New Sharpshot and Deadeye cleaving the back also means we now have more viable characters to take to fight Dreaming General and Seething Sigh (back lung specifically).

I think Nightsworn Repartee is really funny. “Here, look at my friend over here, don’t look at me!” [stealths away]

I like that they're still rebalancing stuff and see if something doesn't work.

When is Red Hook gonna realize what the players REALLY want and just make every character Hellion with different weapons smh

Double Tap actually double tapping with sharpshot is a nice touch, and can be a really nice design for future skills. Also, the new infernal flames being in the middle of the track instead of extending it is a good choice imo

30:40 2nd shot has no rank constrains because of shenanigans like "lost in time", which can shuffle you on stress proc (for exemple if you miss with the +20% damage range skills, and you take one stress). Very niche cases but they may have done that not break something in the game/softlock you.

something to note, this brings so much more new interactions. like how now that there is a 3 target cleaves that can semi be used often that does damage and you would want to use often, means that things like runaway's buff to apply burn on hit is more effective, or trinkets that apply a dot on hit will have a bigger impact.

The best part about pick to the face is that some of the paths no longer penalize you for doing melee damage.

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Big thing about Wicked Slice in Yellowhand is that it can hit rank 3 aswell which is a great option that many frontliners don't have.

A combo I've already fallen in love with is Nightsworn GR and Rogue HWM. Repartee onto HWM guarantees his Ripostes go off and with Duelist giving block he can sustain a fair bit of punishment, amazing changes all around

Double tap hitting twice is interesting because it now triggers on hit effects twice. Stuff like runaway fire starter will make dismas apply the burn twice which will feel amazing. Those trinkets that apply debuffs or dots on hit might be better on dismas too.

Apolgy for bad english Where were u wen sharpshoot die I was at home eating luch when shuffle posts video "Sharpshoot is kil" "No"

Can't wait for the remaining characters to get their Paths updated.

maybe a small thing but I wish they'd add the ability to hover over the affected skills in the tooltip for the path and see a comparison of the changes with wanderer so I don't have to be switching between paths to figure out the changes (maybe my brain can't hold short term information very well) should I make that suggestion with f5

Drummer's focus fire no longer deals damage i think that's pretty cool

I swear, I was talking to Shy in his twitch chat about how hilarious it was to force guard with antiquarian on duelist HWM in DD1 like 4 days ago, and now Red Hook hit us with Nightsworn Repartee + new Rogue

This really is what the game needs right now, it makes party composition way more interesting and promotes different playstyles. I hope they rework mma and plague doctor next.

12:13 I really enjoy this change because it suggests later rebalanced moves having effects that activate with tokens/effects other than combo. This can potentially open up varied synergies between heroes instead of most interactions being locked behind "did you place combo on the enemy or not".

take aim should have the blind removal front-loaded. That is the flavor he can;t see so he takes aim. Take aim to miss? wtf

What I really wanna see for a future update is more endgame uses for candles once you have everything unlocked. Maybe a system where you can sacrifice candles for a big price (30~50) to get a couple random items and trinkets, maybe you can choose a unique buff and debuff or clause to your run to spice it up and add more thought into the heros you pick. I love saving the gamble item unlocks and grabbing a couple every run to make a strategy around, I hope that returns in some way

How could Redhook do this to Dev Bias incarnate? How could they remove the very player engaging loop of Sharpshot TA Grapeshot Double Tap? I demand justice /j

I think the Fragile Flame acts similarly to the Radiant Flame, in that is has a set pool of “debuffs” it randomly picks every run, so some may not be as bad

I hope that at some point we will see Dismas' double tap animation reflect the name of the skill. It would be cool as heck to see him pull out a second, smaller pistol - perhaps similar to the one Sahar wields - when shooting the additional shot

POG. I played sharpshot highwayman earlier and the new take aim felt awkward, still good. I really liked the damage buff to pistol shot.

