Nanoleaf Shapes with THREAD - Full Review
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Are the Nanoleaf Shapes worth the cost? We'll cover everything you need to know about these, including how they work in HomeKit and their recent announcement to support Thread!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:11 Nanoleaf & Thread
2:08 About the Shapes
4:08 Unboxing
3:38 Installation Tips
6:48 Specs & Features
8:06 The Controller
8:58 App Setup
9:27 App Features
10:15 HomeKit Touch Actions
12:17 Scenes in HomeKit
12:46 Screen Matching, Music Sync, & Touch
13:28 Skillshare
15:00 Shapes as Thread Border Router
16:18 Are They Worth the Cost?
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@TheBradLloyd 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, Shane! Great intro and good choice to put up a “W” with the Nanoleaf shapes! Loved this and excited to hear more about the whole border router piece.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brad! Appreciate you watching!
@geek2330 3 жыл бұрын
Shane, the triangles are really nice. If just one could hide the power cable and make it seamless somehow...
@sskalin30 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I would never get these because of the ugly power cable. I wonder if battery would be possible one day.
@chefjmbistro 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased the in wall power block and the power cable pops out a single gang passthrough and you cannot see to cable at all. Now this isn't for everyone but definitely worth it.
@geek2330 3 жыл бұрын
@@chefjmbistro can you show a pic? Thanks.
@chefjmbistro 3 жыл бұрын
@@geek2330 ok i took a short video but not familiar how to upload in this thread
@trscsaeg 3 жыл бұрын
@@sskalin30 A lot of people drill a hole and run it behind the wall
@Claudwig_ 3 жыл бұрын
Good video as always Shane, I’ve had these for a while now, I even asked you before about them, but I can tell you that thru Shortcuts you can tie them to your weather and they will show a specific color you choose for the expected weather at a specifics time, so I have red for hot, blue for cold and purple for rain to display at 8am so my fam knows what to expect (I have them set in diamond shape in my living room). I also have a specific theme pop up at sunset so my kids know it’s time to start getting ready for bed. Lastly you can do special theme colors per season, so there is a lot you can do with these, get creative. Thanks Shane, keep these coming.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Love the automations. Great ideas!
@RagingFlash 3 жыл бұрын
On top as always Shane. Keep up these amazing videos and honest reviews! You’re the first go to when I need HomeKit related videos. And in my opinion.. slick,direct,very explained. 👌🏼 thanks for continuing these vids!
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Filipe, thanks so much for the kind words. I appreciate the support!! 🙏🏻
@RagingFlash 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneCreates you’re welcome. If someone deserves the credit it has to be said. Hope your channel grows with the same dedication you put on your videos! See ya on the next one!💪🏼
@tomlawson2330 3 жыл бұрын
Good video Shane, I have just moved house this week and I think they will be a good edition to my home. Thanks for the discount code, much appreciated! 👌🏼
@khaynes4825 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Shane! I hope you like this idea. I have the prior generation of these lights. I originally had 12 of them arranged in a snowflake configuration and mounted directly to the wall but after a year, the triangles began to come loose because the drywall underneath is slightly porous. So, I took it down for fear it would fall down while I was away from home and damage them. But rather than give up, I went to Lowes and bought a piece of clear plexiglass. I’d already done the math and had the people at Lowes cut it into a square that was slightly larger than my snowflake shape. It was pricey but a good investment. I returned home and drilled a shallow indentation in the back side of the plexiglass where it would be hidden by the triangles but above the center point of the square allowing the plexiglass to hang like a picture and just deep enough for a nail or screw but not all the way through the material. I replaced the old command strips with new ones trimmed to fit behind the triangles (the release tabs used to stick out from behind the triangles) and remounted them. I placed a drywall anchor into the wall and screwed a small screw in that slightly stuck out and hung the entire thing like a picture. It can be easily moved and the triangles are very secure as the plexiglass has no pores. My lights are also tied into HomeKit. I use them to wake me up (mimicking the sunrise), they are also tied the motion detectors of the cameras in my backyard so , at night, when motion is detected, they light up briefly to let me know to check the cameras without having my iOS device near.
@ShaneCreates 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that sounds great. I bet it looks amazing! And I love the idea of using them to wake you up in the morning. Great job! Thanks for sharing!
