads , then my 560, on my rotel a11 cd11 t11 set up and use my 575 on my old Cambridge audio sonata system . I do like the sundaes too , regards mark
@Atistatic3 жыл бұрын
Ohms are not exactly the term the power you need. You might have AKG K701 that has 50 ohm, but you need a amp that deliver 1 or 2 watts power to drive it well.
@massivemikeh5 жыл бұрын
What? No banana boxes?? Imposter! Lol
@6643bear3 ай бұрын
Great informative points yoy made , I fitted custom cans bass mod, I do recommend the mod as do improve the bass at bottom end, am hoping someone do a review hd650/6xx with bass mod against the 660s2 to see if they are similar, that why I haven’t bought the s2 as yet , I also have Hd 560 and old hd575, I use 575 on my other old Cambridge audio sonata system , by the way I also fitted thicker pads in my 6xx and 660s, it’s also interesting that my old 575 has thicker pads from new . At the moment it’s 6xx, then 660s then 560s, I like also the sundara and my get one later . Oh yes my 660s was made in Romania too . Regards mark
@robertobuatti72262 ай бұрын
I purchased the HD 660s a couple of years ago and really was disappointed from their sound signature / sound quality, they sound like the music is being played through a thick pillow, like not very clear at all, these were supposed to be my endgame headphone because all of the specs checked all the boxes for me, with their frequency response going as high as 40Khz, they are classified as high res headphones but to me they just sound too muffled.
@iris3186 Жыл бұрын
I have bought 660s but I don't like the sound . I will change it for a HD600 .
@chiropracticstudent95464 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Nice vid nice darth vader voice man
@chuckolatte6004 жыл бұрын
I find your lack of lack of faith rather...amusing ;)
@chiropracticstudent95464 жыл бұрын
@@chuckolatte600 hahahaha good one.
@pianistor5555 жыл бұрын
Disagree completely with your review owning the 660S (and also the 58X) I think they are very wonderful micro detailed headphones in bass, mids and treble. Definitely think there is something wrong with that unit as I definitely notice a night and day difference between these and the 58X Jubilees. 660S is a much superior headphone. I'm not saying they are perfect, but you know there's something wrong with your unit when almost every other reviewer or owner have been praising the 660S.
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
You may be right--to think that only Tyll and I dislike these HPs, not sure what to think of that.
@pianistor5555 жыл бұрын
@@chuckolatte600 Yeah, Tyll's main complaint was about grain and I think it's because this is the less veiled of the 6X0 line and also more detailed which can be perceived as "grain" or harsh. In my experience it would definitely depend on the song and mastering, but for me overall I think they are very smooth headphones (comparing it to the 58X which I did found grainy). I think you are a great reviewer BTW and as you stated that unit was used, so there could be a problem. But others reviews you've done are really good and accurate. Keep it going man!
@dnd63795 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Not sure what dac you are using though. I was using Fostex HP-A4BL and the 660S for me compared to the 650 had a lot more treble and sounded very aggressive (0 chill). The 660S were more similar to DT990 250ohm that I used to have and I compared them one next to another. I returned the 660S and now I have HD 650 which I prefer over any other headphone I had till now, HE 4XX had nice bass though and soundstage but QC for them was horrible (got 2 defective units) and the latter one had more treble than the first pair I got and quite a bit more of it. I am treble sensitive and young so my hearing is pretty good. I listen to many genres from classical to electronic and everything in between. 660S for me sounded like DT990 but with a bit less treble and a lot less bass (sub bass especially), the sound signature and detail was almost exactly the same which was surprising to me. Now with HD 650 and I'm planning on buying the Aune X1S again (I returned the first one that I got because I was just testing it). 650 are somewhat chill they are right in the middle I would say, songs that are aggressive will sound aggressive and songs that are chill will sound chill, so these are great for all genres. Didn't get the chance to test out HD 600 and I have no intention of buying them since I have 650 and loving them, I did test pretty much all the AT headphones (open backs and A2000Z, as well as MSR7) and I didn't like even one of them (sound signature was too chill and the bass was just nowhere to be found, with A2000Z being closest to my liking (it was close to 650 in terms of being able to be chill and aggressive) but the pads on AT headphones are way too thin so basically it's an on ear and not over ear, even though HD 650 touch my ears they don't sit on my ears like AT headphones did, the A2000Z was the most comfortable of the AT line as well as R70X. Wouldn't mind having R70X or AD1000X when I don't want treble to bother me though. Also if you get Sennheiser 600 line there is no upgrade just sidegrades, the same could be said if you get AD1000X, R70X or some nice planars.