I'm feeling utterly lost now with Unusual Suspects. Before I ran Van MAA, Sharp HWM, Deadeye GR, and Alchemist PD and had a very good grasp of things and a very consistent strat for dealing with r1 Librarian and Dreaming General, but now even on Denial with the extra three mastery points I feel clueless and I'm losing people even with experimenting with things like Nightsworn GR

Interesting change I noticed at 21:57 : the immobilize from Generals Trophy now disappears after 5 rounds…

I can't believe they fucking murdered the Bumper Crop

Great, now do this for all the paths for the other characters then we are good! When they do wanderer vestal, here’s some suggestions for reference to improve vestal made by me and the community. Mine and the community’s Vestal Changes in regard to skills Hand of light At base: 2-3 damage, 5% crit rate. Cooldown 3 Add block, give +33% damage (3 Rounds) , generate strength (50%) (3 Rounds), generate block (50%) (3 Rounds) At Mastery: 3-4 damage, 5% crit rate. Cooldown 3 Add Strength, Block+, give +33% damage (3 Rounds), generate strength (50%) (3 Rounds), generate Block+ (50%) (3 Rounds), generate crit (15%) (3 Rounds), give Strength and Block+ to Random Adjacent hero Judgement At base: 4-7 damage, 5% crit rate, heal vestal for 2 hp, burn for 3, if target has combo increase damage to 8-10 and heal vestal for 8hp. Cooldown 1 If 2 conviction: deals +50% damage, 50% crit rate, burn +3 If 3 conviction: deals +100% damage, 50% crit rate, guaranteed crit on combo At Mastery: 5-8 damage, 10% crit rate, heal vestal for 4hp, burn for 4, if target has combo increase damage to 10-12 and heal vestal for 12hp. Cooldown 1 If 2 conviction: deals +60% damage, 75% crit rate, Burn +4 If 3 conviction: deals +110% damage, 75% crit rate, guaranteed crit on combo Divine Grace At Base: requires hp

That’s honestly what I thought double tap was when I first read the move.

Your Highwayman's name will now have to change to NotABot

I think take aim + still has use because that makes the cooldown run on the timing it’s going to take you to spend the tokens without items or riposte. Take aim, crit, crit, take aim again. Maybe not necessary for short battles but great for longer ones. A little sad the sick new double tap is sharpshot only. Sharpshot fell a little flat for me because some of it is still just boosted damage but now that I see that pistol shot gives up the daze/stun for it I’m cool with it. I’m just so happy they finally started doing this, ever since Vestal I’ve been itching for them to fix hero paths and was annoyed when they reformatted Grave Robber’s and acted like that was the same thing. And of course Dismas is one of the first to get the treatment XD Man I’m excited for the rest.

Mark of the chosen sounds like such a fun infernal flame. The balance changes are also very good.

Repartee Nightsworn and Flag are gonna be best friends now

These changes seem promising! Graverobber has grown on me in dd2 so it's nice to see her get some help. Kind of excited to try that new nightsworn repartee with duelist or heck even new highwayman.

I'm still waiting for a reason to put on infernal flames beyond just getting bonus candles and bragging rights. I wish the cosmetic unlocks had been based on completing runs with flames rather than just spending candles. I love jacking up my ascension level in Slay the Spire, but I've literally never felt the need to put on a flame in DD2.

I'm so exited to go back to DD2 for all these cool changes

This is way more interesting than paths that mostly have melee or range attacks doing more/less etc. I also love to seeing GR getting the overall buff she deserved.

Overall, I think the changes are good. Nightsworn looks pretty neat now that she can actually generate enough stealth to keep up her damage and Venomdrop is actually usable now that they got rid of the speed debuff + skill changes. Rogue will probably be my new favorite HWM now (used to be YH), Sharpshot got slapped down a little without being made useless, but Yellowhand seems like he still needs a bit of love (though I am ecstatic Robbery can be used in 1 now). I'm also a little surprised they didn't touch Open Veins at all though. I like Rogue's Take Aim, but am confused why they still have the 2nd crit token for the other paths' but got rid of the blind cleanse. Guess I'll just use Milk Soaked Linen and keep deleting with Take Aim. Though I will say Double-Tap/Second Shot devouring both crit tokens to do the same damage as previous Double Tap was a solid idea.

