@kieranshelley8495 Жыл бұрын
i just found this video and have been using the same zap oil in my new engine kinda shocked, taken one look at the sds/ingredients in it and realise it actually contains a componet corrosive to metals, has a shelf life of 1 year in the bottle, let alone in an engine. safe too say i wont be using that again, thanks for the video i would have been pissed too if it all gumed up after a few months
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
Your very welcome! The company is a JOKE! I told them what was going on they basically said F.O if you catch me. They can eat it.
@MrGuitarguyadam 3 жыл бұрын
I like to use ATF+4/Chrysler transmission fluid for after run/storage. I used it on a vintage nitro engine that I rarely run now that you can no longer get parts for it about 4 years ago, and about 2 weeks ago that sucker fired right up!
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
ATF works great same with air tool oil this stuff is got for 3$ to try it and it was garbage
@hybrid32494 4 жыл бұрын
bro, I'm at the same level of PISSTIVITY as you were, with this situation. You're 100% right, no matter how cheap the nitro engine we gotta take care of them all. I use only that great planes after run oil for years, always good results.
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
100% agreed Buddy
@fraserdavidson2366 4 жыл бұрын
The Makita gear is excellent mate. I have the same with jigsaw, plane and circular saw. The impact drill is awesome.
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm pretty happy with it so far
@davelowets 2 жыл бұрын
Airgun oil makes excellent A.R.O.
@khoitran5735 Жыл бұрын
My alpha 28 like sh** after i used after run oil,damn!
@lancehartzell8327 3 ай бұрын
I just saw this. You know I told you I rebuilt my 3.3? That horse piss is the reason for it. It was locked up, and after I cleaned it up it never ran the same. Never using that stuff again.
@thebug4046 3 ай бұрын
Yup! And I reached out to the company and the basically told me to FO and that I had no idea what I was doing lol ZAPP 2? 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
@lancehartzell8327 3 ай бұрын
@@thebug4046 no way! I see where people have researched that stuff…now. Wish I would have seen this earlier. I got it started just fine after I cleaned it, but it was hitting 270-280 in no time idling. I could hear it pinging, and the idle was all over the place. As I was sealing everything I found out that stuff got into my new bearings and expanded over time causing air leaks. So, I just decided it was a good time to just rebuild it the right way. That’s absolutely crazy. Their solvent obviously evaporates quick leaving behind their active ingredients as a residue. I’ve seen this happen before testing on the shelf fuel additives for a friend of mine that races sprint cars. I tested them in a lab I work at in the oilfield here in Oklahoma, but I have never seen this..and this is without the harsh conditions I tested the other products in.
@thebug4046 3 ай бұрын
@@lancehartzell8327 Yeah man that stuff is really weird I don't know what it's made out of but it like crystallizes and gets really sticky and it's almost impossible to remove it's like some kind of weird varnish or something I had to use some pretty heavy duty chemicals to get rid of it. But like I said when I had talked to the company they basically told me I was an idiot and had absolutely no idea what I was doing and that I should maybe step away from the product and the hobby and that it's not their problem I said do you know what you guys are ridiculous many people have the same issue! I got blocked 🚫!!!! Haha I usually use Lucas air tool oil works great! Some people mix it 50/50 with ATF witch seems to work great!
@cassianomartin2699 2 жыл бұрын
been using ATF for a while, had good results with it, never had any sign of corrosion of gunk crap inside the engine
@stevebarr9604 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've used the GP stuff for around 40 years no problem!
@ashermorales8276 2 жыл бұрын
That kleen flo got that cleaned up like nothing. I gotta pick some of that stuff up
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Be careful around silicone o rings as it will swell them
@ashermorales8276 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 oh didn’t know that. Would non-chlorinated brake cleaner work just as good but be safer on the silicone parts??
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashermorales8276 yes much safer but still pay attention to silicone parts of rings etc.. as it's a sensitive rubber
@ashermorales8276 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 okie dokie. Gonna stop by auto zone on the way home from work and pick up some of that and some klotz
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
@@ashermorales8276 auto zone won't sell klotz you have to buy it from a race shop or on line Don't waste your money on it to be honest unless you're gonna be using it to put your engine together then running right away don't use it as a storage lubricant as it does get sticky if you let it sit. just use use normal synthetic 2 stroke oil or synthetic 5W30 engine oil it's fine
@jordanbrandtner2745 Жыл бұрын
Well that sucks I just bought this stuff two days ago and put it in my k4.6 and force 25
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
Throw it away clean it out and use Lucas air tool oil
@mrsideways4574 4 жыл бұрын
I would just blast it out with wd40 / 3 in 1 and let it sit that’s what I usually do works pretty good to
@marcdenen6160 4 жыл бұрын
Take it apart,boil it in antifreeze. Oil everything after the boil. Bearings will be fine.