@uniqueflh2941 3 жыл бұрын
Great video (as usual) Shane! I would SO like to do an entire wall of those…
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brad! Oh... and I know right?! That would be amazing!!
@rexhua4833 3 жыл бұрын
Thoughtful VR mode and nice touch panel shortcut for rain forecast!
@homekitnews 3 жыл бұрын
“Commitment anxiety” - I’m glad you found a phrase for the very thing I’m suffering from, and also why all of mine are still in their boxes!
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 Glad to know it's not just me!
@paul8926 3 жыл бұрын
I did go through social commitment apartment anxiety myself, but once I started building the light tiles slowly, it was the best thing I ever started. The Nanoleaf really added to my apartment, you will love every minute of it ! 👍
@Barkley1974 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vids! Thank you!
@ShaneCreates 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@inelonwetrust9169 2 жыл бұрын
These are beautiful. Gotta grab them soon.
@HeyTechi 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Shane, covered a lot of stuff I didn't know about Nanoleaf Shapes. Definitely one to watch for when they're enabled as a Thread border router! Makes them even more useful than just art!
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@luisirizarry898 3 жыл бұрын
Bro!!! You are the best!!!! Thanks!
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
no, thank you!! Appreciate the support!
@BZackheim 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Shane. Thanks for the review! I went to sign up for the trial and was first told it would be for 14 days but when I created an account with my Apple login it changed to 7 day. Just FYI.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, thanks for the heads up. I'll check it out.
@jotee804 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and I think thread is the future of a smart home , I have a Nanoleaf bulb and am very exited for the screen mirroring, I was wondering if you could make a video on it so I could see how it works and how to set it up. Thanks for the good review and keep it up 👍🏻
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Jo! I think the screen mirroring only works with their light panels right now. I appreciate the video suggestion. In the meantime, Nanoleaf did make this How-To video for the screen mirror feature that may help : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pZhlbJt0kq2wm3U.html
@jotee804 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneCreates yeah at the moment but in there live event they said it was coming in July to the essentials line. But thanks for the video
@cbasacik 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I always wondered how these things worked. Can never be sure which version will be able to support thread as they have been in the market fot a few years now. So I am holding off until I see the thread stamp on the box.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I hear that. Always a good idea to wait until it actually happens. With that said, they say all the "shapes" and the new "elements" products will get the thread update (the older canvas and light panels will not). Either way, it should be real soon, before the end of the month according to Nanoleaf.
@Polkster13 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I did not realize that you could do so much with these devices. Unfortunately we have very little wall space in our home and what we have is covered up by art work (oil paintings, water colors, shadow boxes, et cetera. Several of our main walls have large cut outs that help make the main living space seem larger than it is. Unfortunately, that also limits the wall space in these rooms. I'll have to think long and hard to find a spot to put these. I also have to consider the WAF and use cases that would be useful in our home. I am very glad to see other companies coming out with a Thread border router option. I am surprised that Eve hasn't come out with a device that can act as a Thread border router as they were an early adopter of Thread enabled devices. Now that Nanoleaf has said they will make their light shape controller a Thread border router through a future software update, I am wondering if Eve may do the same with one of their current, or maybe even future, devices. Another great video. And another video that is making me rethink my HomeKit home and if there is a way I can integrate Shapes into my set up. I bet you are looking forward to Monday's WWDC commencement address! I will be interested in seeing what this new HomeOS is (hopefully a combining and rebranding of the AppleTV OS and HomePod OS) and maybe, just maybe, some updates to how HomeKit works. Is it too much to hope for that they will bring some more updates to HomeKit, like more light icons, more automation options, and maybe make HomeKit more than a hobby product? Or am I wishing for too much?
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frederick! Yes, these shapes are really cool. Also checkout the new "elements" by Nanoleaf. They are like the shapes but have a wood grain look. Yep, definitely looking forward to WWDC. Hopefully we'll hear something regarding HomeOS!
@dannybroddy 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, didn’t realize there were so many other things you could do with the nanoleaf. I think you have provided enough ammo to justify the purchase ;).
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Danny, thanks for watching! I hope you enjoy them!
