Shaper gear cutting

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Neal Blackburn

Neal Blackburn

4 жыл бұрын

In this video i show a gear cutter i made for my shaping machine. I cut a 48 tooth spur gear on my Varnamo 18 inch metal shaper.

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@BabyJesus66
@BabyJesus66 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite part is the sandals.
@lauriecharles8854
@lauriecharles8854 3 жыл бұрын
Best safety boots ever mate.
@BabyJesus66
@BabyJesus66 3 жыл бұрын
@@lauriecharles8854 I always go for the steel strap sandals, very safe.
@drmodestoesq
@drmodestoesq 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm...I'd go with the white coveralls.
@millerdeclan6074
@millerdeclan6074 3 жыл бұрын
I guess Im kinda randomly asking but does anyone know of a good place to watch new movies online ?
@quinnzane5817
@quinnzane5817 3 жыл бұрын
@Miller Declan I would suggest flixzone. Just google for it =)
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын
I have not seen an attachment for the shaper of this type in forty years. Nice job working on the gear.
@sky173
@sky173 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful design and workmanship. Thanks for sharing. (I knew I should never have sold my shaper, lol)
@danielelliott3659
@danielelliott3659 Жыл бұрын
Same here!
@ogaugeclockwork4407
@ogaugeclockwork4407 3 жыл бұрын
Great work! I learned in an old dirt floored blacksmith shop, your workshop makes me miss it!
@marcosl1
@marcosl1 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, I have some machines but the one I most admire is the planer, a simple machine and few are interested but it is very useful in small companies, greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷
@joandar1
@joandar1 3 жыл бұрын
You now have another Aussie Subscriber. Love your work and you workshop Mate. John NSW.
@mikebryan544
@mikebryan544 Жыл бұрын
Ace love these no bullshit shaper vids
@grahamsengineering.2532
@grahamsengineering.2532 3 жыл бұрын
Great looking setup there.
@mattblack156
@mattblack156 3 жыл бұрын
This method of gear generation is how a Sunderland gear planer works, using a rack form cutter to generate a gear tooth form on a round work piece. Nice work!
@pjofurey6239
@pjofurey6239 4 ай бұрын
Always racing to see a shaper at work, I have a dedicated chair next to mine , costs me hours when I should be doing other stuff. Love the workshop ! Greets from wet,cold and un secure England .
@sparkiekosten5902
@sparkiekosten5902 3 жыл бұрын
You made that!.....Amazing!
@jaimezuleta8125
@jaimezuleta8125 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Work. Greetings from Venezuela.
@JohnDoe-ce2wl
@JohnDoe-ce2wl 3 жыл бұрын
I would have loved a camera angle along the direction of the tool movement and looking at the slot between two teeth being formed. What would also have been great: showing the motion where the table is cranked back to the starting position in the beginning, as this makes tangible the way the axes are coupled and how the motion is orchestrated. Very nice setup!
@JBFromOZ
@JBFromOZ 3 жыл бұрын
It’s really awesome seeing different approaches to this problem! The solution I implemented was due to not having the gears of the pitch required, or a rack, or indexing head available. In practise we use the tensioned wire approach to drive our embroidery machine pantographs at high speed and they maintain 0.1mm positional accuracy day in, day out. The only other setup items required are a disc turned to PCD and a disk cut with index slots for the desired number of teeth. Worth a look in my channel if you are interested in that method, which also includes a build series in the playlist
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
i have seen your videos and it was just what i needed to kick start me into action ...thanks for the inspiration
@JBFromOZ
@JBFromOZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@nealblackburn8628 where in Oz are you mate?
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
@@JBFromOZ about 1 hour outer bris
@gordonfrank
@gordonfrank 4 ай бұрын
Nice to see your old shaper working. Mine is older, doesn't even have a clutch, you have to turn the motor on/off. The ways on mine are in similar shape to yours. I plan to scrape someday, but for now it gets the job done. Enjoy your videos.
@craigtate5930
@craigtate5930 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome setup! I even love the oiling wick you have on your cutter. I tend to put the oil right on top of the tool as well and let it run down. But this is a much better idea
@logicalguy488
@logicalguy488 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, never seen a shop like that. No walls, sand floors and flip flops on the feet. I bet the machines take a beating and get covered in sand.
