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Күн бұрынFighting trolls is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult the #ReleaseTheSnyderCut campaign was, from critics receiving death threats for not liking DCEU movies, to rewarding toxic fandom with Zack Snyder’s Justice League.
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In the entertainment world, there are millions of dollars on the line and troubled productions are bound to happen. And we are going to talk about these disastrous, never ending, and sometimes dangerous productions. From the creators of WTF Happened To This Movie?, It Was A Sh*t Show is a video essay/documentary/podcast series looking at some of your favorite films and tv shows, and why they were such a nightmare to make.
Chapters:
00:00 - Opening Theme
00:30 - Intro
02:46 - #ReleaseTheSnyderCut
Sources:
BuzzFeed: www.buzzfeed.com/alannabennet...
Change.org: www.change.org/p/warner-bros-...
CinemaBlend: www.cinemablend.com/news/2567...
www.cinemablend.com/news/2562...
The Direct: thedirect.com/article/justice...
Entertainment Weekly: ew.com/movies/2018/09/24/dc-b...
Gizmodo: io9.gizmodo.com/justice-leagu...
io9.gizmodo.com/zack-snyder-o...
GoFundMe: www.gofundme.com/f/releasethe...
Hollywood Reporter: www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...
Medium: / would-releasing-the-sn...
Movieweb: movieweb.com/the-suicide-squa...
Newsweek: www.newsweek.com/dc-fans-rais...
Polygon: www.polygon.com/22327290/snyd...
The Ringer: www.theringer.com/movies/2021...
Uproxx: uproxx.com/movies/zack-snyder...
Vanity Fair:
www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/...
www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/...
The Verge: www.theverge.com/22334362/zac...
Vox: www.vox.com/culture/2019/11/1...
www.vox.com/culture/2019/10/3...
www.vox.com/22339680/zack-sny...
Yahoo: news.yahoo.com/henry-cavill-f...
Your Money Geek: yourmoneygeek.com/zack-snyder...
Music:
Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme
#itwasashtshow #releasethesnydercut #zacksnyder
@pablozuniga206 2 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel, just wanted to say that this was a great, constructive conversation/criticism of modern day fan movement
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And thank you for listening and being understanding!
@stanfordsan Жыл бұрын
"No movie made was supposed to be bad" Rodgers Corman's Fantastic Four begins shifting nervously....
@ivanagustinortiz5237 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, everyone was bringing their A game because they actually thought it was going to be released and would make them famous. The producer/rights owner at that point and Avi Arad were the ones who chose to be like "burn it".
@uknown1100 Ай бұрын
Fantastic Four was not made to be bad, it was made but never meant to be released.
@Draliseth 18 күн бұрын
That movie is an earnest gem. I just re-watched this month. I couldn't even finish Fant4stic. Also, wasn't **supposed** to be bad but.. some movies just never stood a chance.
@daniexists6 Жыл бұрын
So, I saw a lot of this first hand at it happened on twitter due to my own fandom of Warner Bros. cartoon department (a.k.a. Looney Tunes, BTAS, Animaniacs and the like), so you guys absolutely hit the nail on the head. Especially since I was a person who got death threats for not liking Snyder's films.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
That’s so ridiculous... Sorry it happened. Fandom needs a wake up call.
@EonStormcrow 2 жыл бұрын
Clint put my sentiments into words at 14:24. I too love the new Mortal Kombat movie. Is it bad? Yes. Do I love it regardless? Yes. The same goes for this film. I liked the Snyder Cut, but it wasn't the greatest film of all time and Snyder isn't the messiah of DC movies that his toxic and rabid fans make him out to be. To be clear, I'm not calling ALL fans of his rabid and toxic, but there definitely are some that need to chill. EDIT: I literally wrote this before I heard the part where you guys talked about the Snyder Cult and damn, people do be more crazy than I thought...
@GreenPeelEL34 7 ай бұрын
Two years later and grown men are still hanging on to this thing. It’s really sad to see a number of channels justifying choking a person, so that they can see 3 Batmen in one movie. That was their last ember of ZSJL.