There's a lot of thoughtfulness to this patch. They didn't just buff the weak choices and nerf the strong ones -- they reworked different paths and moves so they actually fill different niches. Excited to run Audrey and Dismas in new ways.

Red hook are my favourite devs they truly feel attached to not only the game but the community too. I hope I get to meet some of them one day

I said the game'd be great if we got more Occultist style reworks and so far it's 4 out of 4. If they keep this up this game might reach 10/10 in my book.

It's interesting the fragile flame says "Effects are randomized" at the bottom. I wonder if its like the negative version of the radiant flame where you only get a couple of those effects out of the list

im glad theyr putting an emphasis on special cit effects very dd1 and i missed it

Man, love that they're doing this with characters. I'm way more excited about what theyll do with jester and leper paths. The devs gave us alot to look forward to, I would much rather have existing characters get polished and refined to create more synergies and fun play styles than constantly asking where the other DD1 characters are

are they gonna fix the tooltips for the new paths? cause fuck the new paths when you have to keep checking every individual skill and then swap between them and wanderer to find out what the differences actually are.

Nightsworn Flashing Daggers is just... man what BS are we getting away with here. Red Hook spoiling us rotten with god-tier cleaves. MAA just puts Command on GR from now on

I've just tried out the Bastard flame, Act 1 was interesting (took memoried heroes), got Collector in the first region almost straight away, fun times. Librarian at 130 hp. Also, for some reason, my general trophy that prevents movement kinda switched off at the locks? Did I miss something? It was working in the fight leading to the locks, and then noped out.

Ok so i see the return of battle long buffs. That's nice hopefully more heroes get battle long buffs instead of spamming the buff skill every 2-3 turns.

I hope one of the things coming in 2024 is houndmaster, id be able to have my dd1 build back

So, Audrey now hides behind allies, stabs everyone with daggers, give you extra trinkets and poison enemies? Antiquarian should sue her for stolen identity.

This is really sick. I love the huge patches like this. It makes me excited to sit down and play for hours again.

I've not been this hyped to play the game since launch. The update is amazing, it's like 2 new characters added to the game. I can't wait for the other characters to have a rework. I love this dd2. I love Red Hook.

Not sure how I feel about every path eventually losing all the +speed buffs on characters in the game.

With the Fragile Flame you completely skipped over "effects are randomised"

Ngl I kinda hope Hellion gets buffed at some point in the future. I feel like winded is too harsh for what can often be lackluster performance I'd prefer if the damage was like -10 or -15. It's really noticeable too when you compare to occultist who performs better with unchecked power but exchanges it for his really hard hitting spells which takes him back to base level strength afterwards while Hellion performs fine but winded is a net negative on her performance unless you are carcass. She also has the most sensitive positioning and her trinkets just feel wacky. She's not bad but there are better options and after HWM and GR's reworks hell even Occultist's glow up I think she could be one of the most fun characters in the game. After her the other character I wanted upgraded is probably Runaway who is still kind of a wreck rn. She has really sensitive positioning and the lack of fire synergies really hurt her especially since Crusader only needs a little bit of fire on Aggressor to do what he needs and Plague Doctor can easily provide that. Although seeing how RH decided to balance GR and HWM a Jester rework would be welcome because rn he's really strong but doesn't have many fun paths; virt is just French Vanilla jester, Soloist is fine, and Intermezzo is kinda bad. But I could also see any Jester flexibility buffs as what takes him from S tier to God tier in a single patch.

Sharpshot Double Tap is pretty damn cool. Hoping to see them, adjust Hellion and Vestal next.

I hope they rework Hellion next. Feels like she does need it with currently one somewhat boring damage path, a meme bleed path and an interesting but weak tank path.

