Tomlin is the only coach with no losing seasons

Shady will forever defend the coach that gave him a free ring lmao. Dude has ZERO touches in his SB playoff runs and acts like he was the star RB. Thats why he will defend Reid coz Shady got that SYMPATHY RING thanks to Reid.

Bill Belichick made Brady so he's the Goat duh

SHADY YOURE TERRIBLE! Glad you took the lab diamonds off 😂😂😂

She lost it miserably

She loses every debate she is a circus clown who can barely speak a full sentence

​@user-ty6kr3yu2h she actually won it by a mile and I actually disagree with what she was saying but Shady was getting emotional. Joy explained her side concisely.

Love Joy she makes the show seem to leave personal thoughts out

Joy is a joke of an analyst ..only employed for 2 reason....I'll let your imagination figure out what those are

He's wrong. Just plain ignorance at its fullest

Could argue that Acho also has some smoothbrain takes and does not belong on tv either

Shady on a gummy. They finna get him off the show. He going back to podcasts

@@israelrodriguez4643acho couldnt even get on the field

Can we just not have McCoy on the show when we talk about Andy and Patrick he's up there a** it's not funny no more

Exactly Gibbs better

Thank you!!

Gibbs is the goat to me and I'm a steelers fan but Andy won games and got to a sb without Mahomes Bill can't even have a winning season without BRADY THE GOAT QB Gibbs can when a sb with me at qb or you the GOAT coach period

And Andy Reid coached under Mike Holmgren.

@@scottandrews9453 Exactly, the coaching tree under Bill Walsh is extensive and has a lot of branches.

This whole show is frustrating because they're so obsessed with rings when that's only one aspect of a player's or coach's career. Also Andy Reid's tree, for what it's worth, already includes 3 Super Bowl-winning coaches (Bowles, Pederson, Harbaugh).

Both teams in this SB, one of which Shady lusts over, runs that offense. Shady became HIM in that very offense, lol

You are right but the question Shady asked wasn't wrong though. He kept asking Joy and James okay who are the notable players he coached. If you asked them about Belichek they can easily name the players (mind you he's more current so it'll be easier). But with the older guys they couldn't name anyone. If you can't name them one of two things happened, either you aren't aware like acho mentioned or they weren't notable. In this case it was the earlier.

He at least made it. What has Belicheck done without Tom. Reid always has his team as a contender no matter who the QB is.

@@wajahatjafri7246 He still had Donovan, give BB someone as good as Donovan and he'd still be coaching in NE right now.

The difference is Bill had a terrible record before he got Tom, and Andy made it to the SB and had actual coaching success. McNabb wasn’t nice like that, and Andy revitalized Alex Smith. Bill had 1/6 winning season before he landed Tom. Andy made the playoffs in like 13/19 seasons and made several championship games and a SB before landing Pat.

@blackanimelover18 lol the same Donovan that he drafted because he knows the difference between good players vs bad ones? Don't forget Bill is the one who chose those players and didn't do anything with them

Gotta play both sides and be fair to Reid and Belichik

Regardless of schedule size, it's impressive. When coaches like McDaniels get jobs really show how good of a coach Shula was.

Didn't Shula coach for over 30 years though?

@@Opinlinz yes.

The one point I think shady is missing before Brady went to Tampa he was still considered a system quarterback but that changed when he went to Tampa now a lot of people think Brady is more to the Patriots Dynasty than Bill was

Facts!!!

Shady lost me when he said Andy better than Madden and Lombardi. 😮😅😅😅 like bro. U disrespecting the football GODS now.

@@jakieresykes3644 true I just think Brady and Belichick had the perfect partnership. Belichick found his franchise guy that could spread his message in the locker room and someone who turned into a great leader. Brady took his opportunity and learned how to be a great QB and seldomly cost his team the game.

Andy Reid made Patrick lol cut it out

and ignorant...that's a deadly combination.

Shady is stupid

Feelings overload..

Dudes a clown he just wants to be right

​@boricuafrican1 very ignorant. As if Don shula never even existed

Thirsty comment is thirsty

Game Changer no doubt.

She aight

Fo' real

@@Charles-3900 decent at its decentest 😂

I have to agree with you. The media is trash 🗑. Only an idiot could try to discredit Belichick. So many great players on the defensive side of the Patriots who contributed. In addition no one got more from less for years on offensive than Belichick. Teams win championships.

