Now will we ever get the 7 Heavenly Virtues of Card Game Design

If you think The Stack is complicated, you’d faint if you saw what Magic had before.

Faceless Butcher is why these days, effects like this are one ability that lasts as long as the ‘kidnapper’ is in play. If the card isn’t there when the ability resolves, nothing happens.

In YGO something like faceless butcher would simply trigger in a new chain (a new stack) and once a stack starts resolving, nothing gets added on that. Trigger effect will happen in a new stack at resolution of the previous

Cool. The 7 Sins was a good series, so I’m looking forward to this.

Interestingly, in Yu-Gi-Oh, the Faceless Butcher effect would form a new chain and end up putting the card back on the field.

Oh my, hold my gravy and butter my biscuits. Its time for high quality TCG analysis.

Your video about the 7 deadly tcg sins inspired me to make my own card game. When it's ready, I'd love to show it to you.

You mentioned not doing a dedicated video on YuGiOh, but I feel like a video about modern Yugioh would be very interesting - currently Yugioh is, by far, the most unique card game out there gameplay wise, so I'd love to hear your thoughts on it

Another factor about the strength of card draw is how quickly the players' hands can be emptied. In Yugioh, the only constraining factors on your turn are your one normal summon and board space, so it's not unusual for both the cards you drew to be active immediately. In a game like Magic, though, it might be Land cards you can't play right now, or a card that's too expensive for the stage of the game you're in.

I literally just re-watched the whole series over the last 2 days because I'm working on my own TCG idea, so this is excellent timing! 💙 I could listen to you talk about TCG design for hours tbh. I love learning about game design any chance I get.

On the matter of Faceless Butcher - it is important to note that there is nothing *requiring* the person playing Rescind to do so 'in response' to the trigger. They can simply let the trigger resolve (removing the targeted creature), and *then* Rescind the Butcher, causing it to return the removed creature as intended. In many of the 'funky stack' scenarios that are cited, it is not so much that the Stack, or even the card itself, is at fault, but that players are either misinformed or misguided into playing their responses in a way that screws with the rules in unpleasant ways. Faceless Butcher works *just fine*. The problem is that there *is* a moment in time where, *if* a player plays their response in that window, it works counterintuitively - but nothing *requires* a player to play their response in that window. They can just not do that, and the card will work as intended. It would be a very good idea, when designing such a system, to find some way to avoid those kinds of 'windows of bad timing'. Many games end up with them due to poor planning or questionable choices of design. I'm thinking about YGO cards that 'miss their timing' due to the if/when/then rules; or indeed things like Faceless Butcher that can 'glitch out' and leave a creature trapped when that isn't intended. In the case of Faceless Butcher, they actually found a way to keep their Stack working as intended and solving the problems it was designed to solve, while still making cards like Butcher work without 'glitches'. Newer cards that have similar effects have a different sort of wording - "Exile target creature *until* this leaves battlefield.". (Exile being the same thing as 'remove from game' in this case). Thus, there is only one trigger, not two, with the effect of that trigger having a *duration*. If that duration expires before the effect properly begins, then the effect never begins, because its duration is expired. If the Butcher had this wording, then there would be no way to 'strand' a creature outside the game with it, and many newer cards that want a similar effect without that option use the newer working. By the same token, however, WotC *hates* rules-text errata nowadays. A card should function how it is printed; unless it doesn't function at all as printed, then changing existing cards' wordings is not something they want to do. This is why you'd more likely see a New Card with a better wording, than to see them change the wording on the old card. This was not always WotC's policy, of course. This does mean that older cards can often end up with 'weird' interactions, but that is considered a small price to pay for people not having to look up whether or not every card has new text that isn't on the card they have. If a card is so badly overpowered or game-breaking in its original text that something must be done, they'd rather just ban the card and make a new card at some point that (hopefully) isn't broken. This policy has its own pros and cons, naturally.

