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"Sentimental" by Porcupine Tree EXPLAINED
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4 жыл бұрынTime Consuming Ep #6 "Sentimental" by Porcupine Tree deals with the tension built between rhythm and harmony, and the power of musical context on our rhythmic perception.
This is obviously the tip of the ice berg when it comes to this concept, so if you'd want to dive deeper, feel free to contact me at gabayyogev@gmail.com
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Intro by Sharon Renold (@sharonrenold on Instagram) and myself
Intro music by Shwesmo (@shwesmo on Instagram)
Thanks to Nuphar Fey (@nupharfey on Instagram) for the harmony help!
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@byrneiv 3 жыл бұрын
"Me... Yogev Gabay... a drummer... I'm gonna discuss harmony." Instant thumbs up.
@TheFloatingBartender 3 жыл бұрын
I know right ❤️
@filipkocis3351 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that Gavin himself saw this video? He actually pointed at it as a good explanation when I was asking him about the song. His words: "spot on". Keep it up Yogev.
@YogevGabay 2 жыл бұрын
Wait are you serious ?!
@YippiCola 3 жыл бұрын
For 10 or so years, I'd always known something was off with this song but never tried dissecting it, so I'd never realized it was anywhere near this intricate. Thus, you just blew my mind. Keep it coming man.
@marloc2019 3 жыл бұрын
The song might be sentimental but this guy's vid is monumental.... Simply awesome.
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I appreciate it !
4 жыл бұрын
My favorite Porcupine Tree album. That song always felt off and now I know why! Thank you!!!
@YogevGabay 4 жыл бұрын
Man this album is gold. Gold!
@forgettable8365 3 жыл бұрын
1:47 that's a drummer counting!
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
Cant escape it hahahahaha
@MSkwar 3 жыл бұрын
Fuuuuuuck dude. I've always been stuck at the "random 5s and 6s..." Part. Well done!!
@asloii_1749 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was triplets thats why I was confused
@qlqnen 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite "rhythmic illusions" that I've come across. I've tried explaining this to a bunch of friends and they're just like "...okay". Great channel, I've been going through your videos over the past couple of days. Subbed!
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@sinkler123 4 жыл бұрын
The production value of these videos surprise me every time :) Both the information and your process are very well presented. kudus !
@toprak3479 3 жыл бұрын
This rhythm was beyond analysis for me. I can't believe you managed to dissect it so easily. Bravo.
@asloii_1749 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the most complex pop song ever written. I love Steven's ability to blend complexity and emotion.
@FrancoBits 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you explain time signature with visual elements. Time seems so abstract to me and your method helps me a lot to understand it.
@banehog 11 ай бұрын
@10:14 - actually, if you want to hear a "regular 4/4" with these chords, listen to the song "Normal". It's pretty much just an alternate version of this song with exactly the same chorus (although they do sneak a couple of 7-bars in there).
@aagloworks 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that this song might have any problematic rhytmical components... It has always felt natural 4/4 with polyrythmic piano to me. Well, there's always something new to learn. :)
@kevinmejia9065 Жыл бұрын
Oh God, never thought this level of complexity was in the song
@ceezbgacom 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo. You got me thinking about this song's fraternal twin, Normal.
@Keyspoet27 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agreed; PLEASE do a video on Normal, which has long been my favorite of the two.
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
You mean the porcupine tree one?
@Keyspoet27 3 жыл бұрын
@@YogevGabay Yes, Normal by Porcupine Tree.
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keyspoet27 It's a great song. I will listen again !
@CadencelyZ 4 ай бұрын
I just found your channel and noticed the last video was for almost 1 year ago, I hope you come back and keep making videos like this.👍
@arjunchakraborty2206 4 жыл бұрын
First!!!! Porcupine tree is the band that has absolutely changed my life!! Thanks Yogev sir!
@PieceOfDuke 3 жыл бұрын
Man, you analyze so many of my favorite songs I never managed to decipher. Thank you sooo much. This one will be learned right away.
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahah love it when it's songs people know!
@tamirleibovich 4 жыл бұрын
I wish every explanation i'll get in my life will be clear and fun like this !! keep it up !
@YogevGabay 4 жыл бұрын
Melech!!
@i.alinawaz 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad, KZfaq recommended me this channel. This is just so much of pure knowledge. Exciting & Entertaining. Keep up the good work Mr. Yogev.
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thanks a lot Ali!
@XJoeyJordison666X Жыл бұрын
God gavin is so slick with the grooves he comes up with
@YogevGabay Жыл бұрын
HELL YEAH
@mottimor4280 Ай бұрын
Yogev - this is great, clear creative and interesting. Thanks !
