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Seriously NEXT LEVEL - Bambulab X1 Carbon (3D printer)

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@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 2 жыл бұрын
ATTENTION! There seems to be someone answering your comments doing a fake giveaway in my name! THIS IS A SCAM AND NOT ME! Don't reply and don't send this person money for shipping!
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes 2 жыл бұрын
scammers are active in the comments
@Catofbaskerville
@Catofbaskerville 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@matneu27
@matneu27 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I lost my single like on my comment by removing the scammers 😜
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes 2 жыл бұрын
@@matneu27 Have one on me!
@MostlyInteresting
@MostlyInteresting 2 жыл бұрын
Those guys in the cryptoscamers and all that are all over KZfaq, and for some reason KZfaq doesn't seem to be able to do anything about it. Which makes no sense to me.
@BH4x0r
@BH4x0r 2 жыл бұрын
this device actually looks professional compared to 99% of the other printers at this price point
@justinweatherford8129
@justinweatherford8129 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but it is still in the kickstarter phase, so one can't even buy one yet and who knows what the quality and price would actually be when it becomes available to buy.
@michael.knight
@michael.knight 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I have a Prusa but I always thought it looked like an extremely well executed hobby product. This looks like a professional machine.
@rynnjacobs8601
@rynnjacobs8601 2 жыл бұрын
This printer might be a real problem for companies like ultimaker. (which next to this printer, looks like a overpriced craft solution)
@thegarageluthier
@thegarageluthier 2 жыл бұрын
@@michael.knight Prusa are open source reprap project machines so were always going to look like that its why people bought them in the first place? There are different markets and if Prusa wanted to now with its financial clout could produce the same but it would take it away from its reprap heritage.
@kimmotoivanen
@kimmotoivanen 2 жыл бұрын
What other printers (aside Prusa) are there at this price point? I can't name any :/
@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 2 жыл бұрын
My God this is impressive. As a systems engineering….. I dream about shit like this and the years it takes to come up with, design, and troubleshoot systems like this. This is absolutely brilliant and I hope nothing but success for them!
@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 2 жыл бұрын
There’s just no way that this hits the market with all of the specified features and quality for $1500. If that happens I will absolutely be amazed they must be running it like a nonprofit charity. Seriously if they absolutely conquer their goals and become a reliable source… This will be thrown prusa…. no doubt
@hullinstruments
@hullinstruments 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just stunned
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
Hear hear!
@martylawson1638
@martylawson1638 2 жыл бұрын
@@hullinstruments Just look at all the tech in a $1500 DJI drone. There is a way to make boat loads of profit on the X1 as shown. (though it may require more sales volume than Bambu Labs can get in the first years)
@fly380
@fly380 2 жыл бұрын
​@@hullinstruments Excellent software, algorithm, design and manufacturing and supply chain design achieve this goal
@MAYERMAKES
@MAYERMAKES 2 жыл бұрын
Little correction, you don't invest on KS, you donate to the project. That's a key difference regarding liability.
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 2 жыл бұрын
you essentially preorder. legally most countries don't have donating in exchange of promise of a product as concept separate from buying. anyway you can pledge money to the project without anything in exchange or make a pledge in exchange for promise of getting the product. there is more than "oh well the money is gone" with kickstarter, but if a company is belly up the company is belly up, but it's not like a company can just say that they had a headache and not ship and keep the money and keep operating. the kickstarters a formality... they've sent units to basically everyone on youtube now. those vids and this video are legally 'paid' promotion because the product was received from them, influencer marketing regulations wise.
@MegaMaking
@MegaMaking 2 жыл бұрын
@@lasskinn474 nope, it is not a preorder. preorder guarantee that you get the product on the delivery date or else they will need to refund. donation is the right word, you will or will not get what you donated to.
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 2 жыл бұрын
@@MegaMaking there is a vat/tax, a payment and a promise of spending the money to deliver a product. Its a preorder with a flexible delivery date, kickstarter never refers to anything as a donation instead you pledge to pay when the ks closes. Besides for most countries what it is being referred to doesn't change consumer laws. When ks says on their rules that you're not preordering its qualified that you're not preordering an existing product. The companies can also get sued for fraud by state. You can also sue a company for not delivering the promised reward that was promised in exhange for money. Often there isn't any legal instance to sue for the money unless you can show that the creator just embezzled the money and didn't spend it on trying to deliver - it is extrmely easy however to spend the ks money legally as wages to yourself or such and that just leaves the isolated llc to sue and they'll be bankrupt, exactly same as if you preordered a product and they went bankrupt while holding your money from a normal website. And yes people and companies have been sued for not delivering. You're under same risk when ordering basically anything though the company could go belly up before they deliver what you ordered. You can also issue a chargeback but often the promised delivery dates are way after a chargeback period. Like, look, if you could just sell stuff in exchange of a donation everyone would do that. University guilds and such often do that but it doesn't actually change running an underground bar into being legal. Much like calling a ponzi scheme a blessing circle where you make a donation doesn't make it legal because it was a 'donation' given in exchange of receiving donations. So anyway, if you run a KS scam better to form some asian hard to investigate llc to do it so it's harder for anyone to sue you if you fail delivering after paying yourself most of the money as interest for a loan you signed for the company. Point is that legally they're on the hook to deliver the product or you can sue them, practicalities of suing an american company or a dude being a lot easier than some wish scammer.
@ZenithWest169
@ZenithWest169 2 жыл бұрын
@lass kinn I was going to argue that it is indeed a donation, but you two are both correct and just arguing over semantics (how you each personal view the word donation/pre-order to mean given context)... Personally i think donation is an acceptable description as there have been several KS campaigns that failed to deliver. No the companies were not sued or faced legal issues but even though they promised if you donate X money you get this, it's only under the stipulation that if they get the project working do you get it. Invest is probably the better term and yes pre-order is a term that could be used to (depending on how trustful you are on the campaign you are backing). In my mind, if you donate (give) money to a politicians campaign and they promise let's say student loan forgiveness if elected president, I wouldn't use the term "I pre-ordered student loan forgiveness" because honestly I don't trust politicians and anything they say. If you are more trustful of the campaign then yes as odd as it sounds pre-ordering student loan forgiveness does make sense. But the meaning behind donation/pre-order is based on how you view an organization (the more trustworthy the more pre-order seems correct and donation seems incorrect). But this is a pointless argument on semantics and different people view words and meanings differenttly.
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZenithWest169 ks has a working prototype stipulation so if the tech doesn't work is faked it becomes fraud already.. Its quite easy as a company to just dump the money and run though. Indiegogo doesn't have the already developed stipulation and laxer rules for the projects to explain where the money went(although ks can do little to force the companies explain the breakdown of where money went despite it being in the rules) Ofc its best to approach it as a gamble of sorts. Also for a non igg/ks example of possibility of not getting a refund even if explicitly promised the preorder cash wouldn't be touched by the company see the amico fiasco. (This is for physical products, games and such have different rules on ks) Edit: safest way to preorder is through a local retailer you think wont go bankrupt such as gamestop or whatever, although who knows about gamestop, who are on hook to refund you regardless if their supplier goes bankrupt
@SquishyThing
@SquishyThing Жыл бұрын
Had this machine for a month or 2 now and I love it. The quality even on ludicrous mode is unmatched.
