lol i mean to even suggest that Chris is in some way not 100% responsible, is egregious. Evaluating Shannan is fine, but irrelevant to who is guilty and by what percentage. I mean come on, give me a break, there isnt even a 0.0000001% chance NOR any evidence that Shannan might have done what Chris said

No way in hell I’d stay with someone who screwed up my finances and had their phone ping when I used my card!!!!

The haunting part of this case is Shannan’s blind spot. She lacked awareness about reality. She was an idealist, perfectionist and was addicted to attention and looking good. Sadly this addiction clouded her judgment.

Her obsession with Facebook was too much. Nobody wants to be filmed all day long

I don’t understand why some people feel like it’s a sin or something to call someone out after their death. Yes, she and the kids were murdered, and I do not at all condone that. But to put her on a pedestal and act like she was some blameless saint just because she was murdered is just as wrong. Someone can get murdered and still have been a bitch in life.

The irony of all those times, when she kept saying in fb videos, "chris is thriving" "we are thriving", thriving, thriving, all day, and in fact all their existance was like a sand castle, and nobody was even close to thrive. She seems histrionic to me too.

My friends daughter is constantly posting all of her life on FB. I think it means something is lacking in your life

I had a friend like Shanann, always big groups of people around her, I am more of a quiet person and someone who likes to have the company of one or two friends, but this friend of mine drove me crazy, always on the phone, distracted, self-promoting, insatiable need to be liked, hordes of people around her, it was very strange -when I did catch her alone, she seemed very uneasy like she had to unload her list of recent accomplishments upon me. Anyhow, she’s older now, like almost 60 and she just completely burned herself out. I honestly don’t know where she is or what she’s doing. It’s so much work to be with a person like that. There is absolutely NO excuse for killing another human being but I see videos of Chris Watts talking and he is like the complete and polar opposite of what Shanann was. It can be so difficult for an introverted person to be around someone who is highly emotional and “on” all the time.

Jordan I appreciate you incite but I'm not sure if shanann had that many followers for her vids before she was murdered. It's been reported that people would unfollow her on fb because she was so annoying and posting nonstop.

I personally know for a fact she hired cleaning companies to clean her house or made Chris clean and care for the kids. Plus her extreme with babywise

My home is my sanctuary -- when I walk in, I expect an amount of privacy that I don't expect when I walk outside the door. My family is entitled to feel the same way. Some people say live social media is the "norm," and maybe that's true for you. But how hard is it to ask your family how they feel about being livestreamed to the world before you turn on the camera? It's easy to see that their girls were being raised that they cannot expect any privacy no matter where they were, and what's more, they were taught they had no power to create their own personal boundaries, even when their mother was being cruel to them -- and their father went along with it. The whole family's lives were one big social media show that SW directed, and nobody had a choice but to deal with it or face negative consequences. Breaks my heart. I like this video. Sometimes the truth is painful, but it's still the truth.

Three monsters lived in that house SW, Chris and the MLM company. Poor babies, especially Bella the way SW treated her was irredeemable. Chris deserves to rot in a cell, however, his attorneys could have probably mounted a viable temporary insanity defense. Living with SW and that unrelenting MLM and her phone recording every second of the staged day. So sad.

I think her story about how she tried to ''push him away'' when they first started dating was an exaggeration or a lie

Working in a MLM is like being in a cult. I speak from experience. I am not as driven as Shannan was so never fell into it as hard as she did.

I saw a video that was filmed on Christmas Eve. Chris dressed up as Santa Claus. Neither one of the little girls wanted to go into the front room and see Santa and get a gift. The littlest one was screaming her head off. Bella, was saying she didn't want to go. Neither one of the little girls wanted to open a gift. Even with Cee Cee screaming, Shanann continued to take video. So bizarre to me that she would take video of that! She made them go into the front room of the house. Bella was near tears. She was told to open her gift. She was quite unhappy and whining. Cee Cee had been bawling. They didn't seem happy with the water bottles or slippers they got. It made me thing something was going on in that house. I have never seen children so unhappy on Christmas. Why? What happened when the camera was not on? Other videos, it seemed like she told the little girls to act a certain way and say things she told them to. Like when she announced her pregnancy. She had the little girls say, "Yay!" It seemed so forced - like they were acting for the camera. When Chris came in and she told him she was pregnant he seemed to be acting. He said, "That's awesome". It seemed SO FAKE!!