Facts

Shady makes no sense and ALL of his takes are trash. Him saying that since he didn't see these great coaches coach like Walsh, Gibbs, and Lamberti is like him saying MLK wasn't a great leader of civil rights because he didn't hear the speeches. @FS1 please spare all of your viewers and fire @Shady McCoy. His stupidity knows no bounds.

I rarely watch because of Acho. He just annoys me with his absurd takes but shady took the title of the biggest idiot today. Smh

Shady need his analyst card snatched ASAP.

Dave couldn't take it and bounced.

Shady wack.

@@boricuafrican1 Yeah, I sense that he was not with the circus show

Because there is no getting around how silly this man sounds this episode. 🤡

I skimmed through this whole segment and everytime I stopped he was talking. . . I'd be annoyed too.

What do you mean ?

how can you not when the person opposite is saying, "who dem old guys? who? who dat???"

​@@boricuafrican1Right! Shady makes anybody look smarter.

Like always

@@georgetrevino3532 meaning she made the most sense the whole segment.

Bill had 7+ games where the defense held the other team under 10 points. The offense was trash, he essentially had 2 bench QBs. Anything competent and they have a much better record.

While I don’t disagree, what about the amount of players Bill has sent to the pro bowl? He’s only coached 2 players to the Pro Bowl in his entire career

​@@p_squaredd8323Mike McCarthy just coached like 20 pro bowlers this past season. What does that mean?

@@p_squaredd8323 the Patriots have never been a big brand team. They have had great players that just flew under the radar. They weren't the flashy team. Just the disciplined and consistent team. That doesn't get you to the pro bowl. Ratings does

Facts. That's one of thr traits of a person who does not know what they talking about. They over talk you

not really...you draft a QB that low, you don't have significant plans for him...he's your 4th or 3rd string QB basically, which Brady was originally. Fortunately for Brady, he was kept and was #2 backing Bledsoe when Bledsoe went down...Bill had no choice but to start Brady for the majority of the season. Andy Reid made trades to draft Mahomes in round one, eventually started Mahomes, and traded Smith. one hit the jackpot while the other made good investments.

@@boricuafrican1Like he said didn’t Belichick draft and mold Tom Brady and taught him how to read defenses and coverages/schemes

Qb’s back then weren’t as coveted as now . The league became qb centric when Tom became the face of the league.

@@user-lt1fx2he5s doubt he even really knew who Tom was the 1st year...the 2nd year Bledsoe went out in game 2...I'd give more of the credit to the offensive coordinator honestly.

Brady drafted himself and played defense, thats how people talk about him. I say the first 3 Super Bowls 60% Bill 40% Tom, last 3 Super Bowls 60% Tom 40% Bill.

Ok so tell us about them.. don’t tell me superbowls wins because all the great have a superbowl.. tell me who they develop like he didn’t with Andy Reid.. tell me who they coach like he did with Andy Reid that’s his point

@@wade2xx552 Dumb as shady and acho on this take

​@wade2xx552 He point is ignorant and anecdotal. He played under Andy Reid. That is the only reason he knows anything about him, clearly. It shows because he knows nothing about any other coach. I don't think he knows anything. I think he is up there for a paycheck.

@@wade2xx552 Tom Landry was THE Coach who made the Dallas Cowboys America's Team! He developed a program that began in 1960 as an expansion team. The team was the worst team in football for a few years as they failed to win a game in their inaugural season. Success in the pro football world and the "glory years" didn't come easily. Playing in the storied Cotton Bowl, the 1960 Cowboys had to settle for one tie in 12 games and Dallas didn't break even until its sixth season in 1965. But in 1966, the Cowboys began an NFL-record streak of 20 consecutive winning seasons. That streak included 18 years in the playoffs, 13 divisional championships, five trips to the Super Bowl and victories in Super Bowls VI and XII. Now, you can't do ALL of that without having the ability to developed players and into a system of winning. Landry developed Rodger Staubach to be successful at the NFL level. Staubach was in the NAVY at had to serve his time before he could play in the league. You think he just came out of the Navy and on his OWN became a SUPERSTAR QB? Tom Landry had a hand in Staubach's rise in the NFL. Drew Pearson was an undrafted free agent from the University of Tulsa who would have struggled to make it in the League on any team. He was small and SLOW for a Wide Receiver and Tom Landry could have CUT him. Instead HE developed Drew to become a Hall Of Fame Level Receiver. Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson played college football at NAIA, HBCU Langston University. Who in the WORLD would have drafted a kid from a program that many High School teams could beat? Henderson became an ELITE Linebacker for the Cowboys!! Tom Landry had a hand in his development!! And, let's not forget BOB HAYES!! Hayes was a TRACK STAR who Tom Landry DEVELOPED into a Superstar Wide Receiver. Hayes couldn't run routes like a PRO because Track was his focus. He was a great athlete not a Wide Receiver when he came in the League. I could go on ALL DAY about the impact these "OLD" Coaches had on the development of their organizations and players!! RESPECT!!

