Setting brake linkage. How much brake is needed?

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Adam Drake

Adam Drake

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Mugen Seiki Racing's Adam Drake shows how to set brake linkage, brake dead-band, and overall brake force.
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@thomasschwaiger847
@thomasschwaiger847 11 ай бұрын
This is the most important tip at all. Setting throttle and break correctly makes the car so much easier to drive. Thanks Adam for sharing!
@danielwalter5268
@danielwalter5268 3 жыл бұрын
Been racing RC for a few years, and I know quite a bit. But I ALWAYS learn something new from you vids. Measuring the brake deadban for consistency is genius. Thanks again!!
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@alrightletsgo470
@alrightletsgo470 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this video I learned that you can adjust the brake bias by turned the set screw knobs to thread the rod in and out. I had no idea! I’ve been disconnecting and cutting fuel tube for ages
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@D70racing
@D70racing 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed. Thanks for all the great help.
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Call_Call_Fold
@Call_Call_Fold 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam! I really appreciate all these videos. I have been in the hobby for a very long time but still find a few tips and tricks. I have definitely been in the camp of using too much brake force and was looking for a video to see what others were doing. So glad I came across your video! Thanks again! Loving my OS AD2. Please know that you are appreciated!
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it, thank you!
@ashermorales8276
@ashermorales8276 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Adam. As I’m learning to drive faster and faster on the track, I need to use my brakes more and knowing how to set them up and adjust them to my liking is super helpful
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@RBAERO
@RBAERO 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Two suggestion videos. First about parts we need for racing like spare parts to have in home and to have on the races. 2 A video showing the necessary tools and acessories for setup our cars and use during race. Those videos we be helpful principally for new people interesting in race
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 3 жыл бұрын
Great ideas, thank you!
@RBAERO
@RBAERO 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdamDrake Nice! I will still tune to see those videos. Thanks
@NitroFreak
@NitroFreak 3 жыл бұрын
Awsome vid like always great info on the breaks keep up the great work
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TheSkelzo
@TheSkelzo 3 жыл бұрын
I found a way of putting a number on brake force. I use a small hand held torque wrench with a 17 mm socket. I first set my dead band with a feeler gauge at the same way Adam did. I then set my endpoint to 100% for the max brake force. Usually i set it so it's just enough to lock the wheels. I then make sure the bias is 50/50. After i all i need to do is lower my epa for the grip conditions. This way I am sure everything is perfect and always the same. I then tune the bias with the thumbscrews. it works pretty good.
@alb9022
@alb9022 3 жыл бұрын
Does your radio let you set brake travel without having to change epa?
@TheSkelzo
@TheSkelzo 3 жыл бұрын
@@alb9022 I have a M17 i just lower my dual rate
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice.
@Ls3Atomicvette
@Ls3Atomicvette 3 жыл бұрын
Great video much needed info
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Douger318
@Douger318 11 ай бұрын
great for us new guys to get a starting point . thanks
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 10 ай бұрын
My pleasure.
@keithnelson2808
@keithnelson2808 Жыл бұрын
Just bought me a buggy can't wait to run it
@robertkakela2068
@robertkakela2068 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam I’ve been working on my brake game…. The dead band part never knew how to measure. I’ve been using less brake and more of a roll onto than the flick.
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@MrLilChilly
@MrLilChilly 3 жыл бұрын
Great info! Especially the total brake force (epa). That's a tuning situation I think doesn't get talked about enough, and I feel it can make or break a good handling car pun intended lol. Good video🏎💨💯💪💪👊👊👍👍
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ntjack8894
@ntjack8894 3 жыл бұрын
Good information, thanks.
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure.
@kevingoodman9191
@kevingoodman9191 3 жыл бұрын
So helpful thank you
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@mr.h.5205
@mr.h.5205 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome 🏆 Thanks Bobby
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@waynerc2420
@waynerc2420 3 жыл бұрын
New to nitro nice video
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jtr4405
@jtr4405 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam can u please do a video on the custom air filter holder that u are using on Rhondas buggy in this video.
@neontetra1000
@neontetra1000 Жыл бұрын
I just remembered my old futaba 3vc had anti lock braking in the menu and would Pump the servo . I wonder if the new radios still have that feature? I will Have yo Check my 7xc. It seems like it would work well with the latest HRS servos .
@darenolney41
@darenolney41 3 жыл бұрын
From your previous video on brakes you used little springs. The link no longer exists can you please share where you get the springs currently? Thank you, great videos!
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
Mugen will have brake springs in the near future, but you can use the AE springs.
@arthur6094
@arthur6094 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video ! About the air filter, is it the TLR241039 (for 8X) or the LOSA9150 (for 8T / 8B) ? Bought the TLR241039 but it does not fit as it touch the black plastic piece that protect the fuel tank Thanks
@davidcarmendy5244
@davidcarmendy5244 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam! Quick question - for the 170BL servos... They are very difficult to rotate when the power is off. I don't see any sort of fail safe rubber band on the servo yet. Do you add one for these servos? I just purchased one servo to see if I would like to place in all my vehicles, but I am worried about a situation where receiver battery power is lost with the throttle slightly open. The typical rubber band I use isn't strong enough to close.