Wow, some people are really upset about this update... So, my thoughts after watching: - Stat manipulation on paths is going away. This is good. This is what made some paths so much better than others. Can't wait for Hellion to get the same treatment, she's the one that needs path rebalance the most right now imo. - Thrown Dagger seems to have gotten buffed across all paths. Good, this will make it compete better with Poison Dart. - Repartee doesn't require stealth to activate now, that's very good. (EDIT: That was changed in an earlier patch and I just didn't notice, oops.) - GR's kit seems to have gotten a lot more complex overall - not sure if this is a good change, considering she's one of the starter heroes. Although I suppose the tried and true strategy of darts and... darts? still holds up, so maybe it's fine. - Each of the paths seem to be very playable, but I'll be reserving judgment until I've had time to play all of them. - TAKE AIM CRIPPLED YESSS SAY GOODBYE TO TAKE AIM SPAM BOIS - In all seriousness, though, Take Aim still has value, it's just much less of an auto-press than before. Btw, Shuff, you seem to have missed that mastering TA reduces the cooldown from 3 to 2. - Some of the changes to Highwayman feel kind of awkward to me, I'm not sure how to explain it. It's like some skills are ever so slightly off from what they should be, like some sort of design uncanny valley. Glad to see they gave him new combo options, though, I've been wanting more combo generation on heroes for a while. - Base Grapeshot Blast is now trash instead of utter trash, yay. - I love the Sharpshot version of Double Tap, but I wish it was like that by default. The Wanderer version feels so disappointing in comparison. - I like what they did with Rogue. It's much more flexible and versatile now, whereas before it was just Duelist & PBS: the Path. - I'm excited to try out the new Sharpshot. It may have been nerfed, but it can actually do interesting things now. It was so boring to play before. - Yellowhand, uhh... I guess it's a debuff path now? I don't know, I'm not sold on the changes there. I'm gonna need some time to play with it. - I'm not sure about the trinket changes, it's kind of hard for me to wrap my head around them without actually having them in game. I liked the old Stiff Drink, though, a bit sad to see it's gone. (EDIT: Stealing that ridiculous regen 10 from the cultists sounds very, very appealing.) - I wish I could actually run any of the flames. So far, every time I've attempted them has ended in a miserable failure. That said, the change to Corpse Light will hopefully make it much less of a pain to deal with. From the new ones, Killer's Glow and Star of the Chosen seem interesting, particularly the latter with its duel mechanic. The Bastard's Beacon is pure evil, though. Ordainment is already painful enough on minibosses, Lair bosses are going to scale sky-high. I don't even know what kind of team you'd have to have to handle that. - Magnesium Rain cooldown going up is something I'm NOT happy with. It makes PD a much less viable partner for Aggressor Crusader, and it's not like Magnesium Rain needed a nerf. It was fine as it was before. - The Bumper Crop trophy is now much riskier to use. Then again, I never fight the Harvest Child anyway, so I don't really care. Overall, this is a welcome change, I can't wait to play it for myself. I wonder how long we're going to have to wait for the next one - because this sure as hell isn't the end.

At the bottom of the patch notes they say the icons for yhe infernal flames are temporary. So hopefully we get some differences between them soon 🙏

Can’t wait for them to do hellion for rebalancing paths so break through can be viable again

Feeling like venomdrop on grave is kinda underwhelming because of the reliance on shadow fade. You have to use a turn on shadow fade and a turn on lunge to get her back into position for fade. The blight just doesn't stick reliably.

I am glad to see it. I now patiently await for the Vestal adjustments.

they are cooking so hard thank you red hook videogame

I think you missed this, The Fragile Flame actually has randomized effects, so it's not THAT bad.

Im gonna miss the stiff drink + foreclosure notice shenanigans on venomdrop but maaan the nightsworn changes r gonna be fun. omg and yellowhand finally useable in rank 1

It is a bit weird base version of Double Cross on Wanderer is just worse than the version on Yellowhand, but then the upgraded version do compete with each other. I say the base version of DC on Wanderer should have a chance to apply combo to remain competitive, maybe a 50% chance

Monarch Leper should truly honor his name by being a rank 4 tank.

