Curious - how is the bass output on the low end with the 8341A alone and not using a sub?

What are you talking about buddy))) Be careful and read the reliable information on the official website. They indicate the distance for this series of 3-way coaxial monitors starting from 40 centimeters!!! These are the only coaxial monitors with which you can accurately control from 40 centimeters. All other monitors of the usual 3-way configuration will really be able to open Only from 1 meter or more.

@@sergeyleps8492 Nope that is the NOT recommended red zone distance. The recommended Listening Distance and Sound Pressure Level chart on the official Genelec website for the 8341A is less than a 0.5 meter distance (50 centimeters or less) is the red area and is NOT a recommended distance. 1 meter and up is the green area and the minimum recommended distance. In fact, the 8341A user manual clearly states on page 2 Typical listening distances can range from 1 meter to 3 meters depending on room size and SPL requirements. The user manual also shows a diagram on page 4 (figure 5) with them on stands behind the desk.

@@andynonimuss6298 Thanks for clarifying. Yes, you are right. I read information only on the younger model 8331 A

@@sergeyleps8492 The work perfectly in constrained on site mixing (ie for film etc) they are time aligned coaxials

The 8331 diagram in the manual has that model also on stands behind the desk so it doesn't matter if you get 8331 or 8341 the listening distance is the same near field but 8341 has lower bass extension and more powerful. The listening chart red zone for the coaxial ones is green for 0.5m and not even red under 0.5m but orange which doesn't mean bad just means not optimal.

This series is simply Excellent with the New Amplifier! But - a subwoofer is still needed.

@@sergeyleps8492 they play down to 32Hz or lower depending on room. so most ppl really do not need a Subwoofer with them

RME is the way. Ucx2 or higher. If you really need inputs, UFX 2, +, or the new 3 if you REALLY need I/O

Still loving Apollo x6, 2-X8’ and a twin quad X for desk top remote and talk back

they play down to 38Hz and in room maybe even lower! with them you might not need a Subwoofer unless you want 16-38Hz reproduction as well (aka rest of the audible range for a human)

They run nice in the lower registers.

@noxz can you answer this one please? I am interested too!

they look like the K&M tabletop stands, something like the 28772?@@the_mze

Me too, I wanna know!

Found em. K&M 26772 or the larger 26774

Yeah I’ve got a few of those I’m editing at the moment :)

Just for one. A pair is twice more

@@oxyoxi3213 Haha for real I’m running 8030c with the amazing must have 7050c subwoofer Moving into D-atmos eventually But my first investment was Apollo X racks

Nothing wrong with the Scarlett. Converters has improved tremendously the last 10 years and in 2023 the sonic difference between a 400$ and a 4000$ converter is extremely minimal.

That’s what Behringer said when I bought the 8200 ultra for 8 spdif adat for my Apollo x6 rack and then I used a ten year old Audient asp880 and it was night and day But in support of quality converters today sure then exist in less expensive gear they have for some time but the difference between a $300 cirrus logic or AKM converter chip in the 8200 and a $1300 burr brown asp880 is that the former is bottom to low mid quality and performance the BB is mid to high mid But get into something like Crane Song Solaris dac for high end editing and mastering. 1. greatly increased depth resolution My recordings always have a lot of depth and this dac presented the depth in a way that no other dac has done. 2. tonally more accurate than other dacs--all frequencies very defined. Change from Benchmark was revolutionary. Bettered the DAD we have here. Bettered the PrismSound we have here. 3. hyper detailed sound without exaggeration That being said it's the design and implementation of the various support circuits around them (power supplies, voltage references, clock, analog stages, etc.) that is likely to make as much, if not more, difference to the overall sound and those wrappers are not on the lower priced gear You gotta look at the big picture of that $4000 converter I did not want to spend $8000 for Neve Shelfords and I had plenty of time to try them out and send them back But that simply is not happening they are that good If you really can’t hear it as your track count multiplies, and your stacking, quad guitar tracks, Keys, horns, overly miked drum kits Deep, edit effects that are invisible on most gear And still get a crisp detailed lead vox track punching through Then maybe you need to invest in much better near fields, cans or and I do not mean this as an insult some folks just can’t hear it. I can’t tell you how many “producers” i’ve met in my 44 years that don’t know how to use a compressor correctly or even hear the differences in detail changes made on the hardware, they just can’t hear it

I think if you just need it to adjust volume playing through the monitors, it's quite OK.