Strange how a person thinks lack of explanation is better.

Recon RL is a worst fork I ever used :D bad damper, bad sealing, oil leak, etc

@@Lezz015 sounds like you're using an entry XC fork to do Enduro or something 😂 I haven't had any issues after three years of continuous usage with regular maintenance, there's also a considerable difference between the TK and the RL damper.

@@Asthbendriel no :) I'm using bicycle just for commuting, to have some fun or as a fast and cheap transport. I have some bicycles with different forks such as magura, manitou, fox and rockshox. So rockshox forks are worsts fork I ever used, except very cheap or chinese forks. For example, manitou much better due great dampers. I also had a recon silver fork. I have a SID RTL with MC DNA damper. It have some oil leaks near compression knob and it failed because plastic sping broke.

@@Lezz015 the way you're using the fork and the results you're getting don't make sense at all to me, are you a heavy rider or don't maintain the fork at all? I use the Recon RL for natural trail riding, average 40-60Km rides every weekend and short rides along the week. For three years the fork have gone through dust, dirt, moss, roots, mud, clay, crossed rivers, basically almost anything but ice and snow because it doesn't snow over here, and the fork works as day one and in all the three years I haven't had a single leaking issue or sensitivity loss because of the damper. I don't get much air time with this fork at all, but hey it's a 100mm fork, it's not meant for gravity lol. On the brands side of things, I haven't used or seen a Magura fork around here, but doing a quick research I couldn't find a brand new $250 29er Magura, same goes for Fox and the only fork Manitou offers at that price range is the Markhor, which haven't used but looks like a very good fork, but nothing earth-shaking. You can't expect a $250 fork to work as good as a $600 - $700 fork, but it's hell of value for the money you're paying compared to other brands like Sr Suntour for the same price range.

@@Asthbendriel I served SID more than riding it. But I think that I'm a heavy rider, I'm over 100kg with backpack. RS SID had this some problems: 1) a broken damper(you can google about this problem). 2) a cracking steerer(this is a common problem). 3) knocking out dust seal due to air leakage from negative air chamber(it happens only in cold weather and in I should change sealing o-ring) 4) I cannot setup spring for my weight, because there is no tokens in positive air chamber So I'm just tired with this fork. It has only one advantage - weight :) Many people says that they can find RS spares easily and can't find anything for the manitou. So okay, but RS forks have toooooo much plastic parts. You can see broken snap ring on this video, one latch is broken. And you can damage damper while riding on RS fork because there is no high speed bypass(shimstack or something like this) and every bump can do it. Just lock or add compression and hit you fork quick and you have a chance to damage damper. In 2018 I bought a brand new manitou marvel on ebay for 90 eur. So i think this is a good price. Also you can find a brand new, new, mint or used fork on the ebay. Also you can try to buy on on crc or bike-discount on sales. I do not recommend to buy magura fork. It'a far better than RS but not so good as manitou. Check this video about markhor kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtimq6p42du4pWg.html

Did it work? ;)

Did you need to increase the amount of oil in the damper side? Can the spacer be removed/changed without losing any oil?

@@Scottydont1978Used same amount of oil as service advises and works fine, but in theory you should add a little more. You will lose the existing oil when doing this, if you remove the spacer and don't replace with it with a smaller spacer on 130mm forks you're get 150 travel this will give you problems, I suggest only going to 140 travel, good luck

@@norseman3919 why going to150 will cause problem ? It says in the service manual that the spacers are optional.

@@xyzDJzyx 150mm from 130mm will change the geometry to much for a short travel bike(make climbing hard going) , and apparently the lockout won't work, you could always give it a try and if no good go back to the original setting or 140mm

@@norseman3919 Yes but my goal is to increase descent performance. More travel and slacker angle is good for me and I am lightweight.

haha yeah I feel bad just imagining servicing the whole fork as Sickbiker just did

Andrei Dolgushin tbh I would be down, helps with mechanical experience

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oh dear

currently watching and this is absolute torture! STOP FUCKING BRUSHING MAN

You can both skip 10s ahead past those parts ya know. Geez people are so ungrateful these days.

be water my friend……….or be punched………

ideally yes, but if it's been stored in a cool dry location, should be fine, and do a service after 50 hours

Touch them and you'll notice. Check for elasticity and suppleness. If they lack these, replace. Usually if you maintain your bike, trat it well and re-grease/oil every few months (every 3-6 months depending on how much you use the bike) the rubber lasts a long time.

pretty much the same.

Look up the service manual all of the oil weight/ volume info is in it.

Thats exactly the fork i bought a Week ago to put onto my Bike. The Pre owner wrote something like good Condition, but i can swear it maybe never had a service so far.. The Money i paid for both, fork and service supplies, would be enough for a brand new 2016 Recon in Sale. I guess at least it will teach me something..