@Whiteythereaper Ай бұрын
To them, nothing matters but their lord Zack. It always perplexes me when people say he's a nice person, like bro, HE PAID for bots to harass and threaten Warner execs, and his bullshit with how he treated these characters, on top of Watchmen's shit in the first place, got his daughter bombarded with so much hate and threats from entitled toxic incels, that she KILLED HERSELF to be free of it, and then he & his wife used that as a marketing ploy with the Snyder Cut. Unspeakably insane behaviour.
@Ancor_Vantian 2 жыл бұрын
53:28 "No one is saying: 'release the Jaredcut'" LMAO I know I shouldn't laugh at that but jesus christ! 🤣🤣 really liked the podcast.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t even remember that joke! Glad you’re enjoying the podcast!
@Ryanneey Ай бұрын
I found your channel a few days ago, and now I'm binging all your videos and podcasts. I freaking love it! I haven't seen about 50% of these movies, but I still enjoy hearing your research and hot takes. 😅 You remind me a bit of The Rest is Entertainment!
@awesomesauce8083 Жыл бұрын
All this poison has spilled over to the toy collecting community. So many entitled man-children are complaining about minor things that they drive toylines into oblivion, then complain why mattel and hasbro aren't producing them. Sad😢
@halfpixie 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I vaguely remember you guys saying you have a patreon. Is that still a thing? I'm not Disney, but I'll give you money.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Building up the subs before launching a Patreon. But glad to know you are interested! Thanks for listening!
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
It took awhile, but here we are: www.patreon.com/itwasashtshow
@matthewdecamp2737 Жыл бұрын
No ones saying release the jared cut may be my favorite new joke ever. You have a new life long subscriber
@the40yroldgamer75 Жыл бұрын
i have become addicted to your podcast I really hope you guys keep going, Please do more 80s / 90s films! Thanks so much for your hard work! It shows that you put a lot of thought into the quality of each episode.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Yes, there is more to come. Stay tuned…
@antisora13 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it IS the Snyder Cut’s fault that my life is worse now.
@RoscoeM1974 Жыл бұрын
I just discovered this podcast after seeing the 85th anniversary of Superman re-release of the 1978 Superman movie. I had no idea that the ZSJL campaign was so toxic until today. As a Christian, I'm also disappointed that a lot of this toxicity came from Christians.
@michaellamb4001 10 ай бұрын
I have just found this channel and I love this pod, some back story while I never watched geeks and gamers I did watch videos by creators linked to them, it so easy to fall into that rabbit hole, so much harder to get out of it
@ItWasAShtShow 10 ай бұрын
It’s scary how easily people fall into it. Fear and hate is a powerful drug.
@AmpND Жыл бұрын
Just getting to this and 1 hour 10 minutes in. I had to say hearing Clint's and Ian's willingness to see "Army of the Dead" is hilarious considering how awful it was on release. That little bit had me giggling. I followed this toxic campaign just because some other YT personalities were talking about it. Those KZfaqrs had to start commenting in their videos to tone down the toxicity or people will start getting blocked. As a result of that online campaign I rarely post on YT. I stopped using all other social media. I love your channel, I have subscribed and I'm going through liking all the videos as I complete them. I am rooting for you all to have more success with this.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! We always enjoy when someone comments on this particular episode and ISN'T being an irrational fan. Also, we recorded this before Army of the Dead came out, and in interest I had in it died with the bad reviews.
@phillyvoodoo 2 жыл бұрын
Superman is more of a Moses figure as he was sent into the wilderness on a small ship to escape his peoples death and obtain a better life and Godly power
@SonicTheFrenchHorn 2 жыл бұрын
There was that time he "died" and came back to life.
@jimmymunz874 Жыл бұрын
@@SonicTheFrenchHorn Like Dracula.
@SaSPonchICo 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the first part. Second is even more epic. Thanks for all of this. I think it's one of the rare podcasts that works for me.
