ㄹㅇ 1악장 부터 성의없이 하다가 2악장부터 실실 웃더니 3악장에서 각성함ㅋㅋㅋ what a shame

이미 러시아 스타 트리포노프를 왕좌에 앉히기로 작정했겠죠.

He must've been pissed off by their mistakes,of course. So cute!☺He was great and flawless here but many korean fans agreed that 3rd prize was reasonable for him at that age. By the way, Cho is a truly blessed young artist,I think, having such good fans like you. ☺

May I ask why did he made that face?

@@user-lh1jb2xm3zbecause the orchestra wasn’t following him.

Agreed

아ㅠㅠㅠㅠ 진짜 개눈물나와ㅠㅠㅠㅠ

오케스트라가 괜히 방해한느낌 엄청 견제당했나보다

이미 다닐이 우승인 분위기에.. 어린 동양인 연주자 별로 신경 안썼겠죠...그래도 3등준건 대단히 인정해준거라 봅니다.

저 오케때문에 협연 트라우마로 한동안 협연을 안했을 정도 였다고 합니다.

아정말,,,뭐지뭐지

19:40엔 아예 연주를 안함 금메달 자국민한테 주고싶은지 소련깡패시절 습성을 못버렸나봄

이때 우승한 사람은 지금 세계적으로 유명한 피이니스트가 되었나요?

이때 우승하신분이 다닐 트리포노프 입니다 이미 거장이셨던 피아니스트고 개인적으로 손열음 조성진의 결선 연주도 우승감이였다고 생각합니다만 이미 거장수준이였던 다닐에겐 좀 힘들지 않았나 싶습니다

@@cherrydarling1546 다닐 트리포노프도 뛰어난 연주자임. 그리고 조성진은 그것을 훨씬 더 뛰어넘는 연주자 쇼팽콩쿠르때도 둘다 정말 대단하다고 느꼈는데(다닐2010 조성진2015) 차이코프스키연주를 들으니 조성진이 월등한걸 알겠음

역시 소트니코바 보유국 ㅗ

+organboi Wow, can you elaborate it a bit? Never knew or noticed and so interesting Thanks in advance.

Could you elaborate? Was also not aware of this difference when others perform this piece.

Try to listen to any version of this piece, they most probably have a different rhytm at the final octaves, which is not the original one of Tchaikovsky's composition. In fact many pianists sacrifice the sound of this masterpiece with the purpose of amazing the audeince with very fast tempos. In this performance Cho played it exactly as it was originally written, showing a deep philological interest that is not very common in young pianists

Actually, no he's not. In, I believe 1941 Horowitz had a live recording to rise money for the US war effort. I had the 78's. He plays the triplets, but he's done with all but the last 10 notes he played as triplets gloving him enough time to really delineate those triplets to a greater degree. No one played octaves like Horowitz, not even the great master/composer.

Sorry, this is in response to poster "organboi", who was sharp enough to pick it out.

+J. J. Townley Trifonov played this same concerto, but you can hear his obvious mistakes on his performance. Cho played flawlessly despite the orchestra's error. If Cho were Russian, I'd not be surprised to see Cho winning the top prize along with Trifonov.

He was stolen. It's obvious Russians want Russian pianists, they are soviets yet

Similarly, russians stole Yuna kim's gold medal in sochi 2014, giving it to unpopular russian skater-adelina sotnikova-who was caught having taken banned substance(or illegal drug) in competition. Totally agree that dirty politics goes on possibly every competition-sports, arts, everything. Russia is the country even making players who compete in paralympic games to commit doping shamelessly. Shame on russia's dirty national character.

Cho pin sj

dirty business. dirty mind.

Nope. I know exactly what happened. Most common thing in the world. A soloist picks up the tempo (Cho got faster) and half the orchestra rightly uses their EARS to follow the pianist, the other half lags behind waiting for the conductor's beat, which was at the former tempo. However, the conductor should have gone with Cho's slightly faster tempo. Ultimately it was Cho's "fault" for rushing. But it is the soloist's choice whether or not to go a little faster at these exciting codas. The conductor should have been a "good accompanist" and followed him.

언어센스 맘에 듦.

@@bchan0317 생각을 하다 마는건지 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그런 노장들이랑 당시 17살 조성진이랑 비벼주면 조성진이 조성진이 황송하겠다... 그리고 개인적으로 그 두명 들을빠에 조성진 듣겠음 ㅋㅋ 한명은 유태인 쓰레기에 한명은 재작년에 내 시간 돈 착실히 버려주신 분이라 정이 안가내 ㅋ

@@bchan0317 그래 그때 다닐 손열음이 존나 잘했지 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 다닐은 대단한 실력에 러시아 특권도 있었으니 순위권은 먹고 들어갈만 했고 손열음은 지금 다시 들어도 모짜르트 엄청난 연주였으니까. 근대 조성진이 부족해서 3위라고? 글쌔 ? 애초에 저 당시에 참가자들이랑 비교했으면 몰라도 그런 노장들을 드리대는건 존나 논점 밖이다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

@@bchan0317 님 댓글을 보니까 이 곡을 처음 초연했을때 무쟈 형편없는 협주곡이란 비평을 쏟아낸 작곡자의 동포음악가들이 생각나네요ㅋ

윤성찬 ㅇㅇ그 누구처럼 생각이 멈추신 듯 하네요. 방구석 꼰대느낌이 스멀...화려했던 시절에서 멈춰버림 현실은 시궁창. 아는 건 최대한 아는 척 해야 그런 맛으로라도 세상 살지 않을까. Ryan

캬~~~소트니 코바 이 이름 얼마 만이냐 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 진짜 이것도 참 너무하다

오~~그랬군요. 김연아는 알고 있었는데 조성진님도 ???? 세상은 어디나 그러네요. 예술도~~~

러시아가 그런게 좀 심하죠

이런 음모론 이제 좀 지겹다...