@davewalker9926 Жыл бұрын
I'm installing a set of 24 of these in my backyard office building. The power cord has always bothered me so I am installing a recessed outlet that will be behind the panels, allowing me to hide that hideous cord. The outlet has to be quite deep though because the transformer/plug is quite large. I'm also venting the recessed outlet so heat doesn't accumulate in that recess.
@milwaukeebrewer9264 3 жыл бұрын
These look like a lot of fun. I think people would be fine with the expenditure as long as they go into the purchase with the attitude that the product is maybe 70% frivolous and 30% functional. I wonder if there's a a practical and safe way to conceal the cord.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I agree. The main reason to get these is just because they are fun and look REALLY cool. However, adding the ability to use them as homekit buttons is a nice addition and I am glad they included that. And that update turning them into a thread border router does also give them a little more function as well.
@pct87 2 жыл бұрын
Since they can be used as a button, can I set it up so they act as a combination lock? For example, if I tap the triangles in a certain pattern, that will lock/unlock a door?
@victorvek5227 2 жыл бұрын
They really need to come up with a hardwire solution that’s UL listed. The wire hanging down the wall detracts from the cool factor A LOT.
@howardyermish 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought that these were just cool lights and I had no idea that you could turn each shape into a HomeKit controller. I wonder if you could make the shapes respond to specific people arriving home or particular sensors detecting motion or something. As usual, great video!
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Howard! Yea you could certainly do all those things you mentioned. Since the lights, and even the effects/scenes work in HomeKit, you can creat those automations based on location or sensors just like any other HomeKit automation. I was thinking of doing something like that for these actually.
@AlexManMe 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneCreates definitely do a video on advance ideas of using these :-)
@tavey 2 жыл бұрын
can you put the shapes on the wall next to the stairs and have them light up 1 at a time as you go up or down the stairs??
@alexandro5616 2 жыл бұрын
Probably need a sensor but I can see that being possible.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
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@RiverCityBBQ 2 жыл бұрын
How many can you connect together?
@qubit7112 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if this would work as a kitchen back splash lol. Been waiting for the nanoleaf essentials to come in stock for months now.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Haha they would look cool for sure as a backsplash. Although I wouldn't want to put them there.. I'd be too afraid they'd get messed up with all the steam, grease, etc. from cooking.
@stralog 2 жыл бұрын
Even Shane calls thread border router a hub on 15:30. Why do everybody tell that you don’t need to have a hub when you do?!
@mujtabaqadiri8383 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I really need help sticking my triangles to my wall again before I did good by buying command strip and sticking them on the back and wall but now I’m having trouble they keep falling apart which is disturbing because I keep having to put them back together
@mujtabaqadiri8383 4 ай бұрын
I also need help connecting them back to my google assistant speaker
@janwilliammejer7511 3 жыл бұрын
Did you mount with screws or the “sticky pad” ? Curious if they will stick on our chuky woodchip wall paper
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
I mounted mine with the sticky pads. The panels are very light so it shouldn't take much to hold them up.
@sunshineprogamer 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I actually bought 2 starter kits and 2 expansion kits of their Canvas panels, but I haven't installed them because of the commitment involved, and I bought them over a year ago, do you know if the Canvas will get the Thread treatment or not? That will definitely push me to finally install them.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe the Canvas panels will get the thread update as it does require some hardware that they don’t have. If I recall correctly, only the shapes and new elements light panels will get the thread update.
@sunshineprogamer 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneCreates Thx
@samturner3478 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneCreates Has this been confirmed? Do “Nanoleaf Shapes” have the hardware and will the firmware be updated for Thread?
@ShaneCreates 2 жыл бұрын
@@samturner3478 yes the shapes have already been updated to act as a thread border router, currently just for other Nanoleaf thread devices. But soon there will be another update for them to be a border router supporting ANY thread homekit device.
@Kim-ct1hm 2 жыл бұрын
how do they look unlit during the day? Iam a bit afraid it will to plasticy
@ShaneCreates 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, they don't look great during the day... defiantly a little "plasticy." You may want to look at the Nanoleaf Elements or the Lines to see if they would look better for your setup.
@EricGranata 3 жыл бұрын
Shane, do these put out a meaningful amount of light? I’ve got a dark corner of the room and I’m wondering if they would be enough to brighten it up or if I’d be better off with a proper lamp.