@skullrider76 2 жыл бұрын
One disagreement I do have is A.I, actually no it’s not a disagreement I just go easier on it because it’s a project that Spielberg ended up with after the passing of Kubrick and if I remember the movie correctly it felt less Spielbergy than his other projects and was more of Spielberg trying to make a Kubrick styled film. Although if I remember anything from A.I which the more I’m trying to remember the less I can remember, the movie was pretty slow. TLDR- I don’t remember AI but at one point thought it was the last time one of Spielberg’s felt like there was something behind it
@chartaiwan 7 ай бұрын
This was great. Good research guys I think most of us here thank you for showing us the story of that fucking movie
@Lefty1AYT 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad your channel is getting the recognition it deserves finally! Went up like 3k in 2 days. Enjoy the viewership and subs. Your hard work is finally paying off
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty crazy. Thanks for the kind words!
@NighttimeNubbs Жыл бұрын
Why the hell would you defend a toxic Fandom for donating to charity that's about preventing suicide when they themselves are encouraging people to off themselves and making death threats. It definitely feels he cares more about self interest than actually doing good, defending bad behavior purely because they're his supporters.
@GafoVision Жыл бұрын
Oo
@ginichilders9619 Жыл бұрын
Got that same energy for the people who mocked anyone for finding ZS's DC movies inspiring them in hard times? Or anyone who said ZS deserved to lose his daughter or attacked his other family members?
@jaxking904 Ай бұрын
You guys did a fantastic job on discussing this topic with mature minds giving us something to think about and wished people like you were on KZfaq and social media in general when it comes to geek culture.
@ItWasAShtShow Ай бұрын
Glad you think so. This was a heavier topic than usual but I thought it important.
@Mrnotpib 15 күн бұрын
PointlessHub has probably the best description of Zack Snider as a person I’ve seen and that is “Pure. There is not a single thought behind those eyes.” It’s all reaction. And that’s what you do if all you do is react to things. None of these people were thinking. Just reacting. Otherwise they would never say or do any of this shit.
@GreenPeelEL34 25 күн бұрын
You 3 will have a field day with Rebel Moon. I can’t wait. Apparently he declined a location because he didn’t like the wheat. Production was held up for months so that he could grow a specific strain of wheat. I’m sure Netflix has overjoyed. 😂😂😂😂
@kentonsam4264 Жыл бұрын
Have you guys considered looking at and discussing the angry fan outcry over the Rings of Power? It's crazy how it, along with Star Wars, has reached a near religious fundamentalist attitude over whether the decisions stay true to the "gospel" of the creators or go against it. That any alterations or interpretations are seen as disrespectful and blasphemous, it's insane.
@sloganwade4994 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that Freddy Got Fingered was made to supposed to be bad.
@witchdocwayne1462 2 жыл бұрын
That might be the only movie.
@jsb1944 Жыл бұрын
They failed miserably, FGF is a masterpiece
@DocGriffon Жыл бұрын
Time and perspective reveals all things. I encourage you to take the time and perform due diligence.
@chaiti1985 9 ай бұрын
First - you guys are great to listen to. Awesomesauce. I think this is the first podcast Ive listened to of yours though, where I was like...."hmm, getting a little too political and philosophical". Like where I thought the main conversation could go into a tangent for another hour or more lol. It makes it more interesting though - because this cut was done in a highly polarizing time I think. So there is some irony there. It also is a great example of how just a few people compared to the base audience, can override the main stream and create a situation. And the influence of the internet "mob". Makes me more curious of your personal viewpoints on other things. You can tell there was a lot of "tongue holding". Great stuff.
@qweqqweq2090 Жыл бұрын
I liked the joker because you start rooting for this poor guy to do really fucked up shit. it puts you in a weird place. it had a lot of entertainment value. it down just call itself art and tell you, you just won't get it if you didn't like it.
@Grif43 Жыл бұрын
Goddamn all this shit about fans being disgusting over this fuckin' movie makes me feel embarrassed when I was a whiny fan of certain video games as a teenager.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Right? And with the recent threats to game companies because they haven’t revealed release dates yet, I think fandom is in for a seismic shift (good or bad) in the next few years.