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
I'm using the Schiit Modi 2 Uber. I too am young, so I tend to prefer slightly dark headphones to preserve my hearing and because I can still hear things lol
@dnd63795 жыл бұрын
@@chuckolatte600 Me 2 xd, I don't know how Z reviews could stand HD 660S but for me.... hell nah. I also heard that lower tier Schiit gear has thin sound and doesn't sound as smooth, not sure if you tested your setup with other dacs but would be interesting if you did, for example with something as Aune X1s or any other "higher tier" dacs. I'm 20 btw.
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
@@dnd6379 You know, I actually just got my SMSL SU-8 in the mail yesterday, but I haven't quite compared the two yet. I do hear a bit of a difference through initial impressions though. BTW I find the 660s to be darker than the 650, so I can definitely stand them, but I can barely hear any detail compared to the rest of the 600 line...
@dnd63795 жыл бұрын
@@chuckolatte600 Hmmm, interesting, very interesting. If I do intend and.... let's be honest at some point I will, I will get something completely different than sennheisers sound, like ad1000x and maybe k712. I am not sure if planars will do me well because (only had 4xx) they I would assume will not be as smooth as dynamics on a lot of music. Also, just looked up the SMSL dac.... damn man... god damn, looks huge... with a remote, okey, okey, do review it please. Oh and keep doing reviews, your voice is pleasant to listen to. Oh and are you sure there was nothing wrong about the 660S you got, since it is so different from my experience with 650 vs 660S?
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
Thanks lol. As far as I can tell, I didn't notice any functionality issues, everything worked perfectly well...@@dnd6379
@Leonhart_935 жыл бұрын
I don't listen to that much vocal music, so I don't consider the 600 are for that. Acoustic music sounds the best on then though.
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
I feel like they're all-rounders though. Although they lack in bass quantity a bit, I got used to it and now enjoy the tightness and texture of the bass
@Leonhart_935 жыл бұрын
@@chuckolatte600 It's more like every other reviewer I see mentions vocals as the main selling point. I suppose vocals make up most of the music collections of other people? While I do agree that vocals do indeed sound amazing on them, most of my music collection is compressed of music expressed without vocals. Since pretty much any acoustic instrument has the fundamentals in the range underlined by the HD 600, it's natural that kind of music will be ideal for them.
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm the same. Vocals aren't exactly my priority as long as they don't sound terrible. I listen to instruments more.@@Leonhart_93
@deusern5 жыл бұрын
This is honestly interesting, perhaps Sennheiser had some bad batches with the HD660s? I owned the HD660s before and to me they were too bright compared to my HD650. Bought a HD58X for "fun" listening on mobile/ps4 and they are noticeably more relaxed/bassy in a good way than the HD660s were, and for the price it was really a nobrainer. I think you should try with another pair, this demands more investigation!
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
Someday soon, for sure
@Randomizer92mx2 жыл бұрын
I tried a pair of 569 and it sounded brighter (painful at times) compared to 660s which were more enjoyable due to their darker signature.