@standardaussie 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guy, agreed that stuff is garbage. Did you rotate the engine while dismantling? Only as i noticed it was stored with the piston up near tdc. leaving your piston even close to tdc cold or in storage no matter what you use, will to some degree lock the engine up and or cause damage. Good nitro engine storage requires or recommends storing your engine at bdc, as the bore is tapered getting more narrow towards the top. Sorry its a long one, thanks for showing this btw I have had trouble with that product as well. All the best guy
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man and no it wasn't stored at or near TDC I did turn it over when I realized it was stuck
@inoahmann7542 4 жыл бұрын
The same thing happened with my trx 2.5 but I was using traxxas after run oil. I've just stopped using after run oil. I'll probably start using atf but I run my engines often enough that I really don't need it.
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
As long as you run the engine and fuel system completely dry before you put it away or usually fine for quite a while and if you let it sit for more than a few months then you a couple drops off after run oil is fine that's all I ever do just turns out I kind of got screwed on this stuff cuz it created a lot of havoc with a bunch of different engines
@derrickzanni1762 3 жыл бұрын
had a bottle of this stuff laying around a few months ago and noticed just how sticky it was. worked better as an air filter oil, no way would it keep an engine lubricated over a few months.
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
Stuff is garbage man the people at the company called me a idiot and that I didn't know what I was talking lol
@sithoverlord6332 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, used same afterun oil. 6 months later like welded my Traxxas into a bookweight. Now I just use 10W30...perfect! Afterun is a conspiracy to get you to buy more engines.
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
100% or Lucas air tool oil
@davelowets 2 жыл бұрын
That carburetor venturi is tiny for a .28 sized engine. 🤔
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Was a 21 carb
@davelowets 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 Ah, ok. Makes sense now.. 🍻
@purpledonatello 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow the same thing I've experienced gummed up the crank and rod after run oil when pulled out my pullstart. I thought it was maybe my fault either putting to many drops or just the brand(hobbyco).
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
Run your engine out of fuel till in no longer starts won't hurt anything and then if you feel the need Lucas air tool oil is best
@Clickbaiters 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using WD40 as after run treatment for years. I've let my engines sit for almost a year and I've never had an issue. I started using WD40 after I ran out of the Great Planes oil I was using and found a big two pack of WD40 at Costco for $7 on sale at the time. Transmission oil is highly detergent but it won't displace moisture.
@pitbikecookracing3324 4 жыл бұрын
Use mmo . Or air tool oil, it’s the same thing. I’m a big Fan of your channel. 👊
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! And that's what I'm using now air tools oil
@pitbikecookracing3324 4 жыл бұрын
That’s great. I also have the .28-8 sh . I had it modd by Rick at RBMODS. In my losi 8 rtr. Great budget big block. 👊🤝
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
@@pitbikecookracing3324 nice! They are A decent engine for the price and Rick is awesome when I have some extra cash I am going to be sending some engines his way
@ericniestedt304 2 жыл бұрын
@thebug404, it's weird that I just picked up an old traxxas nitro sport from ebay and vender told me it was running fine. Once I got it, the engine didn't want to spin by hand. I opened the back plate and saw the same thing, the sleeve piston looked great. But both bearing seized on me. So I am currently working on fixing it up. Trx.15 engine on it. Thanks for all your videos, very very helpful. Can you do a traxxas carb setting on trax.15. I don't know how much screw turning after clean the carb because it seized also. Same stickiness. Thanks again.
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Hey no problem! and I have lots of pro 15 rebelled videos you can check out I don't use the factory carburetors for the pro 15 as I don't really like them very much but I believe they are flush on the low speed needle idle gap 1mm and then high speed needle 4 turns out from closed. Pretty sure that's for all Traxxas engines. And as far as oiling your engine just a synthetic engine oil work just fine
@ericniestedt304 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 yes, I saw a bunch of your videos and that is why I am liking your video.
@peanut6966 3 жыл бұрын
Zap makes glue
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
After how I was treated im never buying anything from them again
@khaosnitro 3 жыл бұрын
that after run oil company deserves a kick right in the peninsula ! dam it!
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
They are assholes
@stevebarr9604 2 жыл бұрын
That's crazy I just thought zap made ca glue and stuff but evidently they forgot to put it in the right bottle! Just kidding!
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I do and I was furious like and I had a handful of other people reach out to me that I have the exact same problem the seller or owner of that company is a complete piece of shit not even willing to talk to you or help you at all
@VintageCR 3 жыл бұрын
been using this after run on my K5.9 used 2-5 drops after each time i took it for a drive, haven't had a problem yet but.. my bottle is sticky aswell like you mention in the video. kinda worried now, ordered different after run oil now, and not going back to ZAP. EDIT: if its sticky, it can attract dirt and if dirt gets stuck in the sticky mush inside the engine, i kinda know what will happen over time.