@KittyMeow1984 Жыл бұрын
If it's any comfort, at least *you were a teenager*. There were/are grown ass 20, 30 and even 40-somethings behind the Release the Snyder Cut hashtag.
@shemjeffs2953 Жыл бұрын
Really good video, my comment is not related to the main focus of it, but just some food for thought - I'm no comic-book kind of fan in the least, but I'll watch them. My extent of batman knowledge is pretty much just from the dark knight. However, when you say that Joker would be the same film without it being the joker, or in another video when 10 Cloverfield lane would be the same without being of that franchise, I don't think it's right. They still might both be great films, maybe even better without the framing, but the inclusion of the known element, even if it seems irrelevant does change them beyond trying to rope in a larger, accepting audience. It pretty much introduces preconceptions from the start that dont need to be established within a blank slate film, you as the viewer already have a sense of direction from the start that you wouldn't have otherwise
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
And that’s exactly the studio’s thinking. By attaching the brand, it would attract more people to it. But the counter point to that is, why? The 80s and 90s were filled with original ideas that people loved without preconceptions. Did 10CL really need the connection? It’s a great film that could stand on its own. It’s an interesting dilemma; then vs now.
@kevlopz3374 Жыл бұрын
Dope channel; glad I found it. I remember Todd Philips mentioning he wrote a pretty cool movie and figured that the way to make people want to see it would be making it a Batman movie. Comic Book Twitter in general sucks, everyone always feels entitled and it's exhausting. I love Snyder's movies, but man I've gotten so much crap for giving my grievances with them. I'm happy with the Snyder cut, and I've met some great people, some disagree, but I'll like what I like and stay off Twitter. It's the least we can do nowadays haha.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
And it's ok to like or dislike something! Amen
@Seannshades 17 күн бұрын
Really looked forward to both Synder Cut podcasts. It both made me depressed and angry. I heard A LOT about the Syndercult crap that was going on as well as WB’s mishandling of the toxic situation. I agree NO ONE came out of this well. And considering the mess that still is the DC side of films and how worse it got when they should have just blew everything up and started over. I have faith in James Gunn, but no one has learned anything with toxic behavior and seemingly it has only gotten worse. The state of movies in general is still recovering from a post Covid world and now post writers strike world. I’m trying to be hopeful of the future. Holy crap that was long…sorry😂
@TheHunterBolton 2 жыл бұрын
I love you guys, and always relate to Clint! Lots of really great parallels between the toxic fandoms and current political/religious movements and conflating them with identity
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Love ya back! Thanks for not being mean, especially on this particular episode.
@ameliafoley4156 2 жыл бұрын
The fuck is the justice league?
@jmoman5356 4 ай бұрын
Film critics are like auditors. They can’t find nothing wrong.
@archangel1of7 7 ай бұрын
I thought the movie was okay for what it was. Better than the theatrical at least. None of it was ever what I really wanted from these characters though so I was never all that invested. I just watched it to a little fun. I like Star Trek and Star Wars and the fan base for both of those is pretty bad too. I have a feeling it's the same racist, sexist people. It's horrible that I've started getting used to it. Horrible and a bummer all around.
@nealhoffman7518 7 ай бұрын
A couple years after this I keep thinking that the Snyder fans are following the example of "holding the debt ceiling hostage" that started in 2010
@Whiteythereaper Ай бұрын
The Venn Diagram of people who have Scarface posters & love that movie, and the people who think that Walter White is the protagonist of Breaking Bad and that Skyler is an antagonist, is a fucking circle. Satire and subtext are completely invisible to them. Characters and actors are interchangable. Also on the topic of Ray Fischer, he's absolutely justified in his anger and his complaints and suffering are justified, but he's absolutely been used by Snyder as a human shield and so he can pull the " I have a black friend" sympathy card without actually caring about Ray's experience. You have to remember, Ray Fischer was a theater actor before Justice league, he expected this movie to be his big break to making hundreds of millions over the next 10 years. He was very naïve and blinded by the thought that his career was set like Chris Evans or Tom Holland. His anger is justified and valid, but boy did he fucking feed the trolls
@TypeIIAdventures Жыл бұрын
“No movie was ever made that was supposed to be bad.” I counter with snakes on a plane. A movie that knew exactly what it was (and was based on).