You said she wasn’t grandiose but I have to disagree with you. Her whole life is grandiose. Her house, her luxury car (both of which were way over their heads) the way she bragged about Kant people think she had the best husband in the world. She was 100% grandiose with her down line that is a fact.

Shanann was a typical Histrionic. Very jealous of Jamies kids and the attention they got from grandparents. Im sure she did flirt, alot and dress provocatively on her Thrive getways. Always tons of makeup too. She was very aware of her appearance claiming "im a hot mess, dont mind me". Not a statement needed. She was very shallow in her Thrive schpiels using one or two words only to explain products. "Super excited, amazing" but with little emotion while saying these things repeatedly. And she made a big deal of how close she was with her friends. Facebook give notice of birthdays and because she got lots of messages, it doesn't mean those people adore you, but she thought so. One "friend"in a documentary thought Chris Miller was her husband! And Nicole Atkinson and her were not as besty friends as they appeared. These "close friends " were more aquaintances through her MLMs. Flying off the handle as seen in Nutgate, one great example of her exaggerated emotions. I would definitely place SW in the category of Hystionic with a ton of magical thinking. Life was going down hill fast for her and she wasnt even in tune with the disaster that lay ahead. Murder or not.

Jordan, I really respect you for taking a look at the traits of Shanann. Thanks for your presentation. There's a lot of people who think that a murder victim shouldn't be discussed. I think it's important to get some light on situations that are similar, and maybe they can get some help before another tragedy happens.❤.

Who could live thier whole life on camera...he should have left ...

I have checked the tax returns. She never made money at those MLM's and she was in dozens of them.

It is insane to me that just bc someone is dead you have to regard them as a saint. She absolutely DID NOT deserve to be murdered. Absolutely not. And Chris watts is at fault. Did shanaan have some issues? Obvi yes.

Bravo!! I lived in Watts Island for a couple years (name given to those of us who were obsessed over this case) and I can tell you that Chris Watts had ASPERGER SYNDROME. If you take a deep dive and go back over his ENTIRE life you will find a very clear picture of a man on the high functioning spectrum. Social awkwardness, shy, quiet, highly intelligent, obsessive tendencies, lack of GENUINE emotional attachment, lack of empathy, poor communication skills, etc. The FBI stated several times that Chris Watts DID NOT fit any of their normal profiles, so no, he is not a psychopath, sociopath or narcissist. He doesn’t fit ANY of those. I have been screaming this since the case started, and most ppl called me crazy. Then little by little as Chris just didn’t fit the narrative some were laying out…….I did have MANY who finally came to my corner. In fact, the family has felt for a couple or so years now that Chris has Asperger Syndrome. The rest of your analysis on Shannan Watts is SPOT ON! It’s very hard to present this truth because you get called a victim basher and they just don’t realize that in reality……dead people don’t automatically become saints. So BRAVO on a job WELL DONE!!

Some women should simply not have children.

I don't believe she had friends I believe SW had people who were on her up and down lines ( her job in MLM ).

She was not only demeaning to CW and the kids she was also cruel to Dieter she put him in a shirt sleeve and filmed him struggling to get out Damn animal abuser..🤬

Her reaction to Chris' affair seems realistic in that she is pregnant with 2 kids and your source of financial support is about ready to disappear....

SW definitely drew attention to her appearance. "don't mind me I'm a hot mess" 'I don't care how I look" these are things women say when they are trying to draw attention or compliments from men or women. You better count that trait in.

She also displayed Munchausen by Proxy patterns

I am SO HAPPY you made this video, Jordan. People automatically think just because she was horrifically murdered she was perfect in life and Chris is a monster.