소트니코밬ㅋㅋㅋ

..i know right. ..helpless & regrettable.

and the winner of this is Russia held competition is a nameless Russian. Same thing happened in figure skating in Sochi, with world's incomparable #1 Yuna Kim becoming number two. Shame on Communist country. Hope Russia can meet and interact with another country just like itself.

That is awful. So the flutes never came in. Wow. How is that possible? And I'm amazed how they show the flutes immediately after, and they look as if nothing happened. Such incompetence. Maybe they did it on purpose. Or not. Maybe the conductor didn't bring them in on purpose.

그리고 예전 연주와 지금 연주들의 차이점이 개인적 생각으로는 10대때는 막힘없이 열정으로 연주했다면 지금은 굉장히 고민하고 조심스럽고 다양한 시도를 하는것 같아요 그리고 스케줄이 거의 살인적이던데ㅜㅜ

@@1oneMIND 쇼팽콩쿨우승으로 세계원탑 인지도는 확보했으니 본인의 스타일대로 다양한 시도 해봄직하네요

성진씨 19분-20분사이 표정이 급안좋아졌네요 일반인이 들어도 당황스러운데 얼마나당황스러웠을지...하지만 그는 4년후 쇼팽콩쿨을 씹어삼키셨죠 ~~오랜만에 또들으러왔는데 전 이때연주도 감동이밀려와요

눈물나네요 이거 차별인가요? 뭔가요? ㅡㅜ

@@June-Storm 맞아요. 무대 찢었죠 ㅎㅎ

Catherine Jones The birth year of this pianist is 1994. By the way, this orchestra is not that great. Shame on them.

I absolutely agree. Even the great maestro Gianandrea Noseda said in the Barbican Centre interview on 03/28/19, "He is one of the greatest today even though he is young. . ."

Trifonov, yeol eum and cho are all fantastic, level was incredible that year. They are all winners

+Ivan Costa Pinto That's exactly what I am looking for from him. Pure artistic virtuosity, not by the home ground market size etc, would make him as good as Kissin , Zimmerman, Ashkenazy.

He is one of the "intelligent" pianists who use their intellects and minds rather than just finger muscles and flashy showmanship. Very rare especially amongst pianists from Asia. He is in a different league than some of the pianists who rode out their fame with a circus.

and now he is winner of 17th(2015) International Fryderyk Chopin Piano Competition( 1st Prize )

The winner of this Russian held competition was a nameless Russian pianist. Shame on Communism. Have you guys seen the winner winning other international competitions?

​@@rjkim5000 I believe that getting a 3rd place at Chopin competition(1 year prior to Tchaikovsky 2011) and playing tons of recitals every year is not the definition of nameless. Up to you, though.

Rj Kim cho shouldve won, but no discredit to trifonov whatsoever

Mount Choco Trifinov is pretty good too, so he deserved it! Both Daniil Trifinov and Seong Jin Cho are 2 of my favorite pianists!!😀

fanniandwa

very impressed ..from this time he should've become famous..even though prior to Chopin.

Jenny R Why not watching Cho's performance at the age 14 at the Hamamatz Competition? When he competed most contestants in 20s. Indeed extraordinary!!!

Был бы он росиянином не было бы проблем

Indeed!!😄😄

Xiao Qin and he got 1st prize in Poland and then he was 21

Yeol Eum Son took 2nd prize and she's amazing also!

Yes. right.

Junnieahn But only at 10,he said that in an interview, he started playing seriously.

형아 방가워 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

Same

+한명희 동감! 근데요 4년전 연주가 더 좋다면 문제 아닌가요? ^.^

+kojosun 님들 귀가 이상할 수 있음

문지는 잘 모르겠지만 차이코프스키의 라인에 들어간 것만은 확실하게 보이네요. 어메이징!

아마 곡 자체가 더 강해서 그럴게에요 ㅎㅎㅎ

몇분이요?

권도영 19분 41초에 플룻 들어와야되는데 못들어오고 헤매다 47초쯤에 들어옴ㅉㅉ

ㅋㅋ저 플루티스트 기억해요 ㅋㅋ하도 삑사리도 많이 내고, 제 박자에 못들어오고 해서 완전 기억해요ㅋㅋ 2011년에 보면서 낙하산인가 생각했었다는 ㅋㅋ 다른 사람들 공연에서도 실수 엄청했던걸로 기억해요.

저기 어떻게 들어갔는지 참 ...ㅋㅋ

YA Hwa

플룻 표정봐선 그냥 대실수인 듯

그따위로 해라잉. 잘 해라잉. 똑바로 맞춰 들어와라잉. 눈으로

+Caroline Park correction. Methinks it's Rubinstein Competition in May, 2014. May 2015 was when he was busy auditioning in the Chopin Comp. preliminary.^^

대~~~단하다!!! 브라보♥~

아 드뎌 한국말 보네. 무슨일인가 했어요.^^;

ㅅㅂ. 나도 욕 하고 가겠음

불합격

댓글에도 외국인들이 개최국이 러시아라서 그런거라고 난리네요.. 국밥도 이렇게 근본없이 말아먹진 않을듯 ㅠㅠ

그게 나중에 당신 콩쿠르에서 우승해서 더욱 유명해지기 위한 빅 픽쳐였답니다. 성진 군은 다 계획이 있었던거죠. ㅎㅎ

@@bbockHY 와ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 비유가 참...개 웃기다ㅋㅋ

bbockHY 국밥 의외로 근본있는 음식임;;