@shaunbrennan5281
@shaunbrennan5281 3 жыл бұрын
Thongs mate... or maybe double pluggers not flip flops. Unless you're a seppo.
@paulgreenlee190
@paulgreenlee190 7 ай бұрын
You have one of the neatest shops I have ever seen. Everything is sitting on a packed dirt floor. Any issues with ants? I just a hobbyist machinist if that much, my career is welding/fabricating. I was a tube welder and a pipe welder among other things. You have to be a genius to keep up with you, your videos are great, and I will surely watch them several times to get all I can out of them. I only have a lathe to work with, wanted to find a milling machine but it's ridicules what some folks are asking for them. I thought about a shaper if you can find one in good shape that is. Seems to me that you could do a lot of machining with a shaper alone that is after you learn all the features and how to operate it. Anyway, thanks so much for sharing your skills and videos. Paul Greenlee
@hinz1
@hinz1 3 жыл бұрын
The only real way to cut gears on a shaper that I've seen on youtube so far ;-)
@jeffa6168
@jeffa6168 2 жыл бұрын
Smart solution!
@2aklamath
@2aklamath 2 жыл бұрын
Love It ! Thank you
@adventureal977
@adventureal977 3 жыл бұрын
Good work Neal
@Rustinox
@Rustinox 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Neal, i'm a new subscriber. Very interesting setup on the shaper. I hope we'll see more shaper videos. PS; Nice safety shoes you have :-)
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 3 ай бұрын
Just found your channel and Subscribed. Very nice project. Nice work
@mohammedkhabba9830
@mohammedkhabba9830 3 жыл бұрын
perfect حب العمل يساوي الإتقان bravo 👍
@lesthompson5907
@lesthompson5907 3 жыл бұрын
now that was very intresting son .
@mychannelmychennel1749
@mychannelmychennel1749 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 3 жыл бұрын
I will figure out how he did that!!! Thanks for sharing.
@t79265922548
@t79265922548 3 жыл бұрын
make more videos! very interesting! thx!!!
@DOCTORDROTT
@DOCTORDROTT 3 жыл бұрын
good video
@CH-pt8fz
@CH-pt8fz Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@ppolly100
@ppolly100 3 жыл бұрын
Love your work mate! You wouldn’t be a marine engineer by chance?
@MrSmithDotShop
@MrSmithDotShop 3 жыл бұрын
I would think whatever change gears you choose it would need to be 1:1 between the rack and the cut gear. In the 48 tooth example I'm guessing you have a 48 tooth on the rack and two 60 tooth gears at the driving end. Or another way of thinking about it would be cut gear (48) + 60 tooth welded gear = # of teeth (108) required on the rack side. Am I missing something?
@JuhaErkkila
@JuhaErkkila 3 жыл бұрын
Best part... "I've never seen a video where they would read the manual..." ;) LOL Actually this whole video is awesome presentation of knowledge. Thank You very much form Finland!
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for listening carefully and the kind words in reply
@goldcoasttime
@goldcoasttime 3 жыл бұрын
@@nealblackburn8628 Neal is this your design / invention
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldcoasttime it's my design ..sort of...i know that something like this was done a 100 years ago but i haven't seen it
@shaunbrennan5281
@shaunbrennan5281 3 жыл бұрын
You're not at lightning ridge are you Neal?
@eyuptony
@eyuptony 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Neal. That's brilliant. So do you change the gears like on a lathe to obtain different pitches? I like the paper towel trick to hold the coolant. Love your airy workshop. Tony
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
i got a universal dividing head which comes with a selection of change gears and the idea was to make use of something i already had... actually you need more than you get with a dividing head but it is a good start and you can cheat a bit and use a gear which isn't quite right or you could use the tool to cut a gear by indexing for the number of teeth and do a plunge cut for every tooth....you change the gearing so that the gear you are cutting turns at the correct speed .....Geoffery Crocker does a good of explaining what is going on in his video
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
if you got change gears from a lathe you could build it to use them ..i built it to use the change gears that i got with my dividing head
@stephensarkany3577
@stephensarkany3577 5 ай бұрын
No I haven't watched the whole vid yet, but the greatest part of this setup is that the cutter is a rack form not involute, so it is perfect for generating any number of teeth. I want a shaper.
