Shade Loving Tropical Fruit Trees in California’s Central Valley

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Shade Loving Tropical Fruit Trees in California’s Central Valley

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7/16/2024 - From personal experience, these are some of the tropical fruit trees that will appreciate some shade protection or filtered sun during the Central Valley’s summer days.

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@davidwelty9763 Ай бұрын

I live in Central Florida, I used to live in Temecula California. It’s not just the high temps , it’s the low humidity and endless sun of California. Here in a Florida it rains almost every afternoon for about 20 minutes during the summer. There are also partly cloudy skies here almost every day. I have no trouble growing tropicals here but in Temecula I had to provide partial shade. My USDA climate zone was 9B in California and it’s 9B here in Florida. It’s amazing how different the climates actually are.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Totally, having visited Orlando (also USDA Zone 9b) for a week, the humidity and actual rain, (and soil, etc) makes a world of difference.

@GM-rg8sk 29 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for making this video! I've got a wax jambu that I managed to snag online at a discount and it's been in my yard in basically full shade the entire summer north of you in the central valley. Glad to know I'm doing at least something right! I've also started growing mango from seeds due to being inspired by another one of your videos. Much appreciated!

@TropicalCentralValley 29 күн бұрын

You’re very welcome. That’s awesome on your wax jambu and mango seedlings. There’s nothing quite like having a hand in growing something that in turn rewards you with the most delicious fruits. Keep in mind, you’re also growing for future generations as the trees will likely outlive each of us.

@oliverantipala7518 Ай бұрын

lots of tree wow will follow u from san jose

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Thank you. In many ways, this is just the beginning, as years go by, the trees will only get better.

@jonasdubaere59 Ай бұрын

always happy to watch your vids, appreciate your uploads

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Thank you.

@abc-pb3ze Ай бұрын

Very valuable information! I am in south Portugal, zone 9b. It can get to 40 degree Celsius, full sun for months, similar climate to San Jose. I do have 10 white sapote in ground and full sun. They are doing amazing, even small airlayered plants. Every day consistent watering is the key. After seeing all of your videos, I have planted already 17 Jamun and lots of Ice Cream Bean trees. Especially the Jamun trees are incredibly fast grower and also beautiful, 3 feet’s growth the first year and no issues with anything else. I will do hundreds of Airlayering on the Jamun in August or September as a pioneer tree to provide shades for the upcoming mangos or other more sensitive fruit trees. Started doing a fruit forest on a 2 acres plot since 2 years and learned so much from you.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

That’s awesome. There’s nothing quite like tropical fruit trees growing in non-native climates. The trees and fruits do definitely stand out.

@pongop Ай бұрын

Interesting topic and helpful tips, as always. What you said about moving a plant to a sunnier spot, that the older leaves may die off but the younger leaves may adapt, that was enlightening. Thank you for that.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Thank you. The trees are smart and do adapt (eventually) to their climate.

@pongop Ай бұрын

@@TropicalCentralValley True! Plants are amazing.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Totally.

@rockers7889 Ай бұрын

Your jungle is looking great . My cheremoya is between a Meyer's lemon and green fig tree . It get just enough sun here in zone 10b . Im excited about seeing bananas for the first time ever on my grand Nain. They keep forming from the purple flower hanging down and is on row 6 . My wife is not all that excited like me , because she said she saw them all over the Philippines growing 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Very nice.

@growingtropicalsandexotics Ай бұрын

You're fruit forest is looking great as always, totally agree with the sun exposure guidelines on those trees, especially cherimoya which really does not like direct sunlight especially in 100+ degree weather. My cherimoya trees got sizzled even under 30% shade cloth had to double it to almost 60%+ and they're liking it a lot more, they're still smaller trees and are container grown and grafted, seedling growth tends to be a bit more sun tolerant but not always. Atemoyas on the other hand appear to be much more sun hardy as well as sugar apple as you mentioned.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Thank you. And the temperature only gets hotter every year.

@RussellBooth1977 Ай бұрын

Yes,I placed all of my smaller mango seedlings which I grew from seed under a Japanese maple tree so that the 37°C (100°F) heat didn't scorch them last summer here in Australia. I have a few of them which are about 1 metre or taller (3-4 feet) in height which are more acclimated & they have grown thicker trunks so that they can take the sun a bit better & even be more frost resistant as well !

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

That’s awesome. Specific to mango trees, yours will be able to handle the direct 37°C (and higher) in the coming years. My 2-3 year old seedling has been able to handle the extreme frost and dry summer without issues.

@DivineRotation Ай бұрын

Fantastic looking plants. Everything depends on micro climate and species. Here in San Diego on the coast temps are mild that we can get away with a lot of things in full sun like cherimoya, jaboticaba etc. Go 10-15 miles more inland where the sun is more oppressive and you can still grow those but will need a shade cloth or protection of some sort or will burn. Even still, some things just don't like a lot of sun on the coast like sapodilla and some of the eugenia species.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Totally. Although USDA Zone 9b, it’s really not even a close comparison when comparing my region to more tropical friendly places such as Orlando. Luckily, there are some techniques that we can apply to ensure the tropical fruit thrive in just about all regions.

