Same bro but I'm watching at 3:20 am 😂

Cuz you maybe a nerd like others

Time to get an OG Xbox :P

3:50 AM here, help me🫠

Bro that's scary literally the video that pops up to me at 3:30 am 😭💀

yeah, me too on both counts. I don't know why one would want to do this. Wouldn't it possibly break some games that are expecting a certain speed? Or would it just make frame rates smoother? I have to think also that the video chipset might play a part in limiting the effectiveness of a processor upgrade, too. From what I understand it's basically a GeForce 3.

You could head over to: *Modern Vintage Gamer* And search his videos for: *The Most Powerful Original Xbox - FriendTech DreamX 1480 - Teardown, Games, Emulators and More*

Emulators benefit greatly from the CPU upgrade. As well as some games which are possibly CPU limited.

There are quite a few videos showing the benefits of this upgrade.

You can run pretty much everything smoother on upgraded cpu because of emulators benefits from the faster cpu better. And speaking of emulators, with tons of other mods you can play most of the games at 720p and some even at 900p or 1080p if you really push this old monster that far. This CPU upgrade does not give you a better fps ( just a little bit ) but it gives you a whole new graphics experience because of the faster CPU so you can crank the details way up than befor

Yeah I was thinking why solder the CPU if you have to solder the socket? Might as well make it a proper PGA socket

Given that the profile would only be raised maybe something like a single millimeter, if that, I really don't see why not just add a socket.

Exactly, this is a super clunky way of doing a CPU swap.

Honestly, in so many ways, you could say this of so many BGA reflows. Some don't have the clearance, but the ones that do - socket the world. Ofc, I say that, but don't put it into practice much - though yeah, I really need to when I start doing this kind of stuff again, for myself. It's such hot, nasty, sticky work - you just don't want to have to do it again, lol. Though, I'm sure some enjoy it.

A few have tried reflowing a socket recently but it seems just as difficult as this method, maybe one day someone will figure out properly flowing the socket onto the interposer without it melting or misaligning, but right now this is the only way.

Glad you enjoyed it

Thanks!

Much appreciated!

Thanks!

This upgrade is pretty old school. Performance with Linux is pretty good, but improvement for game performance is negligible at best. It actually increases instability with games. There was also a 128mb memory upgrade we would do that would give some games minor improvement, but nothing to write home about. It was originally called Dream-X.

Pretty much what @piratelechuck1911 mentioned, it helps with running emulators or homebrew, but for most games, they will be broken and you'll have to patch them to have htem run properly

i always complained this about the cpu overheat of the ps3 and they told me it will cost a fortune, there you see a guy doing it now.

Sure thing, mine is quite old as of now too, but its this: www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832861917558.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.25.48d918024lavaN&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt You could probably get one cheaper with less accessories and such, I just didn't have anything prior to this one

That's what I was thinking 🤔

Clearance might've been an issue. (Just eyeballing it)

Because you would still have to solder the socket - and there's no other CPU you can install.

Maybe sockets aren't no more available ?

@@JohnnyWednesday Yeah but it'd be cooler

When are you going to do game benchmarks on this thing

Nice joke. Xbots are the worst

PS2 killed it over 20 years ago 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

im pretty sure mine died at this point, don't have the cables to test it. i should open it lol

@@MichaelM28 Cringe

@@zk0rned Cry

@@MichaelM28 I'm not the one that's console warring for a nearly 30 year old device LOL

I try my best not to!

Besides emulation and homebrew, not much to be honest, you can't turn up the settings, framerate and the graphics of the games like on a PC. And it won't even run games without patches. The Pentium 3 Tualatin 1.4 is overkill for the Xbox, better to just put it into a Socket 370 build with something like a Geforce FX card. A 1ghz P3 or Celeron is plenty good for the OG Xbox. But it still is a very impressive mod. BGA mods of any kind involve some serious dedication.

yeah there's not getting around Replacing the Capacitors in an Original Xbox even if they're not Puffed you're heavily advised to replace them do to their penchant for leaking and damaging the board.

@@ulasht1nice punctuation.

Hahaha, I replace all caps after the rework, just didn't have that in the video!

More FPS on homebrew and emulators. Makes native games kinda wonky, you have to patch them or else some run super fast or some just break all together.

