Shaman King 2021 is pretty awful so far.

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Etheri0n

Etheri0n

3 жыл бұрын

At the time of recording, I have just finished watching the third episode of Shaman King 2021, and it was kind of the worst. So, I wanted to make a video talking about how it made a mockery of the events that were handled so much better in the original in my opinion.

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@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, I'm going to say this so that everybody knows. I have read the manga. I still prefer the original adaptation over the way the manga and the new adaptation handled this specific story. Its perfectly fine if you like the new adaptation for being faithful to the manga. This is just my opinion. Glad that so many people can enjoy it.
@Myra_C.
@Myra_C. 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said. This ep was so rushed lmao. I still prefer the older version over this one because they did a far better job at pacing, impact of scenes and storytelling imo, considering the eps so far. I do think the latest eps of the newer version were better paced so we'll have to see how the rest goes
@yusifudo46
@yusifudo46 3 жыл бұрын
This may be too early, but SPOILERS..... In the manga version, Anna was pregnant throughout most of the manga. That's likely what's going on with her. I think they may be secretly working that in and I also disliked that episode you're talking about in the original too.
@yusifudo46
@yusifudo46 3 жыл бұрын
@tremaine marion Hana was 5 when Yoh was 18. It wasn't in the original manga, but the continuation. It's largely implied they slept together some time before they headed to America, and it wasn't really confirmed until literally the final chapter after they finished fighting Hao.
@kuzureta7441
@kuzureta7441 3 жыл бұрын
So you are biased
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
@@kuzureta7441 how does that mean I'm biased?
@moonshredder5181
@moonshredder5181 2 жыл бұрын
Let's all agree on one thing the 2001 opening slaps with 64 episodes
@cappedminer369
@cappedminer369 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, some events were done much better despite not being faithful
@bebehillz
@bebehillz 2 жыл бұрын
LOOOOOOOOK AROUND YOU LOOOOOOOOOOK BEYOOOOOOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU MIGHT FIND AN UNBREAKABLE BOND!!!!!!!
@TheShockVox
@TheShockVox 2 жыл бұрын
Every shaman king opening is top tier
@calebmcclure3893
@calebmcclure3893 2 жыл бұрын
@@bebehillz THE WORLD AROUND YOU IS NOT WHAT SEEMS! IT'S ALL REVEALED BEYOND YOUR WILDEST DREEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAMMMMSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Blake-ld7mx
@Blake-ld7mx 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh I was thinking it would be the same opening until I saw the Garbage opening I was like wtf is this. Saturday mornings on jetix was the sht
@jellyface401
@jellyface401 3 жыл бұрын
Me disliking one piece streching one manga chapter for two episodes. Never thought I would want an anime to go slower.
@O1OO1O1
@O1OO1O1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't know why we used to have things that look as good as or better than things made today, but they could make many episodes, and these days they make hardly any. Anyone know why?
@oscardelgadillo4165
@oscardelgadillo4165 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@blakechildress944
@blakechildress944 2 жыл бұрын
@@O1OO1O1 the main reason anime series today sometimes dip in quality compared to what was made 15 or more years ago is because of the insane rushed production schedule anime studios face due to how many anime series are being forced upon these short staffed anime studios. It doesn't matter how much better the technology and resources we have now compared to 20 yrs ago because if you don't have the time and skilled artists to plan a script and execute a show then it'll just end up being mediocre and rushed. These animators are constantly being burnt out and payed nothing for their hard work because the television companies don't care and only see these shows as ways to market merchandise and we consumers are helping fund that instead of directly funding the creators. I wish there were a better way to pay these artists and animators. The anime industry is slowly collapsing in on itself because they're losing animators left and right due to stress, terrible work hours, and barely min wage. This is why Studio MAPPA is desperately asking for freelance animators from across the globe to work for them and their even accepting new animators that they'll have to train as the go. That's a long winded reason why we get sub par shows and reboots like this new Shaman King.
@gonzalogca4907
@gonzalogca4907 3 жыл бұрын
2001: - Anna's introduction and her training got their own episode - Jun's introduction and Lee Pai-Long's backstory got their own episode - Manta's struggle and the fight's resolution got their own episode 2021: - f*ck it, let's put all of that in one single episode
@elde7748
@elde7748 3 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭
@Carlos94016
@Carlos94016 3 жыл бұрын
And in the end, the old SK gave us 64 episodes. This will have over 150. The old SK barely scratched 20% of it.
@Carlos94016
@Carlos94016 3 жыл бұрын
@@copperfield42 Source?
@Carlos94016
@Carlos94016 3 жыл бұрын
@@copperfield42You're right. However, It does 52, but I think something was lost in translation somewhere. They say they will adapt THE ENTIRE manga into the anime. The manga has 300 chapters. Let's say 60 are not important. There s no way you make 240 chapters into 52 episodes. Or let's say 180 for the hell of it. There a no way. I mean, I hope at least lmao
@copperfield42
@copperfield42 3 жыл бұрын
@@Carlos94016 if they go with this break neck pace they can adapt it all, it would not be pretty tho...
@checksyllabus4062
@checksyllabus4062 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll just be hopeful and say their rushing the prologue arc and America arc to get to the tournament arc
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
It's good to be hopeful, I feel the same way for all shaman king fans.
@TheGrandmasterfro
@TheGrandmasterfro 3 жыл бұрын
I hope so. The beginning before Faust and Ren was slow as fuck
@checksyllabus4062
@checksyllabus4062 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGrandmasterfro if the save ren arc looks bad that means it’s time to bounce from this ship wreck
@Carlos94016
@Carlos94016 3 жыл бұрын
They are not rushing anything. They are doing the anime 100% based on the manga, which is what 100% they should do. Read the manga.
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
@Carlos94016 read my response to a comment left by the user ALASKANHIPPIES if you would like to continue this discussion
@lssjgaming1599
@lssjgaming1599 3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason it’s so fast rn becuase It’s trying to speedrun to get to the stuff that the old version did not cover. Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood was very similar early on. I have faith it will get better later on as Fmab was similar. The use of the Oversoul song in episode 5 was fucking epic tho. I wish there were more episodes maybe so they didn’t have to rush
@GDSK09
@GDSK09 3 жыл бұрын
We get new episodes every week so....
@Zoan1P
@Zoan1P 3 жыл бұрын
HunterXHunter (2011) also had a rushed beginning for what I believe is a similar reason. They want to focus animating what was not already shown in the past.
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
It's fine if you're okay with that, but I personally don't like it when an anime rushes through its early material. Glad you can enjoy it, I just don't. Thanks for watching.
@AubreyTheKing
@AubreyTheKing 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@ghostridernz17
@ghostridernz17 3 жыл бұрын
@@lampad4549 well i mean is this anime being completely faithful to the manga? And nothing is being skipped out on from the manga?
@gravethestampede3454
@gravethestampede3454 3 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure Jun's plan wasn't supposed to be necessarily advantageous to her. It was just a big flex with her being all "you saw how awesome that movie star was with the nunchuks and cool martial arts shit right? Well now he's gonna pound you down!" Or something like that. It was more a show of confidence rather than strategic planning.
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, as she's explaining this, she also mentions how amazing of a gift from family Pairon is.
@Matias-cx3wg
@Matias-cx3wg 3 жыл бұрын
Even though I LOVE Shaman King with all my hearth, this version (so far) is rushed as hell and sometimes, animation looks awful. The last episode, were Silver is introduced, just looks lazy done, awfully animated and just had a nice nostalgic moment when they used the original opening song. I know it's adapting more faithfully the source material, but the characters are not well introduced.