@zedianzediessi Ай бұрын

How do you get your star fruit looking so healthy? I just planted one in Los Angeles it is about 7 ‘ tall growing rapidly but the leaves are discoloring turning yellow and white and falling off.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Nothing special on my end. Just lots of watering during the summer days. This is typical behavior for them as they do not like abrupt changes (hot days, then cool nights). I’d continue to keep watering them during the summer season.

@madfarm Ай бұрын

My 15' tall, 5 year old Caimito is struggling with sunburn here in 10b South Florida this year. It's brutal!

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

That’s interesting. Given the humidity, one would think your tree would be loving the full sun. When I was in Southeast Asia a few years back, there were a ton of caimito trees, young ones and mature ones growing in full sun without issues; then again, those trees were likely grown from seeds (or even wild). My more mature 2 year old caimito in the ground suffers from the occasional sun damage to its foliage during the 110°F-115°F dry days, but new foliage always grows to replace the damaged ones.

@vimeopictures5170 17 күн бұрын

I was extremely pissed with lychees and longans. In summer, their leaves would get burnt and just not grow. so, I moved these 2 plants to a shaded region....then the winter came and they wouldn't push even a single leaf out. Even the old ones started dying. Somehow I managed to save 2-3 leaves. So, I put these 2 in the pot and they died! Tried growing 10 more plants ( 5 lychees and 5 longans). Unfortunately, they couldn't survive! I gave up!😅😅😅

@TropicalCentralValley 17 күн бұрын

That’s a bummer. Specific to the lychee, as they are incredibly slow growers, they take a long time to recover from any sun or frost stress. The longan is a bit more forgiving though and depending on your variety, can be fast growers.

@vimeopictures5170 16 күн бұрын

@@TropicalCentralValley I really tried everything! I guess it's not for our climate. We get harsh winters (3-4 degree celsius), Harsh summers (52 degree celsius) and harsh rains (sometimes very little but sometimes severe flood like condition). Also, we are close to equator so Sun is really not forgiving. The clouds are very clear and we get intense sunrays. So, 52 degree celsius feels more like 62 degrees lol!

@TropicalCentralValley 16 күн бұрын

Although your summers are ever so slightly hotter than mine, your winters are perfect as the temperature do not drop below freezing. Specific to lychee and longan, they are quite frost tolerant. All of mine have been able to handle temperature down to -3.33°C for multiple days. Summer is a different story. It helps to provide some shade or filtered sun, especially in your climate. Try amending your soil, as both prefer the pH to be slightly acidic.

@1239marcos Ай бұрын

I have a few green sapote and white sapote and a lychee no damage from our central valley sun all day sun in tulare county

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

That’s awesome. What size are they?

@1239marcos Ай бұрын

@@TropicalCentralValley white sapote 3 different varieties there above 10 feet tall lychee at 5 feet green sapote at 2 feet but full sun on all do you know if red ilama annona can take our winter

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Nice. I’m fairly certain all of mine will have their foliage burned when we had those 117°F days. It’s amazing you’re able to get them in full sun, all day without any damage. For ilama, I have had to frost protect it.

@mgs721 Ай бұрын

Your front yard looks so lush and healthy; great job! I'm still trying to get my balances right; my front yard is more shaded and compacted soil (and TONS of squirrels and rats that eat all my fruit!) and my back/hillside is more open, full sun and sandier/better draining soil, but also patrolled by hawks. So 3 years in, still trying to figure out what will thrive where! FYI, I have an Alano Sapodilla and White Sapote (grown from seed) in full sun in the less-sheltered area and they're both doing great! My Black Sapote (from seed) got fried though.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Thank you. Concerning your yard, try and see if you’re able to plant the shade and wind protection trees such as Jamun, Capulin Cherry and bamboo either around the perimeter or middle of the yard. As for the Sapote and sapodilla, that is interesting. My experience has been the opposite. My seedling sapodilla gets fried while my Black Sapote looks great.

@mgs721 Ай бұрын

@@TropicalCentralValley If you're ever in the L.A./Pasadena area (I think you mentioned in a video you occasionally go to Mimosa Nursery in Alhambra?), I would love to invite you to come by and take a look. Would be great to get your input on my trees and hopefully/maybe you could find some inspiration too.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Thanks for the invite. I do, though it’s rare now visit some of the various tropical fruit tree nurseries in the LA region.

@kinglucas9922 Ай бұрын

I am also in the valley. You're right about Cherimoya, but the grafted portion Atomoya is taking it well.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Yeah, although damaged, the leaves will be replaced with newer ones.

@kinglucas9922 Ай бұрын

@TropicalCentralValley Yeah! Hopefully, thanks for the information!