@JohnDoe-vr9bj Жыл бұрын
Thanks for talking me out of grabbing the 660s on a whim because of a descent boxing day sale from $639 AUD to $499 AUD. The HD600 are tempting at $495 from $599, however, I believe they have jumped by a hundred dollars in the past couple of years, I could be wrong though. I've seen them at $500 plenty, so it doesn't feel like a bargain, though no doubt it is in terms of bang for buck. God damn x-mass and GAS is toxic capitalist bullshit. I already have HD800s and LCD 2 Rev 2 running through an OG Burson Conductor, Matrix M-Stage, or Focusrite Clarett, and other instrument outputs. Plus a pair of 1964 EARS V6 C-IEMS that still rock after a good 10 years, and a fairly recently aquired and seldom used pair of Philips Fidelio X2(?) as a DAP friendly beater set of cans for travel and hard use scenarios. Now this sale is making me rationalise getting the HD600 to sit above the Phillips, as they are such an iconic and great sounding set of cans with easy and cheap user replaceable parts. Fuck me. I really don't need more cans. The world is going to shit, and the cost of living makes food and gas feel like a luxury if consumed above the bare minimum needed for survival. Although I have a lot of cool gadgets, it's not because I'm wealthy, it's because I'm irresponsible with money. By western standards, I'm well in the depths of relative poverty. I feel guilty, and stupid looking around my room at the money I can see that I've wasted throughout my life in the form of tangible goods. And that is just what I can see in my current vicinity. I've been frugal for a long time only paying for necessities in all other areas of life, so I can afford nice audio gear and instruments. Times are getting tougher for everybody right now to the point that survival is becoming a luxury many people cannot afford. And here I am, wasting, or preparing to waste the little cash I have as a buffer between being broke and destitute on the things that make the though of continued survival tolerable. The world is fucked, and I cannot shirk away all responsibility for it being that way. I'm part of the problem, just like everyone else, within degrees, of course. If anything I need, besides more drugs, is consumable/wear items for the gear I have, a few cables to set my little studio up more effectively. A descent set of studio monitors should be the only thing worth dropping cash on, as I currently don't have any. Yet a damn sale made me lose my mind and start Gassing over a 5th set of cans that aren't even as good as my three best pairs. For an extra $300 AUD, I could get an open box pair of ADAM T8V, or new KRK G4 8's. Now they would be handy. But god damn, I'm going to have to sell some shit to justify blowing that sort of cash on something that won't even get me high. But out of all the shit that I need and do not have, monitors are the obvious choice. Of all the things I have that I don't need, I'm putting it all up for sale. Maybe enough of it sold quick enough, I could get the monitors, 600's, and stay high for a while longer. Fuck it. That's my plan. Sorry for off topic stream of consciousness. Though it helped me to come up with a plan of action and put the silly idea of getting HD 660s to bed. What's really fucked up, is that after playing instruments for so long, and also being injured which limits my ability to play like I used to (though I listen better than ever, despite a > mild case of tinnitus), I don't even get that much joy out of music anymore. But it is who I am; whatever that means. Edit: Goddamn HD650 on sale too, $800AUD to $600AUD. Fuck me, please. Literally. Sex work is starting to look appealing to me. Though I doubt I would make enough to buy a pair of Raycons.
@rajivseereeram575 Жыл бұрын
Jesus bless this man.
@Beristain775 жыл бұрын
this conparacion video sounds great in my hd 660s!!!
@AudiowaveTV4 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching the comparison as soon as I heard him say AUX connection is better than TRS. Take everything you see in this video with a grain of salt. The guy reviewing it from an average consumer standpoint and not from an audio engineering standpoint. (I am on the hunt for videos where actual audiophiles and engineers are talking about REAL information....not the marketing crap that they are trying to sell...)
@michaelreed6493 жыл бұрын
Great job
@6643bear4 ай бұрын
Great ta
@MichaelSidneyTimpson Жыл бұрын
I heard there is some differences between the 6xx and 650. Did you notice?
@6643bear7 ай бұрын
Hi great informative video, I bought 660s recently for £259 , because of the price point , I have 6xx with custom cabs bass mod and that become my go to headphones, I wonder if u get a chance to review 660s2 , regards mark
@chuckolatte6004 ай бұрын
I did! Check out the channel :)
@Tripokaridos223 ай бұрын
Most of his reviews are spot on, But something is really wrong with this 660s Review , Maybe he had different 660s. I have 2 version of 660s Romanian and Ireland the new Clear Rings ... They have some really small difference. But compared to HD 600 ... 660s are way more Energetic and have way tighter bass with more speed ... Some people say that 660s Speed on bass is even close to Sundara ( i would say its close yeah i also have Sundara) . So in my Opinion that i have all HD 5 and HD 6 line ( except 620s) . HD 600 are by far the Vocals Kings , HD 650 are warm smooth relax sound , HD660s have the vocals a bit more back and bigger stage better speed better imaging but they do sound a bit dry , HD660s2 in my opinion are (technically the best) The have tight bass , speed, imaging , of 660s but smoother they dont sound dry they sound more Organic. But All HD 6 line is amazing and its honestly about taste. For my Taste 660s2>600>660s>650 but i love all them so much its my babies :) .
