Serious Iron-Body Demonstration (Okinawan Karate)

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Serious Iron-Body Demonstration (Okinawan Karate)

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An iron-body demonstration showing the result of specialized Okinawan Karate training. Kiko techniques are Okinawan exercises used in "old style" karate. They are essentially the Ryukyu version of Iron Body Qi-gong (chi-gung). Ekkin-kiko (tendon-change) and Senzui-kiko (marrow-washing) are the basis of the Okinawan variants of "Iron Shirt" and "Golden Bell Cover" training.
This demonstration shows some of the the results of this training allowing one to painlessly absorb full power blows to vital areas without even the slightest damage.
Information about Okinawan Kiko training: ryukyuma.blogsp...
I posted a little about my background in the Ryukyu martial arts on my new blog: ryukyuma.blogsp...

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@thecontemplative2 11 жыл бұрын

I’ve done many such demonstrations and have suffered no ill effects. No damage or even pain (beyond the skin stinging a bit). The training works, the blows do not even cause bruising. I think the value of this training is self-evident.

@nyaruko-do2ok 4 жыл бұрын

You should make a book or DVD explaining how to do this training so that if you die this knowledge isn't lost

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

Part 3 of the answer: As I take blows I create a type of expansive postural tension called gyame, and an expansive internal pressure as if inflating a basket ball. At the same time I visualized the ki exploding and imploding through my body in conjunction with exhalation and inhalation of the breath.

@SenseiEli 5 жыл бұрын

1. This is amazing. 2. Don't try this at home. 3. Should I like it? Looks crazy! 4. The teacher has one of the most eye oppening videos about Karate , lucky for me that I saw them many years ago! Ryan Parker Sensei, arigato gozaimasu!

@thecontemplative2 13 жыл бұрын

This demo was a lot of fun. They are always better when you get some really good strikers (and in Tom Valesky's case also a good joint-locker). Andrew can really hit as well. I forget the name of the young man wearing a pair of shorts but he really kicked hard. The kick to my knee at 1:16 made such a horrible sound that people had looks of horror and disbelief on their faces. Thanks to everyone who hit me and made this demo so much fun and so interesting.

@TheCanon66 9 жыл бұрын

Most "Iron body" demonstrations I see aren't that impressive. And some are just plain fishy... But you are obviously getting hit really hard in some very vulnerable places. You have succeeded in amazing me, good sir.

@jharju2352 8 жыл бұрын

When in doubt, watch Morio Higaonna test his students' Sanchin.

@nyaruko-do2ok 4 жыл бұрын

@@jharju2352 I've watched a couple of those but they don't look impressive or convincing like this video do you have any link to any impressive demos?

@nattybynature1262 4 жыл бұрын

The one that really impressed me was the back of the head. I've been mugged and got hit there, your lights should be flickering with every shot you take 😂 really solid demonstration

@gekiryudojo 11 жыл бұрын

I first watching I must admit it is very impressive I have been doing Martial arts for 41 years but never seen any thing like that in all those years.

@thecontemplative2 11 жыл бұрын

The process is a very graduated one that involves different levels of techniques and training methods that extend over about a 3 year process. I began experimenting with taking blows after around one year (or perhaps it was about a year and a half). Breath control, visualization and intention training, progressive impact conditioning and postural/muscular training are all addressed at pretty much all of the sequential levels of training (the training is progressively more complex/difficult).

@combatives 9 жыл бұрын

This is great! True "iron body" conditioning. You remind me of myself with the ability to take on punishing blows...it is necessary to "take it in "not just "give it out". Osu!

@joeritremio2724 5 жыл бұрын

Good demonstration, unlike most other western video's on this subject. You are right up there with the shaolin warrior monks;)

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if I adequately answered you question. I had conditioned my shins and forearms, but had done very little impact conditioning of the rest of my body. I mainly practiced various breathing exercises and using kata (Naihanchi mainly) as kiko.