The first couple of minutes of this video mischaracterizes why people suspected Chris Watts. The problem with his behavior wasn't that he seemed to be hiding something. Rather, it was that he showed zero concern for the people that he claimed to be missing. It was stark obvious from his body language and behavior that he didn't give a crap at all about his wife and kid's being gone (dead). That is the point. It's not about "hiding something", though it was also partially that as well. In fact, Watts doesn't even come across in the aftemath videos as someone who is possibly in a state of shock or trauma. There was absolutely nothing even remotely indicative of trauma in his demeanour. He just seemed like a guy who was happy and relieved but trying not to show it. He radiated a pleasant and sarcastic mood that was utterly incongruous with his overt claims or even his phony initial confession.

Jordan, my friend, I have watched most of your videos w/o commenting. Your analysis of this case, specifically Shannon, is what everyone needs to hear. You do a phenomenal job with this case that I've admired from afar! Thank you for sharing, dude.

Shannon was a control freak, horrible, treated Chris like garbage,she pushed and pushed him until the point of no return, until he couldn't take it anymore and he ended up treating her like garbage for a change!

She was vain. Always taking pictures of herself. I think because she was so insecure with herself, she felt the need to be validated by people commenting on her pics/posts.

I’m wondering what you think of Shanann and her having Munchausen/Munchausen by proxy? I’d love to have your take on it. She was CONSTANTLY subjecting both her girls and herself to different physicians for a large variety of health issues because she would doctor shop if the girls weren’t diagnosed with what she thought was their problem. She even said openly she would take the girls doctor to doctor until she got the diagnosis she wants. She also subjected the girls to unnecessary ER visits, as well as unnecessary thyroid blood tests in what she suggested was an attempt to figure out why the girls had such thin hair. Also, in the autopsy Shanann had not one of the conditions she claimed to have had. No lupus, endometriosis, gestational diabetes, none of it. As far as her not having NPD, I respectfully disagree with your assessment of her not being grandiose. She asserted her grandiosity over Chris and Chris alone because she could. She knew he would take it with no backlash from him. She demeaned him and insulted his intelligence publicly. She wouldn’t allow him to manage his own money because she thought he was too stupid and she was better but in reality it was to keep it a secret. She wouldn’t let him see his family because they could never do anything right, she was safer, smarter, and a better parent than any of them. She was wholly self serving and that in itself makes her way of thinking grandiose. In addition to that, her MLM affiliations appear to show a degree of grandiosity too. Many of the women “under” her within the company are simply not comparable in physical appearance and/or socioeconomic status, at least on its surface. For example, Nichole Adkinson, the friend that alerted police. MLMs historically target women in vulnerable situations. Struggling single mothers, young college students, single women, women unhappy in their career…people of that nature. In order to target someone one sees as vulnerable, there has to be a level of grandiosity there. Shanann targeted women that wanted to look and live like her. Shanann was not a good person at all. I’m not going to give the blanket disclaimer about blaming anyone other than Chris here either. For 3.5 years anyone emotionally invested in this case has wanted to know why, and Shanann is the why. It’s not her fault but she is solely the reason he did what he did. They had deep rooted marital problems and he hated her because she was who she was and he was who he was. Then the idiot thought he was in love after 8 weeks and snapped because he hated living in his marriage. My personal opinion is that he killed the girls because they walked in on him. Unfortunately, he’s a liar and/or only has the capacity to tell people what he thinks they want to hear versus the truth.

I think you open yourself up to being judged when you have a public online presence

Wow... thank you for this. Society acts like objective analysis of a victim is equivalent to murdering them again. This case both fascinates and horrifies me because I, too, believe I have histrionic personality disorder that has become more manageable as I have aged. I am very happily married now, but it is my FOURTH marriage. Any of the other three marriages could have ended like the Watts marriage, and I feel blessed beyond measure that I never quite pushed any husband that far.

I keep saying this. Parents need to learn and education on personality disorders should be part of school curriculum for students and for parents. People do not know that this is so prevalent in people. There wasn't allot of education and information on this for the boomer generation, nor gen X. But for Millennials and Gen Z, there is finally a ton of education and information on Personality Disorders.

There’s videos of her kids trying not to puke while she forced them to pretend they like those absolutely disgusting bone dry nasty food bars she made everyone eat. Poor Bella was almost to the point of puking and even tried to hide and spit it out while she made them pretend they liked it. It made me sick to watch it

I think she was a control freak and she emotionally abused her husband and her children. I wish he would have just left and not murdered his wife and children.