@MitchM240
@MitchM240 2 ай бұрын
Fun looking back at this a year later. X1 Carbon is still king!
@marsgizmo
@marsgizmo 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent highlights Stefan 👏 I also think this one will finally push the innovation level in our community!
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
And LOOOONG overdue!
@joemulkerins5250
@joemulkerins5250 Жыл бұрын
If it was true..
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat Жыл бұрын
@@joemulkerins5250 It's out. It does what it claims.
@Jwmbike14
@Jwmbike14 Жыл бұрын
It's been 6 months, we have heard in several of your videos that you use this as your daily workhorse. Would you mind doing a 6 month review at this point? I think a lot of people would appreciate it!
@isaac242
@isaac242 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! A 6 month later video would be great to see. It would be interesting to hear after the firmware updates they have done and if the carbon rods are wearing out prematurely? (Or any other part for that matter)
@MegaWillbot
@MegaWillbot 2 жыл бұрын
A team of master engineers designing an entire printer from the ground up is a beautiful thing
@lspostma
@lspostma 2 жыл бұрын
"Nothing on this printer is half-assed..." That is the best phrase used for a 3D printer I think I have ever heard. Awesome review. I am seriously tempted to get in on this Kick-start campaign just to play with it. Maybe I could finally get into multi-material or multi-color printing. Carbon would be my choice with the MMS option.
@shelbyseelbach9568
@shelbyseelbach9568 2 жыл бұрын
Not a review.😉
@CookieManCookies
@CookieManCookies Жыл бұрын
Not a review, it's a $1200 paid advertisement. Make sure to call em up for the 100% off cnc kitchen discount. :)
@brightnovastar
@brightnovastar 2 жыл бұрын
I backed this printer... let me state that first. However I don't feel it's fair to say Prusa doesn't innovate. Nearly every printer out is a clone of the Prusa, and they like Apple or android make small iterations and grow their business over time. That being said... the Bambi lab X1 carbon blew me away... all the features are just overwhelming... I'm so happy they are positioning themselves to be the next standard. In 10 years we will look and see many clones of this printer... because if manufacturers like Creality or Elegoo don't respond, they will be forgotten. Great video as always! I love your content.
@aronseptianto8142
@aronseptianto8142 2 жыл бұрын
i think for once, this printer will be hard to clone, especially since so much of the magic sauce is in the software
@hanspeter9636
@hanspeter9636 2 жыл бұрын
10 years ? Lol. Look what comes around in 2 years MAX.
@brightnovastar
@brightnovastar 2 жыл бұрын
@@hanspeter9636 you’re right… couple years max.
@zebarzebra
@zebarzebra 2 жыл бұрын
@@aronseptianto8142 The main reason is that the printer just isn't open source while Prusas are open source. Of course it is easyer to copy a machine if you are first of all aloud to and have all the plans and the software. I personally wouldn't go for that printer, because I personally really value the open source approach of prusa. It did soooo much for the 3d printing community. I totally understand that not everyone values open source as much as I do which is fine of course.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere 2 жыл бұрын
Guess this finally shows what you should get with Prusas price tag. Those machines are 10 years behind.
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Prusa has been riding their "reliability" and name for waaay too long.
@dammitcoetzee
@dammitcoetzee Жыл бұрын
Idk, they’re really really reliable lol. I think I hit 3000hours without a failed print on one of mine.
@tarui
@tarui Жыл бұрын
The only 2 issues I have is size of the print bed and lack of larger nozzles.
@zkittlesbutbetter
@zkittlesbutbetter Жыл бұрын
@@dammitcoetzee please tell me how. My extruder broke within 5 months
@robertgcode965
@robertgcode965 Жыл бұрын
The MK3 was ahead of its game even 5 years ago. Old review videos are good proof. But yeah, China has begun to bring cutting edge tech down to a low-cost consumer level.
@LAF_23
@LAF_23 2 жыл бұрын
Holy whit i would have guessed 4 times the price tag. This is mad! I really hope they pull this off and therefore raise the stakes within the 3d printer market
@MihaiDesigns
@MihaiDesigns 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome detailed video as always. Thank you for your hard work, Stefan! 🤘
@JoeStoffa
@JoeStoffa 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll buy one as soon as it’s available to ship from their website. This printer will complement my Method-X perfectly (the Method-X’s heated chamber allows me to print large PC parts at 95% infill with perfect flatness and the DEX setup means that I don’t have to watch $170/kg support filament get pooped out the back end of the machine). What this machine will give me over the Method-X is speed, build size, and a not-terrible software experience. I expect this machine will perform all my printing outside of large solid pieces in warp prone materials. I’ll order an AMS if it can be modified to fit Prusa and 3DXTech spools.
@jonhaze7537
@jonhaze7537 2 жыл бұрын
Almost bought a Method-X Carbon before I decided on my Prusa. Thank God, I dodged that bullet lmao
@JoeStoffa
@JoeStoffa 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing matches a heated chamber for solid prints in warp prone materials. The Method-X gets a bad rep, but if you NEED large prints with 95% infill in warp prone materials then it’s the most cost-effective choice.
@caramelzappa
@caramelzappa 2 жыл бұрын
Bambu really took everything from the voron and overall open source community and combined it with their dji manufacturing experience to make this. Full credit goes to all the tinkerers that did everything before Bambu, but Bambu is certainly turning the industry on it's head by integrating these ideas into a consumer printer at a good price.
@michaellim6292
@michaellim6292 2 жыл бұрын
No Voron has Lidar
@caramelzappa
@caramelzappa 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaellim6292 Lidar has been played with by the open source and voron community a bit, but certainly no one has a solution like the bambus for lidar. While it is a flashy feature, personally I think it's a tiny part of what makes the Bambu what it is, the majority is the overall corexy, triple lead screw design. What the lidar does is make tuning pressure advance automatic (and for some reason, every print instead of once) Good feature, but not world changing.
@michaellim6292
@michaellim6292 2 жыл бұрын
@@caramelzappa I think it is the entire package. Combining the best parts of what has gone before with refinement of cutting edge tech. Most home users use a variety of filaments from different suppliers, and taking the guess work out of flows and pressure advance with lidar is a definite plus. Home users cannot afford the wastage of test prints, most are happy to sacrifice automated calibration time for a consistent reliable good quality print. More automation will bring 3D printers closer to a commodity appliances like microwaves and air fryers. When Bambu bring out a fully assembled large format core XY printer, which is as reliable as the X1 and priced accordingly, people graduating from Creality and their clones will less likely take up a Voron or Prusa XL. The guys from DJI have learned the sweet spot of margin/volume of a finished, fully featured reasonable priced product the public want.