I look forward to more insights into the TCG ladnscape. I've played yugioh for nearing 20 years but that never translated to interest until the medium as a whole until your series got recommended to me at around the 3rd sin. I'm really looking forward to playing the digimon cardgame, mostly thanks to you. So I'm glad to hear you're doing an errata series because you've helped me get more invested with the cardgame climate/trade. Look forward in the future~

Thank you so much for this! I will check out the DUEL MAsters thing and your VIDS! I am here to learn!

Well there is a simple explanation for the stack : imagine you are in a pistol duel , your opponent shoots first but you shoot a little later and you both end up shot. The fact that you touched your opponent does not make the bullet he shot disappear ! A little complement: mtg actually changed the way the new cards similar to the card you mentionned before, you can find this kind of effect but it will read : "When x enters the battlefield, exile target creature untils x leaves the battlefield" the fact that it's the same sentence makes it being one ability and not two.

Yes! So happy this one is back!!! I love your 7 deadly sins videos!

The Faceless Butcher effect has been solved actually. While they haven't errata'ed old cards that have the "bug", new cards (like Banisher Priest/Banishing Light) use a "delayed trigger" in the same ability.

I don't like using "good" and "bad" as descriptors, either, mainly because one man's trash is another's treasure. "Grounded," "disconnected," "conceivable," and "convoluted" all paint clearer pictures, anyway.

In Yugioh, faceless butcher would work as intended since triggered effects wait until the current chain (the Yugioh equivalent to stack) ends.

I remember learning about Errata Text in my Pokemon tcg manuals. Hehehe I am so ready for this series. For the Pokemon, Yugioh, and Magic topics, I would still love to hear your opinions on the games. It doesn't have to be the "history of x" but like some of your favorite little mechanics or moments in those series. Like little appreciation nuggets or factoids . Or like mini rants about mismanagement? idk. Just love hearing you talk about these things!

About not talking in depth about the big 3, even with all their dedicated youtube channel, coming from watching magic content you express mechanics and gameplay on a meta level scale sooo much better and clearer than anything I've watched, so if those games help inform more videos like they have in your past videos im always interested in hearing more from you on them!

i feel that the digimon case tries to tell us something

That hat and googles are so cool! Those details on the side look great.

Back in the first five years of Magic, we did not have just Instants and Sorceries, we also had Interrupts and Mana Sources. Both of which were at Instant speed, but were very clunky in terms of execution. In terms of Mana Sources, they were a spell that just granted you more mana. Interrupts had a whole damned decision tree in terms of how to interact with them, at one point it was given the dubious honor of being shown in maze form in Duelist Magazine. When Sixth Edition was put into design, WotC knew that a little pruning was in order. This was when the stack was introduced and interrupts and mana sources were folded into instants for any standard set printed after. That isn't to say that they didn't try Sorceries with Flash before this, as All three Portal sets (no GLADoS references here) only had creatures, Lands and sorceries.

The stack can be pretty complicated, but the key to remember is ‘does the effect negate the effect of the target?’ If yes then resolve with that in mind. If no, then resolve with that in mind. It’s something that isn’t always stated in the rule books, so it becomes really annoying to deal with since it’s an exercise in logic.

what a great name. im super excited for this

Yet another video that makes me grateful that I'm a Yu-Gi-Oh player

Lov these videos!!! Hope you get my stuff soon!!!

I hope we'll see an episode of that featuring Redakai and another about LCGs.