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, feel the same way. Episode 5 was one of the least bad ones though. Some of them are plain terrible. Thanks for the comment.
@Matias-cx3wg
@Matias-cx3wg 3 жыл бұрын
@@etheri0n959 great analysis, even thoug as a Shaman King fan was hard to hear lol. Keep the good work.
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that. Didn't mean to come in as that harsh. Thanks for watching despite that.
@ThePreciseClimber
@ThePreciseClimber 3 жыл бұрын
One can only hope the 2nd half of the story isn't going to be as rushed so you could watch the beginning of Shaman King 2001 first and then switch to SK 2021 after the divergence point.
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
That would be ideal.
@LilC1deep
@LilC1deep 3 жыл бұрын
What would be a good point to switch over?
@DootNootem
@DootNootem 3 жыл бұрын
The 2001 adaptation loosely follows the Manga (with some fillers) up until around episode 50 and a specific chapter is also sort of adapted around episode 58-59, after which the custom ending takes 4 episodes. I'd say, switch over once you have a clear understanding of the show (possibly around episode 40) since it appears that the new adaptation is going to catch up in no time, likely by episode 17.
@crono276
@crono276 2 жыл бұрын
That just sounds like lol just watch the first half of fma 2003 and then switch to fmab. It's just not a good idea.
@Totalscreenadvance
@Totalscreenadvance 3 жыл бұрын
Bottom line is the reboot is being rushed ...it was rebooted just to rectify the original's terrible ending and they are showing that by how they are breezing through it, just to get to their goal...the fact that the opening theme shows yoh's entire team proves they arent interested in allowing us to enjoy the ride. This makes me sad because Shaman King is still in my top 10 😭
@thenintenbrogamer6022
@thenintenbrogamer6022 3 жыл бұрын
You couldn't have said it any better first episode of The show went for like four chapters in the manga now I haven't read that much manga or watch that much anime but I'm pretty sure most anime don't go through their manga counterparts chapters that far but the only thing I disagree with is that the original ending was in parable the original ending was awesome
@R0-83-RT
@R0-83-RT 3 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, more than the ending this series is primarily focused on getting to one thing, Hao. While he is in the older anime a lot of his development motivation, and parallels weren't developed. Without that he just kind of feels like Zamasu from Dragon Ball Super, "nothing against Zamasu". I think it is pretty evident by the fact the opening scene of the first episode shows Hao's birth and even the first couple of trailers liked to show off Hao prominently.
@Totalscreenadvance
@Totalscreenadvance 3 жыл бұрын
@@R0-83-RT which isn't a bad thing. As the primary antagonist, Hao deserves to be fleshed out. It makes the story so much better when you understand the villain, but again slow it down. We are talking about a character who doesn't appear until chapter 60 or 70 of the manga.
@dreamcastdazia4753
@dreamcastdazia4753 3 жыл бұрын
Terrible ending? The ending was fixed since 2007 with the Kazebban release... It ended with over 300 chapters cause if that. And the ending was good
@R0-83-RT
@R0-83-RT 3 жыл бұрын
@@dreamcastdazia4753 Pretty sure he was talking about the 2001 anime ending.
@neos5432
@neos5432 3 жыл бұрын
the pacing feels so rushed, i doubt they can even adapt the whole manga without skiping stuff or slowing down the pace
@romeostojka7232
@romeostojka7232 3 жыл бұрын
They will slow pace don’t worry they rushing because they assuming you already watch original therefore they rushing all this to get to the episodes th we never watch which matches the manga parts something original one didn’t had it’s same way how fullmetal alchemist brotherhood was
@jjanonymous8281
@jjanonymous8281 3 жыл бұрын
The rushing bothers me but not enough to drop it. It feels like they are speed running. Hopefully when the actual tournament starts like the trials and stuff they slow it down a lot. Even if they wanted to speed run they shouldn’t have cut out the important parts like Anna’s training. It kinda takes away from how much Anna wants him to fulfill his dream, without the training it kinda makes Anna seem like she is just there to be his wife and to yell at him. Seeing Anna talk about Yoh’s improvement but not seeing it for yourself throws me off.
@DuuzDizDin
@DuuzDizDin 3 жыл бұрын
I've been making a video series comparing the Manga to both versions of the anime and I've found that while the 2021 version is far more in line with the manga the 2001 series did it's best to build tension and have deeper character moments. And dispite the similarities the 2021 series even cut out moments from the manga as well. Hopefully the new series starts to slow things down when it gets to the part where the original anime diverged from the manga.
@OIDAS
@OIDAS 3 жыл бұрын
does the anime industry, listens to feedback during production?? bcuz that's the only way i could see a change come...
@cappedminer369
@cappedminer369 2 жыл бұрын
Cool, is there a link ?
@Woodsaras
@Woodsaras 8 ай бұрын
That must be the dmbest excuse ever. If you cant fckng tell a story properly, dont tell it.
@tengoodquestions
@tengoodquestions 2 жыл бұрын
I cant lie i enjoyed it, looking forward to the next parts. even though the OG didnt rush the early stages i feel as though once it gets to the tournament it should be paced better if not then that’d be a shame. also was the the only one who could see the dub for every episode except the last?
@Woodsaras
@Woodsaras 8 ай бұрын
So an excuse for being shty anime is that someone else already did it before? XD thats why our creation sucks? XD "you can watch it in another series"? Wow. Great fkng logic.
@christinepayne1618
@christinepayne1618 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, I thought I was the only one that didn't like the new anime, I've been called a nostalfag over and over by people who believe this one is better only because it's supposedly "more faithful" to the manga. The thing is we're already on episode 6 or 7 and if it wasn't for the old series and the manga itself, I wouldn't have been able to relate to any of the characters. The animation might be pretty decent but the pacing is destroying it for me
@nanofate8662
@nanofate8662 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf is a Nostalfag even? The things people try to be pretentious over.
@voidnoidoid
@voidnoidoid 2 жыл бұрын
I'm too young to have seen the 2001 version (I was born in 2005!) and I wanted to give shaman king a try.... but the pacing of the first episode was so fast I couldn't get into it
@oguzhangungor9117
@oguzhangungor9117 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the original anime did improve the first half of the manga on a lot of things. Some examples being Ryu's slow but steady development to being a good guy instead of just changing at once in the manga, Horo horo (Tray) meeting Yoh early to cement their friendship etc etc... Heck, I even prefer some of the decisions they made for the second half. Then again, I just prefer the original anime overall. Welp, the main reason we are here is to see the second half adapted anyways, so lets see. I will miss the road to Dobi village from the original but......I will always have the original for that. All things considered though, I am kinda sad that people are so quick to be apologist for this show. "Oh they are saving the budget for the good parts", what good parts? You mean to tell me that Yoh vs Pai Long wasn't a good part? Yoh vs Lan the first 2 fights weren't worthy? Fuck no! Don't defend this shit! Be critical. Just because it is going to be more "faithful" to the original doesn't mean that you should defend it.
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Honestly starting to get tired of hearing that argument right now. Glad you agreed my criticism and I hope the show gets better.
@nooneimportant4961
@nooneimportant4961 3 жыл бұрын
I also always thought that the anime-only content and some of the changes in the original anime improved the story. I love the slower pacing. Not saying I'm not okay with how the story goes in the manga, but in the old anime they took the original content and expanded it, added more scenes and dialogues which fleshed out the characters, build up the relationship between them even more and made the story much more interesting. Hell, they even gave us a quick training montage. I feel almost nothing for the characters in the new adaptation, the story is going way too fast...
@bakugoukatsuki209
@bakugoukatsuki209 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up watching Shaman King 🥺 and I must say this is really sad
@ragnaricstudios5888
@ragnaricstudios5888 3 жыл бұрын
Keep you’re hopes up, there’s still 47 episodes left.