@playmaka2007
@playmaka2007 Жыл бұрын
Just received my X1c and it is truly awesome. So fast that videos don't do it justice. It has worked very well out of box. This machine exudes quality and polish and I am very happy with it. There have been a few small bugs: Using polyterra pla the default profile under extrudes by a small amount (this is an easily tuned software parameter in Bambu Studio). This was how I fixed the somewhat common X1 problem of top layer gaps. I have had a few errors where the Z axis failed to home and the printer thought the motors were overloaded. A recent firmware update appears to have fixed this. And I've had a few instances where the ams has pushed filament off the side of the spool when retracting and then when it tries to push that filament into the printer the ams binds up and asks for you to come fix it. In fairness this is with cardboard spools (which they don't recommend with the AMS). The included bed sticks WAY too well and gluestick is an absolute requirement, but you need to reapply very frequently. They sell a textured PEI bed on their site that I'm sure would address this, but you do need a bambulab bed because there is a special section of the bed that the X1 will clean it's nozzle against, so generic beds won't work. These small problems aside, this machine is lightyears ahead of anything else on the market and if you have the money I highly recommend it.
@shammyh
@shammyh 2 жыл бұрын
Literally been Googling for a more in depth look at how this thing works... And it's Stefan with the answer!! Thank you!!
@bozthescrewup410
@bozthescrewup410 2 жыл бұрын
I keep telling myself I need to stop watching X1 videos since I can’t afford it right now, but it just looks so good! Great video!
@bitsfornoobs5166
@bitsfornoobs5166 2 жыл бұрын
Saved the best for last! Excellent review. Every 3D printer manufacturer should be worried, starting with Prusa and their 8 bit boards. Everyone got complacent. If this doesn’t get you excited about 3D printing again I don’t know what can. The bar has been raised. Welcome BAMBU LABS! It can only get better from here!
@stuartfisher4210
@stuartfisher4210 2 жыл бұрын
The timing of this campaign can't have been very welcome in the Prusa camp, with the XL on pre-order. However, the XL has a larger bed and tool-changing, which might be more suitable for some people. It's also a proper pre-order and not a KS campaign, which will be a deal-breaker for a lot of people. Will be interesting to see how both the X1 and the XL fare in the next year or two.
@xxJohnxx77
@xxJohnxx77 2 жыл бұрын
@@stuartfisher4210 I have pre-ordered a PursaXL as well, and I am seriously considering to cancle that and wait for the X1 Carbon to hit the stores. I don't necessarily need the addtional size and with the shown capabilities it probably has the PrusaXL beat.
@bastiand.771
@bastiand.771 2 жыл бұрын
Backed it myself a few weeks ago after seeing how they're already able to deliver, and hope they are able to continue to do so with my and others backing! I have yet to purchase an FDM printer and only have a resin printer. Mostly I've been severely disappointed in setup times, unprofessional solutions, and overall print time of most of these extrusion printers. However, there are some applications where resin is not so great, namely having to deal with working around suction cupping on certain designs. Very excited to see you were able to receive one for an overview!
@tinkerershaven
@tinkerershaven 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, i never heard of someone starting out with an SLA printer, usually everyone goes with FDM!
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinkerershaven SLA is really good for making miniatures and models, it's an invaluable tool for some other hobbies and professions.
@tinkerershaven
@tinkerershaven 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Yeah, higher quality, didn't think about professional use cases.
@MetalheadAndNerd
@MetalheadAndNerd 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinkerershaven Especially someone with a resin printer stating that an FFF printer was too much hassle and prepare time. 🤯
@gabiold
@gabiold 2 жыл бұрын
@@MetalheadAndNerd Every technology has it's requirements and nuances, and it is a hassle until you familiarize yourself with the process AND gather all the tools you need for proper work.
@FedericoAlbano83
@FedericoAlbano83 2 жыл бұрын
I have backed it, and today I just heard all of my reasoning behind my choice inside this video! Well done as usual, and I am so glad to have the very same feeling of you, even though I haven't had the opportunity to try it. Thanks again for another great video!
@tenchuu007
@tenchuu007 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the kind of review I wanted! Especially that you mentioned passive cooling and the noise. So few creators discuss it! Vielen danke!
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
I'm massively noise sensitive. I'd really like to know how quiet - quiet mode is.
@tenchuu007
@tenchuu007 2 жыл бұрын
Mat, I have spent so much time, energy, and money converting my printers to be quieter, not always with good success.
@logitech4873
@logitech4873 2 жыл бұрын
@@Martial-Mat Expect it to be loud regardless due to the non-silent motors. This thing is all performance, not much silence.
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
@@tenchuu007 Do you have any environmental tips? I put mine on a fluffy bathroom towel and it helps a lot. I can sleep with it in the next room.
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
@@logitech4873 So they COULD have used quiet motors, but they went for economy instead?
@timschafer2536
@timschafer2536 2 жыл бұрын
If this machine delivers what it promises that would be amazing, but i hope it is friendly to modding/upgrading/repairing without too many proprietary parts. I really like the auto calibration part and hope that such a unit might be availble for other printers too maybe even open source.
@Brett5106
@Brett5106 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciate your feedback on this printer. I have backed this company with the X1 Carbon and AMS for July delivery. I really value your opinion and gives me that much more confidence in this machine. I hold heartily agree this is a serious wake up call to other companies. Thanks again Stefan.
@artemislost7134
@artemislost7134 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you directly tackled the comparison to Prusa and other similar market comps. I believe Prusa is a positive influence to the hobby however I’ve always been turned off by their price point compared to my perception of the build quality/materials. For only a slight price increase, Bambu by contrast offers what appears to be robust and well thought out construction & feature sets that provide some degree of future proofing in that I won’t be rushing out to buy the next mildly iterative product from another company. I’ve backed the X1 Carbon + AMS on day one and look forward to hopefully seeing Bambu deliver on the hardware and software fronts. I also chose to back the Anker M5 and I’m very much so looking forward to seeing how these both influence the greater market hopefully for the betterment of all involved in the hobby, prosumer, and small/medium business worlds.
@thegarageluthier
@thegarageluthier 2 жыл бұрын
Bambu is building on what Prusa and others have done and overcome for a decade or more, Borrowing all the ideas from the 3D printing community building your slicing software and firmware of of the hard work of others and bringing a machine to market with millions in backing before even starting a Kickstarter campaign maybe gives them a bit of a head start, Will it disrupt the market, yes. Is another competitor good, yes. Do they deserve some credit for the work they have done yes, but it is always easier after the hard work has been done.
@gabiold
@gabiold 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegarageluthier The question is, why the other companies like Prusa or Creality or others that flood the market, still produce the same not-so-advanced products? They had headstart since they are in the industry way before, but still fail to advance. Now this company made a proper product with the features that missing for years, and they did it with proper industrial engineering mindset!!! Selling an overpriced 3D printer, like Prusa is not innovation in my eyes. If it would have been made out of metal parts, rigid frame, modularity or anything professional, then I would say okay. But as long as zip ties holding the linear rails while others cloned it for 1/5th the price in metal, I should say that it is overpriced. As Stefan said (in reverse), there is always somethihg that is half-assed in other 3D printers, many times not just one thing, and many times it wouldn't even be more expensive to do it properly. I like hobby community and all, but I am an open-minded person who always want to improve. I don't have a full workshop with everything, like probably most of us, but I always try to somehow create proper parts with the tools I have and improve my skills. Half-assed is not an option for me. I am not shitting myself when I see a CAN bus or an USB connector, or a LQFP chip on a printhead, everything is learnable.