The stack, for all its flaws, is the best solution to the problem it solves. MTG wants things like counterspell, and a large variety of ways to preemptively respond to effects before they take place. It allows for fun, splashy back and forths where my creature is about to die from damage but I make it bigger but in response you try to kill it again but in response to **that** I play a counterspell and negate it. If you want this sort of thing, the stack is the best way, the chain Yu-gi-oh has is a poor substitute. The reason why it's the best way to do "instant speed" effects is because it's based on real mathematics concepts. A stack in computers is the opposite of a queue. One is FIFO (first in, first out) and the other is FILO (first in, last out). The stack is a pile of dirty dishes that you wash from the top down, from the newest plate to the oldest. That simplicity means that it's far easier to explain than chain-blocking or whatever YGO has going on. The problems show up when you aren't sure what a plate is. Faceless Butcher (and Fiend Hunter and Angel of Serenity and Ashiok's Erasure and Detention Sphere and...) seem like one plate: remove a card from play until the kidnapper disappears. But since it's actually two plates, they can be put in the stack in the wrong order and unintuitive things happen. This has since been solved by making it one plate on cards like Banisher Priest (although sometimes they use the old wording for some reason). The stack makes designing cards a lot harder because you need to "stack proof" things. Ultimately, the stack isn't a bad design choice (and that's kind of obvious since MTG is so popular). It's just a tool that requires more effort to use as a designer and makes your game more complicated for players to understand. Most of the time, that's a trade-off not worth making, even if MTG is my favorite card game by far.

I’d love to see a series where you cover different games like Duel Masters/Kaijudo with multiple versions of the same game. Example VS System and the 2PCG version.

When someone did the faceless butcher trick on me back in the day it blew my mind! I think it's a case that helps explain the stack better once you wrap your head around it. The stack is not as bad as you're making it out to be and other games lacking instant speed spells and abilities I think are a hindrance. Playing arena really helps visualize the stack better and once you see how easy it is you can use instants more to your advantage. Also, one thing I think that holds back a lot of card games is their flexibility in formats. Not just standard and vintage or what have you, but different ways to play. In Magic you can also draft, play sealed and the biggest one right now is Commander (100 card singleton). But like Pokemon I tried to get back into but there's nothing similar to any of those so I lose interest quick. And Star Wars Destiny sold a special set of cards just to have a base deck to be able to draft and that game failed because of multitude of reasons.

The recent digital TCG based on League of Legends (which I can't remember the name of now!) has even more complicated timing rules, especially priority rules. I was very very confused when I started playing because it wasn't clear why I could sometimes respond to things and not other similar things. The good thing about them is that the strategy of the game flows from what things you are allowed to do at various times, so it's not like the weird rules aren't in service of a greater good, but if it's not the first card game you've played featuring timing windows and priority, you are going to make a lot of mistakes and get bewildered at some of the results. Being a digital TCG that enforces the rules is a two-edged sword: you don't have to argue with your friends about what happens, but at the same time you don't understand why something just happened instead of what you were expecting.

Nice to see a follow up series. I like to learn about card games

I will admit the stack can get very complicated at times in games like magic. However, I can't help but chuckle at the ease of Butcher Combo compared to some of the BULL I've seen in some commander games. On that note: know it likely wouldn't be for some time, but would you ever do a video on variants for different card games. (Alternate rules sets like commander, Planechase, or judges tower in MTG being my example. I'm not familiar enough with other games to give examples for those. Could argue any games limited format counts to this also though)

A highly relevant video!! :P

i like this series. glad it's back.

I don't want to be rude, but when I saw "Errata" I thought you've made a very serious mistake in the series. So bad it warranted a video. Love seeing more contect, though! :)

Interactions between cards like faceless butcher and rescind are the reason that I love magic so much

I can attest that the binder is not the reason I personally got chills when listening to the duel monsters errata text opening. It is simply the concepts that the code states in such a solemn tone that gives it such a feeling of... wisdom? Chivalry? Experience? Something like that; it just gives off a kind of powerful vibe.

The weird thing to me about this video is the comments section. So many people saying that that isn't how Faceless Butcher works and it blows my mind, because from where I'm at that is very obviously how it works. MTG's stack being LIFO always has been the case, and you very obviously can respond to an ETB trigger. To think otherwise would require a bunch of bizarre rules exceptions. Why would anyone think the rules warp around this one card just to make it work when all the printed text on the card make sense within the frame of the game's mechanics? For it to not work that way it'd need to be worded as a single trigger.