@@jasperhusmann6888 - Honestly, I fretted for over a year on whether to attempt rebuilding my stock fork. The KZfaq videos were intimidating. The service manuals were confusing. But I decided that I needed to try and learn because I would never trust someone to service my equipment properly. It’s hard to verify if a bike mechanic used new seals or o-rings, for example. Verifying the quality of their work would require opening the fork and looking. At that point, I figured that I would just do it myself. I serviced my second fork yesterday and realized that it’s pretty easy once you learn the basics. I regret waiting so long to develop the courage to take my forks apart.

@@savoirfaire8979 I will try my best to learn it for similar reasons. I want to do as much as possible by myself. first because i want to get know my bike and what it needs and second because repaircosts at our local bikeshops are damn expensive . also the workshops are at super high demand right now. I guess it will be expensive to start with, because of all the tools and materials you need, but later it will save me money and prevent getting ripped off by some mechanics, that just do unnecessary repairs and demand an unrealistic price at the end. Im currently studying social work and want to work with kids and young adults. so maybe it will help me later and i can repair their bikes with them. Have a good time and bike on. DIY or Die ;)

@@jasperhusmann6888 how much was the service charge ? btw how much is a new recon ?

@@sdqsdq6274 i bought one from eBay for 120 Euros. When i realized, that it needed a Service i wrote the guy to complain a little bit because he told me it was in perfect condition and he paid me 20 back for the service kit. I also needed 2 kinds of oil so in total it was like 140 euros

thats right, also use grease instead oil for the foam seals, e.g. SRAM Butter it will remain better on the foam seals

I think it doesn't matter, you can test it before adding the screw like he does. If the dial doesn't line up where you want it just rotate the plate and add the dial. Open to closed is only a 3/4 turn.

For foam rings, use Rockshox Redrum or Fox Float Fluid

Да, всё правильно пишете, надо замачивать в 15 W. Можно без проблем в хорошем синтетическом, моторном масле и это же масло в штаны вилки налить, по 6 мл.

That's the lower leg oil. IIRC each one needs 6ml of 15wt shock oil

you can but depending on the compound of the grease it can absorb dust and create some friction, on the other hand any kind of suspension grease (not just sram butter) can be used.

@@here_is_gabe cheers for the reply 👍🏼

Fork movement may get jerky when using the wrong lube, but you may well have found out by now.

А сколько он в штаны масла залил?

@@kyrillbelousov3056 по мануалу положено 6 гр.масла 15 w

Once a year is fine

I had same issue - easy fix, check this out kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9RkktWhl6fOYqM.html

Да, все говорят что не доливают масло. Лично у меня было залито 110 мл, хотя должно быть 150 мл.

En el manual.de RockShox online sale

I'm facing same issue right now. Please let me know if you happen to know the reason

$85 an hr × 3 hours

this guy don't understand nothing of fork. mistake oil. don't send him the fork, it's the end of fork. see others videos

@@Bobcatspiritdude From where did you take that price?? WTF With 250$ i buy a new fork :))))) or a bike

​@@syovol But he does it so great that really makes everybody belive he knows like a PRO JAJAJAJA!!!

long story short, he is just being cheap. when doing a lower leg service, it is only necessary to replenish the lubricants, however for a more in depth service like this, it is recommended you replace all the seals, however i guess it is not really necessary unless they are damaged. this service is supposed to be done annually, so if the seals start to perish he should still catch it before running into issues. i do still think that he should just replace them all anyway, since the kits are pretty inexpensive nowadays, priced around £15

Recon forks have a 20mm black spacer that can be removed to increase the travel.

Don Novicki yeah it’s just the oil. It’s normal on most RockShox

What happened ?

@@sijmes COVID happened. I couldn't buy the service kit cause it was out of stock and I know my dust seals are badly in need of replacing if I open the fork. So haven't done it yet! I did see it was back in stock last week. So I guess I'll try to order it soon and then get working on the fork when I get some time again! But I won't do the spacer removal thing unless curiousity gets the best of me when I have the fork disassembled. Reason being is that I'm buying a second hand all mountain MTB tomorrow (possibly) and I wish to keep the XC geometry of this hardtail intact for long distance tours. But I did see videos of people doing this and apparently it works fine.

everything is set up.

Надо новую перебрать так как это сделал автор ролика. Во-первых, с завода не доливают масло 5 W ( Лично у меня было залито 110 мл вместо 150 мл). Во-вторых, практически во всех новых вилках, при разборе, внутри присутствует металлическая стружка. Нужно всё вычистить и по-новой собрать.