@stephensarkany3577
@stephensarkany3577 5 ай бұрын
Except you can't index prime numbers with that indexer. With a modification like a lathe banjo and interchangable prime driven gears you could use it like a direct indexer.
@swarandeep13
@swarandeep13 3 жыл бұрын
Kindly show ur entire workshop n all machines ......
@tadhgburke9709
@tadhgburke9709 3 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic, if you wouldn't mind could you do an in depth video of the gear cutting unit? How it was built? I love to build one for the baby Boxford, excellent video!
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
i am going to do a video where i take it to pieces and explain all the parts and how you could make them .....too busy at the moment
@tadhgburke9709
@tadhgburke9709 3 жыл бұрын
@@nealblackburn8628 that's awesome, thank you very much for taking the time to make the video in the first place
@yemyothant7629
@yemyothant7629 3 жыл бұрын
Did you buy gear making device attachment or make yourself?
@ProfLuisHerrera
@ProfLuisHerrera 3 жыл бұрын
The ol´good involute method! If a "modern" machinist wonders how this works, his brain will explode!
@alexandremachado3389
@alexandremachado3389 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@sion023
@sion023 8 ай бұрын
It's brilliant, elegant design, do I understand correctly that it is the pitch circle diameter that needs to rotate at exactly 1:1 with the table traverse? I also have a dirt floor workshop with no walls, mine has the disadvantage of being in Wales, so dirt sometime means mud. I have heard of something I think it's called 'concrete' which may improve things one day.
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 8 ай бұрын
that is correct and if you have the right change gears that is the way you set it up but if you havn't you can cheat a little bit and make a gear with the right number of teeth (that can be done with the indexing bit of the device ) and a gear profile that is not quite right and then use that to cut your gear
@MrSmithDotShop
@MrSmithDotShop 3 жыл бұрын
Neal, I have a Värnamo SH-2 14" shaper. I've been thinking of making a gear cutter for mine. I like the rack driven design, most I've seen use a cable tangent to the pitch diameter. The video cut off right when you were describing the gearing. It appears you have 48 tooth on the rack and a couple 60 tooth gears opposite. Is that correct?
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
tried to reply to your email didn't send... the 48 is being cut.. the 60 is permanently welded to index housing .. the others i might tell you later
@MrSmithDotShop
@MrSmithDotShop 3 жыл бұрын
@@nealblackburn8628 Thanks for the quick response. I don't think it's possible to reply to the youtube email notifications. My email is rasmith at chehalisschools dot org.
@richardhead8264
@richardhead8264 3 жыл бұрын
_Hi Neal, I love to see "boot strap" engineering in which you generate an involute from a trapezoidal cutter!_ _How did you pre-slit the tooth spaces in your blank? Did you use the shaper with live advancement disengaged?_ _By the way, what was your module/DP and pressure angle on this job?_
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
you don' need to pre slit the tooth spaces, the indexing component makes sure the teeth are all properly spaced...i know the photography isn't the best and it is hard to see what is going on...i want to do another video to explain more but too busy at the moment ...its a 12 DP with 20 pressure angle
@richardhead8264
@richardhead8264 3 жыл бұрын
@@nealblackburn8628 _Thank you very much for your reply! I just discovered your channel this week. And I'm glad that KZfaq recommended it to me!_ _I incorrectly assumed that you would pre-slit to limit the amount of wear on the tool. But now I understand that the tool is able to perform the entire job._ _Your homemade indexer is the best one I have seen on KZfaq. I assume that the large tension spring eliminates backlash. Excellent work, Sir!_ 👍
@colinthomasson3948
@colinthomasson3948 3 жыл бұрын
so it starts off cutting at a tangent and then the rotation brings the gear into the verticle pane of the cutter ?
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
the Geofery Crocker video on gear cutting does a good job of explaining what is going on ...in terms of generating the involute shape.... .have you seen that
@JohnDoe-ce2wl
@JohnDoe-ce2wl 3 жыл бұрын
@@nealblackburn8628 I imagine a trapezoidal tool engaging and disengaging the work just like as if a gear would engage a rack as it rolls over it, only the rack subtracts metal when diving into the gear blank. Is that about right?