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
There's a difference between good bad, and bad bad. Snakes on a Plane & most B-movies know what they are and don't shy away from that. So they're intended purpose was a success.
@WhatMyr 25 күн бұрын
25:45 it does feel like while it’s great to have used it to knock whedon down, stoking the flames of the Snyder cult just to have back up against a creep and a jerk who abused you is…not. Great.
@GreenPeelEL34 25 күн бұрын
Pssst, Joss and Zack are BOTH raging narcissists. Both can’t take criticism. Zack has purposefully ignored safety standards, SAG rules, and his crazy fan base who send DEATH THREATS to people. F Zack Snyder.
@itsd0nk Жыл бұрын
I came to your channel for the great bts making of video essays, but now I stayed for your guys’ and girl’s terrific discussions in these podcasts. You’ve got yourselves a sub! Really appreciate how you draw the parallels with the Qanon, political, trump nonsense crowds, as well as the gamergate scene seeding all of that, with the ReleaseTheSnyderCu(l)t phenomenon. I hope mankind makes it through this phase of internet infancy, otherwise the internet and especially social media was our biggest mistake lol.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed this discussion. It’s certainly our most serious episode, but the ideas of fan entitlement and internet anonymity run through a lot of these conversations.
@turtleanton6539 2 жыл бұрын
It sure was 😊👍🙂
@blenderheadxyz2418 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean, ALL COMMENTS get ignored ... ;)
@qweqqweq2090 Жыл бұрын
"no movie is made to be supposed to be bad." have you not seen the last Jedi and heard the director telling an interviewer that he wanted to make movies that half the people hated?
@thattroy 2 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant and really fascinating. You have to wonder at the irony of online trolls raising money for suicide prevention.
@daelen.cclark Жыл бұрын
And now that James Gunn’s on board, these “snyderverse” bots are calling for Gunn to get fired. Now that we got this “Snyder cut”, let Zack/Cavill move onto better things without the entitled bots attacking them.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Sadly, I don’t think they’ll calm down ever. Wait till the next Superman film comes out, no matter the quality, they’ll be pissed.
@daelen.cclark Жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow Because heaven forbid we don’t properly pander to pricks. Though fortunately, James Gunn seems to know the genuine fans (as overshadowed as they might be) will support and judge the movie on its own merits.
@GreenPeelEL34 Жыл бұрын
Full on. It’s a bizarre cult.
@marleneg7794 Жыл бұрын
The friend was Matt Damon
@rahhulsharma8473 Жыл бұрын
I love the impressions Rey does ❤️❤️
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
You don’t live with her! Haha
@garrettjvb 11 ай бұрын
Ironically, the point you guys bring up at 1:08 is exactly what you're doing. Objectively. Making it about "Us vs them", demanding retribution for those that think differently, calling people offensive names. You're literally doing the same thing.
@JJAmes-mb4du Жыл бұрын
I think that the essence of all this is that businesses people in charge of art companies won't risk the money on new things, so they fight other companies to own proven stories and characters. Fans have spent some portion of their lives enjoying those stories and characters. When a major film is coming out about their interests, they get excited and angry when they get craped on over and over.
@kimandrews55 3 жыл бұрын
@It Was A Sh*t Show do The Making of Watchmen was a Sh*t Show.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
It’s on the list!
@MichSciFi10 Жыл бұрын
The movie's release wasn't about rewarding anything toxic. It was about getting justice for Zack and what WB did to him and how they took advantage of his grief after losing his daughter! End of discussion.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
End of discussion!