Hey, I really love your series, keep up the good work! I was wondering, you ofyen mention "other channels" that have covered certain topics. Id be really interested in checking those out as well but you dont mention their names or link them in the description. Do you think you would ever do that?

Really enjoying this series, have you ever thought about discussing complexity or upkeep of card games? You've discussed the immaculate card game, buy I'm wondering if there is enough material to discuss card games that fail under the weight of having to keep up with a bunch of stats and numbers. Just a thought.

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See, part of the confusion also comes from what happens when a new effect triggers during the resolution of a stack. It actually differs between games. For some games, it starts a new stack that would only resolve after the entirety of the first stack. But for others, it gets added to the first stack(and is resolved as soon as it is added, being the top of the stack). And then there is the question of whether you can use new effects(or optional effects) during resolution or when a thing is added to the stack due to the resolution of the stack(and it being the type of adding to stack as opposed to new stack). While the rules are consistent within a game, it isn't always consistent between different games, which creates more confusion if a player plays multiple games and/or is trying to learn a new one.

Way more complex stack interactions include what happens if you end the turn when a trigger is on the stack, such as a flicker effect's delayed trigger. Or how replacement effects work if multiple would apply.

Only got to play duel masters a few times in 5th grade. Grew up in a Yugioh household so didn’t get to go too far outside of my family’s comfort zone. Would kill for a modern video game of it so I could play. Same with the new digimon tcg

I still think you could come up a pretty good discussion of balancing.

I was wondering if you could do a video on the Chaotic TCG, since it had an awesome design and mechanics. I unfortunately was never able to obtain any Chaotic cards, but I found the recent Transformers TCG to have mechanics reminiscent of Chaotic. Honestly, Transformers or Chaotic would each be an interesting video 🤔

What's your opinion on mechanics that allow a player to in the middle of a ongoing game add cards from thier side deck to their hand?

Cool idea, Silent Jester

Hope Kohdok can talk about the game of “Battle spirits” as it does not been mention on the 7 deadly sins

when you talk about faceless butcher it really confusing me but when you give an example of MST. okay, i understand now. lol

The next level version of the Faceless Butcher interaction is Parallax Wave + Opalescence

Id love to see a video about The spoils tcg!

Faceless Butcher seems more like an example of brain-dead rulings than any problem inherent to the concept of the stack.

An idea I saw once that I'm increasingly buying into: "Any game mechanic can be a good one, so long as it's in service to the right game." So thank you for your approach to game mechanics not as, "Mechanic bad," but "Mechanic makes this particular game worse/better."

Idea for the Bakugan TCG: Change the life decking mechanic into a system similar to Duel Masters, while also changing effects related to the original life decking. 5 Shields (I would call them “Baku-Guards” to fit the naming scheme) that get taken from the top 5 cards of the deck before starting hands are drawn and are then broken and added to the hand of the player taking damage, breaking 3 shields with a Team Attack. An example of changing the mechanics intrinsically tied to life decking would be to make it to where Bakugan with DoubleStrike break two shields instead of one if they win a Brawl, or that a Bakugan with FrostStrike (being changed to make it actually a relevant game mechanic) puts the shield they break in the discard pile instead of the hand. Going further (and implementing the “shield trigger” system), Flip cards can be played from the hand in this system, but can be played immediately for no Energy cost if they are picked up from being a shield when the player takes damage. Damage stopping flip cards would still be playable, but obviously much worse then they currently are with the life decking mechanic. The damage rating of a Bakugan would still be there, with a notable added rule that a Bakugan with a damage rating of zero is incapable of breaking a shield and thus incapable of progressing the game state if it even does win a brawl. Just an idea that I think would solve the Bakugan TCG’s biggest problem, aka TCG design sin #2. Would love to hear people’s thoughts on the idea, and to see if we could make this actually happen.

Here’s my kind of question; what about games like dice masters? Doesn’t that kinda break the rule of “cards and maybe dice and counters”? What about games that have you use your phone while playing?