@@Techbabblers”super fast”? What? How would upgrading the processor make it worse? What do you mean “super fast” wouldn’t that be a good thing for better fps? Why would you wanna patch that.

Any Socket 370 Pentium 3 with 133Mhz FSB will work

Too fast buddy. You dont know basic things like what you refer as "vram" is on this just ram which were shared with gpu and cpu same time

GPU upgrades might be near impossible on this system due to how memory works. Basically any console you run into will use a "shared memory between CPU and GPU" scenario. Also the "VRAM size" you're referring to is the system's memory.

The xbox gpu is better than a Geforce3 Ti 🤦‍♂its a GF4 ti4400 Xbox is a NFORCE integrated GPU actually... and the NV2A is a Geforce4 you dont need any better, just overclock it, the XBOX gpu overclocked at 275mhz is stable and its a good boost, the bottleneck is not the GPU is the crap 733mhz cpu, the box was designed for 1ghz one but lntel scammed MS the other cpu was a 1ghz amd.

hahaha!

That is literally nothing.

@@AgentLazarus It is literally failed and needs to be replaced. You can see it is also pushing up off the board from the rubber plug in the bottom being forced out. Capacitors don't have an allowance for creating internal pressure and continuing to operate within original design specs. If they show signs of internal pressure build up, they need to be replaced, no matter how slight.

@@GGigabiteM The capacitor is fine. Tune down your autism.

@@GGigabiteM the only thing failed here is your brain. Severely crippled and you're factually wrong.

is that the one he says he's going to replace towards the end of the video? or one of the other tall capacitors he also says he's going to replace?

Well without using something like a Stellar, most games by default either run super fast or straight up break. The 1.4Ghz upgrade is more beneficial to things like homebrew and media playback

Yes. The original xbox used a pentium 3 cpu, a nvdia nforce chipset and the equivalent of a gforce 2 gpu.

There is a program to patch the games for the new CPU speed, and obviously the Xbox can handle tualating, xbox kernel is almost windowsXP based... or better to say, win XP had the modifications created on the Xbox kernel

here you go: github.com/ACE-AU/OG-Xbox-CPU-GPU-Heatsink-brackets-for-Franks-Interposer

@@Techbabblers thank you!

You have to cut a cap in the HDD tray and use a 3D printed filler piece glued in the top since the heatsink is now sitting higher than the OG CPU. You can also cut down a few MM from each fin on the heatsink, which would acheive the same result. From testing, running fans ~50% after a game is about 55C on the CPU.

Wish it wasthat easy :-(

agree. I see it too. Top is starting to bulge

I didn't try but I have heard that it's possible!

Do you do these as a service at all? 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

Yeah, gotta crank them up on the OGX!

There is a way to overclock the PlayStation 2 but not this high of course

i was about to comment why didnt they install a Socket into the interposer adapter.

@@CaelThunderwing a socket mod would b cool

Yeah so with the 1400MHz CPU, the games will basically run twice as fast, some won't even run at all. You can either patch each game to run at retail or use Project Stellar which does the patching on the fly so games can run properly.