Imagine McCoy's excuse being "yea but, who did they coach" LeSean listen. You are losing your own argument by making this point. If they didn't coach anyone HOF or Elite and still won SBs then this by definition is a great coach. Cuz they won with nobody. He always been a 🤡

@@LivingSanFranciscoBayArea i actually think he just doesn't know who any players or coaches were before the year 2000.

I was born in 1982 and I didn't watch all the games, but I remember watching a few and I. Also watched all the greatest sports moments from the 80s. I watched it over and over again in a lot of games. I went and watched online Knowledge is everywhere These days so It's very possible you could watch games from the eighties nowadays

Go look at his Win /Loss record

@@jeffl.a.4524And go look at his Super Bowl wins before he got Patrick Mahomes

@@jeffl.a.4524 So you put him higher than the coach who created the offense he runs who also has more Super Bowls in less time?

Walsh is the GOAT​@@byronsmith3152

He really did!!

Yeah but Bill Belichick didn't anything without Tom Brady. He atleast took another team to NFC championships and the Super Bowl

​@@EHh95How many playoff games did they Win??? 1 playoff win with Alex Smith.

​​@@EHh95indeed but PM15 SPED UP THE PROCESS 😂? and made tk87 and big red first ballot 🗳 HALL OF FAMERS

bill had to spy on andy's practice to win the game

he’s honestly the only one that be speaking no emotional non biased facts!

Really? He's about the worst commentator I've ever heard and his hatred for the Kansas City. Chiefs is evident

​@@user-gm2dh4oc5rwhat you must be a troll lol

Last time I checked in the 2019 afc championship game against the chiefs didn't bill belichick won that? better yet what superbowl 39 against the eagles wasn't Andy Reid the head coach? That eagles roster was loaded with talent on both sides of the field

@@jimmycharlotin7050 2018 and correct ✅

Doug Peterson took that Eagles team to SB victory 🤔

Going to 5 NFC championship games is a SB is no small feat my bro

@@Bigload992G he’s talking about 2004

He’s an idiot he looks ridiculous throwing a tantrum

I do.

He big stupid. He earns whatever smoke comes from this Horrendous take 🤣🤣🤣🤣

He seems like a child trying to argue a point

No…oldhead

Right!!! Lmao

Exactly 😂😂😂😂😂

They dated lol?

He found her in my dms talking about the other night how we … 🤤😮‍💨

LMAOOOO

Acho knew he was done so he stopped talking. McCoy is plain ridiculous he an idiot and a clown. He throws a tantrum bringing up ridiculous takes.

As well as the First African American QB Doug Williams

and while Gibbs' rosters were generally solid all the way through, he typically had very few players you could call superstars. None of the quarterbacks who he won Super Bowls with was a Hall of Famer. Darrell Green was by far the best player he coached in Washington. He had 2 other Hall of Famers in Art Monk and Russ Grimm. Aside from that you're mostly looking at guys like Rich Milot and Don Warren and Monte Coleman and Darryl Grant. Don't get me wrong, I love each of those guys. They all contributed mightily to the success Washington had, but not a single one of them ever went to the Pro Bowl. Sounds like these guys had great coaching.

@@cardboardbelt Also outside of QB's, Defensive end Dexter Manley holds the Washington single season sack record at 18.5. Not bad for a guy who was drafted in 6th round and was on the team for 2 of Coach Joe Gibb's Superbowls.