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
It's really crapy stuff you can use air tool oil or atf or marvel mistory oil and using after run all the time is unnecessary It's actually very hard on your engine and one way bearing trying to compress it every time you done for the day just run it out of fuel till it won't start and its fine to sit like that for a month or so I only use it when I put stuff away for the winter
@khaosnitro 2 жыл бұрын
i just bought the same engine for $127.00 in june 2022 let me ask you does that engine have crank spring and pin for the starter shaft?
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Nope it doesn't
@khaosnitro 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 ah cool! i love no pin and spring engines !
@rcbrosproductions9129 3 жыл бұрын
You won’t need new bearings lol just spray them with some brake parts cleaner and oil them up they’ll be just fine
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@stevewest7260 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be pissed at that after run oil too. A good after run oil is Marvel Mystery oil. I've had cars sit for over 5 years and not have that happen. Get a lot for the price and can use it for your automobile too.
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm pretty pissed about it and the company doesn't care either
@stevewest7260 4 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 How do the Sh engine hold up in the long run? never tried one.
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevewest7260 I hold up pretty well SH makes engines for a lot of other companies like a dynamite an lrp
@stevewest7260 4 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 Thanks for the info. I've been using the Force engines for practice. How ironic, just picked up a Dynamite for shits and grins idled 3 tanks today.
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevewest7260 Force engines are good it's the same company that makes engines for axial and HPI
@brandonsheldon4783 3 жыл бұрын
Makita drills are no joke ... I’ve treated the one my dad gave me before he passed away like absolute shit no air tool or lubricants for the past 12 years as a plumber and it still kicks ass I don’t understand. The rubber is all fallen off but does that matter? Lol
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
A little air tool oil will definitely help. You probably just got lucky
@brandonsheldon4783 3 жыл бұрын
I deff did
@cheezyrider1111 3 жыл бұрын
How is that sh .28 p3? Mine just arrived for my mgt but I’m waiting on new bolts for the engine mount and I’ve had to do a little work to the header to get it to work. Just wondering if this engine is half decent
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
They are a good runner i know a handful of people that have them and like them
@joeedwards8873 2 жыл бұрын
Don't zap also make superglue
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Yup I Leonard my lesson
@maxsettings2906 11 ай бұрын
Hey Bug what about that chinese after run oil on amazon
@thebug4046 11 ай бұрын
Garbage don't even waste your money just go at your local automotive shop and buy Lucas air tool oil you can buy a big bottle of it for probably the same price. Also use motocross air filter oil and silicone based motocross shock oil that way you don't have to get ripped off by the hobby shop for at 2 oz bottle
@maxsettings2906 11 ай бұрын
@thebug4046 ok thanks for the reply. I was using that zap stuff I'm about to throw it in the trash . I'm glad I seen this vid the stuff is sticky like you said.
@brianwood9849 4 жыл бұрын
I will never buy no name brand shit like that to put in my engines . Hate to hear this bro, I would be pissed off my ass at those CLOWNS! I have used Boca after run oil in my engines and have had motors sitting up for over 10 years and they are clean as a bell and turn over fine. I bought some Hudy after run oil and HUDY makes good stuff.
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man that zapp shit is SHIT! turns to varnish
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
@Ad Min yup all good
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
@Ad Min nice
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
@Ad Min a little bit more with a 4.6
@jeremyburton9038 4 жыл бұрын
Marvel mystery oil works good .