@i.will.pulverize
@i.will.pulverize 4 ай бұрын
When doing the brake bias test with the rubber band, do you ever get a rough feeling out of the brakes? Like they're warped? Mine feel as far from smooth as possible. What could cause that? The only thing i could find on it was stuff about full scale cars and the pad material being unevenly embedded onto the rotor
@monstah408
@monstah408 2 жыл бұрын
Had a question for the brake disc , I use a scotch brite to clean up the disc when I’m doing a service, but how long do disc last ? Or when to replace is there a rotor thickness ?
@ar-arnitro
@ar-arnitro 3 жыл бұрын
Good info Adam are you going for JRBL at Madera California on July 10?
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
No, I wasn't able to make it.
@eddiestaggs8966
@eddiestaggs8966 3 жыл бұрын
i use dual rate programmed to my dial on m12s. Easy quick brake adjustment.
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@JohnieDSM
@JohnieDSM 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video - was looking for such thing a long time! What would you recomend for the electric version - regarding brake EPA?
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
With my Tekin RX8 Gen 3 I start with the brakes at 80% on the ESC and the EPA on the radio is usually between 65-70%.
@JohnieDSM
@JohnieDSM 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdamDrake Great! Thanks for the info! as always nice support!
@wicked59rt
@wicked59rt 3 жыл бұрын
When you set the throttle EPA, you said it has a 6.5mm venturi. We know the carb will close past the venturi when at idle so this would also mean that if you measure the opening with the throttle throw at 6.5mm, it wouldn't completely clear the venturi at full throttle due to the thickness of the venturi. Would this be of any concern since the throttle never actually reaches that fully open position?
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, when setting the throttle linkage and carb opening, I considered the idle gap 0 or 0% throttle. Then open it to the venturi size (6.5mm), it may not be prefect, but gets you in the ballpark without having to remove the filter and the risk of dirt getting into the carb.
@brandonbentley8532
@brandonbentley8532 3 жыл бұрын
Now what about the antilock break oscillation setting? How does increasing or decreasing my antilock break oscillation effect breaking?
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
I don't recommend the antilock brakes. It seems to be really hard on the servo.
@royarsey5429
@royarsey5429 2 жыл бұрын
But Adam Drake my EPA for brake is only for both front & rear on my DX5C...the other EPA is for carburetor end points..how do i adjust the brakes separately from the front and rear?
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
You should be able to do that mechanically with the linkage.
@davidowenby2469
@davidowenby2469 2 жыл бұрын
how do i find out venturi size for my dynomite .21 / losi 8ight rtr ? this is my first nitro and want to be decent or better at tuning.
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
You can measure it with calipers.
@Duececutty6972
@Duececutty6972 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks For the great videos as usual. I was hoping to find a video of run on for nitro. Fairly new and last race my car felt like it was accelerating at every corner when I needed to slow down and it was pushing me way out. Ugh. Any help would be highly appreciated.
@Call_Call_Fold
@Call_Call_Fold 3 жыл бұрын
Bottom end is too rich. Lean it out and lower the idle as needed. JQ has a great hour long video on how to tune an engine and addresses run on and how to fix it perfectly.
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Could be rich on bottom and you may want to adjust the clutch setting.
@victorvasquez8094
@victorvasquez8094 2 жыл бұрын
Adam do you recommend plastic or aluminum throttle servo horn?
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
Plastic for throttle and aluminum for steering.
@CarlosDelaoGunEngraver
@CarlosDelaoGunEngraver 4 ай бұрын
@@AdamDrake why is that?
@mtadave6702
@mtadave6702 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't temperature effect the bias during a race?
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake Жыл бұрын
It shouldn't.
@mtadave6702
@mtadave6702 Жыл бұрын
@@AdamDrake does the material used for the discs make a difference? Or do you use pads on metal discs?
@nitrogas5719
@nitrogas5719 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail confused me at first lol
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@tommieharrell706
@tommieharrell706 3 жыл бұрын
I notice the front on her car has a lot of toe out it looks is there a reason for that
@jeffgraham8474
@jeffgraham8474 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that also, A LOT of toe out. I wanted to ask if this is common. Probably helps keep the outside front from catching ruts.
@kevinrobertson2161
@kevinrobertson2161 3 жыл бұрын
Makes Turn in at slower speeds faster and smoother. Down side is a car can feel a bit twitchy at high speeds
@mlbz4200
@mlbz4200 3 жыл бұрын
I've noticed this on Adams Buggy in several recent videos too. Massive amounts of toe out up front. Probably looks exagerated because it is up on a box as well.
@alrightletsgo470
@alrightletsgo470 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because it’s on a car stand. With the suspension compressed it wouldn’t be anywhere near as much toe
@nednerb6520
@nednerb6520 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not much toe it, it’s mostly bump steer, when the car is at full droop it looks like a lot, but when you set it on the table it’s probably about -2° of toe out.
@RyanRCRacing
@RyanRCRacing 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man. Just some unsolicited feedback, we can’t see the other side of the calipers. Videos that are foolproof stand out. Sorry, but had to speak my truth.
@AdamDrake
@AdamDrake 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback.
@RyanRCRacing
@RyanRCRacing 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdamDrake Anytime, big dawg. Just a minor misunderstanding that I had. However, I was still able to make adjustments because I kind of understood the point. Thanks!
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