They all should study sports history

Acho knew he was wrong and stayed quiet. McCoy is a clueless idiot who throws tantrums and makes them look ridiculous

I love Andy. But Lombardi is a defensive genius. Walsh and the West Coast offense. Chuck Noll the general. On and on. Andy is in there but for me history matters.

Andy went to a Superbowl and 5 NFC Championship Games WITHOUT Mahomes. Bill was a Losing coach in Cleveland. Bill couldn't win nothing without Brady

Andy didn't win championships similar to Bill without Brady

Reid w/out Mahomes 120-80. Belifraud w/out Brady 84-112 11 seasons 8 losing seasons 1-1 in the playoffs.

​@@MistahShredThat's not quite right: Reid without Mahomes is 184-122-1 in the regular season and 11-13 in the playoffs. Those 195 combined wins would still put him in the top 10 all time.

@@MistahShredhe did have a two first overall quarterback in McNabb and Alex smith so it’s a hard gage how good he could have done with a talent QB

Yeah he definitely feels threatened or it's something with James... he keeps making borderline disrespectful comments. It's only a matter of time before he gets checked.

Really? That was this only come back. He sucks as a sports commendator

Joy stands on business and has valid points.

She is the assignment

ni she not@@dallas218

Molly is all talk with NO FACTS!!!!!!!! Does she even know sports or is it all about just having a pretty face?

Molly is great. Why hating on a beautiful woman who is there mostly because she is talented AND beautiful. Are you guys straight? If not I get it. Lol

Don’t give shady that much credit lol

how does that make the point invalid? so just because you won a SB with a team that means you can keep winning elsewhere? Nick Foles won with the Eagles, how'd the rest of his career go? Russel Wilson won with the Seahawks, how's his next chapter going? Joe Flacco won with the Ravens, how's his next chapters going? Brad Johnson won with the Bucs, how'd his journey go after? How does Bill "teach Tom how to win for 20 years" and Tom moves on / wins the SB again and it's "well Bill taught him"........but Bill himself moves on and it's back to 4-13 seasons? where's that logic with Bill himself then?

He’s wrong on this, but he is entertaining!

You guy's are tripping .....Shady is that dude.

He did have the diesel

Not to mention, and I know it's a different sport (being motorsports but still), he went to NASCAR and got 9 across two leagues.

ur capping alex smith was considered a bust on the 9ers

@@jaysonsmith7264he was until Harbaugh came in and developed Smith. Thats what he’s saying. Alex Smith turned it around under Harbaugh, and then Reid got him

Jim Harbaugh got there during his tenure sir

@@maskedman5657 yea and Alex was considered a bust before Jim got there sir!!

@@elwoodharvey9063 thank you bro!! I question some people’s comprehension skill!!

😂😂😂

Maybe because he hasn't figured out how to open the door yet....

He didn't. He said “Travis Kel… let me get Travis”

EXACTLY AT LEAST KC HAD 1 RING

​@KingKratos79 the ring from over 50 years ago? Lmao😂that's your argument

Bellicheck had 1 winning season before he got brady. When he took over the patriots the had a hall of fame qb (Bledsoe), two star wideouts (Brown and Glenn), and a solid oline. He also had a superbowl Caliber defense featuring four pro bowlers (McGinest, Mitchell, Law, and Milloy). And he still went 5 -11 in his first season. He has a .443 winning percentage without brady. The two of them together are the reasons why they had success. Brady and Bill don't win 6 rings with each other. First 3 rings were carried by bills defenses and brady not making mistakes. The last 3 was bradys high flying offenses with gronk, Edelman, Gordon and Michel. When brady won his ring without Bill it because he went to a stacked offense and a 2nd ranked defense. You can't talk brady/bellicheck without also talking about spygate, deflategate, pedsgate, ir tampering, player tampering, tuck rule, and many more seasons of cheating.

Joe Gibbs?

Or madden

But both coaches saw something in both players that Noone else did.

I very quickly named 4 players on that Miami team sitting here in my den without looking anything up. Oh, and I was in kindergarten when that team broke up. And I'm not a Miami fan.

It's getting crazy in my shady voice

Stg best/funniest episode ever

I mean that’s not true but keep trying king

Everyone has their place on this show. Only sports talk show with better chemistry is First Things First.

shaddup

​@troyterry3226 Yea I feel you and actually think Shady is entertaining and appreciate some of his takes. But this one was painfully transparent