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I've heard but it's not available in my area I've looked for it everywhere with no luck maybe I'll see if I can find some cheap on eBay or something
@jeremyburton9038 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a dollar general store in your area . they carry it
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyburton9038 it's a little bit different over here in Canada we have dollar stores but they don't usually carry things like that I've even looked at Walmart Canadian Tire and all our auto parts stores here and have never seen it
@racingbashingrcs8330 4 жыл бұрын
that's what I use
@TreySlayPlay23 3 жыл бұрын
I got a question for you I am new to Nitro and my pool starter continue the slip which I knew you had to clean the oil off the starter shaft so once I got tired of removing it I tried to start the engine with a 12 mm socket straight to the starter shaft which spins out every time you get it started long story short that ended up cracking my one way bearing casing so I had to replace the one way bearing and bought a roto start mount with a shaft which I still place inside of my drill but it now has to be ran counterclockwise because of the Roto start mount I'm guessing because the reduction gear but for some reason ever since I cracked the original one way bearing ever since I replaced it and put everything back together but engine will not fire I have fuel I have good glow plugs and I have a great glow plug igniter I don't understand why the engine won't start or even try to fire can you help please I have way too much money wrapped up into this one Nitro truck it's the Redcat volcano s30 not even a month old and I've had nothing but problems literally bought a brushless arrma senton so I still had something to drive with my kids tired of messing with this Nitro and I've always wanted it ever since I was young
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you cannot start these type of SH engines with the Pole starter removed the one way Shaft will fall out and the connecting rod wall smash the one way bearing and destroy your engine you have to have the Pole starter there if it is slipping remove the starter shaft and lightly deglaze with some 800 grit sandpaper in only 1 spot where the bearing itself sets maybe 2 or 3 quick turns that all Excessive amounts of after an oil also caused them to slip Also trying to start a flooded engine or again an engine with too much after run oil will cause the bearing to slip Also using electric start or drill will cause damage i have other videos on that I do have a group on Facebook nitro/diesel/gas rc and more you can post pictures videos etc. There is a few questions to answer im the owner i will let you in
@TreySlayPlay23 3 жыл бұрын
So I bought the Roto mount kit that is meant for my style engine I did crack the casing to the one way bearing when using a drill directly on the starter shaft do you think I broke my ends in the only thing it done was left a little tiny scrape mark above the connecting rod on the crank arm I'm guessing if that just the slightest the engine won't start? I was just trying to get a specific answer I know you have another video I have already watched the one you're talking about I'm just trying to figure out what I damaged inside of my engine because it is turning over just fine still and all it has is a little scrape on the crank arm
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
@@TreySlayPlay23 if it's only got a little scrap on the rod no big deal clean the engine out grabe a new one way bearing and slam it back together should be fine
@TreySlayPlay23 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 yeah the connecting rod does not look bent when I rotate the engine it looks perfectly fine it just put a little scrape on it I'm guessing when the one way bearing cracked it probably bounced off of the connecting rod once or twice without my knowledge but it does not seem bent so I'm trying to figure out why I'm having trouble getting it started it won't even fire up I have good fuel I'm getting fuel to the carburetor and to the engine and I have brand new glow plugs and a nice lipo glow plug igniter so I'm kind of stuck in that position not understanding why it won't start I don't get it
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
@@TreySlayPlay23 Air fuel compression and glow one of those are missing it won't run just like any other engine but like I said I can't really help much without seeing or hearing it that's why I recommend my nitro group on Facebook
@icyrc Жыл бұрын
hows the atf working for you
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
Perfect
@alexander.g7992 4 жыл бұрын
i use the same oil with the same engine and its fine
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
Let it sit for a few months you will have issues it's garbage
@NitroMike 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know that stuff could go bad
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it can end that after run oil is terrible don't ever use it. Company I contacted them and they basically told me to kick rocks so screw them and their products
@taglemichealc.4316 4 жыл бұрын
Still hoping to have atleast 1 engine. Hahahha.
@ronniewilliz153 4 жыл бұрын
Ive been useing pb blaster an nothing bd has happened
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
That stuff works really good but it's freaking expensive here so I'm just going to continue on to see using synthetic engine oil then using it on and off for years seems to do the trick and just denatured alcohol or brake parts cleaner for cleaning them
@jeremyburton9038 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know if you can get some if you cant I will send you a big bottle of it
@thebug4046 4 жыл бұрын
I'll definitely make an update about it at a later date if I find any and that's very cool of you
@icyrc 3 жыл бұрын
you got to watch out for fake reviews
@denniss7805 4 жыл бұрын
Can I just use vegetable oil?
@thebug4046 Жыл бұрын
No
@nomi86cool 3 жыл бұрын
Common fault with this Engine
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha nope! That's not a common fault of any engine That's a common fault of poor quality preservation oil that turned sticky and locked up the engine
@nomi86cool 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 o got my seized twice I wasn’t using any after run oil
@thebug4046 3 жыл бұрын
@@nomi86cool I don't use any after run oil about 80% of the time I run my engines completely dry of fuel and their find to sit like that for months if they are being stored for the Winter or more than a year i put some oil in them that's about it
@ghost_yt3716 2 жыл бұрын
That shit sucks. bullshit oil!
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
Very much so
@ghost_yt3716 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 do you Heard about runnertime fuel when yes do you recommend it ?
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghost_yt3716 sorry I don't understand the question
@ghost_yt3716 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebug4046 Its a nitromethane fuel for rc nitro cars, do you heard about it. when yes would you recommend it?
@thebug4046 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghost_yt3716 if you mean the brand of fuel? No I haven't heard of it but all nitromethane and methanol comes from the same place so its basically all the same only thing is the oil package used. I'm sure it's absolutely fine.
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