@thegarageluthier
@thegarageluthier 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabiold you do realize that just about everything you take for granted in 3d printing has been accomplished because of the hard work of others like Prusa? Flexible steel build plates, powdered coated PEI, temperature compensated level sensors, sensorless homing, all the firmware improvements for ease of operation through stepped setup. Duet and klipper and marlin for PA, for resonance compensation for core xy firmware implementation, for all the different levelling and tramming options and so many other things it's hard to count. But back to Prusa they have produced incremental upgrades over the years along with different advancements and then the SL1 and Prusa mini as well as the new XL and print farm system and software. Not to mention customer service and company growth along with all they have given back to the community.
@gabiold
@gabiold 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegarageluthier I didn't said I do not realize those, I said that those are there for years now, and they do not really improve anymore, the industry is still selling more or less the same bed swingers for several years now. And this product is a clear demonstration that there were a lot of things that can and should be improved. Why Prusa did not do it?
@gabiold
@gabiold 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegarageluthier I want to add that inventing something doesn't mean you are done for good. You have to improve continuously otherwise others will do, and you'll be out of business sooner or later. It won't take away what you have been invented, but if you slow down, others will be ahead of you. Not only Prusa can innovate. While it did, several years ago, a whole lot of others did too, and still doing this day. While it can make up a great excuse that "But I was the first!", nobody cares outside of history articles, most users just want a better, more capable product in the present. Just to mention an example, MirageC does way cooler developments, in bigger steps, while (I assume) he is on a lot smaller budget. Cars are invented centuries ago, but you probably don't want to choose an early model for commuting to work, isn't it?
@ManIkWeet
@ManIkWeet 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for going into some of the mechanical/electrical details, missed that from other reviews. Having the piezo sensors in the bed instead of the nozzle makes a lot of sense!
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
Why? Surely that means a lot more sensors and more parts to go wrong?
@LittleMonk102
@LittleMonk102 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Martial-Mat timestamp 4:30 - "This is very smart because it keeps the printhead very stiff"
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
@@LittleMonk102 Ahhh, excellent - cheers Zeb!
@GavinSeim
@GavinSeim 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. This looks cool. But a non-user replaceable nozzle is kind of a buzz kill. This seems so complicated that it's going to have problems and they did not build it with service in mind.
@paulogarcia1766
@paulogarcia1766 Жыл бұрын
They built the nozzle and block as one unit but it's not too expensive. It's only 15 dollars. Hopefully they dont jack up the prices in the future so I plan on buying a few spares right now while the price is cheap.
@amirhoseinaz1969
@amirhoseinaz1969 2 жыл бұрын
The FDM 3D printing industry haven't been in motion for a long time now, little tiny new features added to multiple devices but never a real game changer. Hopefully, starting from the next year this loop will break, with the new printers on the market actually having something new, the Prusa XL, the Anker 3d printer and now this, hopefully we can see some new and actually useful innovations in FDM 3D printing industry. Though I hope that the open-source spirit of the 3D printing community doesn't fade away with all these patented and mass produced devices, one of the most important things that's been pushing this community forward in my opinion is that our first priority now is actually working together for advancing this technology, not to just make some money and leave.
@honkhonk8009
@honkhonk8009 Жыл бұрын
Thing is, most people are fine with just an Ender3. For most purposes, an ender3 really can just get the job done. For any change to be put on the market, their gonna have to introduce all these features at the lowest price point they can. 3D printer owners arent exactly your average Macbook user, who are willing to spend $2k on a shitty i3 processor just cus "its easier". People are gonna value the modularity and hackability of their printers. This printer does so much stuff right honestly. But a cooler engineering challenge would be to make the cheapest most barebones no-nonsense 3D printer, that has all these features done in the cheapest way possible. Something like what Creality did with the Ender3. Imagine these same engineers going gung ho creating the most simplistic 3D printer possible with the most readily made and compatible parts. I still feel like 3D printers can become a hellavulot cheaper
@3DQue
@3DQue 2 жыл бұрын
Really happy to see innovation like this! 2022 is the year that 3D printing becomes smarter.
@Felix23401
@Felix23401 2 жыл бұрын
Look at this blue Beauty in the background!
@pizzablender
@pizzablender 2 жыл бұрын
This will definitely "kickstart" open source printer development. Such as the on head camera for bed leveling and flow calibration, and the under bed leveling sensors.
@fixerone1963
@fixerone1963 2 жыл бұрын
I backed this and went for the X1 Carbon with AMS. I currently own the original Creality Ender 3. I heavily modified this as far as I can. While I get great prints, I know there is better. This unit from Bambu Labs looks like the next jump in 3D printing. It's already set for the higher temps required filaments, so i can skip upgrading my Ender.....thank God. I'm getting tired of tearing the Ender apart and trouble shooting to get it right. These guys appear to have that solved. Thank Stefon for the excellent video. You are a great credit to the 3D Printing community. I'm sure many have benefited from your knowledge.
@JonS
@JonS 2 жыл бұрын
The "LIDAR" IS almost certainly a laser triangulation sensor. Low-cost LIDAR only has cm accuracy. Even high end LIDAR can't measure with tens of microns accuracy. It's the wrong tool for the job, whereas laser triangulation is the right tool.
@pizzablender
@pizzablender 2 жыл бұрын
They may need the triangulation lasers to do bed leveling. But the flow adjustment can for sure be done with a camera.
@reddcube
@reddcube 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this pressures Prusa to update their LCD board. A 20x4 character monocolor display is really oldschool.
@chromebook4488
@chromebook4488 2 жыл бұрын
I see that 2.4... I just built mine and it is hard to not be envious of some of the X1 Carbon's features.
@JeromeDemers
@JeromeDemers 2 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure they use the AT8236 motor drive because it's cheaper with the same printing result. These guys come from DJI with million of units made each years. Saving 10cents goes a long way!
@chrisrich4963
@chrisrich4963 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this. It is a nice change of pace for the printers at that pricing
@reasonablebeing5392
@reasonablebeing5392 2 жыл бұрын
Love the innovations and it will help wake up the other 3D printer manufacturers to innovate. I have bought two kickstarter 3D printers and the amount of energy and time I had to put into them to get them flying right was not worth the money saved. I like the Bambulab features but I see a lot of plastic and wonder how the printer will hold up over time. All of my current printers are working very well. I will sit this generation out and wait for the "2.0" versions to arrive.
@coltonmccormack8978
@coltonmccormack8978 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I believe 08:18 is incorrect. The Bambu Lab blog entry on the AMS explicitly mentions that there is a hygrometer (humidity sensor) in place, but I don't believe its raw output is available anywhere. When the desiccant is used up as detected by the humidity sensor the LCD will warn you to replace it.