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

See part 3 of my answer. All kiko methods involve three levels, physical posture, breath control, and visualization and/or intent, . Body, breath, and mind. All three are important.

@samirberardo 11 жыл бұрын

Really impressive, Ryan-sensei. I wish I had some great instructor like you who I could train with. As I don't have one, I need to take all that I can from the great material you and other great sensei offer to us all over the world. Thank you very much, one more.

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

When I was first learning I could only protect one spot at a time and would bruise if they missed the target area. Later I learned to protect the whole body at the same time. I never had any injuries besides the bruising I mentioned above. When I first was learning, solar plexus and groin hits would cause pain if my confidence wavered. After a few months, my confidence increased and pain was never again an issue.

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

PS. I really wish I had gotten a bone density test right before beginning the serious senzui kiko because I am subjectively quite certain that there have been big gains in the density and strength of my bones. It would be nice to have objective measurements to verify that perception. The changes in the soft tissues are fairly obvious and several friends (who didn't know about the new training regimens) have commented on the difference.

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

I never claimed Iron-shirt creates invincibility. I do claim I can take any strike you throw to anywhere below my chin. That is not invincibility but it is damn advantageous. You're welcome to prove me wrong. Come hit me and hurt me tough guy.

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

Thank for the comment. I recently began doing serious marrow washing kiko training (I've dabbled over the years but not seriously). I noticed improvement in skin tone, muscle tone, and an increase in weight within weeks of starting. I also started some Hojo-undo (which is derived from Chinese hard Qi-Gongs) and noticed additional gains in muscle tone quite quickly. I started this new training to stave off age related physical decline. So far I'm pretty impressed with the effects. :-)

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

Typically you will need to know that some kind attack is coming (but you don't need to know where). At first active visualization is required but after a while it just becomes a feeling you put into your body. It can be done faster than the time it takes to do a parry with you hand. So, it is very applicable to self defense. If you don't know the attack is coming you will still have increased resistance to damage but not the same level.

@SP-kx3xm 9 жыл бұрын

That is very impressive! Much respect! Thanks for posting.

@thecontemplative2 11 жыл бұрын

PS in the video description there is a link to my "seminar reviews" where you can read firsthand accounts of the participants trying their hardest to damage my knees, trachea, testicles and many many other weak areas. Notice that they are quite certain and quite clear about what parts of my body the actually hit

@thecontemplative2 11 жыл бұрын

As I said, there is a gradual training process that works on many levels at the same time. But I think you might be more interested in what I do at the most of impact. I adopt correct posture (which is ideally- somewhat- rooted), exhale while maintaining a pressurized feeling, try to expand or inflate my body, visualize energy exploding through my body from the tanden, and adopt a belief/intention that I will make my body indestructible (but obviously it isn't actually totally indestructible).

@thecontemplative2 11 жыл бұрын

The blows are to the groin not inner thighs. In both my demonstration videos I ask them to use hand blows in addition to kicks so they can verify my testicle are external to my body and that they are being directly impacted. You can hear them verify this on the videos The blows in both videos are clearly to the trachea not upper chest. I invited total strangers to hit me anywhere below the chin with any strikes they wanted. I look forward to seeing your video demonstrating the same abilities.

@evergray 8 жыл бұрын

As someone who had to get an ACL replacement... how do? D:

@kentcheck9 12 жыл бұрын

I read about Ryan's demonstrations almost 20 years ago on Usenet and wished I had been there, so I'm delighted that these are posted on KZfaq. Please keep posting, Ryan. Actually I find all your stuff interesting (I'm a physicist intrigued by, among other things, martial arts and Buddhism). Have you posted about the health benefits you have obtained from kiko training?

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

The training is more oriented to strengthening the body rather than "deadening" parts. Firmly tapping the body with special implements IS part of the training but there are a lot of other elements too. I'm not sure how well the individual elements of the training work by themselves. I suspect it is one of those "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts" sort of things.