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

You’re very welcome.

@xesoteryc Ай бұрын

Can Inga take the sun at a young age? I just got a new airlayered one in a one gallon and curious how slow I should take it in our valley heat. Thanks

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Mine has been able to take full sun, even when they were only a few feet tall. They grow incredibly fast.

@xesoteryc Ай бұрын

@TropicalCentralValley It's coming from Florida, hope it can acclimate but it sounds like it will. It's the Machete variety.

@tammynguyen8250 Ай бұрын

Your Manila mango is looking so healthy! Can you please share how much you water it and what do you fertilize to have such green leaves? Mine is 2 years bought from HD, a part of the leaves especially on the top is always seem burnt even though I water them every day. I'm in San Jose. Thank you so much for any advice you can give!

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Thank you. Although the Manila variety is quite forgiving, it can definitely appreciate some well draining soil and consistent fertilizing and watering. Where possible, I water all of my trees daily, every hour for about 5 minutes per session.

@fruitful_life3 Ай бұрын

Does your potted longan leaves get sun damage? My kahola gets sun burnt damage even here in socal 90s degree weather.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

No. Half of my longan trees are in containers due to space constraints; all are looking good and producing.

@fruitful_life3 Ай бұрын

not enough water or not acclimated? I got the tree from champa last December and I water once about every 2-3 days, its situated near a stone wall.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

It may be both. Assuming you haven’t changed the growing medium, see if you can upsize it to a container with new growing medium of half peat moss and half sand. I water mine daily, every hour for 5 minutes per session.

@libertyontheland Ай бұрын

Did you have a Reed avocado? How’s it doing?

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

I do, it’s the tree to the left of the Alano Sapodilla. It’s doing great, given the shade protection it has, it’s been able to handle the heatwave without issues.

@libertyontheland Ай бұрын

@@TropicalCentralValleyyou picked the perfect variety Reed are know to be one of the most heat tolerant and best tasting avocado. Also it’s upright growing and fits perfectly into high density planting

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

I totally agree. It’s also a somewhat compact tree when fully mature.

@PETITEFB Ай бұрын

Great video! I'm curious if you have HOA in your neighborhood! Do you have HOA?😄

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Fortunately, I do not live in an HOA, though, having one may benefit my other neighbors as they then need to tidy up their yard.

@PETITEFB 26 күн бұрын

@@TropicalCentralValley 😄

@TropicalCentralValley 26 күн бұрын

True statement. I’m fairly certain in a hypothetical scenario, I can get away with HOA regulations, though I may need to spend some time ensuring the trees look aesthetically pleasing.

@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxy26 Ай бұрын

Air layers can have weak root systems

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

This is true. Additionally, its branches are super weak and may snap in a windy situation.

@user-lc5uo5uj2f Ай бұрын

You will have more viewers if you wore shorter shorts.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

This is probably another myth, though I’ll have to confirm it.

@julvwildcat190 Ай бұрын

@@TropicalCentralValley😂

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

I think I should bust this myth. Going to see how low I can go before being removed from KZfaq.

@Vhrodriguez91 Ай бұрын

Howdy neighbor when can I get a 🥭mango

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Just about every grocery store carries them, though they’re picked and shipped days, if not weeks ago.

@sheckydiamond7533 Ай бұрын

This channel will gain subscribers if you did a little dancing.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Nah, the trees do all the dancing. I’m just their puppet that does the talking.

@staciep2638 Ай бұрын

Hi,my camito has flowers,I’m on Ontario

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Very nice. My older caimito hasn’t flowered yet, but should be next year. It’s a very beautiful tree.

@staciep2638 Ай бұрын

@@TropicalCentralValley it is so pretty

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Totally, especially when tall. The leaves are golden underneath.

@staciep2638 Ай бұрын

@@TropicalCentralValley yes mine looks like that!, it’s now seven feet

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Very nice. As you are in the Los Angeles area, your tropical fruit trees all should thrive.

@GrowsGoneWild Ай бұрын

Damn that’s hot. It was mid 80s for me today 😂. How old is that Achacha? Mine just put on its 4 pair of leaves after almost a year 😂

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Mines going 2 years in the ground. Was about 2 feet tall when first planted.

@GrowsGoneWild Ай бұрын

@@TropicalCentralValley nice. They are some seriously slow growers so far lol

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

This is very true. They’re one of the slowest growing tropical fruit trees, but their fruits are well worth the wait.

@GrowsGoneWild Ай бұрын

@@TropicalCentralValley I hope so. Haven’t tried Achacha before 😂. I’m growing Lucs Garcinia as well and haven’t had it either. But I am a big fan of mangosteens so pretty sure I will like them.

@TropicalCentralValley Ай бұрын

Although the Achacha and the Gamboge have a hint of the original purple mangosteen taste, both are a bit on the tart side, but still every good. I’d grow them all if possible.