@stupidgenius42
@stupidgenius42 Жыл бұрын
6:47 I’m a space nerd, and can confirm that that model is not, in fact, a “spaceX griffin”
@macrumpton
@macrumpton 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a machine that seems to have what is needed to make high quality printing available to non technical users. They will sell millions of these!
@boonjabby
@boonjabby Жыл бұрын
@15.40 As he said, likely the best hobbyist printer you will ever own
@EliasHeggernes
@EliasHeggernes 2 жыл бұрын
I have bought the X1 carbon from kickstarter which cost me 350 dollars just to ship... I didn't even manage to get the early bird. In my defense, I live in Norway which will unlikely get local storage and toll fees for anything non-Norwegian is sky-high. One small victory is the product will be sent by air hence just a few days of shipping instead of a boat which most countries have to use.
@alycapo3391
@alycapo3391 2 жыл бұрын
Lucky you. I'm in the UK I wish there was an option to pay extra for air freight for me!
@EliasHeggernes
@EliasHeggernes 2 жыл бұрын
@@alycapo3391 Yeah true. I would probably go for cheaper and longer shipping since I would then most likely buy the combo with the ams. I'm gonna wait a while until its in shops
@Allan-mf1he
@Allan-mf1he 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a very well thought out well made machine. Love the camera and scan feature! Hope it is successful. AI and simple histogram detection is not the same.
@ErLeuchten
@ErLeuchten Жыл бұрын
"a very well thought out well made machine" almost too good in my opinion. if i had such a product described in the video already in production, it would be a peace of cake to find investors. dont you think so? :)
@swapnilmankame
@swapnilmankame 29 күн бұрын
@@ErLeuchten It's currently the best-selling printer globally, and looking at user reviews on forums and reddit, it has a 99% reliability rate and works like an appliance. the Bambu A series, P series are currently the highest sold in a single year.
@ErLeuchten
@ErLeuchten 29 күн бұрын
@@swapnilmankame like i said a year ago, almost too good to be true :)
@STxFisherman
@STxFisherman 2 жыл бұрын
I emailed Bambu Labs with a technical question and their response time was very fast. They answered my question within a very short time so I believe that customer service is going to be a high priority for them and they seem to have a desire to improve the product as time moves forward. So far I am very impressed.
@user-yk1cw8im4h
@user-yk1cw8im4h 2 жыл бұрын
thats cool, finally a worthy contender to the monopoly of prusa
@slamoto2
@slamoto2 2 жыл бұрын
im so hyped for this maschine. Finally a breakthrough in the fdm world.
@labemolon5739
@labemolon5739 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! It baffles me as to why they didn’t utilize the infill area of each printed object for the purge tower, this would greatly reduce waste and nobody cares what the inside of their object is colored. If there is excess purge-to-infill, it can be programmed to utilize as much as possible to complete infill and *then* purge the excess remainder out the rear. By weight, it wasted more filament being purged out the rear of the printer than what was utilized for the Catan pieces.
@RobbieRosati
@RobbieRosati 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard that PrusaSlicer can do this, but you still might need a tower if there's not enough infill.
@julianreverse
@julianreverse Жыл бұрын
Benchy in 14 Minuten in besserer Qualität als der Prusa. Definitiv sein Geld wert!
@Elmasryq
@Elmasryq 2 жыл бұрын
As someone that has around 10 prusa printers Im honestly pretty tired of them, there is so much room for improvement and it seems like for the last few years they did nothing but rely on the MK3 success with nothing very exciting coming up.
@reinholdu9909
@reinholdu9909 2 жыл бұрын
While I do understand your feelings (fully!). I still very much hope that "the combined powerhouse PRUSA is now" will manage to fight back (& succeed)! *NO KILLER PLS*
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
@@reinholdu9909 I would LOVE to see all other manufacturers fight back. Prusa has sat on their reputation for way too long so they deserve to be sidelined. I'd like to see the real innovators knock Prusa and Creality into the dust as also rans. Make them have to earn their way back with innovative (Prusa) high quality (Creality) products. If just one company hogged 90% market share for a few years, it would force fantastic innovation and price competition. Can't wait!
@calaphos
@calaphos 2 жыл бұрын
Couldnt agree more. The upcoming XL definitly looks comparable if not better in some regards, but in the end its almost 3x the price. Really wonder what this machine will do to their pricing structure.
@thegarageluthier
@thegarageluthier 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason Bambu exists and was able to bring this machine to market was because of Prusa and others and all of the community and open source projects out there that they have based their work off of. Prusa have spent years working on firmware, slicers and all of their designs and support, and at the end of the day opened it up for everyone to use and improve. Bambu is closed source and giving nothing back to all the work they have assimilated in their design. Dont get me wrong I think it is a good looking machine but it is coming from the complete opposite end of the spectrum to Prusa and others who gave back to the community they came from and respected.
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegarageluthier This. Bambu is the result of investors trying to take over the market from hobbyists. It's good that they're trying, because competition, but I hope Prusa or another open-source-friendly company can fight back and win.
@overflow7276
@overflow7276 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy! I really hope that bambulab's market entry will be successful! If it is, this will become one of my favourite textbook examples of great innovation management! They have it all! Being a spin off from DJI, an unlikely competitor for the established companies, taking Prusa, Ultimaker etc. by surprise. They offer a great customer value with their automated tuning process and hasslefree setup. They bring new tech to the table that the established firms don't have. They enter the market via a low risk, high publicity campaign, securing funding and advertising at once. And they apparently did their economics homework and planed their production scale ahead. Please let them be succesful and give the 3D printer industry some fresh competition! I would love to see this work!
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 2 жыл бұрын
Bambulab X1 Carbon: The new reference or another upcoming Kickstarter Desaster?
@RubixB0y
@RubixB0y 2 жыл бұрын
*Disaster ;) (Haven't watch the vid yet, but I'm sure it'll be awesome!)
@dubsar
@dubsar 2 жыл бұрын
I hope it's a success!
@lazyman1011
@lazyman1011 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a new redefining consumer mashine.
@Mike-mu7tk
@Mike-mu7tk 2 жыл бұрын
It can be both. It doesn't matter though. Once consumer expectation have been raised by a product like this, whether they fail or not. It'll be followed by an army of clones. We'll probably see a new Prusa in the same "fast printer in a nice box" category that's slightly more expensive (or a lot more), followed by cheaper clones with less top end features that still print fast. I think the benchy speedboat race directly influenced the things we're seeing here.. Thank you speedboaters!
@deeeirl
@deeeirl 2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to grab an early bird combo. I think it's a game-changer and really is disruptive in terms of function and pricing. Finally some innovation instead of Ender clones!
@jsparx
@jsparx 2 жыл бұрын
I have had my own projects funded on Kickstarter successfully and I backed this one. I feel pretty confident in it and I am looking forward to getting this bad boy up n running.