@6643bear3 ай бұрын
Hi , I totally agree with your findings , I have 6xx with custom cans bass mod which does improve the bass at bottom end , I have also replaced the pads for thicker one and done the same for 660s , also changed the cables for silver plated van Damme cables, I haven’t bought 660s2 as yet am hoping that someone do a review on the 6xx with the custom cans bass mod v the 660s2 to see if similar response in the bass . Great video, regards mark
@TheSteve573 жыл бұрын
I find vocals on 660s a bit harsh, is this me ??? And are 600s smoother ??
@Anomalyn12 жыл бұрын
yea they're smoother
@aaronsanjuan76124 жыл бұрын
it seems like people always prefer the old from the new in this line of headphones. I remember a lot of reviewers and people in forums preferring the 580 (not 58X) over the 600 and 650 before the 660s came out, because of the sound signature and not technical performance.
@chuckolatte6004 жыл бұрын
Frankly, yeah. But in the end, it doesn't matter how well a HP performs if you don't want to listen to it lol
@MichaelSidneyTimpson Жыл бұрын
You left off the 58x mids. what do you have to say about them?
@InDueTime255 жыл бұрын
You guys have got to try the 660s with the balance cable included. I bought an adapter (3.5mm Male to Female 2.5mm/4.4mm Adapter Balanced Cable Cord for NW-WM1Z ZX300A) on ebay and I think the sound improved a lot. Not to mention, I burned them in for 24 hours. Try it and see if that works for you.
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
interesting...
@InDueTime255 жыл бұрын
@@chuckolatte600 chuckolatte I honestly felt like my ears were broken with all the love people had for them. As a matter of fact, I was disgusted and just let them sit there for weeks contemplating if I should just resell them. They're now my favorites after watching reviews on how to make them sound better. Watch this video. SPDTDL is the channel and look for 660 S. I don't like the fact that they require more time and money to bring out the sound but I'd say, it was worth it.
@JDS_im4 жыл бұрын
That doesn't even work lol.. You can't use an adapter to turn single-ended output into a balanced run.
@michaelgilbert78413 жыл бұрын
Doesn't work that way man. Balanced hps need to have balanced output and input lol
@zivschwartz90822 жыл бұрын
The only review I agree with after owning both HD600 and HD660x. More accurate than even Tyler at InnerFidelity or any of the amateurs with pretty videos and poor information. The only things I somewhat disagree with is the comment on HD660s bass is a bit harsh, I agree its not super detailed but the bass is really nice and present without being muddy in jazz/classical; also the comment that HD600 is narrow without soundstage I disagree with wherein I find with classical tracks it sounds wider than HD660s and feels more like you are in the concert hall vs the HD660s where the orchestra is in your ear. I don’t think its fair to compare with HD58x, HD660s so far superior in quality but not necessarily value. HD58x is the best value entry level headphone ever made. I agree HD600 is superior to HD660s, but I have a friend with a terrific ear who would disagree!
@marcinurban31975 жыл бұрын
this review doesn't agree with all reviews of 660s out there... do You think that Your 660s is faulty, because that doesn't make sense to me?
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
It honestly could be, but I can't think of what the problem can possible be. It worked perfectly fine and I heard no issues other than disliking the sound. They didn't sound broken or faulty in any way though...
@majestyk33374 жыл бұрын
Tons of people say they like the 600's better. Nothing unusual about that.
