Norton 19S, BSA M21 & sidecars

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Simon Hadden

Simon Hadden

7 жыл бұрын

In 1950s Britain, many motorcycles were attached to sidecars. These so-called outfits were a common sight but nowadays they are seldom seen on the roads. This film shows two examples that are still used regularly.

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@peter7624
@peter7624 11 ай бұрын
The girders make the M21 look as though it's nodding How charming! I'd forgetten about this trait. Great video ! Thanks.
@studavies2572
@studavies2572 3 жыл бұрын
Such a lovely film, right from the music at the beginning to the steam train sound at the end. It makes me feel nostalgic for a time before I was even born.
@MyKharli
@MyKharli 3 жыл бұрын
My earliest memories are sat on my mums knee in the sidecar looking up at my dad with goggles and a scarf on a 750 commando in 1965 ish i think .
@Martin_Schorr
@Martin_Schorr Жыл бұрын
Last sunday i took a ride with my panther with watsonian sidecar. It's a time machine.
@aumkar2
@aumkar2 Жыл бұрын
Need to add an M20 with a sidecar very soon. This is just brilliant motoring.
@MrJonn0
@MrJonn0 3 жыл бұрын
A charming piece Simon. Well worth a second viewing to one who has been enjoying sidecars for around 50 years now.
@sgch101
@sgch101 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, Jonathan!
@lotnylotny671
@lotnylotny671 6 жыл бұрын
Riding a motorcycle with sidecars requires big skills. However, when you master this vehicle you have a lot of driving pleasure. Greetings from Poland.
@sgch101
@sgch101 6 жыл бұрын
Yes,it's great fun to drive a motorcycle and sidecar. The BSA isn't fast but it's reliable. Thanks for your greetings from Poland!
@lotnylotny671
@lotnylotny671 6 жыл бұрын
In Poland, we had such a thing: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/it-bqaWd3ZrSoIE.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrGRgdSazsrIZJs.html This is SFM M10 "JUNAK" with side car WB3. Motorcycle with a capacity of 350 cm, 4 stroke, 4 gears, 17-19 horsepower. Designed in the early fifties, produced 1957-65. Below is an early version of this motorcycle (around 1957-59), SFM M07 "JUNAK" with side car "Sum" ("catfish"): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/at2fgdx4qbjSoGw.html
@TadpolCreative
@TadpolCreative 7 жыл бұрын
These videos are so awesome! This deepens my passion for motorcycles - beautifully shot videos wrapped within informative & insightful commentary. Can't wait for more!
@sgch101
@sgch101 7 жыл бұрын
We'll do our best to make another film before Christmas! The autumn is here now so the trees are developing nice colours but it only takes one gale and the leaves will be gone - then it's winter. That can be still a good time to film - perhaps we'll see how to ride a sidecar bike in the snow...
@pitbull1952
@pitbull1952 7 жыл бұрын
about 1970 i bought a gold flash with a busmar astral double adult sidecar for £35 and i thought he'd robbed me. swapped it for a panther and up until recently i'd always had an outfit, sadly due to old age gave up riding, keep up the good work Simon.
@sgch101
@sgch101 7 жыл бұрын
We'd love to make a film about a Panther-powered outfit but we don't know anyone who has one! We've got a few more films planned, including a 1930s Triumph, before the end of the year so hope you enjoy them.
@saxonost7
@saxonost7 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely video. Really enjoying your uploads. Thanks for posting.
@sgch101
@sgch101 6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the comments - it's always great to get such encouragement!
@emilywright8332
@emilywright8332 5 жыл бұрын
Lovely, have a 600 Yamaha with a stein lookalike chair. Great fun and practical.
@sgch101
@sgch101 5 жыл бұрын
They're all different and good fun. These two steer very well and are well-behaved but it's still surprisingly easy to lift the wheel of an empty sidecar when turning into a narrow side road!
@twinphill900
@twinphill900 4 жыл бұрын
The style in which you produced this video is outstanding.
@sgch101