@BeefIngot
@BeefIngot 2 жыл бұрын
First, I just wanted to point out a few issues they have said they will resolve, but still are pretty big annoyances. 1. Doesn't allow printing over the network with out internet access. Instead you can only use microsd. That's a problem 2. It doesn't not currently tune up each filament of a multi material print, which you might want it to do before the print 3. People have had issues saving filament settings for each of the 4 spools when using non rfid spools (bug not purposeful as best I can tell) Now, to answer this videos call to action, and from a previous post asking the same question: I dislike the proprietary stuff, I dislike the firmware lock down, I dislike the WiFi only, and I absolutely hate only allowing cloud not just local networking. All that said, I think I might back it (as in I pledged for the all included model) Why? it does nearly everything I've wanted out of a printer. Auto flow compensation, input shaper, first level checking, high speed, all material hotend, direct drive, mmu etc. No other printer has come close to checking all of those boxes and automating processes that are just annoyingly tedious (like input shaper or pressure advance). These are all things I've been modifying my large bed slinger to be closer to forever. So far I managed speed through klipper, an accelerometer, hemera, copper volcano, and bigger nozzle (which means less accuracy) and a few other things but many of these require manual tweaking and need retuning every time I make a change from big filament changes to belt tightening. I have been a 3d printer tinkerer for a long time to the point of stripping down a large bed singer, changing all the electronics, installing a hemera, skr2, klipper, volcano... the works. I realized I don't actually enjoy feeling like I need to constantly upgrade. I just want the printer to be what I think it should be, and this checks most of those boxes while costing 1/4th the prusa xl, which would have been a stretch for me. With this, I hope I can finally move away from 3d printing forcing itself to be a main hobby and having it be a tool I can choose to make a hobby whenever I want. I would think about the prusa xl, but they are just way too late and way too expensive. Worse yet, they don't have nearly the amount of auto calibration and for my purposes, are missing features like input shaper and they are similarly locked down in practicality while being open in theory so things like input shaper are just not possible unless they say so. If I'd have to do so much work to get klipper working in it and setup an accelerometer etc etc... well, we are back to square one of me tinkering on my cheap big bed slinger. I'm tired of that. I want to spend more of my limited time making cool projects not printer upgrades.
@markpafford4084
@markpafford4084 2 жыл бұрын
If it helps local Wifi sending instead of cloud sending is a future feature.
@theninjascientist689
@theninjascientist689 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't have put it any better myself.
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
"I hope I can finally move away from 3d printing forcing itself to be a main hobby and having it be a tool I can choose to make a hobby whenever I want." Yeah, that. 100% 👌
@glodigit
@glodigit 2 жыл бұрын
""I'm tired of that. I want to spend more of my limited time making cool projects not printer upgrades." I agree.
@rsilvers129
@rsilvers129 2 жыл бұрын
I have this printer for testing and figured out how to print Nylon CF on this with good surface finish and the best Z layer bonding. My formula is: 300c for eSun PA6-CF. Dry the filament really well first. Heat bed to 110. Disable the part fan in the default settings. Start with their Nylon-CF profile. I cut acceleration and outside wall speed in half. I didn't compare to see if this was important, but it was still so fast I didn't want to try it both ways. My layer height was 0.16. Vent the top glass 1 inch for two reasons. One is to greatly reduce or eliminate the surface blobs (I would like to see a checkbox in the slicer to do a nozzle wipe on each layer). Two is that if the chamber gets too hot, the filament that is designed to print at 265c will get soft and can slip in the extruder gears. I would like to see a feature to vent the enclosure by their exhaust fan at 40c or 50c to eliminate the need for this top-venting.
@UmbraAtrox_
@UmbraAtrox_ 2 жыл бұрын
This is it. The consumer 3d printer. Love it.
@antoniomromo
@antoniomromo 5 ай бұрын
The automated setup for a print is seriously something the prusa and Altimaker need to take note of. bambu didn't do anything revolutionary, but they are the closest to "it just works" that we have. Bambu is the printer for people that don't want to tinker. You get better possible outcomes with Prusa, but it REQUIRES tinkering.
@TheThirdPrice
@TheThirdPrice 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this looks really impressive. I hope these guys go far!
@PaulDominguez
@PaulDominguez 2 жыл бұрын
What I got from the intro--- A pooping printer that will make other printing companies sweat
@ultranerdprime7468
@ultranerdprime7468 2 жыл бұрын
The sweet, sweet smell of patents expiring.
@MattKasdorf
@MattKasdorf 2 жыл бұрын
I was a Kickstarter backer of the Buccaneer, I learned my lesson.
@auroraRealms
@auroraRealms Жыл бұрын
I don't think anything is going to shake Ender3 and its endless clones from the market. There is simply no other way to start learning 3d printing at such a low price. This printer really makes a strong case for the HyperCube and the amazing work of Tech2C.
@BelviGER
@BelviGER 2 жыл бұрын
I dont need this I definitely don't need an 8th printer but man do I want it
@ivovass195
@ivovass195 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to see a more detailed analysis of the inner makings of this machine, thank you for sharing with us. I really hope Bamboo Labs can manage the high demand and aftersales side of things and succeed with this great product they created
@berfranper
@berfranper 2 жыл бұрын
We needed a relatively cheap and reliable core-xy printer that works right after unboxing it, no need to assemble anything or print parts with previous printers.
@a_pullin
@a_pullin 2 жыл бұрын
What is shocking is how expensive Ultimakers are. $5k+, commonly. But they captured the institutional market for plug-n-play ...
@Martial-Mat
@Martial-Mat 2 жыл бұрын
Here's hoping they get toppled. That said, industrial build quality and functionality are worth something. Not 5k but still..
@paulnolastname9422
@paulnolastname9422 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still using a Lulzbot TAZ 5. This might just be the printer I've been waiting for. I liked your review. Better than some of the others, and thanks for sparing me the unboxing.
@Mytagforhalo
@Mytagforhalo 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Stefan, I just wanted to say I really appreciate your coverage on the machine. Especially closer looks at the electronics and how everything works. Im pretty bummed that the AMS has some spool limitations. I definitely have a more positive outslook on the machine after seeing all of this, I'm not going to buy until it goes retail, i've been burned by lesser investments in the past, but these guys seem to have everything worked out. That being said, i certainly see it getting much more expensive with domestic stock that includes tariffs and shipping to the warehouse.
@TheFoodnipple
@TheFoodnipple 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kick in the ass the industry needs, even big names are getting lazy and it's not helping to bring the hobby mainstream.
@andykaw1
@andykaw1 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered the X1 carbon... Danke Stefan fuer Das hilfe!
@Voyajer.
@Voyajer. 2 жыл бұрын
Its going to need to be as open as other printer manufacturers for me to consider it, its also why I avoided DJI in the drone space. Also I don't like the proprietary nozzle+heater block.
@webslinger2011
@webslinger2011 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like an awesome machine. Nothing left to mod. Great for people with a lot of spare change.