@stefan86wtf 3 жыл бұрын
So interesting! Addicted to your channel now :) Oh, and you might make a 4/4-dependant death and doom metal guy create some weird music. Haha.
@el_mr_white 2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@CAVescera 3 жыл бұрын
Um... I have been binging your videos all morning, and I'm hooked. Even my Wife (a non-musician) is listening in and now starting to think of time signatures as a puzzle. She even hung around for the Bleed/Meshuggah.
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man that's awesome to hear hahahahah Thanks!
@wkingston1248 4 жыл бұрын
Not even porqupine tree dares to defy the Singer Song Writer Manifesto, truly there are no heros left. Love the videos man keep it up.
@YogevGabay 4 жыл бұрын
It's a harsh world man, that manifesto controls us all.
@fernandadias6266 Жыл бұрын
I don't get it, what's the " Singer Song Writer Manifesto"? sorry for my ignorance.
@tvdg2482 Жыл бұрын
@@fernandadias6266 Watch the video
@samwise2588 3 жыл бұрын
I've been suggesting this song incessantly only to find you already did it :] You're a legend.
@jeant2126 3 жыл бұрын
What is impressing, is first the job you did to explain this song's intro. But also the fact that this rythmic "trick" flows very easy to the ear when you listen to the song. I never realized there was something "strange" until today and you explained it in a very easy way to understand ! Thanks !
@oxvaldus Ай бұрын
Instant subscription
@Christosasonitis 3 ай бұрын
Harmony and rhythm have a 4 on 3 relation. (4 on 3 polyrhythm). That means the harmonic rhythm is faster than the main rhythm, that’s why the piano is not mostly played on the downbeats of the drums. It’s very tricky because at first we hear only the piano which is played on 4 and we have the illusion that these notes are the main downbeats. When the drum part enters it confuses us because it is played on 3. Its downbeats are the truly downbeats of the song, that’s why the piano pattern disappears after a couple of bars. I am pretty sure that this idea was brought to the band by Gavin.
@Birdieguy Жыл бұрын
Yes the 4/4 thing is true, but the keyboard intro is in 75/32. It's all amazing!
@aviramspies 4 жыл бұрын
אלוף! בהצלחה בערוץ!
@adamkontra4677 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this, It is so helpful to see someone who actually know what he is doing, analyze the song and explaining the entire process! You are great!
@antoniomh743 3 жыл бұрын
Cristal clear!
@GoblinAlchem 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. The same process happens in my head when I listen to prog or jazz. Currently I am familiar with this song and I tune my head to the correct rhythm just from the start, using the subtle chord changes; but I remember that the first time it was the same confusion and analysis. Great explanation, music meets math!
@aldobrionesflores 11 ай бұрын
Great!! :)
@Baha2490 3 жыл бұрын
There is a similar interesting 4/3 polyrhythm in "Language" by The Contortionist (2:20 in the Rediscovered version), where the hi-hat plays the 3 pulse while the guitar plays the 4, and what's interesting is that the guitar motif is 6 notes long, so it only resolves after 2 motives, i.e. 12 guitar notes and 9 hi-hat beats (the original version adds a bit more complexity by starting the polyrhythm syncopated instead of on-beat, it aligns after 6 notes and only then every 12 notes).
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
Will check it out!
@thecrolcontroller Жыл бұрын
I love the way you explain this... something i love about music is that there is no limitation at the time of composing... thanks good content
@YogevGabay Жыл бұрын
I'm happy you like it !
@yedidyameirmusic6694 4 жыл бұрын
Dude!!!!! That's insane!!!!!
@RohannvanRensburg 3 жыл бұрын
Man well done. The effort you put into production makes these especially interesting to watch, keep it up!
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@guidofazzito 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely
@MirkoAlbanese94 3 жыл бұрын
You are Magnificent!
@tipdub 2 жыл бұрын
Great job breaking down one of my favorites!!
@estudiozebra 3 жыл бұрын
wow man! thx
@lkc5637 3 жыл бұрын
I love this song and it's complicated timings. Total respect to your sleuth energy, but I'll try to forget this video and keep enjoying listening to this amazing song. ( backhanded compliment to Yogev)
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahaha epic
@rexyxjo 3 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation man! Thanks!
@seankoresh9490 3 жыл бұрын
יוגב אין לי מושג איך הגעתי לכאן אבל שמח שמצאתי תוכן מעולה ומוסבר יפה מאוד!
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
מבסוט שהצטרפת!
@jonasforlot 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome !!! this intro drove me crazy !!! thank you for these very clear explanations
@yes0genesis 2 жыл бұрын
This video is incredible! Thank you for breaking this down and analyzing!
