"Usually the big time nerds have ACROs" I heard that, looked at my 2 ACROs, and then looked at my computer science degree. Yeah you rarely miss Ben.

I feel your like the John Meadows (R.I.P) of shooting lol. Always cranking out a tone of informative content and providing an inane amount of knowledge for free with none of the typical click-bait filler. As a new gun owner late to the party (35 y.o.) it's been super helpful. Just snagged the 5 pack of your books from the pro shop, a few thousand rounds of 9mm, 5.56, and 12ga, and a range membership within 5 minutes of my work. Stoked to get after it and make up for lost time!

The Holosun EPS red dot is the best pistol mounted dot out now IMO

I can only afford to shoot around 4-5k rds of 9mm a year. About the same for .223/5.56 I have two Holoson red dots. I put C&H Precision mounting plates. So far so good.

This year I've seen 4 reddots fly off guns at matches. 3 SRO's and a RMR from 2 M&Ps, a Glock and a CZ. Heh.

Torque to spec and blue loc tite does the trick!

Once you can train enough to “find the dot” suddenly it’s amazing!

Huge thanks for the consistent content brother. Whether it’s education or entertainment, you always provide. I watch them all and watch every day. You have genuinely gotten me interested in competition shooting and I appreciate the information.

I shoot around 1k rds a month. I haven’t had a dot fail yet but I also change dots every so many years. I’m now into the enclosed emitter stage running a Steiner mps. It has been pretty solid so far.

I have an EPS and EPS Carry. EPS has been good for the 6 months or so I've owned it, Carry needs to go back again. First time, the zero jumped a huge amount and the buttons stopped working. This time, the buttons won't work again. I don't think the cover for the buttons is quite waterproof on this one. Daily IWB carry in 100 degree heat is a hell of a stress test! Only other red dot I've had and would call trash is the Romeo Zero. The plastic lens scratches WAY too easily. They saved money on the wrong part.

I was really hoping the C-More rts2 was going to “just work” like you described for most red dots these days. Unfortunately I’ve gotten a unit with many problems. I’ve got a 507comp now… In my opinion irons are more challenging and I like prod but unfortunately 0 people shoot it in my area. The red dots are here and I think they’re here to stay.

I have my Holosun 509t on my deer shotgun and it held up to 200 rounds of 3 inch magnum slugs. It's on my Glock now and it's still held up to 3k rounds on that.

Ben, you're the man. Love the content and info.. #Salute

My SRO died during a Dryfire session. Dot had about 1500 rounds through it and never abused. Pulled the trigger while dry firing and the dot disappeared and never came back despite changing batteries. Sent it in to Trijicon and they were unable to repair but sent me a new one. I chalk it up a freak incident and my new one has been perfect but I do have a little hesitation sometimes considering it’s my carry gun.

Ive only had one dot "fail." My 509T without about 10-12k on it had the mount screw sheer off and fly off the gun. I got a new screw from Holosun and its back on the gun. Its a gen 1 509T. My SRO and RMRs always work as well

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As an older guy , low hyperope , strongly binocular , bought a dot . For me revolutionary in a great way. Better situational awareness. No getting head tilt to get front sight focus right in the progressive bifocal helps teach me to improve trigger pull. As the old add goes , try it you’ll like it. A cheat code for better groups.

Dots have hit a point where they’re just kinda great at every reasonable price point. I’m a bullseye guy. High volume .45 shooter. Used to be two players on match .45s: UltraDot and Aimpoint. UDs are an ancient design and have been struggling with OEM issues recently (I’ve killed 3 newer units). Aimpoints are expensive, and it’s hard to find Micros in stock. You know what works? Holosun, Primary Arms, and Sig T1 footprint microtube sights. They hold zero, good glass, great battery life, clean dots, accurate adjustments… all at the $120-220 price point. Unreal. Cheaper than a couple matches’ worth of match .45 loads.

I just went red dot 1st week of May no going back (in general). Holosun 507c

For the record I had sig Romeo pro break after a super high round count ( and a few hard drops onto concrete ) and sig replaced it for free… we will See how long this one lasts

It’s always older gentleman that tell me red dots are a gimmick. They also carry on the hip and refuse to spend the money on an aiwb holster or training.

The only pistol red dot I've ever had fail is an original RMR that was designed before anyone ever envisioned mounting a red dot to the slide of a pistol. I sent it in to trijicon where they did their battery contacts update and I tried the plate with the bump that pushes the battery up but it still didn't work and I decided it wasn't worth pursuing further.

Can you do a video on stock placement in shoulder with a plate carrier, I know matt talks about using the same spot for both

I have two acros and i am all the way into the nerd category. Correct sir!

My issues with dots all but went away once I started using a proper torque wrench (Wheeler fat wrench) and Vibra-tite VC3 threadlocker. Proper mounting seems to be the key for me. Interested to hear the experience of others.