Two new characters already, you bless us red hook

Bastards Beacon Grandslam let's go!

Yellowhand changes probably mean that they will get rid of innate dot and debuff piercing on paths, so you'll have to work for it. It is great, but it makes him feel kinda weird at the moment. He's like a support unit for the team that doesn't exist yet.

Reworked GR and HWM path and build videos hopefully incoming :)

If i go to beta branch and start spamming "please redhook allow us to make teams with multiple of same heroes.", will it happen any sooner? I can even send it from multiple accounts. XD

now give every character a howling end-like ability

Fragile flame changes each time you get to the first inn. Its randomized.

Awesome stuff. You mean awesome shuff. Keep up the great content.

But does double tap use 2 crit tokens? Because if it does, that's a bit of a deal breaker

The Rogue bias is real. Really cool to see so much new content to play with though

I know its a lot of changes to cover but a its bit unfortunate that imo the greatest buffs to Rogue/Yellowhand went mostly unaddressed. One of the main things that was holding the two back was the inability to hit anything beyond ranks 1/2 with any other move than Duelist's Advance. For several bosses the paths would be near useless and in regions like Tangle not being able to ever hit drummers/arbalests/bishops with your damage dealer but being forced to attack a knight with blocks and ripostes just sucked. Rogue is now able to hit rank 3 with grapeshot aswell, and increased Riposte damage does help a bit with backline nuke. Also having knockback 2 instead of 1 on PBS is huge. Knockbacking enemy in R1 by 1 is useless about 90% of the time since most monster rank 1 abilities can be used from rank 2 aswell. Meanwhile knockback 2 means most enemies will be forced to waste a turn to reposition. It seems especially powerful against the evangelists that use a turn setting up a crit and now can be forced to waste it by pushing them to r3 (or you just steal it with Highway Robbery from R1. As for Yellowhand, Wicked Slice being usable against rank 3 is big for reasons covered in the first paragraph. No longer dead weight on librarian. Tangle is doable. Can deal with the evolving pods in shroud. Can damage leviathan while hand is up. Etc.

Love the changes Im looking forward to other charracters too

The change that I dislike is the change to the general dream where the immobilize is only 5 turns

Another update so quick? I love Redhook.

take aim was gutted man. thats so sad

Bastard beacon grand slam when?

Hey where do I find the link to the darkest dungeon discord

Is it just me or is Antiquarian super rare? I've played this game for 150 hours and I haven't seen her once. I hope Redhook can increase her spawn rate more among the Pillagers. Making Antiquarian in to a more fully fledged mini-boss like the warlord would be really nice. Give her a little intro cinematic and increase her health a little bit.

the madlads did it, they actually nerfed Pick to the Face as predicted, kinda, not really, -maximum damage +CRIT do be the way tho

Now is leper and vestal turn

Love red hook can I get an amen

You forgot to look at the new Boss trophies!

Clicking and subscribing cause of thumbnail tbh.

They should have been doing this from the begining instead of mucking around with hero paths but late is better than never i guess

How to access this with epic?

With take aim pls you have perma crit ok the next two attacks so wanderer hwm is now take aim + double tap bot, in addition to better weacked slice

They really messed up rogue. I really enjoyed point blank how it was. Now it’s pretty much useless.

This is like houndmaster nerf back in 2016 but more painful. Dismas recieved low blow indeed. Still nerf was needed.

THE SHARPSHOT IS NOTVIABLEEEEEEEE

they nerfed sharpshot!?!?!?!?!?!??!!??!? i guess highwayman is the best path now!!!!!

Console release when?? 😔😭

Sharpshot seems buffed if anything. What did he lose other than strength tokens on grapeshot? Easy loss for all the other buffs. Wicked slice on yellowhand got more nerfs than all of Sharpshot which BAFFLES me. Same with PBS on Rogue. Yellowhand seems absolute trash.