@yesman1743
@yesman1743 3 жыл бұрын
This is the manga adaptation, the ending will be better.
@aer0ul
@aer0ul 3 жыл бұрын
the old shaman king was x10 better than this story, all they just did was making the start in a fucking rush, like what happens in ep 4 of shaman king 2021 happens in ep 10 in shaman king 2004
@CraftyTan
@CraftyTan 2 жыл бұрын
It’s sad even there Voices are horrible! All sound like girls! Not true voices and Rio voice is horrible
@panduh4852
@panduh4852 2 жыл бұрын
@@CraftyTan I like the voices and I have no idea what your talking about they sound perfectly normal are you watching some type of dub or something
@a.d.234
@a.d.234 3 жыл бұрын
I dearly loved the 2001 version, when I first watched it in my teenage years. So.. Nostalgia. And I feel like there is a lot talking in the new version.. combined with the pacing, it seems like the new adaption it's more about straight forward telling than showing. (Which was super important when they built up Yohs and Annas relationship - which I adore - but also every character developement and friendship which was built along the way.. )
@christodang
@christodang 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that pacing is all over the place and the 2021 remake definitely has the "abridged" vibe to it. What I fear is happening is that they want to just breeze through these early episodes to reach the major plot point during the Shaman Fight where the 2001 anime majorly diverges from the manga; they're making an assumption that this is what the viewers want to see, and while they're not 100% wrong, they still need to make the series overall coherent. I feel Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood did this better.
@lordspazmonkey
@lordspazmonkey 2 жыл бұрын
I think you're right about the reason the early episodes feel a bit rushed, although in honesty having just re-read the manga recently they feel more in line with the pace of the manga than the original anime, also I think TXN has a lot to do with the pacing issues too as they've only been greenlit for 52 episodes whereas the original had 64 episodes and an unfinished plot so they had a lot of gags added to fill the time and then make their own ending with what they had. Brotherhood also felt a bit rushed to me at the beginning so I'm holding out some hope for this one, granted I've only seen up to Ren leaving for China on the Netfiix version so far
@anger407
@anger407 2 жыл бұрын
Brotherhood is actually the original story the 2003 anime is kind of it’s own thing
@christodang
@christodang 2 жыл бұрын
@@anger407 Same with this remake of Shaman King technically (hence my comparison); the 2021 series is closer to the manga while the 2001 series, while nostalgic, had large differences.
@purematty6611
@purematty6611 3 жыл бұрын
my friend whos a big fan has said they're rushing the start to get to more in depth content later on, but i haven't seen the original and im almost at the point where im gonna drop the 2021 remake
@silverwolf2643
@silverwolf2643 3 жыл бұрын
Watch the original anime bro, it is identical to the manga for the first half. The new anime will get important when we get to the new stuff.
@VictorEmilGutuiu
@VictorEmilGutuiu 3 жыл бұрын
I personally loved the first adaptation but I love this alot as well. I am curious of how it will end because I heard that the end could be a little bit different but I am planning to enjoy the journey of Yoh and his mates :)
@kiwoxgen9929
@kiwoxgen9929 2 ай бұрын
I bet you finished watching the anime already, are you enjoying it? Bcz I'm not 🤣
@Ryuryusu
@Ryuryusu 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the new anime’s problem is that it’s trying too hard to be like the manga pacing doesn’t bother me since I remembered all of the first arc but if you look at the new one and the manga you can see there’s so many similarities making the fights feel a little lackluster unlike the og
@koolerman4443
@koolerman4443 3 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I def think that this show wants to focus more on the source material of the manga that was cut from the original show. If you've watched HxH or FMAB, you will khow that certain part in the beginning is shortened, so that the parts of the manga that wasn't shown in the original can be shown. Imagine if we were living in 2009 when brotherhoos was on its fifth episode and judged it for being rushed. Brotherhood picked up the pace by episode 18-20. So lets be patient. Also strangely i like this version of Anna more then the original. In the original anime, she seemed very inhumane and inconsiderate, shes not as tough on people in this version, and seems more human. Idk, i really liked what she said in the latest episode when Manta criticized that Yoh is too lazy to be shaman king. It made me understand why Anna was so upset when she saw Yoh beat up in the hospital. She really does care for him, and wants him to achive the freedom of choice one gets after becomming Shaman king ( In yohs case, he wants to be lazy lol) But she needs to be tough on him so he understands the weight it takes to become Shaman king. ANNA 2021 IS BEST GIRL, Yall cant change my mind,
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely not judging the whole thing yet. This video is so far. I'm coming back to it again, but even so I don't think that rushed material early on can be simply excused by saying it will get better. Thanks for your take on the whole thing.
@koolerman4443
@koolerman4443 3 жыл бұрын
@@etheri0n959 Sure, what i was saying was that the show wants to focus on the parts that were cut from the original series thats more related to the manga. I think comparing this to the original series isnt fair at least to me. This series is out so that it can complete SK as closest to the manga as possible.
@bettinadelcastillo6065
@bettinadelcastillo6065 3 жыл бұрын
THIS!
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174 3 жыл бұрын
This Anna is the same Anna from the manga rather than the old anime. And this Anna is a better version no doubt, but her personality is not the issue. The issue is character development. I've read the manga pretty recently and all that they've shown here makes sense to me because I know and have experienced all the character development from reading it, the problem is how much development they've skipped in the anime. As a standalone product, this anime is borderline unwatchable for how much development and story elements they're skipping to save time. You pretty much HAVE to read the manga before watching this or you'll get the series both spoiled and ruined. And then you can only watch this as a short recap/summary of the manga, not as a standalone series.
@mazenmohamed4861
@mazenmohamed4861 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t watch or read the previous adaptation/manga But I agree with u I really like anna-yoh relationship very much and while I don’t understand some stuff like the movie tickets and this stuff I will say this It didn’t matter to me at all I was more invested in the characters and didn’t notice the flaws of the anime Also some people are calling it fmab younger brother bec fmab was rushed as well from the beginning but it picked up the pace and became what it is now So I hope that is real and I’m not gonna be seeing any reviews about this anime for a while now cuz I got my conclusion from the 6episodes I watched
@crunchdoggie
@crunchdoggie 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. On another note, it honestly sounds like hardcore coping when people say "it'll get better when the show diverges from the original" or "they'll give the show an extension so it won't feel so rushed later on".
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think rushing through early material on purpose should ever be justified. That's just such a lazy mindset in my opinion. Thanks for the comment.
@burningcobra68
@burningcobra68 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain the final epdoade cause i never understand cause its like a cliff hanger
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
The show got canceled after that episode.
@statonvhs725
@statonvhs725 2 жыл бұрын
The “cuts” you’re complaining about weren’t in the manga, that’s the point of the 2021 version
@ForgottenFafnir
@ForgottenFafnir 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't it cut out the entire introduction to shamanism in the manga? Where Yoh is shown helping spirits move on by letting them possess him to complete the things tying them to the world?
@makokenji4350
@makokenji4350 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForgottenFafnir That was useless and boring. No one wants to see that bullshit lol.
@challengerjakku1943
@challengerjakku1943 4 ай бұрын
​@@ForgottenFafniryep, both the falling billboard chapter and soul boxing were entirely cut
@ForgottenFafnir
@ForgottenFafnir 4 ай бұрын
@@challengerjakku1943 I will say, it does feel like they changed directions with how none of that ever comes back into play again, except for establishing Ryu and how he could be a victim for possession
@channelforcomments4430
@channelforcomments4430 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to know that I'm not the only one who though episode 3 was trash. Me and my sister grew up with the original anime dubbed in Tagalog, and we both thought that the third episode is missing something.