@Eugenetra7 Жыл бұрын
@@majestyk3337 And tons say that 650 are better, and tons say that 660s are better because they have some qualities of all of 600 and 650 conbined)) Hard choice for people who cannot listen to any of them before buying(
@CoffeeGameMovie11 ай бұрын
Somehow u have a very bad experience with the 660s. I got this a few days ago and first it had a very bad boxy sound, like as it would sound from underwater. Maybe u didnt warm it in, cuz from what u said i cant help but suspect that... Because after the warm in period (1-2 days) it sound quite different, just opened up. Its not that dark anymore, and the soundtage is better too. The graininess disappeared, and the highs dont have those little metallic effects anymore. (it was at first with some female vocals) So its quite interesting that opinions differs this much from this headphone. Oh and i use it with a fiio K7 and with balanced cable, maybe thats matters too. I have a HD600 too and honestly, now i like the 660s at least that much as the 600. They stronger and weaker in different spots, but no one is objectively better than the other, just different.
@purplesalad4 жыл бұрын
where do I find that blue color?
@chuckolatte6004 жыл бұрын
Blue color? The original HD600 have that finish. I'm sure that amazon now sells the updated model, but you could find the original on eBay for around $200
@leviathan52073 жыл бұрын
Look at the 660S FR and you will see, the "veil" is real (this time), since there aint no treble to speak of. I own a 660S and even though I got it brand new for 350€ I regret my purchase, since the 600 and 650 are way BETTER.
@chuckolatte6003 жыл бұрын
Yeah I REALLY need to try and buy a brand new pair of HD660s to try and compare them again haha
@omarabadi37914 жыл бұрын
660s don’t care what you want to hear; they tell you what your gonna hear
@practicalguy9734 жыл бұрын
@Spongebob Schwanzkopf I dont know, the 660s has the biggest whole in the frequency response versus both the 650 and 600. The 650 and 660s are very similar in price yet the 660s has an extra $200 balanced cable not included with the 650. So dollar wise the 650 could be the more expensive headphone and therefore more quality put into it.
@LandsPlanes2 жыл бұрын
For you which is better?
@chuckolatte6002 жыл бұрын
I prefer the HD600's brighter and leaner sound
@theyodax79265 жыл бұрын
I'm in a position to upgrade.I'm toying with he idea of upgrading my 600s to a 800s.But I'm having a hard time with the cost.I am also toying with the idea of upgrading the cable of the 600.Im looking at the Cardas Parsec Headphone Cable, for a upgrade to the 600s.Any thoughts?
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
I think it could be worth the upgrade if you sell your 600 and find a used hd800s for around $1000. I wouldn't pay $1600 for the hd800s especially if you can't choose interest-free financing.
@juanmillaruelo76473 жыл бұрын
How about Anandas at $800? Give them a try. Biggest bargain in Headphonia Land. But don't buy those second hand: they are more delicate than Senns.
@JDS_im4 жыл бұрын
Did you even burn them in before reviewing? Used pads in equal shape for comparing each?
@chuckolatte6004 жыл бұрын
yes
@Kroko843 жыл бұрын
No offense or anything, but burn-in is a myth. Any audible differences come down to confirmation bias, not actual change in the reproduction of sound by the headphones or speakers.
@danielfisch3892 жыл бұрын
@@Kroko84 Sennheiser themselves have stated the same on their homepage: „ At Sennheiser we do not have an official stance regarding the theory that headphones need a "burn in" period. Sennheiser headphones are designed to sound great from the first moment they are plugged in.
@insthatbass5 жыл бұрын
your opinion is exactly same as mine lol. i cannot understand why they made 660s. Also I feel hd800 is way better than hd800s. Anything comes with “s” from sennheiser seems to be darker than the original one.
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm currently looking into some endgame HP options and for some reason I feel more attracted to the 800 rather than the 800s
@midoriwind2764 жыл бұрын
Your opinion also is similar to what I heard from the hd660 I haf
@Randomizer92mx2 жыл бұрын
They made the 660s as a more modern audio version of the classics 600, catering to a new audience getting into hi res headphones. Probably not for everyones taste but those who love them kept them.
@bratosin15 жыл бұрын
The hd660s is the best of all sennheiser made in the last 20 years , i have tested all , the hd660s sounds perfect 33.33.33% bass.mids.highs , very very balanced sound , if he sound bad u have something wrong in your chain , or maybe u dont like professional balanced type of sound than doesn't emphasize any freq
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
But see, that's the thing. The bass sounded the most bloated out of the 600 line, the mids were the least clear, and the highs were simply not there whatsoever. I'd honestly prefer a pair of 650 over the 660s. Maybe it was just my pair...?