SW was a narc and 100% had MBP

MBP is what my understanding of her. She was abusive to both the girls and CW, he got sick of the charade, met NK, and his eyes opened up that there was a different lifestyle out there. He crawled out from under her thumb.

To be honest, I could not have spent 15 minutes ALONE with Shannon or Chris even if I was paid to do it... Same thing with Chris unbearable mom...

She was a hustler in North Carolina and ran some scams and was charged and a Changed her name twice and cheated on her first husband.

I really look forward to all your commentary!! Thank you

Thank you for this video. I wish more people watched this with open mind

I found all of Shananne's social media videos interacting with the children or Chris uncomfortable and cringy to watch. I understand now after hearing your explanation it was because Shananne demonstrated the personality trait 'empathy impairment'.

i saw a youtube say she had no lupus at autopsy does anyone know the truth

She spent money they didn't have everyday ,had a job that actually cost money

She had “money sex power” written on her timeline with a photo of her in her infamous leopard dress. I find that interesting.

Chris admitted he killed his daughters...Stop spreading lies about not knowing who killed them.

“First of all……how dare I?!?” Love it already 🤣🤣🤣 I feel like I could put the statement before most conversations I start

You are absolutely the best on Internet to explain this crime! It make sense what you are saying, nothing else does!

When I first started watching KZfaq in April 2019 the Chris Watts case was the very first thing I watched. This is because I started on a site called Documentary Heaven where I picked True Crime as the genre I wanted to watch and the Documentary called "Missing" was what I watched, which was the Chris Watts case. I then spent 2 full years following the case and NOTHING else on KZfaq for that time. I know the case inside out. I have always wanted to know more about Shan'ann and there really hasn't been much out there apart from her own home videos she posted on Facebook. I really enjoy fresh information on the case. Thank you!

I'm so glad someone is telling the real story

I went to high school with her. She had no friends simply because she thought she was better than everyone. Very privledged. She was the type that would talk shit about anyone and everyone.

We do know who killed the children. Chris did. He described it in detail.

Thank you. Some honest intelligent commentary

She acted more like a mean older teenage sister than a mother towards those girls. I don't understand why she wanted to have kids since they annoyed her

CW should have been the one getting notifications every time SW spent money especially since it was HIS paycheck that was contributing to that account while her MLM and her overspending was sucking it dry

The Recovering Hunbot on You Tube did an amazing job explaining Shanann's involvement with Thrive. It a two part series, but it goes into 3 other episodes going into the MLM/Thrive behavior. Great job. I recommend those episode from her.

I have seen Shannan's videos and I did not like how conceited she was behind that smile. Even worse, the way she controls her daughters was not nice at all... She was very neurotic, so that explains she had a perfect match with Chris...for a few years..m

I have had a narcissist in the family and I recognize it

Great analysis. I can’t wait to dive into your other videos!

She told different people different things

It's good to examine things honestly. Thank you sir

Giant house they couldn't afford

Chris 100% killed them all. I agree that Shanann had some major issues. But I’m sorry if he really watched her kill those girls then no way would any father then do to them what he did to their little bodies! No way! He blamed Shanann after Tammy Lee gave him that idea. He is a POS who deserves to rot in prison. I also don’t think that anyone but him was involved. I think in his twisted head he thought this is what his mistress wanted. I in no way think she was involved or anyone else. Some creators say his coworkers helped. They blame everyone but chris. Shanann was a bully to Chris but he was also weak. She was a narcissist and living a lie. But kill her girls? Nope.

Could I ask what your qualifications are.?

I think she had a touch of a fictitious disorder. Surgery, medicines, etc etc. at autopsy no signs of any of the claims. What happened was unspeakable but I wish people would be honest. This didn’t happen in a vacuum.

Thank you for making this video. Subbed.

Shannan’s had plenty of MLM friends and it doesn’t mean she had a lot of personal friends prior to joining the company . I think she wasn’t good at managing money .she appears to have a dominating personality and things have to go her way . She never deserve to die though , especially her daughters . RIP

I really enjoyed your analysis. There was though an instance of physical abuse by Shannon towards Chris. Early in the relationship she didn’t get her way she put hands on him pushed & shoved him out the front door, locked him out & made him stay outside all night in the cold without a coat. Shannon said he learned after that.