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

Directing the visualized ki is *part* of Iron Body training so this not an either or question. I believe what you are really asking is: "is this the result of impact conditioning". Impact conditioning is part of chi-gung/qi-gong/kiko practice and it is one of the methods used for directing ki. However, I had done very little impact conditioning at the time of this demonstration. I was not yet doing much marrow washing. I do practice marrow washing now and impact conditioning is inherent.

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

A few hundred words/phrases in Nihongo, a several dozen in Uchinaguchi. A little history where relevant to the history of the art such as the impact of the Minamoto/Taira conflict on Ryukyu Bujutsu, the influence of the Sapposhi, links between historically significant individuals and locations (ie Uni Uhugushuku and Chibana castle etc), the Fuzhou Ryukyukan (1872-1945) and so on. Culturally I'm limited to things like traditional medicine and Okinawan norms for polite behavior etc

@thecontemplative2 11 жыл бұрын

Trendy is rarely also substantive. Actual martial artists (including -serious- MMA people) have little concern over trends, fads, and internet flame wars. They're too busy training...

@NYWAORCANZ 11 жыл бұрын

I am not a doctor however in Russian Systema we do sometime very simular.We hit and kick each other alot. However we stay away from kicking the knee joint.I would not recommend that. However with that said I have found you can take big hits by being very relaxed and peaceful and you use your breathing to control pain and release pain. Concider this,what do you folks tell people to do in the hospitals.You tell them to remain calm and relaxed and to breath.

@GG1X 12 жыл бұрын

Increíble!!!!!!!! Como ganarle a alguien que aguanta golpes en los puntos más débiles del cuerpo?

@muscleapprentice7788 3 жыл бұрын

Hello sensei. Is it true you recommend using bundles of bags or beans to condition the bones, as opposed to punching hitting or kicking trees or walls?

@chrischriss2371 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Mr. Parker, do you have give your inner energy work as lessons available somewhere like a tutorial or book or something? I want to learn this for my karate way and inner development. ? Thank you

@LucasHenrique-it2io 4 жыл бұрын

the iron body technques is learned in Shuri-te (Shorin ryu Line)? or its Naha-te ( Goju ryu line)?

@ryanclark2017 9 жыл бұрын

practicioners are wearing themselves out trying to hurt you haha. I am no where close to this, huge respect!

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

Ideally the practice improves health and longevity, but some real care needs to be exercised as the training could lead to injury if done wrong or if one tries to take blows before you're ready.

@Falconbridge9 11 жыл бұрын

When some of those mediocre MMA guys or any of the endless shallow new age hybrid styles make video and upload it on you tube there is suddenly 100's of thousands views together with bunch of "deep" comments comparing MMA to all other "inferior" traditional styles.. How come none of those "Knowledgeable" people dont watch/comment or "debunk" this vid. ? Rare few commit themselves and dedicate their lives to achieve degree of Understanding such as this Individuum did and this IS Iron Robe !

@mikefuchs-sb8pv Жыл бұрын

where do you teach? most excellent!

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

there are a lot of question there. With the limits youtube places on replies it will take forever to answer the all. I'll PM you an email address that you can use. I'm happy to discuss my training and offer my opinions about other methods that people use (which may or may not be well informed)

@Legendarywushi 8 жыл бұрын

Hello mr Parker, I'm wondering what exactly your routine was to gain resistance to groin shots?and if I were to do them, would there be any negative side effects?

@spiritualinsight 10 жыл бұрын

Have you had Kyusho jutsu or pressure points tried on this iron body technique?

@thecontemplative2 10 жыл бұрын

Yes I have, including having some folks who are quite gifted in that skill-set try their techniques. The results were no different.

@NYWAORCANZ 11 жыл бұрын

You have to understand this take practice and you need respectful partners to practice this. and it is NOT just breathing.With out breathing we could not live natcurally.Correct breathing is not new age mumble jumble it is at the very core of being able to do things like this.So many people in martial arts worry about the best tricks when in fact they should be worrying about "just breathing".It is at the very core of self defence Also , you need to be relaxed and calm and confident

@grimmwood1241 9 жыл бұрын

Care to share how to achieve body durability like that?