@nicklang6798 2 жыл бұрын
😲😬these people are just crazy 🤪
@omaryunus 2 жыл бұрын
#ReleaseTheSnyderS#!TShow 😂
@omaryunus 2 жыл бұрын
Haha didn’t work 😅
@jasoncarswell7380 Жыл бұрын
So good fans should just consume product and shut up? (Meanwhile corporate media and the establishment will censor authentic indie culture.)
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Good fans can voice their opinions without resulting to death threats.
@jasoncarswell7380 Жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow I agree. It's also problematic when people lump an entire group together, including the inevitable bad actors of ANY group of substantial size. The corporatocracy is EVIL, exploiting the rest of us, mostly decent, folks - and now they've turned ratcheted up their plans for censorship to cover greater tyranny, exploitation, and outright war. Message control and propaganda are critical tools wielded by the corporate media for their fifth generation warfare. This includes fostering division by demonizing folks on either the left or right sides to distract from the brutal top-down agendas.
@75YBA 2 жыл бұрын
Frak Zack.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Like… for Natural gas?!
@GreenPeelEL34 Жыл бұрын
Like for being a goosestepping moron and a thief.
@JJAmes-mb4du Жыл бұрын
Stories from the Greek and Roman theaters through Shakespeare and Vaudeville all tell us that audiences used to boo and throw things at the actors. The theater people learned up close what people liked and hated and made alterations. Film corporations today know that they don't have to make good films to make profits and the audiences are getting fed up.
@teak43 Жыл бұрын
Contrary to the conventional wisdom, it's healthy and good for fans to feel they have some ownership over IP. Better them than David Zaslav. But this was an astroturf campaign, as we later discovered - surprised you folks didn't cover that.
@Tylerm05 2 ай бұрын
I think this is a case of what’s better, the story or the storyteller? If you have a story that sounds good on paper, but in practice it could change for the better or for the worse, if WB didn’t interfere with Snyder at all we wouldn’t even be in this mess.
@mavrickindigo Жыл бұрын
Nit sure who hates Rose Tico for being Asian. Most hate I've seen has been picking the character as a punching bag for hating the movie itself, like with young anakin or jar jar
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
The same people who hated that a storm trooper was black.
@mavrickindigo Жыл бұрын
@ItWasAShtShow I wonder if they are the same people who caused anakins actor to have a horrible life
@gckbowers411 6 ай бұрын
43:02 I don't think Zach abandoning the fundraiser to marginally strengthen a point that he already made about not liking the racist guy would be justifiable. Zach's presence will bring in more dollars to an actual cause to actually save lives, which is a bigger priority.
@matdow4470 7 ай бұрын
You guys are forgetting the character development in Snyer cut. It is so much more rich and entertaining than the theatrical cut. In my opinion of course.
@ItWasAShtShow 7 ай бұрын
We discuss that in the ZSJL episode. But it’s not by much.
@marcoparada6652 Ай бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow, it's by alot! The Snyder cut really should had been turned into a four-part mini-series. It's definitely a binge. But, people want to say this cut doesn't work as a movie. It works as a more satisfying entertainment piece.
@joshelderkin9592 2 жыл бұрын
Who was mad the last jedi had people of color? That sounds increadibly made up 😂🤣 lando exists
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Do racist trolls ever make sense? They’re hypocrites by design.
@ETRHeydrich Жыл бұрын
I came to listen this expecting something like the rogue one podcast where we get the little details behind the scenes like the fact Snyder had a rough cut of the thing in his work laptop things like that, instead the podcast was more about shitting on snyder and his fanbase i made it to the hour mark and still no juicy details. Im not a snyder fan and for me his fanbase is a non factor i just like the behind the scenes details, title should be #zsnyderfanbase was a shitshow.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
We’ve covered the film itself twice before in our podcast. This episode is about the movement around it, and how itself was a Sh*t Show.
@master2uall88 Жыл бұрын
TOO LONG DIDN'T WATCH
@shemjeffs2953 Жыл бұрын
Did you end up on this video looking for somewhere to say this? Judging from your videos, I think yes. It's a podcast btw, not an essay, people literally come here because they have the time.