Issues with faceless butcher are already solved by having the ETB effect include the leaving effect. For example, Banishing Light specifies "Exile target non-land permanent until Banishing Light leaves the battlefield" and in this case the Stack actually forced the rules text writers to make a card that is much easier to understand and with less text overall than what butcher was going for.

Do u ever plan on doing a video on the old bakugan Vs new bakugan

This looks fun. Will you do an episode on how to "design" a wild west era card game?

IMO stack stuff is really interesting but I get how it might be complex. Also why faceless butcher instead of OBLIVION RING

Id like to see you review metazoo! I dont know anything about it except hearing about it. Id just like to see what you think about it

I miss that binder, was really neat to pull out when they first came out. Before that one it was the bland, solid color 1" or 1.5" binders back then.

im a day late but where did u get that hat i want one

One thing I have noticed is your use of the terms "speed" when talking about instants and sorceries. One of the things that Mark Rosewater likes to stress is that there is no such thing as a speed to a card for Magic. Instant just means you can play it whenever you have priority, even during another players turn. Sorceries are only during your own main phases, if the stack is empty. I think it was Yu-Gi-Oh that introduced speeds with where things can be on the chain or something, but Magic just has "the stack" and it builds up and down. Speed implies that you could play something "faster" than another spell, which you are not since you are still going in a specified order (Whatever is on the top of the stack is the first to resolve, with priority being passed in between each resolution). Even with early interrupts and mana sources, those again were not speeds, but just had rules baggage as to when they could be played and if they used the stack. Colloquialisms such as "in response" tend to be construed as one being faster than the other caster, but it is more akin to reading your opponent and being prepared with said response. Again, just because I have an Instant card in my hand, if I don't have priority, it doesn't matter that I could cast it because it is not "faster" than anything you could do while you maintain priority. That is a great interaction with Faceless Butcher, but they have leaned away from those abilities being two different triggers and are just one now. If you try to do that with cards like Banishing Light, the card being targeted just kind of sits there since the Banishing Light left before the triggered ability finished resolving.

You think Duel Masters will ever come back or some variation of it?

In the next video follow up, could you talk about availability of the game. How to find it, ways to play it, as well as price, and ability to get cards from any product (as opposed to needing a starter set to start the game like keyforge did)

Any plans to talk about Chaotic?

Kohdok "Chess is too complicated! It needs to be simplified to checkers rules!"

“If you got chills from watching that ...” *Stares at kaijudo tattoo on ribs *

Ooh. I would like to have more videos like the deadly sins. The series did inspire me to improve my own card game. Before I had a lot of different kinds of counters. Later on I trimmed it down to one kind. Then I had cards being used as resources instead of other kinds of counters. I think errata text could be helpful for Magic the Gathering. As the game evolves it develops new jargon. So a long form explaination can go to a word with reminder text and then just the word. In old cards sometimes the card will explain the long way to take cards from a deck and put them in the graveyard. In modern terms this is called milling. So the card can be changed to say mill, and the mechanics are unchanged. The newest Magic cards say mill where appropriate. Even the deadly sins videos talked about milling. It is in the video about life decking. There are two Magic cards in this video. They are really old. I can tell by the border. Faceless Butcher has very convoluted text. That can use errata text. It should say "exile". Rescind is a bit shorter but it could still be simplified. Maybe cards like that should say bounce. I never seen a card that says bounce. They are always explained the long way. Bounce is still part of the jargon. I wonder if that it is ever going to be made official. I like to use Brazen Borrower for bounce. I have notice something. If I try to bounce a creature right after it comes down, the enter the battle effect still happens. It seems rather screwy with the stack. For creatures with a powerful enter the battle ability, it is probably better to play it safe and use a counterspell if possible. The thing about card draw is wierd. The right thing to do in this situation is to give a cost to such a spell card and put it on the power curve. It seems obvious to me. Magic the Gathering always has some resource cost for card draw spells. In some situations it can involve paying life or sacrificing creatures. This would be card draw done right. It is odd. Pokemon has resource cards for the creatures. However all of the spells don't use up resource cards. For Yu-Gi-Oh I am just baffled. I know very little about this game. I know that high level creatures can only be summoned if one uses lower level creatures. So that slows things down so the pace isn't rediculous. I don't know how Yu-Gi-Oh handles powerful spell and trap cards. Do they require weaker spells and traps to be used some how? Do they require high level monsters to be in play? I don't know. I am not sure how Yu-Gi-Oh can work without some kind of resource system. What is there to stop a lucky player from putting down thier strongest cards and winning on turn one or two? I know there is a limit for high level creatures. However I wonder if that is enough.