@StormCrow42 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the size of the panel, spec'd at 80 lumens/panel for the triangles and 100 lumens/panel for the hexagons. For comparison, a typical Hue smart light bulb is 800 lumens.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
They are very bright imo. Of course, the more panels, the brighter. And the brightness also varies some depending on which shapes you have. I have 10 triangles and they are definitely enough to lighten up a corner of the room.
@mrcancan18 2 жыл бұрын
If you use the double sided tape that came in the box good luck with not damaging the wall. I bout the original kit and took those down because I but the new shape kit with 3 expansion.. I learned my lesson..I went out and bought command strip and those work just as good without damaging the wall
@ShaneCreates 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@gregbales5110 3 жыл бұрын
Great review I’m looking to start HomeKit. I live in the country and don’t have very good Internet. So I’m thinking Products with thread is the way to go. What do you think is the way to go with bad Service. Thanks love your videos.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg! I appreciate the support! Yea, thread products are probably a good option for those with bad internet since they can communicate locally via thread. And HomeKit in general is probably a good thing because of that local communication. Also, products that use a hub that can be hard wired into your router, like zigbee (Phillips Hue, Aqara, etc) or Lutron's ClearConnect may also be good options. But you'll still have frustrations at times I'm sure if your internet is that bad, especially when it comes to things like controlling products remotely.
@Polkster13 3 жыл бұрын
Greg Bales - when you say you don't have good Internet, are you talking about the speeds coming into your house? If so, that doesn't have anything to do with the IoT devices inside your home unless they have to communicate with a cloud service (like Google and Alexa). If you are using just HomeKit devices and having them communicate with just your HomeKit servers (AppleTV, HomePod, iPad), then all you need to do is have a good WiFi device/devices that cover your home well. That said, using things like Lutron Caseta switches which talks to its own dedicated hub using their ClearConnect communication standard will take a bunch of the WiFi traffic off of your internal LAN and just the Lutron Caseta hub will be the only device connected to your LAN and that is through an ethernet cable direct connect to your router or switch. So all of the switches "talk" to the Lutron hub and the hub then communicates directly to your HomeKit server. If your internal LAN WiFi has poor connectivity, then I highly recommend you look into first correctly that with a good mesh router setup or step up to a system using Wireless Access Points like Ubiquity UniFi or something similar. Otherwise, you may experience the dreaded "No Response" on your WiFi attached IoT devices. If you would like to discuss this further, please feel free to contact me as I would be happy to help you get your internet issues resolved.
@gregbales5110 3 жыл бұрын
@@Polkster13 I have century link I only get 12 MBps it work ok looking to get one of the hub Systems. Really interested in the thread systems when They get more products in stock. I just don’t want to slow down my Internet any slower than it is.
@Polkster13 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregbales5110 Your internal and external speeds are quite different. Even though you have low external speeds for your Internet coming in, that really doesn't affect the internal speeds between devices on your internal LAN. For instance, if you have a 10 GB network card in a computer that is hooked up to a 10 GB switch that is hooked up to a NAS drive system that has a 10 GB ethernet card in it, then transferring data to and from the NAS from your computer will be close to 10 GB regardless of your WAN speed coming in. The limiting factors are type of cabling, network card speeds, and the switch being used. If the switch were say a 1 GB switch, then everything going though that switch would be reduced down to 1 GB of speed regardless of the connections to the NAS and computer. The same applies to your internal LAN in your home. should It sounds like the bottle neck you are experiencing is the slow speeds coming from your WAN device (modem/router) when you are trying to access the Internet in the outside world from your internal LAN. As long as your IoT devices are not sending requests out to the cloud (like a lot of Alexa and Google devices do because they are cloud based), then that should not adversely affect your computers from accessing the WWW through your WAN device.
@Polkster13 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregbales5110 Does your CentryLink modem also serve as your DHCP router? If so, I would highly recommend that you get a mesh router system to cover your house and have the CentryLink modem set up to be just a WAN access point to the WWW. The mesh routers will then handle all of the internal traffic in your home for wired and wireless devices and then route any outside requests through the modem. The mesh routers will also handle your IP address assignments, DNS lookups, and any firewall rules that you set up (or are set up for you by the mesh network).