@emmanuelarts8315 жыл бұрын
I agree, i tested almost 40 headphones the other day for mixing, but not "flat" mixing, I feel like flat mixing don't allow to understand the bass in a natural way, headphones like Beyerdynamics are good but imo they are too clean and flat, better for lining up a 4 violin recording, and probably that's the usage of it, instead to mix with some very good bass details and get the whole package this are an insane headphones set. I didn't even think something like this was existing. Price is very high, but i feel like worth every single euro. I totally don't get why this guy says " don't get these" while pointing at one of the best headphones in the market hands down, closer to the other "best" ones, this explains a lot how everyone has their own ears and way to see things.
@bratosin15 жыл бұрын
@@chuckolatte600 man i dont know ,may be a faulty pair or your amp/dac , the hd660 is better than both 600/650 , or maybe you have listen for many many years the 600/650 and you are bias?
@bratosin15 жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelarts831 i believe hd660 is the best headphones u may get that have this perfect balanced hi fi sound , only 260g , u can go balanced , no amp picky, true open design u can see the drive, airy sound , works well with any amp and even without one is pretty damn good , no hot spots , comfortable , doesn't become hot , and doesn't cost 2000 bucks, for sure u can find better headphones but for the price is very very hard to beat the 660
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
@@bratosin1 Less than a year, and my setup is definitely not faulty in any way. If anything, it definitely had to be the HPs themselves.
@AudiowaveTV4 жыл бұрын
Stopped watching when you said the default Aux Connector was a PLUS for the 600, over the TRS connection from 660S. We obviously don't do the same type of work or have same needs from the headphone....
@brydon105 жыл бұрын
Try the DT 990 600 ohm. It's incredible, and not just for the price. When you factor in the price I don't think it can be beat.
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
Hmm... I'll take a look lol
@cdub19153 жыл бұрын
i was very conflicted between the two as im a very indecisive person this helped alot
@gregvandy89024 жыл бұрын
Everyone has different hearing. Different preferences. The senn 6 series' sound can vary greatly depending on the source/amp/dac. I own 660s, 6xx, 600 and 58x jubilee. I dont own a 650 but it sounds identical to the 6xx. The 58x sounds similar to the 660s and I'd definitely consider the 58x to be a 6 series. Im my opinion the 660s is the superior headphone but not by alot over the others with the 600 being my least favorite. I'd buy the 58x, its a deal. Its 95% as good as the 660s and with a simple mod, good luck tellin them apart. 660s comes with better/more cables but the 58x value cant be beat and i prefer the sound over all the other 6 series aside from 660s. Mod the 58x, its a special headphone. Also its amazing for everything even gaming as its imaging is outstanding. You can pick up the location of sounds with such precision. Get the 58x, skip the rest.
@dustindavidson91393 жыл бұрын
This comment is under rated. The only other senns I've heard beside my 58x is the 560s and 599s and they were to dry and sterile sounding. The 560s has good detail and sound stage but the imaging was a three blob and the bass rolled off quicker then the 58x. The 599's wasn't my bag either sent that back to fast to even describe why I didn't like it. Lol 58x is the deal of a century in headphones. Need to try the mod(s).
@W4YN0T2 жыл бұрын
Wow! This dude has no clue what he's talking about. Please don't listen to him and check both headphones before choosing the right one for you. DO NOT make your decision based on this review cause you will regret it. HD660s are brilliant headphones and definitely an improvement to HD600.
@makafuniruni2 жыл бұрын
Excactly my words.This review is just meaningless
@buttercat12082 жыл бұрын
If you prefer the 600, then just say you prefer the 600. Don’t pretend that you can justify your preference with some “comparisons” that remotely make any sense. Obviously, many people have their nostalgia thing going on with the 600 so it’s understandable that you wanna trash the 660s or any other newer ones that are the successors to the 600.