@DootNootem
@DootNootem 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed with everything! I was very hopeful in the beginning, but I instead decided to just watch the 2001 anime all the way through and even read the manga in the meantime. I liked that the original, even though it didn't stay true to the manga, added actual episodes that gave meaning to the characters and fun tidbits such as Ryu singing on their way to Izumo with Manta (heck, the Lee Pai Long movie was actually in Chinese) and several surprise gags. All of that gave the 2001 adaptation quite a nice personality, to be fair. I keep thinking I could brush the pacing of 2021 aside since I know the story well enough, but then I realize that most of the animation is still frames with only the character's mouth animated and extremely boring camera views. It's especially apparent when compared to the flashy and smooth Hyoui Gattai animations and ominous camera angles of the original.
@stayontrack
@stayontrack 3 жыл бұрын
yooo is this freezer from smashladder? (im ladder)
@alexanderirryeris9391
@alexanderirryeris9391 3 жыл бұрын
I was reading the manga and yeah they did cut alot of scenes and the fact that they didnt show the talk between Jun and Ren, which btw sets up up Lee Pai long. The only thing is that If we got that scene, it wouldnt be confusing .
@kocetociparov1089
@kocetociparov1089 3 жыл бұрын
Shaman king 2021 makes no sense plot wise. I hate that they are ruining the great story because they are lazy and cut sooo much material it's not even funny. Change the studio. Bridge ain't it chief.
@ShijioHirojima567
@ShijioHirojima567 3 жыл бұрын
Was wondering why I haven't heard much about the reboot a month after the reboot was released, sucks they had to change so much from the Manga and older Anime I was hoping they wouldve adapted the best parts of both and make it a lot better than before but that is very sad.
@Angela5213
@Angela5213 3 жыл бұрын
ok, i have a question. did the new series pick up where the old series left off or did they start the whole thing all over again????
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
They're starting from the beginning.
@Angela5213
@Angela5213 3 жыл бұрын
@@etheri0n959 well that sux and bites. i much prefer the original series. i read the manga and i was rather disappointed in it and with it. i think if they were gonna pick up the anime version again they should have started it from where the original series left off.
@joshuajeffrey4848
@joshuajeffrey4848 2 жыл бұрын
My personal opinion is it more aimed at those like me that actually grew up around the time the original aired. I read posts from others that in the original they changed a number of things from the manga, made the fights longer and added filler episodes, bulking it out to 64 episodes which is why everything seems quicker in the reboot (because it is). The reboot is at episode 19 now they’re in the shaman fights. In episode 19 of the original Yoh was still fighting Lenny ffs. I’m not saying I wouldn’t like some longer fights but having already seen the original I wouldn’t want to sit through 2-3 episodes of Yoh and Lenny fighting ‘again’ I’d just go rewatch SK01. I’m holding out hope that the speedy start of SK21 will enable some more awesome content and fights that didn’t make it in the first time round. 🤞🏻
@edbertextreme
@edbertextreme 2 жыл бұрын
It is their is more important story like Yoh and Anna backstory
@yohkenasakura9443
@yohkenasakura9443 3 жыл бұрын
The reboot is not an anime reboot but adaps the manga which the old anime added a lot (good and bad) and the story at some point in anime is not even the same like FMA its just super random and characters dont make sense anymore.Now because the new adapation is the manga well we suffer of a really ok begining its not great i admit but trust me it should get better once story element kicks in. Most of this either old anime or manga those early part where never relevent or vagueley.
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
I get that it'll probably get better, but I don't think that that's enough to excuse blatantly rushing through early material. I hope that it does the manga justice for people who were let down by the original anime though, and I'll definitely watch it all the way through before I give my final thoughts on the show. Thanks for watching the video.
@yohkenasakura9443
@yohkenasakura9443 3 жыл бұрын
@@etheri0n959 Yeah i get what you mean although putting 300 chapters for 52 episodes cuts are made and (i hope) that once we get into the manga stuff that were not in the original anime you"ll like it. The story becomes way deeper and interesting the old anime sadly coulndt cover that and changed the whole story but this time around we should those details... but yeah a bit fast sadly only 52 episodes to cover more then the original anime in less episodes (old anime had 64)
@saavedraesputo
@saavedraesputo 3 жыл бұрын
It's sad, I put all my trust that they adapted ALL the manga, but apparently it won't be like that (I think), and sadder that the old adaptation is better
@TheBlindphotography
@TheBlindphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I watch the new one
@joshualapura
@joshualapura 2 жыл бұрын
Zoro(dot)to
@strange4107
@strange4107 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me some of the songs you used in the video?
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, out of mere play from persona 4 the animation and manjien no 1 page from og shaman king.
@lightbear939
@lightbear939 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I loved the culture of the show. I never seen the original so it was a new experience and I enjoyed it.
@orochimaruorochimaru9730
@orochimaruorochimaru9730 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: manta is actually op. He just hides his strength.
@charkybush
@charkybush 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I watch the original
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 2 жыл бұрын
The only means available right now is pirating.
@pikastudios2850
@pikastudios2850 2 жыл бұрын
Where do I watch the original shaman king
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 2 жыл бұрын
I have the dvds. Other than that you can pirate it.
@angelaplaisance2276
@angelaplaisance2276 3 жыл бұрын
Where can i watch?
@edbertextreme
@edbertextreme 3 жыл бұрын
I more into the storyline and the outcomr, since i read the manga first before completing the old one, I like the 2021. When watching the 2021 version I realise that the old one add many unnecessary scene such as tied manta to a tree, making Ren defeat Yoh and make it as 2 episode with cliffhanger, sending assassin to attack Yoh, Horo-Horo early debut and creating another Harusame that use spirit power instead of using the original one and test it againts a Shikigami.
@akachiubani-ebere9497
@akachiubani-ebere9497 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I literally just did a page to screen comparison and the new one does mostly everything in the manga. The person who made this video said he read the manga, but I'm pretty sure he is lying.
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 2 жыл бұрын
I started reading the manga after I made this video. Pretty sure I mentioned that in my comment. Sorry if I didn't. But, I even went into it more in my follow up videos to this one if you want to watch, which you probably won't.
@francoperalta5986
@francoperalta5986 3 жыл бұрын
Its almost like they assumed you saw the original and just want to get the stuff you've already seen out of the way and just leave the bits the manga regardless of the expense of the quality of the anime. Like every other Reboot/Retelling such as Fullmetal Alchemist and Hunter Hunter shows. By the way in the dub. Pailong wanted to stay with Jun and help to atone for their sins. Also did they forget about Xaolin, and Yoh using his spirit to fight Pailong in the battle?
@BeyondAnimation
@BeyondAnimation 3 жыл бұрын
Even if i saw the original, i want a good story that isn't rushed to shit. Whats the harm in that?
@kendrayoung5250
@kendrayoung5250 3 жыл бұрын
Ion mind the rush I’m ready to see what happen after he fight Zeke
@herrice3227
@herrice3227 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an old sop who loved the original Shaman King too much to drop the new version - but you aren't wrong. Maybe I oughta watch the original show again alongside the new one as you are.
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174
@pasijutaulietuviuesas9174 3 жыл бұрын
You can tell how bad the episodes get by how many episodes they cram into one.