@stavze 4 жыл бұрын
AMAZING!!!
@drummerpablo1 3 жыл бұрын
holy shit this was so good
@pitzpitz 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation and really cool concept in this song :)
@meharchumble3695 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Thank you for this.
@surendrakoirala2839 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done appreciate your hard work ❤❤❤
@NupharFey 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Y!
@gustavogarcez161 4 жыл бұрын
Ooh man I just love that song
@YogevGabay 4 жыл бұрын
Same!
@fVNzO 2 жыл бұрын
I actually have the drums for the intro written out and can play it note for note. After playing it for a while you find that it’s really just a bunch of repeating patterns.
@YogevGabay 2 жыл бұрын
It is!
@kungfudrummer 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome work Yogev, looking forward to checking out the other videos.
@YogevGabay 4 жыл бұрын
נועם לדרמן בכבודו ובעצמו! תודה תודה תודה, שמח לאללה שאהבת!
@kungfudrummer 4 жыл бұрын
Yogev Gabay 👌🏼אהבתי מאוד בן אדם, כל הכבוד
@ce_wono 3 жыл бұрын
Noice) Reminded me of the fluid accents in Sun May Shine by Tamino
@jonathanlowry6566 3 жыл бұрын
This song is so underrated for a porcupine tree song
@JulianFernandez 4 жыл бұрын
haha, good one. quality content right here.
@andrewlong7578 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at the chords stabs without the bass notes on the piano makes the assessment somewhat incomplete. The bass notes actually making feeling and playing it far easier.
@andrewlong7578 3 жыл бұрын
To explain, I think of it as a 16th note bass note followed by a 8th note chord. I think of it as a bar of 6/8 followed by a bar of 5/8. I suspect that intellectually Steven Wilson intended the two meters against each other but likely feels it as accents in 4/4 as Gavin Harrison does.
@offydannerson8049 3 жыл бұрын
In understand so little of the musical bits but I absorb your videos nonetheless
@Koropokel 4 жыл бұрын
check out Kompost 3 from Austria ! Bioluminescence for example has a really interessting time signature
@TheFloatingBartender 3 жыл бұрын
I went to write something but everyone beat me to it 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@Zorgcho 4 жыл бұрын
Yogev, thank you for this, great content. Subscribed. Would you take a listen to Another Way Around by Mike Stern? It seems to be in 4/4 but the rhythm in the beginning is really surprising.
@YogevGabay 4 жыл бұрын
I'll check it out!
@theunforgiven849 4 жыл бұрын
I love this video man. Thanks a lot. Can you do Deliverence by Opeth in one of your next videos? Especially the outro part.
@YogevGabay 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The Deliverance outro is such a cool riff! It's basically a very long phrase, but all in 4 bars of 4/4.
@vaibhavtalwadker818 4 жыл бұрын
The outro for Reverie/Harlequin Forest is great too!
@BORGESALEPH78 3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain the intricate time elements in Christopher Nolan’s “Tenet”?
@YogevGabay 3 жыл бұрын
Which section?
@musaacuminata5381 5 күн бұрын
Start with normal and then sentimental
@razorlord9330 2 жыл бұрын
Damn no wonder why I kept feeling there was something was wrong with the song..
@YogevGabay 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah this one is hard !
@alexobregonbauluz3304 Ай бұрын
moral of the story: everything is in 4/4 if you dont count like a nerd :P
@frenchiesfrankieandhenry 3 жыл бұрын
Pass-the-god-damn- but-ter
@HerbalistGuybrush 5 ай бұрын
Well its not really working like 4against3 with dotted aids
@BrutalWeenielml 4 жыл бұрын
car bomb would be great! I enjoy your videos
@YogevGabay 4 жыл бұрын
That is very much in the list !
@angelaskarpelis4022 4 жыл бұрын
Hi hi hi homie. I have a rec! From the Afrolatin world. “Voodoo Economics (WolfMan)” by Ìfé
@YogevGabay 4 жыл бұрын
Yo yo yo, I'll check this out!
@ApacienciaNECESSARIAparaOgoogl 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting your take on the latest Pain Of Salvation Single: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7d7oLJ70ZqriIU.html
@YogevGabay 4 жыл бұрын
Checking it out!
@Koropokel 4 жыл бұрын
Yogev I love you but porcupine tree is gay and sounds like a mix between elton john and linkin park
@YogevGabay 4 жыл бұрын
hahahahahah well, is gay bad?
@shorabali 4 жыл бұрын
What?
@Keyspoet27 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly you need to open your ears AND mind.
@Koropokel 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keyspoet27 I'm not saying loving another man is wrong. its just gay. just like porcupine tree, elton john and linkin park.
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