@geek2330 3 жыл бұрын
Also, Costco had those shapes online for $149.99 but now it shows unavailable :-(
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Good find. Thanks for sharing!
@kurtb5624 3 жыл бұрын
What is the discount code?
@iWasBetterOffDead 2 жыл бұрын
Where I get confused is with all the different panels they make and the compatibility, for starters Im looking at the 3 pack shapes expansion and they aren't compatible with canvas or rhythm lights(I want them to react to music) ... Now your saying that the "shapes" actually can react to music... I dont know which to buy anymore or what works with what so confused 😩
@ShaneCreates 2 жыл бұрын
The shapes are the newer ones and they are interchangeable... so you can use different "shapes" with each other. And yes they all respond to music.
@MKizzle2906 3 жыл бұрын
How to create room wallpaper like yours ?
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
I use the HomePaper app
@MKizzle2906 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneCreates thank u so much ! Great app
@paul8926 3 жыл бұрын
They just released the wooden Nanoleaf hexagons, they look pretty cool !
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they do! Nice to have options for different room designs!
@marktime61 2 жыл бұрын
looks great, only problem with all these things is trying to hide the wires :-)...
@ShaneCreates 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Definitely something to consider.
@standardsergio 3 жыл бұрын
Should buy the hexagons, because they are the bestagons
@AshamDeangelo 3 жыл бұрын
Can you review Aqara M2 hub.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, that is coming very soon. Stay tuned!
@AshamDeangelo 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneCreates Thanks. Specially curious if any remote is exposed to HomeKit. Or can be used in shortcuts.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
@@AshamDeangelo Thanks for the question. I'll be sure to cover that in the upcoming video.
@markhuf 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Shane, Thanks for your video! I am trying to understand how these new product(s) will connect. You explained and this is also mentioned on Nanoleaf’s website, that these need to be connected to 2,4 GHz Wifi. When the thread update has been rolled out, would these new products also be able to be connected via / through HomePod mini’s? Asking because the HomePod mini’s connect to 5 GHz WiFi. If that, unfortunately, would not be possible (connecting the new Nanoleaf products to the HomePod mini’s via thread) I will pass on these beautiful looking new products. But there is no way I will connect these to a 2,4 GHz Wifi network. Hopefully you can shed some light on this?😉 Thread to HomePod mini, fine. Connecting directly to a 2,4 GHz Wifi network, not so fine, instant showstopper. Appreciate your response. Stay healthy 🍏✅👍
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, yes, these need to connect to your 2.4 GHz wifi network and will even after they get the update. They will not connect via thread. Since they will act as a border router, they will still connect directly to the wifi network, and thread child devices can then connect to the shapes via thread.
@markhuf 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneCreates Thanks for your quick reply Shane. Too bad. Obviously it is what it is. Just wondering, what is your opinion on this, no 5GHz support? Best.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
@@markhuf Doesn't bother me at all. In fact, most wifi enabled smart home accessories connect via 2.4 GHz network, so I have quite a few.
@markhuf 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneCreates I am in the process of phasing out as much 2,4 as possible, hence my question. Thanks for your response and keep up the great videos 🍏✅👍
@peterrasmussen3100 3 жыл бұрын
These are a little too modern looking for my home and tastes. They are cool, though.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
I understand that. Have you seen the new Shape Elements, just recently announced? They have a wood look, a little less modern and more natural looking than the original white shapes. (affiliate link) geni.us/NanoElements
@sportzspaz6303 3 жыл бұрын
Misleading and click bait title. IT DOES NOT HAVE THREAD (yet) and you did not review the thread aspects. You just talked some BS about it and don’t have the details or tests. Waste of time.
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and appreciate the feedback. 😉 👍🏻
@gregbales5110 3 жыл бұрын
You get a lot of free stuff 🤣
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
One of the perks of working countless hours on KZfaq videos every week I guess... 😉
@gregbales5110 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneCreates you do a great job 👍
@thetruth5210 3 жыл бұрын
No love for the EVE power as a thread border router?
@ShaneCreates 3 жыл бұрын
I've got lots of love for Eve! But the the Eve Energy smart plug acts as a thread router, not a thread border router.
@PaulSinnema Жыл бұрын
Stop saying ALEXA please.
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