@echung168
@echung168 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the reason for this reboot meant to produce the series in the order of the manga whereas the 4Kids version went off in their own direction hence the abrupt ending of the series back in the early 2000s. Maybe because I have a small recollection of what happened back then, but I didn't go back and watch the old series before watching this remake. I haven't read the manga to its completion but I have skimmed some of the ending chapters and saw some of the ending chapters online where I was like "wtf, where was this in this series" only to find out that 4Kids had ended the entire series where before an official Shaman King was named. Then I found out that ratings were not good for the show and 4Kids had ended the series. I was glad this 2021 reboot got made. And even to that extent, the beginning episodes were so slow and did wish that it they rushed it even more. I was sitting through the first few episodes with boredom and just hoping it would hurry up to the Shaman Fights. But of course, they couldn't skip the beginning episodes in its entirety for any new viewer. They also didn't want to make old viewers who wanted to reminisce their childhood sit through hours, days, and weeks of watching something they saw already years ago. The rushed events were a good settlement to satiy BOTH new and old viewers. New viewers got a glimpse into what it was like pre-Shaman fights, and old viewers got to hurry onto the main event.
@mazenmohamed4861
@mazenmohamed4861 3 жыл бұрын
I must say even tho people say it kinda is rushed I enjoy it very much tbh This show really growing on me rn I really am loving it If it really is bad would u recommend me reading the manga or watching the older anime? I will hear ur thoughts guys
@mazenmohamed4861
@mazenmohamed4861 3 жыл бұрын
@@sonicthe93 yeah I only know shaman king from the remake so I guess it won’t hurt me if there are some stuff different from manga and I really fricking love the the remake Maybe I will just stick to it then read the manga when it finishes cuz then I will be free of school cuz rn I’m at my last year of school nearing exams period so yeah I will just continue with the anime
@maksimf17
@maksimf17 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I was watching Shaman King as a child and really loved it. Honestly I thought that it was only my opinion that Shaman King 2021 wasn't that good because I had so much nostalgia for the original. However you made good points and that made me realise that Shaman King 2021 indeed is only ok at best. I will continue watching it but it just hasn't had the charm and the coolness of the original I really hope that they are going to take at least some time to develop the characters.
@spiritakarabbit369
@spiritakarabbit369 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's also important to note that the 2001 original English song that many of us grew up with has been pitched up on KZfaq on many different videos versus the lower mellower pitch that many of us remember. I'm a musician, and many of us have what is known as perfect pitch so we can pick up the differences in tuning and we can still remember how certain songs sounded like in our childhood, I won't get into the whole 432 Hertz thing but that's also very important which I recommend people seriously do some research cuz it's not something that's in the shadows... they know what they're doing when they're changing pitches... I'll be sharing a video with the song pitched closer to the original key... so far I've covered I believe 2 songs and repitched them
@17Kenzaki
@17Kenzaki 3 жыл бұрын
they cut the content of vaust changing his bones. it was there in the manga but not in the new anime
@idreadFell365
@idreadFell365 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to go back and forth with watching the old one and the new one. The new one basically crams 2-3 old episode pieces into 1 by skipping so much scenes and characterization. An there I noticed scenes where being switched around. Currently for me right now, I’ve already seen Horahora in the old one but haven’t really seen him in the new one just yet. I feel Ryu in the new one was done dirty. He was kind of an @sshole for unnecessarily longer and didn’t get much scenes delved into him. He was also shown to have p3do tendencies in the new version.
@jjmaster0113pro
@jjmaster0113pro 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished the new one its amazing! I wasn't sure about it at first but once you get past the first few episodes you get so invested in it the story and the fights are amazing!
@francisconavarrete2390
@francisconavarrete2390 2 жыл бұрын
What 😳 Ryu aint a p word
@julienserriere2395
@julienserriere2395 2 жыл бұрын
Ryu likes cute girls (and they are younger than him). But Ryu isn't an adult yet. He is 17. Plus... Japan... They have that kind of culture ^^'
@freshcupofangst
@freshcupofangst 2 жыл бұрын
I'm reading the manga rn, haven't watched the anime, and it low key breaks my heart to hear they did Ryu dirty.
@johncoreyturner9914
@johncoreyturner9914 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who LIVES to shit on the "Brotherhood" trend for series that I love like FMA 03 and now Shaman King, your video gives me so much joy. I honestly expected most of the comments here being some flavor of "well, it's just being faithful to the manga, so what are you complaining about?" or something and, again, pleasantly surprised that most others seem not fond of the rushed pacing. I wholeheartedly love Shaman King. I was admittedly very expect for the reboot but I find myself rewatching and preferring the old 4kids dub with a friend of mine to this series. I'm genuinely confused about why the show is on a speed run. The early parts of the series are very important to set up and make you feel for these characters and we're just throwing it all away!! Even for a "manga faithful" adaptation a few characters were totally omitted and I find myself less invested in the bonds between Yoh, Manta and Amidamaru. I doubt it'll get better, but I hope it surprises me 🤷🏿‍♂️
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could give you that joy. The early parts of the series are also essential to getting the audience hooked, which is why it's kind of dumb to justify rushing through the beginning.
@masterjack-o-ween7872
@masterjack-o-ween7872 2 жыл бұрын
I like fma brotherhood tho
@vn01208503
@vn01208503 2 жыл бұрын
lol brotherhood was masterpiece
@O1OO1O1
@O1OO1O1 2 жыл бұрын
Why not just say, "go watch these episodes," and adapt it from the new content? I'd rather watch a well-funded, well made Berserk series than a new Berserk movie trilogy that is mostly the same as what came before.
@zeo1191
@zeo1191 3 жыл бұрын
I mean you aren’t wrong at all, as someone who grew up with the original, and have watched it on many occasions, and has read the manga, I can definitely agree with what you’re saying, since episode 1, and even past this episode, up to the current episode, I’ve always felt dissatisfied, or disappointed with each episode, and how bad the pacing was. they just skip out on so many memorable moments for me. in the original, I loved spending time with the cast, getting to know them, And you can’t really do that with this adaptation. But at the same time, I know and understand why they have done this. This new shaman king is definitely not for new comers, the reason why the beginning of this anime has be handled so badly, is because the creators know that fans already know the story, and because of this, they wanna get to the new material that wasn’t present in the original anime, Because most of the original anime, was filler up to a certain point. So as someone who has been a fan pretty much their whole life, I can say I’m disappointed, But at the same time, I am really excited to see the parts of the manga that never got adapted in the original, animated in this new one, I also feel as if the budget is gonna be spent on these parts that I was talking about, at least I hope. Because the stuff that happens later in the manga gets pretty fucking sick I can’t lie. as a new comer to the series, I do recommend at least finishing all the original anime and to stick with this new series, Because I do personally believe you’ll like the series in general, well that’s if you like early 2000’s battle Shonen lmao. I would just say read the manga, because it honestly is a lot better, but at the end of the day, it’s just personal preference.
@EluzDray
@EluzDray 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you and as a long time Shaman King fan this new one has cut out a good amount of material that I enjoyed as a kid n definitely makes the episodes feel rushed. But I get why they did it because they know a lot of us already have read the Mangas & seen the original adaptation. Either way I'm looking forward to what they have in store for it & if I end up not being happy with how it turns out there's always the original to turn back too.
@ItsSquonkingTime
@ItsSquonkingTime 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you watch the original
@TheGrandmasterfro
@TheGrandmasterfro 3 жыл бұрын
The choreography is better in 1 so far 100% The openings even show this
@Hdx64
@Hdx64 3 жыл бұрын
Dude the opening is the worst offender... You have the opening of your series, the first thing you see... Spoiling everything, How's friendship with Ren, a bunch of characters including, surprise Faust, powered versions of spirits and oversouls... No, that was some lazy decision making right there to.be able to use that opening for the whole 54/56 episodes
@Hdx64
@Hdx64 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be the first to say... I think we all jumped the gun a bit. They have really course corrected since EP 5 and Ep 6 was actually spot on. I'm beginning to warm up to the anime
@OIDAS
@OIDAS 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hdx64 really i hope it gets better, but damn, from what i know horohoro debuts even earlier than the original anime... i haven't watched 5 yet but damn one ep intro to OS, next horohoro fight and next faust fight?? seems kinda compressed, might take a look at manga and 2001 to see how that was handled..