Damn he knows what pot of freedom does

I'm mostly a Yugioh player but if I had to guess, Faceless Butcher would enter the field trigger, and if responded to it'd go: -counter/negate? then things stop there. -something makes it leave the field? then you will probably have the option to respond to the opponent, but assuming you don't, Faceless Butcher will leave the field and then its effect will fizzle due to requiring to stay on the field to do things. The second part of the effect would not have the chance to become confusing like that with that ruling, but even if we got into a weird hypothetical scenario that caused that (IDK how), the second effect would wait for that stack to fully resolve and THEN immediately kick in as a new stack. Something in the previous stack would have officially triggered that effect, but without the first effect in the previous stack yet resolving, you still don't meet the conditions for the returning effect to even apply (I doubt it tries to trigger if/whenever it exists on the field with no creatures exiled this way and is forced out, so in a stacking scenario that'd be the same). As a Yugioh player, there's also the chance the second effect is a continuous effect so it wouldn't interact with stacks at all. It'd just happen without respecting whatever stack we got going on. Yugioh's got something called PSCT that explains if an effect is continuous, quick, or what parts of it are costs and whatnot. I think it's one o the things that works well about the game even if I can imagine outsiders to the game thinking it might be a bit complicated, maybe you also see it like that IDK, but it'd be interesting to hear your take in a video about it. Samples of Yugioh cards that do stuff in a continuous way that disrespects stack, look for "Maestroke" that protects itself using up ammo, and even though something else pays for that protection, it isn't made to stack because in the game, you can't just go elsewhere to do something else until the stack fully resolves and is done with, and every bit of the stack can only be directly addressed by the pancake directly on top of it in the stack (if that makes sense... sometimes stuff indirectly affect the outcome of something at the bottom but for the sake of this we shall not dwell too deep). If your protection effect had to stack, it'd have to wait around for the stack and wait the turn to protect, and many players would exploit that ability to "Miss the timing" and make the whole interaction more complicated to understand than "fuck the stack".

While I get not doing a history of the most popular TCGs and what all they did right, I’d be down for a series about the history of now defunct TCGs and analyze what they did right and eventually why they were discontinued. Though you can probably avoid licensed cash grab games unless they’re lumped together just to sort of say “I acknowledge these existed and it’s at least a little interesting that they existed once upon a time”.

Pretty sure Oblivion Ring is, nowadays, a more famous example than Faceless Butcher

To be fair about Faceless Butcher, that is a 7-mana and 2-card combo just to exile a creature, in colors that have very efficient counterspells and targeted creature destruction, so even though it’s confusing I think it’s cool that the rules are work-aroundy like that

have you thought about talking (or already have) about the Megaman NT Warrior tcg? I've seen all the 7 deadly sins videos and I don't remember it being mentioned, but NT Warrior tcg committed SEVERAL of the sins, like lifedecking, unmixable attributes, 3 sets before the age of 2, few gimmicky features on the third set, it was licensed on the american version of the TV show and you kinda needed the playing mat at first cuz of the card areas.

Still crossing my fingers on a Monster Club video >.

Faceless Butcher really should've been called Candle...some name starting with J.