@mustin2450
@mustin2450 2 жыл бұрын
I've backed it up and was one of the first doing so. This is the first and probably also the last time I backed some thing up on Kickstarter because of their terms and conditions. I think Kickstarter needs an overhauling in backers security for some instance as the basic idea of it is still something I am convinced of. For Values of app. 1K it should be guaranteed that you get something in return and that not 'weather' conditions can be the reason to loose everything. Beside that I am convinced that the X1 is going to be the so long needed fresh breeze for the 3D printing community. I can't wait to hold my X1 in the hands soon.
@Mindbulletz
@Mindbulletz 2 жыл бұрын
If those motor controllers afford them more direct voltage control, it's possible that they could actually be a really smart decision. Driving the two stepper motor coils with 90-degree out-of-phase sine signal rather than a step/dir signal could offer huge benefits in eliminating vibration. Even if we consider microstepping, which is essentially the same sort of interpolation, it would bypass the step-based communication layer, offering more freedom in either timing or positioning motor state updates.
@Rayphel07
@Rayphel07 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who is more excited about the Voron 2.4 frame in the background than the X1 ?
@Kady3DPrinting
@Kady3DPrinting 10 ай бұрын
I got it this week, i never saw such professionalism
@bleach_drink_me
@bleach_drink_me 4 ай бұрын
1 year later and this printer changed the market for the better. We now have fast no hassle printers even at low- mid range prices.
@jamesocker5235
@jamesocker5235 Жыл бұрын
This will make 3 d printing even more mainstream, the LiDAR part is awesome, looks like excellent job, the time to start if it reduces failure will be great
@mikegriffinasl
@mikegriffinasl 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the speed - that’s the thing - 3x over current tech is really valuable and in my mind that’s where the effort needs to go for printer manufacturers.
@buzz1ebee
@buzz1ebee Жыл бұрын
That's definitely not LiDAR, it's a 2d laser profiler. It's not counting the time it takes for light to travel so it's not LiDAR. It projects a line at a known angle and analyses the shape of the line on a 2d sensor and does simple trig for each pixel to calculate the height. Including a laser profiler for that price is frankly amazing. Very impressive printer and I may get one instead of building a voron.
@NickShl
@NickShl Жыл бұрын
Lets be honest: Prusa should not cost around $1000. Outdated design, 3D printed part... when you pay such money you sponsor Joseph for his open source work for community. As result many people uses his work for free, Prusa sell less printers and because of that printer price is higher that it should be. BambuLab doesn't give anything back to community, they don't open source anything.
@mattweger437
@mattweger437 2 ай бұрын
Eh my mk3s that I built from a kit still prints better than this. But I'm sure after I take it apart and do my engineering touch it will be alright
@calaphos
@calaphos 2 жыл бұрын
I've used similar integrated and USB-C connected toolboards with Klipper on my printer. The USB-C cable probably carries 24V and CAN bus. Definitly not something you want to connect to your phone. Otherwise I really enjoyed the more in depth look on the printers internals. Exactly the level of detail I come here for. Funnily enough I was quite hyped for it and backed it initially, but later on pulled my backing. I dont really have doubts about its qualities, but in the end I mostly want a machine to tinker with and this is not it. And I dont print enough parts otherwise to make this machine worth it.
@billyjoe3309
@billyjoe3309 Жыл бұрын
I seriously want this. What a nice machine!
@ZeonsZone
@ZeonsZone Жыл бұрын
Great review! On their US site you can make a deposit and once a unit is available and your number is up, you pay the rest of the cost and they ship it out. (at least thats whats stated on the site). Hope my number comes up soon and it gets shipped out. Looking forward to giving it a try.
@stfutruck68
@stfutruck68 2 жыл бұрын
I think that it will bring the core xy more into the forefront. It's there now but the ender clones may move further back as the price for making the xy printers gets lower. Yes, I have backed it. I am anxiously awaiting a unit.
@theluc1f3r93
@theluc1f3r93 2 жыл бұрын
faster does not mean better, that plastic filament need a rest/cooldown too
@logitech4873
@logitech4873 2 жыл бұрын
It can comfortably print PLA at those high speeds.
@theluc1f3r93
@theluc1f3r93 2 жыл бұрын
@@logitech4873 ok, and how speed it is? Our local Prusa is 200mm+/s, that bit ok, in enclosure you can boots it. This look nice, but price for this is a bit high (same as prusa or maybe more, depend on currency transfers). Best still will be SLA for quality and speed, price too 1-2K USD. If this can print 0,08-0,1mm nozzle same speed 0,4mm prusa then it would be awesome. Hope they get patent right fot enclosure on printer, prusa cant do their own, because somebody patent it. But if this success (which I hope, but now i buy rather MKS+), then maybe second or third gen would be good. But for now Prusa has almost 800 workers on printers, tech guys etc. And there just few (of course it doesnt mean these 5 guys are worse than 800 others, but i dont think so).
@logitech4873
@logitech4873 2 жыл бұрын
@@theluc1f3r93 400-500 mm/s.
@Leynad778
@Leynad778 2 жыл бұрын
I've 'ordered' one and just hope it will survive the long shipment to Germany, people say will take up to 6 weeks, so better don't expect this awesomeness in July if it's going to be shipped by ship. IMO the first thing that other companies should offer is at least an optional enclosure. I just started with 3D-printing in October last year and the first things I was printing were parts for my DIY-case made with aluminium profiles and acrylic plate. It's not that I preferred it to a ready-made solution (could be offered way cheaper produced in bulks), but I couldn't find any for reasonable prices. My case does not only keep the dust outside and makes printing ASA like PLA, but there is also almost no smell even while printing ABS and it's considerably more quiet, energy-efficient with lower heat emissions. But this thing even makes printing without headed bed easy, or did you use a headed bed for PLA? Could you be so kind and measure the footprint of the case? Can't find any infos about it.
@oootoob
@oootoob 2 жыл бұрын
I think Prusa have made a strategic mistake putting their prices up with the advent of this machine. If anything, they need to be cutting prices with this kind of competition.
@rcmaniac25
@rcmaniac25 2 жыл бұрын
Yaaaas! Finally some digging into the details of the printer. Many don't get past "look, it prints fast, AMS *cough*MMU*cough*, and poop shoot". And finally a good look at the "LIDAR". Every time I brought that up, someone went "well they innovated on that. Nobody else has. All the other LIDAR systems aren't accurate or small enough" and now I see that it isn't really LIDAR in the way everyone knows it. Their solution still works, but it's like taking a sports car and calling it a race car. You can... but it misses what makes them different. I'm very happy they credit models and people and don't just take it. They certainly did their research to make a good printer. I'm still not sold until units get into people hands months down the line. That first shipment will be fine, but future shipments and manufacturing runs are what I'm more curious on. Your review was great. The only thing I worry about, and covered only by 1 other review (Breaks n Makes), is that apparently they're going to have subscriptions for slicer features and similar in the future. So how many of the features people are raving about will remain is to be seen. I did a larger writeup elsewhere, but the one part I want to bring over is one you mentioned; this is a needed wakeup call. I expect Prusa and a few others can adapt, but many won't. I also have stated "too many in 3D printing try to hardware-solution their way out of a software problem" and I think that is what's gonna make and break this and other systems. You can add as much cross bracing as you want, but if your system still gets ringing then you need software... and if the 3D printer community becomes "I just take it out of the box and print", then all the exposed wires and motors that make these machines tinker-er friendly are going to be the minority and may even be rejected for those reasons. (Tinkering will not go away though). Time will tell, but it's a step in the right direction. Will they become a Prusa/Ultimaker or will they fall by the wayside as others start to hit feature parity... to be seen.