@Hdx64
@Hdx64 3 жыл бұрын
@@OIDAS it's following the manga pretty closely, that was how the manga did it too, the only things they have cut are all the American natives stuff with the shaman council. In the manga that really grinds the story to a halt, but overall they have found their stride. I haven't watched ep 7 tho maybe it got bad again I will check and edit lol
@OIDAS
@OIDAS 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hdx64 I it sure is every time I check the manga, it's spot on but still it kinda feels like somethings missing, I guess 2001 had more tension, but this last 3 eps were nice, they just have to improve the animation, make it more fluid, instead of so many still shots, you never see the moves just see the moments it Connects, during fights
@adisrapromthep5912
@adisrapromthep5912 3 жыл бұрын
How far did you watch the original by the way? All the way? But dear god those are some really awesome shots, and I feel the need to rewatch it now... There are elements that are closer to the manga in this new version, but it still didn't do the manga justice. I think the original anime made changes so it make more sense. I do think they rush things a whole lot and I'm actually getting worried... Because some of the arcs that I like comes early on and if they rush it, they might ruined it.
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
Right now, I'm about half way through, and I'm really enjoying it still. I think it's a really enjoyable watch.
@adisrapromthep5912
@adisrapromthep5912 3 жыл бұрын
@@etheri0n959 Despite the many fillers, I really likes it back then as well. And I generally like the style back then more. With this comparison, I can see quite clearly that the animation back then was well done, even if it's not as pretty looking as the new version. I know that the main reason this was made is to give it the same treatment as FMA Brotherhood (which I think also rush the early episode as well, I don't remember anything from the early part tbh because I replace it with 2003 version). And I would love to see the later half of the manga made anime. I think it is still a fair comparison, even if you can't judge an anime on 3-4 episodes. But still... if you can't hook people during the first 3 episode, they can't get new viewers. Beside rushing, this may have to do with the anime director focus too much on being faithful to the manga and get to the "good part" faster. ...If they messed up the Faust VIII fight and Tao family arc I am going to be upset TT-TT
@adisrapromthep5912
@adisrapromthep5912 3 жыл бұрын
@@unclepiccolo4832 Yeah. Maybe we also have to wait a bit and let them get pass the exposition part. I have much expectation for the later half. At least FMA Brotherhood and HunterxHunter kind of have the same problem. weird direction in the beginning part with had a well done adaptation. And then stellar works for the part that wasn't adapted last time.
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
True. I'm still going to stick with this anime to see if it gets better. So far, the only episode of the new shaman king that I hated was the third episode. Episodes 1, 2, and even 4 are heavily rushed, but they do a good enough job of telling the story they need to. Really hope they don't mess up the Tao family arc. Honestly one of my favorites.
@DBZFANX1000
@DBZFANX1000 3 жыл бұрын
@@etheri0n959 To me episode 2 is the best paced. Yoh vs ren ends as it does in the manga and nothing important was skipped... it was very short the old anime makes it more of a fight and better then the manga to be honest. Episode 3 made me uncomfortable since that was 9 chapters in one episode and a lot of stuff had to be shoved in of different stuff happening. Episode 1-4 was actually okay still fast but not to a degree that I think made me upset. So far the best test of time is the second half the old anime ended before the manga. Hiroyuki Takei had the manga kinda end abruptly and only came back to truely give the manga ending 2 years after the old anime ended. That is why how they handle second half is important where it diverges somethings are similair somethings happen at different times and somethings in the old anime is completely non exisistant that should be in from the manga. If they do the second half well as the manga and follow it I will forgive this. Because storywise the second half is better in the manga then the anime so. The first half isn't really that much about the true plot of all stuff anyway.
@Phoenixillusion18
@Phoenixillusion18 3 жыл бұрын
Jun's plan might have been simple intimidation, because fear is a strong weapon if it works out. Also it's stated this remake will stay much true to the manga then the OG one witch made a lot of changes. Even if you watch the fight with Horohoro , they fought like strangers (same as in the manga) while in OG version they had a filler episode before where they became friends ... probabily to make the fight more tensioned.
@NorthernWind_Vlll
@NorthernWind_Vlll 3 жыл бұрын
So much hate in the comments here for the new sk, I read the manga and I don't see any reason as to why would I compare them, with 52 scheduled episodes I'll judge the anime for what it DOES present, not for what it DOESN'T. And for now I see that the voice cast is perfect, colors used for characters, background shots, eyes and etc are really good, it's very appealing to look at, it's got a very nice vibe to it, as for the first 5 episodes, I think they did a pretty great job at trimming the manga content so that they can save room for better arcs down the road. It's a good enough of an anime, doesn't suck, it's not garbage by any means, it's rushing, but for a new fan it feel like this is the story, they have no idea of what's really going on compared to the manga. And I have spoken with a few of anime only's... They are delighted by some episodes... So... I will not complain, it's easy to hate on something, try picking up the good stuff by yourself and focusing on that, if it works and makes the show enjoyable for you, just go on and watch it, don't give a damn about what others say,
@josemariamoran6656
@josemariamoran6656 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, you SHOULD look at what came before, that's the whole point of a remake. A remake happens when you make something for a second time with the intention of adding to the original material, not subtracting. I agree that by the end of the season the new anime might have actually achieved this, but this video judges the first 3 episodes, in wich it clearly fails to add anything of value and rather cuts really cool stuff. Yes you can watch the new anime in a vacuum, but that defeats the purpose of making a remake.
@NorthernWind_Vlll
@NorthernWind_Vlll 3 жыл бұрын
@@josemariamoran6656 yeah, you're right, but it's declared it will have 52 episodes, therefore we should be accepting the fact that they won't cover the things that aren't as important. The previous anime added so many filler moments and episodes to the story that it kunda killed its pacing later on.
@josemariamoran6656
@josemariamoran6656 3 жыл бұрын
@@NorthernWind_Vlll I hope they don't, I was really looking forward to SK2021, so I hope it ends up being sick. I love the manga so much.
@josemariamoran6656
@josemariamoran6656 3 жыл бұрын
@Lenz C I have read the manga, and I know the first anime diverges from it, but I actually liked the original anime. I am definately biased because it was one of my favorites when I was young and I still find it very funny. One thing I definately praise about it is the visual difelity to the manga. The content is not the same but love the original artstyle, and the original anime is extremely faithfull.
@Thesilentvoice...
@Thesilentvoice... 3 жыл бұрын
The pacing does feel off even though the new version sticks to the manga. Many moments to showcase manta, yoh and amidamaru relationships are missed in the first 4 episodes. The later episodes are getting better with pacing though but I feel this is to do with he low episode count that’s confirmed. If it was 100 episodes we would get more in each scenes, I wouldn’t have mind seeing the moments with the painter spirit or when yoh saved those kids from a fire. It would help new fans get to see him and mantas friendship a bit more at the start. The direction of some scenes isn’t done with life in the 2021 version, it’s just done but it’s fast.