@sgch101 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Phil. We try to make little films with decent sound and clear pictures - just what we look for in KZfaq ourselves!
@twinphill900
@twinphill900 4 жыл бұрын
@@sgch101 perfect
@georgepeace3791
@georgepeace3791 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant can't beat em
@sgch101
@sgch101 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on. They really are good fun.
@mikefry6765
@mikefry6765 6 жыл бұрын
Utterly charming
@sgch101
@sgch101 6 жыл бұрын
We constantly strive to charm! Many thanks.
@naiduosuri5855
@naiduosuri5855 3 жыл бұрын
Love from India 🇮🇳 ❤️
@maverick_motors_
@maverick_motors_ Жыл бұрын
Simon, first off, great video! We used to own an M21 sidecar combination and loved it. In AA colours too, although not an AA model. What music did you use in this video? All the best!
@sgch101
@sgch101 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video. The music is called "April Day" and is available on an album called "The Golden Age of Light Music: Highdays and Holidays" by Guild Light Music. The CD Number is GLCD 5115 and it's available as an MP3 download
@maverick_motors_
@maverick_motors_ Жыл бұрын
@@sgch101 wonderful. Thank you Simon! I've subscribed and look forward to more of your videos.
@rajb5595
@rajb5595 3 жыл бұрын
In your opinion , which one would you prefer for frequent use ( minus the sidecars) , the faster or the torquey?
@sgch101
@sgch101 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Raj, I'd choose the faster one. The Norton will comfortably cruise at 55 - 60 mph on solo (non-sidecar) gearing, whereas the BSA is about 5 - 10mph slower and doesn't accelerate so quickly. In fact the overhead valve (OHV) 350cc BSA B31 has a better performance than the side-valve (solo) 600cc M21. These old OHV bikes, with a long piston stroke, are still quite torquey, especially compared to more modern engines with a shorter piston stroke. Modern engines' performance is great but one needs to use the gearbox a lot more! Best wishes, Simon.
@rajb5595
@rajb5595 3 жыл бұрын
@@sgch101 your reply has been immensely helpful . I can now begin to appreciate my B31 for what it is ! 😍
@78a67h
@78a67h 5 жыл бұрын
Two questions: Were the sidecars detachable if the rider wanted ? Did these bikes have a reverse gear?
@sgch101
@sgch101 5 жыл бұрын
No, they had no reverse gear. You just have to push them backwards but this is quite easy to do when you are sitting on the bike, as long as there isn't too much of an adverse gradient. Otherwise you have to get off and push the whole thing backwards. The sidecars weren't really detachable. It would take some time to loosen the bolts at the four attachment points. It's normal to fit tyres with a flatter profile on to the bike and sidecar, as the outfit behaves more like a car I.e. It doesn't lean like a solo motorcycle. Hence there's no need for tyres with a rounded profile which bikes normally use. I think these tyres were also fitted to early cars like the Austin Seven!
@colinwoodley
@colinwoodley 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, I'm hoping that you can be a lifesaver here. I have an M21 and a sidecar but am missing 1half of the lower ball joint fitting and can't work out how the bike side fitting would be mounted. Could you send me some photos of yours?
@sgch101
@sgch101 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Colin, Yes, no problem. Please send your email address to me.
@ronaldodomacena9347
@ronaldodomacena9347 7 жыл бұрын
why not make sidecars similar to those in the Philippines? it could carry 2 person inside with room to spare for a picnic basket it's a really practical vehicle in Country Roads and even in Cities it's small and really nimble
@sgch101
@sgch101 7 жыл бұрын
They sound really interesting. There were lots of sidecars on the roads here in the 1950s, and some were like you describe. Try searching for "Busmar sidecar" in Google Images to see what I mean. They were not very nimble so your modern ones sound even better!
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