@thetechhobbyist3d9
@thetechhobbyist3d9 2 жыл бұрын
What was holding me back from buying this one was the question about the parts supply. I went with the Anycubic Kobra instead and even for this one, getting parts is a challenge!
@minnow11
@minnow11 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope this company becomes successful.
@edmonddyogi6411
@edmonddyogi6411 2 жыл бұрын
I backed it. Was about to back the Anker but, thankfully, I decided its just a fancier version of my Prusa MK3S so I decided not to back Anker. I had trouble with selecting a pledge, I tried to get the early bird one as soon as the Kickstarter campaign started but I couldn't. I gave up and got the X1 carbon combo instead. I still ended up being backer 1,700+! That was in the first 10-20 minutes, I think.
@markuslimseth8426
@markuslimseth8426 2 жыл бұрын
A blue Voron 2.4 in the background is coming soon on this channel!
@quinnobi42
@quinnobi42 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really excited for this printer to hit the market, but there's one thing that I don't really like: the material waste with multi-color/multi-material printing. I just wouldn't be comfortable with that level of material waste unless I had some way of recycling it into filament, and the market for that is really quite small. Who knows, maybe this machine will drive that market to expand.
@StephanMakowski
@StephanMakowski 2 жыл бұрын
Backer #39 here… I am really tired of fiddling with Enders and so on… so I hope this printer will do what I want: print in a good quality. Period!
@olafb.2929
@olafb.2929 2 жыл бұрын
From the feature list it looks like it sets the new standard in this price area. Which is really what we need. If it lives up to the expectations it could be a game changer.
@melgross
@melgross 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to know what to say. I’ve taken part in five Kickstarter projects over the years. Two came out well. The product was what they said it would be. Another was disappointing. The other two failed. I consider that to be just a 40% success rate. This looks interesting and a far more finished product right now. But the problem is that they may never get the software to work properly, the hardware problems may never be solved. They may not sell nearly as many as they need to in order to break even. They may go out of business shortly after they begin actual sales. It’s impossible to know. I am in the market for a good, fairly fast 3D printer to use in my shops. I haven’t found anything that less than $10,000 that’s really producing decent parts at a decent speed. This does look interesting, and even if it retails for $2,000 for the XL model, if its problems are solved, it would be cheap for what it does. Adding another $500, or so, for the multi-filament accessory is more than reasonable. If it makes it that far, and the final reviews are good, and I’ll be looking here for that, then I’ll buy one. But before? No. The only thing that I would like to see here is the same thing that was mentioned as disappointing - a 350 temperature capability.
@snan1384
@snan1384 2 жыл бұрын
Best video about bambulab I seen, and I've seen a lot
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate it.
@Thor_Asgard_
@Thor_Asgard_ Жыл бұрын
Ive got one and its amazing... Had 2 mk3s, but now i rarely use them anymore because of the X1 carbon. Mostly if iam too lazy to take off the AMS for TPU. The X1 never failed me so far and its amazingly fast and accurate.
@EnchiladaBro
@EnchiladaBro Жыл бұрын
Any problems or cons that stick out to you? I'm torn between building a Voron trident LDO kit, or just getting the Bambu x1c with AMS. Same price, and Bambu is only 50x50mm smaller. . . How do you like it? Are the print qualities good?
@Thor_Asgard_
@Thor_Asgard_ Жыл бұрын
@@EnchiladaBro TBH, the feature set of the Bambu is just too good to turn down. From all of my prints so far, the quality is amazing and the prints are strong AF thx to the enclosure which reaches arround 60°C when printing PA-CF. Had no Failed prints that arent my fault so far, same goes for my Prusas. The Build plates are the best quality ive ever seen, even better then the Prusa ones. Software wise it flawless to me so far. The ease of use is just so comfy, i couldnt imagine myself to go for anything else than a Prusa XL besides my X1. Amazing maschine and you wont regret it for even a second. Edit: Only downside is, you cant use every material in the AMS, like Nylon and TPU, because its too abrasive. But that goes for other printers with MMU aswell so, no downside for me.
@EnchiladaBro
@EnchiladaBro Жыл бұрын
@@Thor_Asgard_ True yes I dont like that you cant use TPU in it, but you can run the roll outside the AMS system (for a while i thought you couldnt even run tpu through the printer itself) .... Im honestly torn between this and a LDO trident 300x300x300. and for the LDO I could always get the enraged rabbit carrot feeder (multiprint addon). either way the prices are within 100-200 of eachother. and voron is open source plus tons of addons, just gotta put it together and tweak it more. But this is my first printer so either way ill be absorbing alot of info and putting in the hours. . . Why does bambu have to be proprietary! Ive been trying to make this decision for quite some time now and it gets harder and harder... most recently I decided id get the 1xC, and maybe in a year or so ill want another printer ( after learning the print and splicer side of it all ), then i could get a trident, or even a 2.4 and do the flying gantry. id have a printer to print what i need, id have tons of more knowledge on the design and splice side of it, and would be ready to tackle a much more involved process of the building and assembly and maintenance and upgrades....Or just jump right in and get my hands dirty on it all
@gregoryp203
@gregoryp203 2 жыл бұрын
This seems like a great machine but I don't think it will be the next reference because of proprietary parts and software. What I think makes prusa a reference machine is the off the shelf parts and opensource software. If I had a print farm I would rather have a machine where I can get the parts from many places and software/config fixes from a community. It seems like the consumer 3d printer industry is changing as fast as the PC industry in the 80s . The winner of the PCs was not a specific PC but a platform that was cloned .
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. IMO the next reference should be based on Voron kits.
@louisvaught2495
@louisvaught2495 2 жыл бұрын
The software is open source.
@JustinBuildsThings
@JustinBuildsThings 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart they actually used a voron 1.8 as their benchmark machine to sanity test what they were building
@obie224
@obie224 2 жыл бұрын
"If I had a print farm" it's painfully obvious that you've never run a print farm, or any other business for that matter. your logic is ridiculous - choose one printer over the other because of off the shelf parts and open source firmware, while ignoring the fact that the X1 prints at triple the speed and you have ZERO idea about it's reliability - who cares about open source parts or firmware if you're pushing prints out the door for profit ?? if the printers work they work. speed, quality, and printer downtime are all that matters. My actual guess is that you own a prusia and like most prusia owners, you'll perform extreme mental gymnastics to justify paying $1200 for a glorified ender 3. I've seen it done a million times, but it still makes me laugh every time.
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