@beosti3153
@beosti3153 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree, as a gianormous shaman king fan the adaptation up until now is simply garbage to me. Revealing Hao, his family, spirit and where he comes from and that he's the brother of Yoh in episode 1 made me think it's awful. We knew all that info like 200 chapters in. Everything is rushed, the op is ok. Style of art is mhe to me. "yes but they only have 50 episodes" I don't give a shit, do the manga well or don't do it period. The only shaman king fans protecting this anime are the ones that simply don't wanna say it's bad because we haven't gotten new shaman king material for so long and everybody prayed to God it's good. Don't get me wrong the beginning IS slow. It is by far my least favorite part of the whole manga. But butchering it so hard? Revealing a character that's anticipated in the manga over 200 chapters like that? I don't care it's the most boring part you can rush it but not like that come on man. Tf are they gonna do next? America arc in 2 episodes?
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, so true.
@Zwei-II
@Zwei-II 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair introducing Yoh's brother at the beginning doesn't seem bad to me, it gives the series a hook up to it, the bad thing is that the rest of the show is being rushed
@Minohorse
@Minohorse 3 жыл бұрын
Ho boi, kinda wanna see your thought about episode 7.
@NoahGarcia
@NoahGarcia 2 жыл бұрын
You got it right how rush d everything feels. I started watching and each episode felt like a blur, that didn't give anything time to breath 😞
@dj-yf9jg
@dj-yf9jg 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, as much as I enjoy 2021 Shaman King so far, at times, it does seem PRETTY rushed!
@edbertextreme
@edbertextreme 2 жыл бұрын
Currently the pace is fine, they make Chocolove backstory 10 minutes which is not rush at all
@jobsidian4219
@jobsidian4219 2 жыл бұрын
@@edbertextreme same
@ghanilawal6798
@ghanilawal6798 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said in this video, the art style is cleaner and more vibrant in the newer one so I appreciate that but when it comes the pretty much everything else Shaman King 2021 is worse than the original
@pixelmasterkiragaming
@pixelmasterkiragaming 3 жыл бұрын
Dude it’s not even on Netflix yet how you watch it?
@michaeldean2877
@michaeldean2877 3 жыл бұрын
Pirate
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
I can neither confirm nor deny.
@ShigatsuSan
@ShigatsuSan 3 жыл бұрын
I love Shaman King, grew up with it. Rereading the manga and watching the new 2021, and yeah I really agree with what you are saying. I feel kinda robbed of the potential. But then again I really feel like they are Targeting an audience who already knows the story that needs no context ( which sucks for new viewers) I think they are trying to rush the first half along to better story tell where the story deviates from the first anime.
@Hdx64
@Hdx64 3 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with the video. The jump from "Anna is killing me with all this training to... And we came to see a movie to relax" was non sensical to say at least. Now sadly I must play devil's advocate here. The new 2021 version is following the manga closer than the 2001 version and (once again) sadly, the amount of writing in shaman king manga is staggering! The man wrote whole essays in speech bubbles, so I do see a need to speed up the plot a little. The 2021 version has also made some compromises as the old anime did with Yoh's outfit. For most of the beginning Yoh's outfit was just his school shirt, jacket and pants, while both versions gave him the open shirt and necklace which would've banned on a school on sight, also both versions had to follow the stupid trope of "there are pipes laying everywhere in Japan, deal with it" so yeah, since the source material is that bloated and disconnected is hard to do a good adaptation. And for that I have to commend more the old anime for at least trying to add a little flourish like Silva's Totem pole canon. They did a freaking transformation sequence based on a drawing on a bonus page 15 chapters later... Thats's dedication right there. I hope this gets better after ep 5 where shit should be hitting the proverbial fan. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk, lol
@marmik961
@marmik961 2 жыл бұрын
Shaman King 2021 biggest problem is that even though it's pretty accurate to the manga it cuts a LOT of corners. Hopefully the rest of the show will slow down and properly flesh out the plot and characters.
@ThePathtoGreatness5
@ThePathtoGreatness5 3 жыл бұрын
Did SK got better already? Let me know when it gets better
@sebastianc1110
@sebastianc1110 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the 2021 SK anime has been really good in recent episodes.
@franbowstherapycenter9319
@franbowstherapycenter9319 3 жыл бұрын
They really changed the art style, personally I never really like anime from the old times, but this one was enjoyable because of the plot, characters, and art style... now that they changed it a little, it kind of just doesn't have the same enjoyable vibe now :(
@captchoco3035
@captchoco3035 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah lost it's charm for this shiny new coating :(
@nikolaspasic5759
@nikolaspasic5759 3 жыл бұрын
I actually find it more in line with the manga than the old one
@captchoco3035
@captchoco3035 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikolaspasic5759 oh geeez.. it's based on the manga- well kudos they did what they could following the source material
@nooneimportant4961
@nooneimportant4961 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, the episode with Faust was so bad... again. This is ridiculous lol.
@Goondius
@Goondius 3 жыл бұрын
This shouldn't have that many downvotes. It just states everything that is wrong and is backed up with examples. Sure people can go around and cry abouthow it's faithful to the manga, or "still like it because they read the manga and know more", but in a vacuum this is just a mess.
@yoh8238
@yoh8238 3 жыл бұрын
Should've been another studio picking it up tbh, the only thing that they're doing good is the art style and music imo.
@ChristianGomez-ep5gi
@ChristianGomez-ep5gi 2 жыл бұрын
The Original is 100 times better, the voices in the original was on point. The new shaman king is garbage
@arcnova
@arcnova 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO the new shamn king is WAY better than the original, the 13th episode of 2021 alone is better than any and every episode of the 2001 version
@akachiubani-ebere9497
@akachiubani-ebere9497 2 жыл бұрын
The old one is overrated as hell. The pacing in the new one is fine, it's has the same pacing as the manga. It is just that the pacing in the original is so slow that it makes the new one look like the speed of light. Tons of extra bullshit, stretch out episodes and fights. The characters in the new one make more sens than the old. New one is better in every way. The only argument yall have is pacing. But hey, I hope u enjoy that old garbage of a show.
@AhtmiaFuraha4370
@AhtmiaFuraha4370 3 жыл бұрын
I thought his name was morty not manta. Sorry im confused now
@Wolfsurfs
@Wolfsurfs 3 жыл бұрын
The og had much more personality than the new one ngl, It’s 5:15 and I’m cruising down the road I got the 2021 and now i hate this show
@jarvisstart4159
@jarvisstart4159 2 жыл бұрын
That Pokemon battle reference was spot on. 👍 . I just found it weird that yoh will convince pyron to not take his revenge on someone who murdered him to control his spirit . And then pyron wants to be with her . That's absurd
@karlijackson8580
@karlijackson8580 2 жыл бұрын
Who ended up becoming shaman king though?
@dominicmallano5633
@dominicmallano5633 3 жыл бұрын
Are they trying to adapt 285 chapters into 52 episodes?
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, from what I can tell.
@na-rocky5671
@na-rocky5671 2 жыл бұрын
Should I watch the old one then the new one or just the new one?
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 2 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend old one first
@na-rocky5671
@na-rocky5671 2 жыл бұрын
@@etheri0n959 ok thank you
@killeryago97
@killeryago97 3 жыл бұрын
The early part being rushed was a quite obvious thing to expect when the remake has 52 eps to cover 300 chapters while the old one had 64 and at best, got close to 150 chapters + terrible filler. We're reaching the trip to America in episode 12/13, which will likely be a first batch of eps on Netflix, then I guess they will stick with 4/5 chapters. Dunno how someone could prefer the old anime ending, unless they never read the Kanzenban, but that's another story.
@blaseroque6479
@blaseroque6479 3 жыл бұрын
I do like the new anime, but it feels very very rushed, and a lot of key events are left out and if you haven’t read the manga, I could see some being lost. For example in this episode, manta just ends up getting ryus sword. I wish they showed the struggle that manta went thru in order to get ryus sword. It really erases a lot of character development for manta. A lot of the characters just feel very bland. Not to mention, the fights do look sloppily edited
@cappedminer369
@cappedminer369 2 жыл бұрын
Btw maybe you can review the manga and compare it to the series ? Or maybe just compare it to the shaman king 2021 series ?