Where have you been? Your insights have been greatly needed in the discussion of this case. Much over due! Thank you so much. I have enjoyed your videos tremendously. Low on emotion, high on facts.

SW commented many times about she herself being the fiery one and chalked it up to her Italian heritage. While CW was go with the flow. He upset her once, and she put him out of the house for the night. He did his best to never put himself there again. At all costs.

Smart dude....I like him...I just subbed. Looking forward to watching more.

Yay a new video. Thanks Jordan

What happened it’s terrible and sad. It no matter what she did or not. That was a very horrible relationship and he should of had left her, but who knows what was in both of their minds:

KZfaqr " Autopsia" did an in-depth analysis on SW and Munchausen by proxy. He provides sources. Documentation and SW own posts. I was hoping you could take a look at that evidence and tell us what you think

Shanann pushed Chris away, at first, because she didn’t like the way he looked on Facebook. Notice how she quickly engulfed him when he reflected her self love back to her and was able to meet her needs. She was very quickly hyper focused on his family and elevated them to demons, when they were the most ordinary of people. My opinion on Chris’s feelings towards her, I think she spent the early relationship and marriage trying to force him to feel more towards her than he did. She was his ‘favourite person’ until she wasn’t.

My opinion is that CW wasn’t very experienced with the opposite sex. When he got together with SW, he was punching well above his waist. “Look at me. I’m capable of bagging a looker”. She liked him because when she wanted him to jump, his response was “how high”. I’m sure his earning capabilities were a major attraction for SW too. He was tied to his life through debt and fear of the unknown. SW stepped up her controlling behaviour of CW when he started to lose weight. She couldn’t control other women showing him interest. Most married men stray because they want something that they aren’t getting at home. Tenderness and real affection. He was comfortable lying to SW and NK because let’s face it, his home life was a living lie. False, awkward smiles for Facebook. Forced family activities. Everything they did together felt unnatural. As for SW and her supposed health issues. I have no time for sympathy seekers. I haven’t been able to hug my Lupus suffering friend for nearly 3 years due to Covid. Hearing SW spew her lies about the condition really boils my piss.

Brilliant analysis. Well done!

IMO NA was SW carer. That is why NA could get information about SW from the Dr's. Yes I believe SW was seriously mental ill and needed a carer.

MLM's perfect for low level grifters so you see why SW fit in them perfectly.

This is a brave and accurate analysis.

Am I the only who watched the cops feed Chris the story that Shanann hurt the kids, so he hurt her. He took the ridiculous story and ran with it. Can’t believe anyone thinks he didn’t murder the girls and shove them into oil tanks.

I noticed that in some of her videos she seemed to like Cece's outgoing and loud personality much more then her older dougther, Bella's calm and caucious behavior. It was a bit sad when she compared them and she was openly much more proud of the smaller kid.

44:56 - That's actually a common misconception on my part. Diabetes is basically an HVAC thermostat that doesn't work. You turn it on heat and it stays on heat until you realize it's 90 degrees inside, so you turn it onto cool. Then a few hours later, you realize it's 55 degrees inside so you flip it back to heat. The medication lowers blood sugar, sugary foods/carbs raise blood sugar. Diabetes means you have to manually control the levels with those tools. You can't set it to auto-regulate. So I guess technically, what I said in the video is correct, but the idea behind it was false. Because most people think that diabetes means your blood sugar levels are too low without medication. It's actually usually the opposite. Needing extra sugar is usually a result of overmedicating. Diabetes untreated = super high blood sugar all the time. Insulin absorbs sugar in the blood stream. That's all probably an oversimplification but it's a lot closer.

She lack d emotional iq when it came to Chris. Always shoving camera in his face and forcing him to perform for the "lifestyle". She related to the phone more than him.

Chris told people that they were house poor. The payments on that house were keeping them living paycheck to paycheck. He said he didn't want the big house.

She suffocated and abused him and their kids completely in life so he snapped. No excuse for what he did but it is what it is and both families and their friends should have stepped up. Textbook toxic co-dependent situation and ALL the people surrounding them let them down by being complacent. I hope those friends and family feel bad for this.