@vpconcepts98383 жыл бұрын
Throw a Kimber Kable "AXIOS" cable on the HD600 and it's "One headphone to rule them all!" 🤣👌🎧✨🎼
@bandhanjha85633 жыл бұрын
Had both headphones. Can confirm this comparison makes no sense.
@chuckolatte6003 жыл бұрын
How so?
@auro86493 жыл бұрын
thanks I was thinking the same lol
@demon-ll9eg3 жыл бұрын
which one is better for spoken word not songs ?
@scottlowell4935 жыл бұрын
The 660 are not an upgrade from the 600. They are an alternate voicing. I prefer the Hd600.
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
They're supposed to be an upgrade (even if I don't hear one tbh) given that they're the latest and priciest from the HD600 line. I also prefer my HD600
@yuribillones50945 жыл бұрын
Who said they were an update? Who actually said that?
@demon-ll9eg3 жыл бұрын
which one is better for spoken word not songs ?
@Randomizer92mx2 жыл бұрын
There's a reason why 600, 650 and 660s are still sold and not one of the older versions were discontinued: personal preference, as each of them have their own audience
@dudeduck Жыл бұрын
@@chuckolatte600 I would argue that is more of a lateral step, its pricier now because research and development costs for the 660s have'nt been paid for, while the 650 and 600 have been in the market for decades and are now cheaper than they were when first released. As time goes by and units get sold, price will come down as well, I bought my pair new for 300 and I judge them based on that price
@junzhang20873 жыл бұрын
The Hd600 is a reference.
@junzhang20873 жыл бұрын
An HD6xx powered with a tube amp with be heavenly
@chuckolatte6003 жыл бұрын
So I've heard...will be glad to test that out one day!
@jeffsmith22832 жыл бұрын
@7:20 gets to sound quality.
@user-pz8wk9ft5o5 жыл бұрын
600 is better than 650 and 660s.
@majestyk33374 жыл бұрын
@Spongebob Schwanzkopf Um, no. 600 >>650.
@kirjuschaks3 жыл бұрын
HD580 with oldschool "white" damping from the older hd540/560 series even better...
@pubbzie58665 жыл бұрын
Hey man coming from the hyper x cloud would you recommend the 660s? I have a goxlr for my dac, is the change worth it or just negligible?
@chuckolatte6005 жыл бұрын
Although the HD660s are overhyped IMO, they're DEFINITELY better than a gaming headset. I've heard great things about the higher-end Hyper X headsets, but haven't heard any myself.
@pubbzie58665 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice man!! I appreciate the reply
@kadu10293 жыл бұрын
Tried both and the hyper x is trash compared tbh
@memberrrberry72825 жыл бұрын
650’s all the way
@dnd63795 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, 660S too much like beyers with the treble.
@Leonhart_935 жыл бұрын
@@dnd6379 The comparison with Beyerdynamics doesn't work, they are far too different. I had them all, the Beyers can have like 10 dB boosted treble across a wide spectrum and often recessed mids. They are a pain to equalize. While 660s only has a few dB here and there peaks and dibs in the treble, leagues apart out of the box
@dnd63795 жыл бұрын
@@Leonhart_93 I had them as well and they sounded very similar in terms of the sound signature and detail, if you don't count in bass and treble, although 660S was closer to 990 in treble than 650.
@brydon105 жыл бұрын
DT 990 600 ohm is the most comfortable and best sounding headphone I've heard. Probably going to sell my HD6XX now.
@Leonhart_935 жыл бұрын
@@brydon10 Have that one, but I had to equalize it heavily in order to make it sound good. You must really prefer bright headphones, but I prefer them as natural-sounding as possible Had to take like 8 db from the 7-15 kHZ treble range and boost the middle range by a few dB. The driver is very capable so no detectable harmonic distortion was introduced, even after that relatively heavy DSP.
@b4uloveme4 жыл бұрын
Your hand doesn’t match with your voice
@chuckolatte6004 жыл бұрын
lol
@hoodedman073 жыл бұрын
That’s the weirdest thing I’ve ever heard hahah
@xipishi2 жыл бұрын
mute. then let us watch a comedy, actor: right hand.
@njdoughboy4 жыл бұрын
stopped watching when i saw the crud under the nails.