@jharju2352 8 жыл бұрын

It's recommended to study the concept known as "iron body conditioning". It involves countless drills.

@KennyCosway 7 жыл бұрын

What is the height and weight of the sensei being hit?

@thecontemplative2 11 жыл бұрын

I find it funny that you single out the knee as the target to avoid as it is one of the few that would never be fatal. The worst that would happen would be a very bad (and permanent) limp. The trachea, base of the skull, spine, liver, kidneys (and I've been told even the groin) could potentially be fatal. This requires special training and involves more than just "breathing through the pain". Please don't try this at home kids.

@NYWAORCANZ 11 жыл бұрын

........your mind.That is aside from slowing building up your ability to with stand the blow what are you visualization techniques? are you rooting the leg into the ground? as for us we learn to take the hit through breathing and slightly aquising to take away the force in the manner of how you catch a fast thrown baseball, your glove hand gives a little to take away the sting and power of the ball yes, I do realise you need very manner respectful people to practice this technique

@hotpopcorncake 11 жыл бұрын

In kyokushin class we do this for sparring, except for the nuts shot

@Falconbridge9 11 жыл бұрын

In a way, I feel responsible to say the truth and to, at least, try and spread some of the knowledge which is not in-boxed, instant, westernized, hybridized and if it leads, or even just trigger out-of-the box thinking process in any individuum I am happy with it and I feel like I havent waste time on it. I know I would be grateful if I had anybody in my youth who would show me the path which is not commercialized or pulluted with sport/competition or nowdays 2years-to-black-belt schools/scams

@TheManofsorrows 6 жыл бұрын

strongest Karate Man

@Falconbridge9 11 жыл бұрын

yes, I mean thats what I was trying to say and often repeat it, specially about herd/crowd mentality and trends. But in all honesty dear Ryan MMA by itself is a trend and its really hard to enter into any kind of serious conversation about traditional e.g. Chinese arts when there no real masters or at least committed disciples (let alone teachers)...and only source of inf. is e.g Joe Rogan and his general disgust/prejudice with traditional arts.

@UGURKAZIM 12 жыл бұрын

madness, really crazy

@NYWAORCANZ 11 жыл бұрын

So you are taking shot to your groin? I do have experince taking low kick and even how to move my leg out of the way of low kicks.This is because Ihurt my knee years ago and so I am not keen on tempting fate with a side of the knee strike.I will say I am very impressed with that. However, with the body and face I am very use to taking strikes.I have been hit by Martin Wheeler and his hits felt like a cannon ball. Aside from correct breathing what is going through..........

@metalheaddudeperson 9 жыл бұрын

how effective is it when your taking strikes to areas where only muscle is exposed to direct contact not bone? or organ strikes?

@k14michael 8 жыл бұрын

+Glenn Reuther you didn't see the strikes to his kidneys and neck (front and back)?

@jharju2352 8 жыл бұрын

+k14michael Exactly. Or the beginning where he's taking some heavy kicks to the side of his knee, I had a very hard time watching that.

@thecontemplative2 8 жыл бұрын

+Shine On You Crazy Diamond Actually, to be totally honest, I also cringe a bit (when watching this video of me taking blows to the knees, knowing full well just how hard those blows were). That said, I suffered absolutely no damage whatsoever in these demos... however absurd that may seem to the uninitiated (who don't grasp the training involve)d. This is equally true whether it is mainly bone or muscle that is mainly exposed to the attack.

@jharju2352 8 жыл бұрын

+Ryan Parker Indeed! People whose knowledge on martial arts is limited to spectating ring sports have NO IDEA what kind of work and effort is required for body conditioning.