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-ce2wl ....the rack idea is right but just imagine only one tooth can cut
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын
Your shop is a bit open to the elements. Do you have a way to cover the side wall to keep rain out of the shop ??? Thanks
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 2 жыл бұрын
i am waiting to make my fortune from You Tube so i can afford the roller doors that are going on all the way around.....but it might take a bit longer than i thought
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын
@@nealblackburn8628 I totally understand Neal. Funds today are tight for us all these days. Hope you make your fortune Sir. Peace Vic
@timogross8191
@timogross8191 3 жыл бұрын
How did you make the blue thing? I would like to see that. Especially the indexing part.
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
i hope to do another video and explain how it was built ...too busy at the moment
@timmer9lives
@timmer9lives 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see it also. Fascinating and brilliant !!
@mariaramirezcastro5936
@mariaramirezcastro5936 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing... I'm highly into watching that tool
@adelelsharkawy9874
@adelelsharkawy9874 3 жыл бұрын
Pravoooooo prof
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 3 жыл бұрын
I like the precision ruler ... 🙄😂
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
other people sell t shirts and beer glasses ...i think i should sell precision rulers ...thanks for the tip
@silvanabenedetti2813
@silvanabenedetti2813 3 жыл бұрын
Belle le infradito antinfortunistiche!
@mugsymegaton3769
@mugsymegaton3769 3 жыл бұрын
An outdoor machine shop ? I don’t get it, seems kinda risky.
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 3 жыл бұрын
it is risky but if you don't take risks in life you will still be taking baby steps and learning to walk....that doesn't mean i haven't landed flat on my face....plenty of times
@mugsymegaton3769
@mugsymegaton3769 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right, I took risks and am flat on my face at present. Best of luck !
@MohammedAli-dc8xd
@MohammedAli-dc8xd 3 жыл бұрын
Allah100Allah
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 11 ай бұрын
If it is a 60 tooth gear being cut then i would think it needs to be a 60 tooth gear in mesh with the driving rack or a ratio train of gears that equate to the same.
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 11 ай бұрын
thats right but you can cheat a bit if you don't have the correct racio because you are only cutting one tooth at a time so the error might be very small just the same way as gear cutters cover a number of different gears
@guliwer1713
@guliwer1713 3 жыл бұрын
суров !!!1
@Stefan_Boerjesson
@Stefan_Boerjesson 7 ай бұрын
Didn't get it, how You know when the gap cut is done and it's time to move to the next tooth. Rustinox recently showed his way of shaper cutting a tooth wheel. -didn't understand him either... Your foot ware is not very protective. Don't You chips and swarf in Your feet?
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 7 ай бұрын
watch again and when it gets to 2.28 you will see me advance the indexing unite one tooth .... if you watch the Rustinox video you will notice he unscrews a little pointed bolt and moves it around one tooth on a gear he has attached to the shaft ...it is plain to see if you watch our videos completely ...but i don't know what your video quality is like
@Stefan_Boerjesson
@Stefan_Boerjesson 7 ай бұрын
@@nealblackburn8628 I saw that but how do You know You've reached the point to stop cutting and advance the index?
@nealblackburn8628
@nealblackburn8628 7 ай бұрын
what happens is the cutting tool goes into the gear ( to be cut ) and then comes out ...when it comes out it is time to index to the next position.... But the tool doesn't actually move to achieve that ..the gear blank itself moves across and rotates under the tool to achieve that ...don't be lazy watch carefully and you will work it out@@Stefan_Boerjesson
@rayfletcher8759
@rayfletcher8759 3 жыл бұрын
Steel toe Jesus sandals
@gordongallacher2449
@gordongallacher2449 3 жыл бұрын
Please put some safety shoes on!
@johnhili8664
@johnhili8664 3 жыл бұрын
First of all I like the safety shoes, secondly that gadget is too complicated its much faster and easier on the milling!!!!!!!
@ProfLuisHerrera
@ProfLuisHerrera 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly you born yesterday, im not gonna explain why a shaper is still on use, just search the involute method for gear cutting, expand your mind a little bit! (Youre rigth with the "security shoes", but just that)
@mohamedsakr5570
@mohamedsakr5570 3 жыл бұрын
This is faster rather than milling and more accurately Perfect involute
@mohamedsakr5570
@mohamedsakr5570 3 жыл бұрын
How to setting for cutting helical gear. Vedio please
@johnhili8664
@johnhili8664 3 жыл бұрын
@@mohamedsakr5570 Keep on dreaming my friend:-))
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