She Reveals What The Irish Catholic Church Did To Her Family

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David Hoffman

David Hoffman

Күн бұрын

Mona contacted me because she was ready to talk about what happened to her and her family. She is committed to helping others who have had similar experiences, to overcome them and thrive.
The issue of sexual abuse within the Catholic Church, particularly in Ireland, has been a significant and distressing concern throughout the late 20th century and into the 21st century. This complex issue has evolved over decades, involving widespread allegations, investigations, and substantial reforms within the Church.
The public began to become aware of sexual abuse scandals within the Catholic Church in the 1980s and 1990s. These revelations showed that priests and other Church officials had committed abuse, and that there had been systematic efforts by the Church hierarchy to cover up such incidents. The scale of abuse was vast, involving a large number of victims over several decades.
Ireland in particular, has been one of the countries most affected by these scandals. Reports and investigations in Ireland revealed that sexual abuse was rampant in various institutions, including schools and orphanages run by Catholic religious orders.
The Ryan Report (2009): Officially known as the Report of the Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse, it documented widespread physical and sexual abuse in Irish institutions for children.
The Murphy Report (2009): Focused specifically on the Archdiocese of Dublin, this report exposed how Church leaders protected abusive priests and how state authorities failed to hold the Church accountable.
These reports led to public outrage and prompted legal reforms in Ireland. The government has taken steps to reduce the Church's influence in public institutions, particularly in education and health sectors.
The Vatican has implemented new policies to handle accusations of sexual abuse more transparently and to protect minors including:
The establishment of norms to streamline the processes for dealing with accusations against clergy. The requirement for dioceses around the world to set up systems for reporting abuse. Efforts to hold bishops and religious superiors accountable if they fail to deal with abuse cases properly.
There still lacks a universally mandatory reporting law within the Church to civil authorities.
Some accused clergy have been moved to different parishes or countries rather than being removed from ministry or handed over to civil authorities.
There is ongoing concern about transparency and the willingness of the Church to fully admit to past wrongdoings.
Historically, the Catholic Church's handling of priests who committed sexual abuse was characterized by secrecy and a lack of transparency. In many cases, accused priests were moved to different parishes or sent to treatment facilities rather than facing criminal prosecution. This approach was often justified under the guise of protecting the Church's reputation, but it led to widespread criticism and further victimization as abusive priests continued to have access to children.
As the scope of the abuse came to light, particularly through high-profile cases and investigative reports in the early 2000s, the Church was compelled to change its approach:
Zero Tolerance Policy: In 2002, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops adopted the "Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People," which established a zero-tolerance policy regarding sexual abuse. Under this policy, any credible allegation of sexual abuse results in the immediate removal of the accused priest from ministry.
The Church has revised its canon law to make the process of dismissing a priest from the clerical state more streamlined for cases involving sexual abuse. Directives have been issued to dioceses worldwide to establish clear guidelines for protecting minors and vulnerable adults.
There is a mandate for dioceses to report allegations of sexual abuse to civil authorities where laws require it, and to cooperate with law enforcement in investigations.
Pope Francis has taken steps, such as abolishing the "pontifical secrecy" rule in cases of sexual abuse, allowing for greater transparency in the handling of reports. He also established a tribunal for judging bishops accused of negligence or cover-up in handling abuse cases.
Mona has written extensively about her abuse as part of her recovery work. Her first book, From Hurt to Healing, was a memoir of the abuse and is a difficult read. However it has offered affirmation to many other victims who read their own story in her words.
Mona's second book, Traces of Hope, offers reflections and insights into healing from the trauma of suffering and loss in its forms. See Author page for Mona Villarrubia on Amazon.
www.amazon.com/stores/Mona%20...
Thank you Mona for your courage in doing this interview with me. I hope that it helps many.
David Hoffman filmmaker