How do you feel about the munchkin card game

I love faceles butcher as an example, it cements the necessity use of keywords as shorthand in games. Hearthstone might not be super deep but that simplicity means the really weird effects barely ever cause arguments that way. Their versions were either one-and-done on play unblockables, or something tied to a deathrattle - the specific and common way of removing a card. If you had that card played on you, it was your fault if you silenced it.

Speaking of erratas, what about a segment where an errata isn't just for clarification or typos, but actually nerfs the card? What is the advantage over leaving such a card banned, and releasing a new card with the effect you want to achieve?

I made two yugioh decks that both create traffic jams when it comes to the stack. They're meant to be played against one another and use cards during the damage step a LOT. Don't know why I did it, but my friend Joey and I always have a laugh when we play the decks

Honestly i find the stack fairly intuitive, at least compared to LAYERS. you need a phd for the most extreme layer problems. Stuff like the butcher problem is avoided now by making it a single effect, instead of 2 separate ones.

If you want another example of the stack getting messy, may I introduce Apex Devastator who simply has Cascade, Cascade, Cascade, Cascade as its ability. Wizards is well aware of the mess this causes to the point where this is the last line of one of its rulings "In other words, each cascade ability cares only about the spell that caused it to trigger, the stack can get messy, and we wish you luck."

I'm curious, are there any card games other than the big 3 that you would recommend getting into in 2021? Between your video's and YuGiOh's nostagia, i want to get into a card game again but none of the big 3 really work for me. I really don't like magic's mana, yugioh seems like a LOT nowadays, and i tried pokemon but bounced off of it.

Radekai getting its big video?

Magic can have it bad with stack interactions sometimes, but spell speed, the chain and missing timing take the cake for me in terms of timing and a stack like effect. Yugioh managed to take the stack from magic, and then add random confusing rules on top cause they didnt know how to write cards early in the game, and just ran with it

You should just do "7 deadly sins: Sin #8"

I hope you talk about unnecessary erratas as well. Konami did my boy Goyo Guardian dirty.

Faceless Butcher, and Oblivion Ring, are the reason they changed the wording on newer cards to say "*until* [CARDNAME] leaves" instead of using the "*When* [CARD NAME] leaves"..

part of the problem with the stack happens because it's an abstract mechanic in a physical game that doesn't track itself. You have to "imagine" that the card created an effect that goes to the stack independent of the source

A bit late now but a game that does the stack well is legends of rune Terra an online tcg based of league of legends

6:07 I think the idea (at least in the designers' minds) for draw cards in Pokemon TCG is the game has a soft version of life decking. If you ever run out of cards in your deck, you immediately lose the game. So for example, for a card like Lady from the Forbidden Light set who lets you take 4 energy cards at once from your deck, it's "balanced" by bringing you that much closer to running out of cards.

Keeping a spare set of keys in your wallet seems dangerous man. If you have ID in there it becomes pretty easy for someone to find your house and break in.

I clicked on this thinking I'd learn about actual errata text...

I think Yu-Gi-Oh would be worth talking about in regards to hope different it is from the games you usually talk about. Its resource mechanic (or lack thereof) goes completely against convention. You can do one normal summon per turn. That's it, that's the only resource you have, the rest of your cards are only limited by the text on them. Which, after 20 years of one upping each other, has gone quite crazy. I don't know if they is any other card game where you go through half of your deck in a single turn, of where your discard pile (and for some decks, the discard of your discard pile, which means there also is a discard pile for the discard pile of the discard pile, banishing face down) is considered a second hand.

That thing about the Butcher card reminds me of "missing the timing" in Yugioh. Although I can only think of one example atm, which is more a problem of the effect text and minor differences, specifically If vs When. They should mean the same thing, but effect text saying "If X happens; do Y", The Y effect will always occur after a chain involving X happening. Effect text saying "When X happens; do Y", The Y effect will only occur if the last part of the chain was X. So if X happens in the middle of a chain, the Y effect would miss the timing and not occur.