My guy. This is an EXCELLENT analysis!!!! Great work. Wow.

Finally! I've been waiting for someone to have the strength and most importantly the intelligence to back up the analysis to make a video like this! Thank you so much. She obviously didn't deserve to die but no one's perfect and she had an abundance of issues that everyone is uncomfortable talking about. Starting with the fact that she changed her name. That was my first red flag. Thank you again for making this video!

That 500k cash in a suitcase in nc to build her house is dodgy. She worked at dirty South Selly car parts on commission and before that sold mobile phones so I don't think she could earn 500k a year as her family stated i have a friend who is a dr and doesn't earn that a year . She wasn't a nurse either she worked for children's hospital answering the phones and it was from home and just went in every other week. She used a disability badge which makes me angry because she was not disabled. She enrolled in nursing school got the grant then left shortly after . Her whole life was a lie so sad . She woke up every morning and lied from that moment selling crap and fake lifestyle to people who wanted the dream but knowing it was never going to happen but sw did. I could write a book about MLMs. The only people who make it are those who were there to start it . They don't care about the products they just care about the sales . People have this idea that because sw said she was 80k was earning that but in fact thats how much her team made for le.vel and they got a percentage which is pathetic. The lexus isn't free either. Le.vel pay 800 a month towards the car but if you don't reach your rank the next month you lose the 800 and have to pay the lease garage all of the amount. Also when you get paid it doesn't include taxes . The lifestyle getaways are not all free . The hotel and food yes . Flights are not . They sell merchandise for you to buy and you buy them to look like you can afford them. Business trips for le.vel are not paid for they are classed as part of the job . Thats why cw didn't go on all of them because they couldn't afford to both go . Sw went on 2 le.vel business trips a month.

SW had total narcissistic personality traits!!!

Idk… all I know is that she treated her husband like shit… you could see it on camera .. every time he said something she would ignore him or make some sort of cut down remark. Chris was wrong for killing her and the kids but I truly believe he snapped .

Wow, phenomenal video!!!!! You are saying things that have been on my mind for over 4 years!! I commend you for this content, please keep them coming 👍

Have you done research on this case ? Because these a lot that you’ve left out. If you followed it you’d know that the girls weren’t killed in the house.. only SW was. Both or at least 1 of the girls was still alive that morning. It took for the detective’s to rewatch the cctv video & see that atleast one was seen that morning walking up to him and him bend down to pick her up & put her in his truck. Chris later admitted to this when they had a second interview in jail. He later said that’s why he panicked in the body cam footage at the neighbor Nate’s house. He admitted to taking both the girls to the oil site and suffocating them before putting them in the oil rigs. And even his later admissions could be false. The only thing that I consider fact is what was proven with cctv. For you to think SW, a pregnant mother would kill her daughter’s before Chris is bizarre. He had more of an incentive to kill them than she did. There was even a second person seen on the cctv but that was never confirmed by police. I say this because I do believe he had help, but not by SW. To think that you’d clinically diagnose her & not a man who’s decision was to annihilate his entire family to be with another women is concerning. I don’t want to come off rude when I say this, but I think you should diagnose yourself Before others. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion / beliefs but if your studying phycology and diagnosing ppl I don’t think it’s responsible to give a diagnosis on people let alone victims. I am not saying to exclude victims because they’re victims. I’m saying before you diagnose someone be damn sure your not wrong.

YES SHANNAN HAD NO EPITHY FOR BELLA CHRIS SAID SHE IS FRIGHTEN SHANNAN JUST LAUGHED AT CHRIS

Thank you mate. Good video

According to one interview of someone who knew Shannon, she would say things that indicated that she was grandiose and felt better than others. If a ‘friend’ lived in a modest home, as that is what many of us buy in order to live within our means, she would comment negatively to and about that person. It’s clear she believed she was entitled to buy the largest newest home/mansion, within ‘reason.’ She used embezzled Dirty South funds to buy her first mansion and then fled out of state to buy her second mansion, which she couldn’t afford so only chris’ name was listed on the deed! Who pulls that crap but a grandiose personality ?