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In standard resolution games, not really. The main use case is running games in hd resolutions, or emulators and video playback capabilities. The xbox is easily softmodded with a hacked save, then you can upgrade the hard drive and fill it with emulators for stuff up to n64, and fill it with SD movies also. The cpu is a 733mhz celeron. Its the most powerful cpu of the consoles in that generation and the only x86 one (ps2 and gamecube and DC were mips/powerpc/risc). This meant once the console was hacked, making homebrew for it was easy as x86 was the standard.Unlike risc/powerpc. Microsoft enabled the console to run games to run at hd resolutions if the devs chose. So a decent chunk of devs enabled 720p or 1080i in their games if you have the hd component cables and either an ntsc console, or a softmodded/chipped pal one However, this of course requires more precessing power , rendering at higher resolutions. So you can get slowdown /lower fps when doing so. When you upgrade the cpu to either 1ghz or 1.4ghz version , you can get fan patches for the games that enable them to take advantage of the extra cpu speed, reducing slowdown to some extent. It all depends on how the game is coded tbh. Some games are more gpu limited s, some cpu limited. At hd most are cpu limited to some degree though. The other area people upgrade is the ram. The xbox has the pads on the board for an extra 64mb of ram on top of the standard 64mb. I beleive this originates from the dev kits being 128mb, so they just made one model of board and added the extra ram for devkits. Again, patches exist to take advantage of it. Emulators and homebrew games running on xbox massively beenfit from the extra cpu speed and extra ram, as expected. (but tbh these days, its questionable if you should be using such a set up for emulation, its convenient but not exactly accurate and perfect emulation. but its full speed in most stuff up to 16bit. some psx stuff works ok ish, most psx stuff has some issues though. N64 works actuallty pretty great as there was a coding competition and the guys that finished 1st and 2nd combined their efforts to create an awesome n64 emulator for the hardware that utitlises a paging file system on the hardrive to overcome the ram size limits) The various homebrew ports to the system perform far better with upgraded cpu and ram, such as Killer Instinct Arcade, Quake 1 and 2, etc. And lastly movie playback, the ogxbox homebrew scene is where the Kodi software and Plex originated. XBMC as it was originally called. Xbox media center. People would load up their xbox with tons of movie files files and have a media center xbox. Was common. But again, the standard hardware strrggles to run stuff in HD. You can just about get 720p in certain codecs at very low bitrates to run good enough to be watchable for animated stuff, only dorpping the odd frame. SD stuff works fine. To get better performance in movie fiie playback, you need the extra cpu speed . Then you can run better bitrate 720p stuff. Stil not that high though and again, no one really uses xbox that way anymore. Mostly people fill them with ogxbox games and emulators for the older systems and leave it at that. We have netflix and android sticks and smart tvs and consoles and obviously pcs that do movie playback far better these days. Although, if you have it connected to a crt, it can stil be useful as an sd movie media center. There was actually one company that sold these cpu and ram upgraded xboxes when xboxs were stil lat retail, pre modded as a new system. Friendtech xboxs.

The OS is a compressed kernel, you can run an Xbox kernel, or a Linux bootloader. The dashboards and menus/programs etc are all Xbox apps. They designed it to where a lot of what we’d consider OS centric libraries are embedded in the application itself.

You could make a good amount per CPU for sure

this mod was intended for modded xboxes running emulators more then anything back then. though it does decrease load times in a few games, and games with abit of lag like most of the need for speed games and half life 2. really isn't necessary anymore as even cheap android tv boxes can run most emulators flawlessly..

With that mod you can run all games at good framerate on 720p, or 720p video at good framerate too... without cpu upgrade you can but very low fps, imagine playing KOTOR or Half-Life2 at 720p, yes original xbox just need a better CPU to be a 720p capable console.

@@SargentoDuke lool

@@McLeonVP original Xbox can run some games at 720p with no problem just with 128mb ram... but with 1.4ghz Cpu you can run all... Morrowind or Kotor on 720p looks better than on XBOX 360... but framerate drops to 5fps on open maps and are unplayable, you need at least 1ghz cpu to move 720p games and VIDEO/youtube on the original xbox... and 1.4ghz to move them perfectly! Remember 1.4ghz pentium 3 ecuals to a 2.8ghz pentium 4 (or a 1.4ghz Core2solo, as Core technology was defeloped from Mobile Pentium 3 tualatins). I had the interposer and a 1.4ghz cpu but i had not the skill to do it so the 1ghz pentium 3 direct-soldered is the only i can had. But playing original Xbox games at native 720p is AWESOME

@@SargentoDuke 128mb ram? the ps3 only haves 512 and the ps2 64mb i think

Ya he mentioned it in the video and says he's gonna replace it

All the caps were replaced at the end!

P3 Celeron@1300 I think, not tualatin 1.4

Any one of these: SL5XL 1400Mhz 512Kb SL6BY 1400Mhz 512Kb SL5VX 1333Mhz 256Kb SL6BZ 1333Mhz 256Kb SL5LW 1266Mhz 512Kb SL5VX 1200Mhz 256Kb

Thanks that's good info, I appreciate it.

Would have to create a whole interposer and even then it probably wouldn't work since it isn't in the same family as the OG CPU.

@@Techbabblers the lithography of the first generation of core 2 duo was just basically a 2 core pentium 3. Do you know if the CMOS/BIOS on the OG xbox is locked to the family name lithography or does that CMOs/BIOS recognizeable by input/output instruction, versus family lithography