@giggityguns123 2 жыл бұрын
I think there is some evidence that rotten tomatoes and other “critics” are paid by studios to make good reviews or, at the very least, have flawed metrics . Shit, the new Nick Cage movie has an 87% and it was a bland, soulless advertisement disguised as a film. For reference, The Shining sits at 85.. I know film is subjective, but at least when Roger Ebert is wrong, their review doesnt seem like and advertising gimmick.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, that doesn’t happen. If it did, it still wouldn’t be enough reviewers to sway the numbers. Plus, just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean others shouldn’t. I thought Hero with Jet Li was so incredibly boring, but it sits at like 99%. That’s ok, it wasn’t for me.
@giggityguns123 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow Should sources with the perceived credibility of Rotten Tomatoes not be held to a certain standard though? Afterall, the tomatometer is controlled by them at the end of the day.
@vnci9644 Жыл бұрын
these are some shiiiiity political views.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
I know, Snyder cultists are the worst.
@brianjones8432 Жыл бұрын
"alt-right radicalized KZfaq algorithm"....... ROLLS EYES .......
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you’re barreling down that rabbit hole yourself…
@brianjones8432 Жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow You're just as bad as the people you're attempting to criticize. The whole "one size fits all", "all fans of something are the same" routine is so tired and played out. You're just the flipside of the coin......smh
@cal5000 Жыл бұрын
So explain how Josh Whedon butchering the Cyborg Story (he was the heart of the movie) and bullying Gal Godot was done in good faith. It wasn't a conspiracy, it was the general incompetence and douchebaggery of WB. The funniest thing about these reviews tearing down the work of others highlights none of you do anything and seem to have a taste for whatever shit you're fed by corporations. "We're fans" 10 minutes later "fans suck"...such credibility.
@punishedbarca761 Жыл бұрын
They spoke about the things you mentioned, in the first video. I'm taking a stand for integrity in the KZfaq comments industry. You guys have been allowed to spread biased comments for too long.
@hansjuker8296 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap! You obviously don't know anything about gamer gate.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Then you’re absolutely part of the problem. You’ve been fed a lie and need to look inward towards your own issues.
@hansjuker8296 Жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow Incredible. Went straight to ad hominem.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
That’s right. Game Gate was misogynistic revenge porn. If you think I’m wrong, that means you think it was about ethics in journalism, therefore you’re part of the problem.
@hansjuker8296 Жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow lol. She slept with 5 reviewers to get an inflated review for her game, and bullied a man into suicide. Then when she gets exposed, shrieks about the patriarchy. All the while, insulting the fandom and belittling every man that doesn't give her a pass on her toxic behavior. God bless her though, she managed to get nerds to stand up to bullies. Be they male or female.
@ItWasAShtShow Жыл бұрын
Hook. Line. Sinker. Oh you incels…
@Xavizenmx 2 жыл бұрын
#ReleaseTheSnyderCut shit show was a shit show, 😉
@thecopercoper5533 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god, you dont even know what gamergate was about.
@ItWasAShtShow 2 жыл бұрын
It was about harassing female game developers. If you believe anything otherwise, you’re part of the problem.
@SonicTheFrenchHorn 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty well-documented that it was a targeted harassment campaign against certain women in the video game industry. There's about a million videos about it.
@thecopercoper5533 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow Oh, the irony. The fact that you people STILL, after this many years, believe it was about harassing women, demonstrates just how uninformed you are.
@cal5000 Жыл бұрын
@@ItWasAShtShow And what are you basing this holier than thou attitude on? There were so many other issues. Media clowns like yourself ran to what about the misogynists and game journalism is still garbage and corrupt as hell. You clowns ignore "gaming journalists" who can't build a PC despite their claims and push shady agendas and bad actors. People like yourselves called Bullyhunters a good idea, even tho if wasn't real and part of a huge scam.
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