Hi there Ben! I saw you showed an occluded RDS on a Glock. I hag an adverse experience shooting with the sun 60 degrees high me facing in sun’s general direction. - Holosun EPS Carry 6 MOA green. Saw about 3 dots 😁 and green smear. I colluded the sight to mitigate the effect of the sun but failed miserably (was impacting 15” left at about 12 Yds. I am right handed and right eye dominant. I presented pistol and sight before my right eye. I am still wondering what is happening Should I present the gun before my non dominant eye 🙃 I would very much appreciate your opinion and recommendation. Thank you. Eduardo Santiago, Chile

There was a study done, the average gun owner has a single digit round count over the time span they own the gun. As you said, they are a gun owner - not a shooter. I don't get the dot stuff, they've been around forever, they aren't some 'new' thing...they've been around forever. They seem expensive, but compared to buying ammunition, magazines, magazine basepads/followers/springs, and all the other costs associated with shooting - the dot is one of the cheaper things.

I had to get my deltapoint pro repaired after about 10k rounds on my p10c. My firing pin broke before that.

Great information. You mentioned the plates failing more than the dots. What plate do you use for your Glocks? Or do you mill the slide for the holosun optics? Thanks!

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i have an acro due to my fanboyism, the looks, my emotional connection to aimpoint, oh and looks. yeah i know, not afraid to admit it lol i don't regret it one but however ahaha

Will you go to PCSL 2-gun match or NVG match in the future? Will be interesting to see

@Ben Stoeger What do you think a rds should weigh? Some are barely 30 g, some enclosed ones almost 70 g with manufacturers listing it without batteries (mostly just relevant making weight). Aluminum plates also add weight. At what weight or on what pistols does it feel weird or change the impulse negatively? It seems the customers are mostly happy or at least the high shelf ones would feature more Titanium or Magnesium.

Except delta points, sig pistol dots and vortex vipers/razor pistol dots.

Red / Green dot optics is the future and the future is now 👍🏻🇺🇸 Always add about $500+ for an optic when purchasing a new firearm. That’s what sucks.

If you shoot +P ammo mount the optic with Battlewerx screws. Better yet use Battlewerx screws period.

I try to get to the range at least once a month; sometimes, more others less. Since I've been tracking my round count nine years ago, my average is 5.3K/year over all platforms, though primarily handgun, with my highest 8.6K for a year. I know to some that's nothing, but for me, I don't think I'll shoot enough to kill a red dot.

By the end of the class Saturday, my DPP screws had backed out. Site was loose 😂 have to order new screws. Will witness mark this time

Burris Fastfire 2 on my competition GSSF Unlimited gun. Not sure how many thousands through it - but I'd be pissed if it didn't last 20k. It cost me almost 200 bucks.

To what distance do you recommend zeroing a dot?

I dropped my slide with optic on it 1x by accident while taking it apart. Picked it up and SRO Lens was shattered. Got charged 100$ to replace the glass by trijicon.

RDS are enhancements. Duty guns have irons as well. If a RDS fails, well, you're back to the irons. Chiefy is afraid of progress and he's either not aware or has forgotten the number of iron sight failures. ( especially stock glock front sights.) Embrace progress. Keep up with maintenance. I've broken one RMR, most likely because they didn't used to come with torque spec, so it was guess work.

Totally unrelated, but do you happen to know why it's so hard to find a Gen 5 Glock 34? I haven't been able to find one at any of my local FFLs.

That police chief should be mad that his policemen don’t inspect their gear and change batteries instead of just thinking “muh irons don’t need no batteries so they’re better.”

I've been shooting for a little over a year and I'm actually really good at shooting from a standing position. the dot makes a massive difference of anything beyond 20 feet. I bought one of your plates for the shadow too and I really want to thank you for offering decent prices on your website. I will tag you in a video proving my proficiency.

Pistol red dot electronics are not the same as watch electronics. The forces impacted on pistol electronics are far greater than what a watch can endure and is likely to experience. Manufacturers design around this, but issues in manufacturing will manifest with batteries exploding and circuit boards falling apart.

Is a 1 MOA dot okay for a carry gun?

Test the Olight osight

Sig romeo x pro doesnt fit all dpp footprints amd plates even tho the instruction manual says it fits all footprints and plates for the dpp. What a wast of 400$

Ben, it's really not an age thing, because I have 7 Red Dots, you are younger than my kid's. It's more because Red Dots are a new thing. Scopes had the same problems 60 years ago, and now look at them.

If they arent stuck in the past, they are at least out of date.

Oi!

I still like 40. Once you get mastery of recoil it's ova. 9 feels like a 22 after enough work with the 40.

I lose 2-3 per year name brand....

Most "gun owners" maybe get a few hundred rounds a year. People who actually practice with any regularity should be way over that thousand number. Using myself as the example of someone who tries to train but has a very hard time making time for it -- After my first kid was born start of last year, I do one range practice a week, shot about 10k rounds between 9mm and 12ga in the past year. No CCW, no work, I'm a computer guy in a liberal city.

1000rds a year is wild honestly. I was going through 500rds a month at my old job, and 1000 would have been completely possible if I allowed myself to just go ham.

If you are going to call out Paul Howe, at least present his whole argument. He recommends training at about 3000-5000 rounds before carrying it as your duty/carry weapon. How is that unreasonable?

Ben brings a Matt Walsh vibes to the gun community that I just adore

Ill never put a red dot on my carry gun. Its just unnecessary. I have had batteries fail too many times to trust my life with one. Tritium irons are always on my carry pistols. Ben, i feel like you rely too heavily on red dots. Not going to lie.