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 2 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda doing that right now, though I haven't been reading the manga recently.
@HelloOnepiece
@HelloOnepiece 3 жыл бұрын
The moment they announced it will be only 52 episodes i was obvious there will be pacing issues
@amirholmes3227
@amirholmes3227 2 жыл бұрын
How did you watch the original
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 2 жыл бұрын
The only way right now is pirating.
@black-zz4er
@black-zz4er 2 жыл бұрын
@@etheri0n959 gandhara
@TheEvilAuthoress
@TheEvilAuthoress 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. This pretty much my summarizes my issues with the show so far. SK 2021 was not made for new fans at all. I'm watching it with a friend I only recently got to watch the original, and even she's going, "I'd have no clue what was going on if I hadn't seen the other version." SK 2021 is a faithful speedrun adaptation, and neither of those are actually a good thing. (There is so much cringe in the original writing - Ryu and Anna, Ponchi and Conchi, Anna in general, the "romance", etc.)
@marcwilliamraodobson7042
@marcwilliamraodobson7042 2 жыл бұрын
You should check out the current episodes. They wouldn't disappoint you because they added some new twist to the series.
@opeyemiakande4135
@opeyemiakande4135 3 жыл бұрын
I was a die hard shaman king fan. Watched 10mins of the first episode of the new one and I turned it off 😪😪 did not feel the same
@edbertextreme
@edbertextreme 2 жыл бұрын
Because it is different, this 100% follow the manga. If u watch episode 13 then it will show how it's different to the old one
@elijahofthecrows
@elijahofthecrows 3 жыл бұрын
If it's like there's just trying to go for the manga exclusive stuff as fast as possible for the reboot
@theBabyDead
@theBabyDead 2 жыл бұрын
I just started watching as it came to Netflix in my country, without realizing there even was a remake. I was just like "huh?".... Cause I was missing so many scenes. I didn't realize it was a remake until I literally googled "Is the Netflix Shaman King different?" which led me to this video lol. I'm so ashamed for not noticing this sooner. I thought Netflix just cut out a lot of things, but I did notice the fights went very differently from how I felt they were going and happened especially quickly. I seem to, for example, remember a wounded Yoh fighting a Toa Ren with curtain rods from the hospital or something, which literally just never happened here. So confused.
@cpsilva1922
@cpsilva1922 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve grow up watching shaman king and that episode was one of my favourites it’s a shame what they did with my childhood memories
@Thesilentvoice...
@Thesilentvoice... 3 жыл бұрын
I can say I can’t disagree. Even though it’s rushed it’s still promising but the potential is always missed with shaman king. The first anime didn’t get the attention it deserves and it’s soo good even though it’s not canon. When the remake got announced I thought the series would get a proper adaptation, but many chapters are missing and touching moments because of the short 52 episode span. I think studio mappa or bones should have animated this, at least then the show would get better animation for the fight scenes and possibly more episodes because those studios have the money. Also with it being on Netflix really took away from the attention it could have got. Many reactors aren’t watching it or anime fans because it’s not getting a sub and dub release on a great streaming service. That ruined the hype and only fans who truly like this series like me are staying around, but it hurts to see that shaman king just never gets it right or misses a opportunity to get noticed. If I was the mangaka I would have made sure this project got what it deserved, but I guess he focuses more on nostalgia and for the fans. I’m just a bit sad because shaman king deserves more from the anime community and never gets that. I hope the manga material we didn’t get in the old anime is done well in this version.
@etheri0n959
@etheri0n959 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, real shame about the whole Netflix situation. If the animation was good, I think there would be more to it as well. Thanks for watching and writing this comment.
@z-dub7386
@z-dub7386 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a manga only for shaman king but it sucks that they are rushing the true story of Shaman king. Also how Anna acted in the 2021 anime is how she acted in the manga it's just that the manga justifiably explained her actions better.
@chuflesthecat
@chuflesthecat 2 жыл бұрын
the same happened with hunter x hunter and full metal alchemist, the older versions get into more details and they are not rushed.
@akai3974
@akai3974 2 жыл бұрын
I wish shaman king had that same threat ment the animation was good on both of those too shaman kings animation is not bad at times but sometimes it’s ba d
@richieos
@richieos 3 жыл бұрын
My hope for this series is that they must be rushing through the prologue arc only to adapt the manga from where the original anime started deviating, which is almost the second they get to America and happens on volume 9 out of 35 of the manga. FMA: Brotherhood had the same problem of adapting the material from almost half of the 2003 version in only 10 episodes (11 if you count the first episode of Brotherhood)
@Woodsaras
@Woodsaras 8 ай бұрын
And thats some dmb hope and excuse. If you wanna continue the story fromwhere it left off, continue. Shiting out shty episodes is not a way to go. Just shows how fkng inadequate and amateur these people are.
@UltravioletArts
@UltravioletArts 3 жыл бұрын
6 episodes in now, I had such high hopes for my favourite anime growing up, and it is just so trash
@KajinDMV
@KajinDMV 2 жыл бұрын
This review is on par with my suspicions. So Netflix along with most mainstream media companies have been pumping out not only reboots, but prioritizing politics over quality content. I say to myself, “but anime is still untouched.. Right?” Then I see Shaman King return along with Toonami announcing they won’t have the license to JoJo’s Bizarre Adventures anymore, because Netflix has it. I started the first episode and it’s dry. Not like I remembered the original. I find your video and it’s aligns with what I was thinking unfortunately. I didn’t even go back to the old series to confirm and could just tell. My bad for the essay.
@mikethepokemaster2012
@mikethepokemaster2012 2 жыл бұрын
Netflix only license the anime no part im it production
@sloanebenoit1660
@sloanebenoit1660 2 жыл бұрын
What does bad pacing have to do with politics 💀
@KajinDMV
@KajinDMV 2 жыл бұрын
@@sloanebenoit1660 politics meaning hiring people who aren’t right for a series but favorited for other reasons. Small nuanced changes In character traits and development change character dynamic altogether. That can alter the complexion of a series and it’s themes.
@celiabaradhi7686
@celiabaradhi7686 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just hoping manta will become a shaman cause he is my favorite character. Because I like the parallels between mosuke , amidamaru ,and yoh and manta. Like the bond between all of them is outstanding. In the 2001 version of shaman king ,When manta got taken over by mosuke by some deity, it tested the bond of friendship between yoh and manta and manta didn’t want to hurt his friend yoh so he changed the hammer medium into the laptop. Which is pretty awesome 👏. Manta bond with yoh is so strong that is broke the controlling seal over mosuke. Honestly I hope they do that. I really like shaman king and I just want the test of true bonds and see how far they will go. Because it’s not the some of are parts, it’s the sum of our hearts ♥️. The 2001 version had more story depth is what the 2021 version doesn’t have. so far i say the 2001 version is best because it’s a chill and there is a special element of surprise and action that I like. That what I have to say so far. Honestly both version have their unique spice to it and itself comes with surprisingly good or bad stuff.
@jasonjamesb6038
@jasonjamesb6038 2 жыл бұрын
Shaman King is a Legardary Manga/Animation from Shonen Jump...it's up there with Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Death note, Yu gi oh, Deagon Ball Z etc. The creator of this Manga even collaboratied with Stan Lee/Marvel Comices(Ultimo)
@Ishaan2122
@Ishaan2122 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh idk about that man, it was pretty good but personally i wouldn't put it up there. but if u enjoyed it that much then i respect ur opinion
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