@thecontemplative2 12 жыл бұрын

Right, the guy with an open offer to demonstrate his abilities and who has posted video footage of those abilities is the charlatan. Not the guy who has demonstrated nothing, has posted no videos of his own martial skills and who hurls insults from behind the safety of a computer. Luckily I know folks are smart enough to know which one of is is nothing but hot air.

@TheManofsorrows 4 жыл бұрын

Karate Superman!!!!

@NYWAORCANZ 11 жыл бұрын

Personally I am able to take hits to the body and legs very easy due to my training.However, yes the side of the knee does scare me as it is a place where there is no muscle and very little body fat and an From my experince joints can be broken quite easily.But that is my experince. As for the groin it seemed more like an inner thigh which I have experince taking as well as for the neck shot or upper chest,I have experince with that as well. I agree, kids should not try this

@moonbar33 12 жыл бұрын

Wow its painful just watching!! Have you ever been hurt?

@witri9 12 жыл бұрын

Somebody has trained quite a bit. Oos!

@pepiyobudoka5486 6 жыл бұрын

What style of karate is this?

@thecontemplative2 6 жыл бұрын

This is just Okinawan karate... By which I mean that "styles" are (IMHO) much less important than "approaches"... When I filmed this video, I had mainly trained in Shorin-ryu [including a branch of Shorin-ryu called "Ryukyu Kempo"]. Shorin-ryu is a mix of Suidi along with some Tumaidi. I had also trained to some degree in Goju-ryu. Goju-ryu is essentially a form of Nafadi. That said, Goju-ryu's approach has been significantly influenced by Suidi. When filming this video I had adopted training methods from both Shorin-ryu cand Goju-ryu. When I say "approach" is more important than "style", I specifically mean the "old style" approach to karate versus the modern ("shin-budo") approach. Any style which is sufficiently grounded in the roots of Okinawan karate can adopt the "old style" approach relatively seamlessly. ryukyuma.blogspot.com/2012/01/old-style-karate-top-12-ways-it-differs.html

@user-vs3bq5ld8e 8 жыл бұрын

😨😨😨😨

@cesar25415 7 жыл бұрын

no golpean bien, los keris y los tzukis son débiles..

@gekiryudojo 11 жыл бұрын

Looks a novel way to destroy your own body!

@Falconbridge9 11 жыл бұрын

why would he try any sort of competition ? Majority of people today stay on that teenage-dreams level of understanding and dont seem they have the ability to grasp that there are people out there which dont care at all for fame, wealth, glory or any similar type of material gain.. "try UFC if it is real" lol , what a shallow and completely empty, dumb and unaware "advice"

@Falconbridge9 11 жыл бұрын

Yes and we in Uechi as well (specially during Sanchin testing) but if you are claiming you are trying to destroy your sparring partners throats, knees, kidney's etc. in Kyokushin as your normal sparring then it is just a lie. I respect Kyokushin and I have many good friends which are from Kyokushin and which developed great pain tolerance as well as their muscles/tendons and bones but it is just not true that you are doing same as this person is doing in any exercise let alone sparring.

@pressloh Жыл бұрын

Nooooooo....not good for bones !!!! Alert....

@SootyPhoenix 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, as impressive as this is, things like this can only be achieved by methods that cause considerable damage to some bodily systems. (As do all forms of extreme training. If developing abilities like this didn't come with downsides, our bodies would develop them without training, as long as we had the nutrients. The same goes for having extreme strength and/or huge muscles; one has to force one's body to develop such abilities against its will, since they shorten one's life span.)

@pressloh 7 ай бұрын

@@SootyPhoenix ok, schmerzen in schulter und rücken, etc. Sind die antwort im alter ab 60 jahren

@Falconbridge9 11 жыл бұрын

frustrated, uninformed, shallow, limited and really sad.

@ryanclark2017 9 жыл бұрын

practicioners are wearing themselves out trying to hurt you haha. I am no where close to this, huge respect!

@ryanclark2017 9 жыл бұрын

practicioners are wearing themselves out trying to hurt you haha. I am no where close to this, huge respect!