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@MD-rz7dn
@MD-rz7dn Ай бұрын
Abused were told, to accuse a priest was to accuse GOD and would mean eternal hell. To support evil is evil.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Indeed. They put the fear of God into people. Literally.
@msgoody2shoes959
@msgoody2shoes959 Ай бұрын
Catholic men nearly all are involved in sex trafficking and drugs. If you’re Catholic, your dad, b//f, neighbor, BIL, husband, priest has drugged and trafficked or raped you. Look for under eye bags, sign of you, a child, or dog trying to wake up while being assaulted
@tombob671
@tombob671 Ай бұрын
Truth is eternal and true.😊
@karenh2890
@karenh2890 Ай бұрын
A very intelligent lady. One thing I never believed growing up in the Catholic church was that priests were God-like. My uncle was a Catholic priest, and I'll leave it at that.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
That sounds ominous. If you want to share privately let me know.
@tombob671
@tombob671 Ай бұрын
The Bible says we all have sinned. All includes everyone
@user-uc1go4io9c
@user-uc1go4io9c Ай бұрын
@@Mona-sk9bmwho are you to ask this of a stranger. Get manners & integrity.
@staceyhorne649
@staceyhorne649 Ай бұрын
​@@user-uc1go4io9c Mona is lady speaking in this video...I see nothing wrong with suggestion
@user-uc1go4io9c
@user-uc1go4io9c Ай бұрын
Born in 1958. Have been abused when younger at CCD classes. Beaten w rulers, admonished/verbally abused…. sat in corners on a stool facing the wall with a piece of gum on my nose… Saw everyone get hit & hurt. Don’t know what went on - behind closed doors ~ but we all know what might (probably) have - did. Later in life, I witnessed abuse when teaching at a catholic school. You better believe I reported the abuse at the school - to the principal. NOTHING WAS DONE though. The principal was a nun. 🤬 It’s absolutely DISGUSTING. SINFUL. CRIMINAL. It needs to come to an END.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
You're right. In the Society of those abused by priests (SNAP) there are separate support groups for victims of nuns.
@RiahWillow
@RiahWillow Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. Many of us feel our stories haven’t been heard. Having courageous people like you who speak up help all of us heal. I was a Boston victim.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment. I am sad that we share this.
@m_d1905
@m_d1905 Ай бұрын
​@@Mona-sk9bm Thank you for your story. These types of abuse are difficult because you don't know who you trust. All the best to you.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
I grew up being told to trust priests implicitly. I don't think parents should ever tell children that, about priests or anyone in authority.
@2TSB222
@2TSB222 Ай бұрын
Yes, abuse’s need to be brought to light.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
They do. Again and again.
@vaquera9368
@vaquera9368 Ай бұрын
They are evil and wicked! I can’t even imagine what this family went through.
@AKAHeatherJoy
@AKAHeatherJoy Ай бұрын
I was the oldest of 4 and I experienced a lot of psychological abuse, courtesy of my own mother. Number 2 and number 3 told me I was full of it and that it never happened. However, number 4 experienced the same thing I did. It's very true that siblings can grow up in the same house but have very different experiences.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching. And at least we can affirm that reality for each other: each child lives their own story and does not know what their siblings are necessarily living with. So many levels of secrets. I'm so sad for you. I hope you have found support.
@pantherzzz111
@pantherzzz111 Ай бұрын
In abusive families, each sibling can automatically go into survival mode, it’s not a conscious decision, and look out for themselves only. They will be oblivious to what happens to the other.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
That makes sense.
@tesscastro2652
@tesscastro2652 Ай бұрын
Many thanks to Mon and David for featuring this subject today... it needs to be spread. You are a source of strength for many- Both of You 😊❤
@wowthatwasit
@wowthatwasit Ай бұрын
If you are doing evil things, especially continuously, then you are evil.
@chito127
@chito127 Ай бұрын
mental illness, too.
@NocturnalMissSo
@NocturnalMissSo Ай бұрын
Multiple generations of the same family being abused... 😤 So disgusting. Thank you for sharing your story.
@JEdwarrd
@JEdwarrd Ай бұрын
U gotta wonder what is the motivation behind joining the priesthood, besides the usual tag line of "serving god", It's a prefect breeding ground for predators as their is no religious context to discuss darker elements of abuse, praying the abuse away doesn't work, and the system wilfully supports silence. The silence & shame is what lead to this families repeated trauma.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching. The multiple generational abuse is not uncommon but it isn't spoken of much. And the cooperation between priest abusers is also not addressed. But, again, I think it was widespread.
@m_d1905
@m_d1905 Ай бұрын
​@@JEdwarrd Sadly any profession can harbor predators. Wherever their victims are, they will be. Priests, teachers, doctors, wherever they can access their prey. It's so sad.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
And families too, unfortunately.
@JEdwarrd
@JEdwarrd Ай бұрын
@@m_d1905 So true, any profession or social group where they can mask their true intentions.... However religious abuse is very insidious & banks on accepted ignorance by parishioners. The case of Jimmy Savile is a great, but horrific example. He used pop culture & religion to mask his abusive & criminal behaviour. The Catholic Church will not rescind is papal knighthood. Very curious. This after all his crimes have come out, in conjunction with the church being exposed for what it is.
@johnjoeflanagan
@johnjoeflanagan Ай бұрын
Great interview and skilful interviewer who allows Mona the space to tell her story. Well done.
@drewpall2598
@drewpall2598 Ай бұрын
Thanks, you Mona for sharing your story and committed to helping others who been through the same ordeal you been through. I know it hard to speak out about and organization that is deem by the general public as a safe place that you can have trust in. I'm glad that Mona has found some good things still associated with the church of her choice. Have a blessed week ahead David and friends. 😊✌🧡🎆
@thearmchairjournalist566
@thearmchairjournalist566 Ай бұрын
Those people should be prosecuted if they are still alive, no matter how old they are or how long ago it was! I too was abused as a child and many of my families friends didn’t believe me until years later when another girl came forward and told about her abuse from the same man! Please believe people who say they have been abused 😢
@bethmackins2433
@bethmackins2433 Ай бұрын
yes they are evil, no other word would describe adults that do things to children.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
And the evil they do has so many wide reaching ramifications in the lives of their victims.
@pantherzzz111
@pantherzzz111 Ай бұрын
One of the biggest problems, is getting people to realise how evil people can be.
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN Ай бұрын
Conservative societies always have rampant child abuse happening that the unaffected have absolutely no clue about, because they universally have this attitude that even to speak of it, to repeat an accusation, etc., to ruin someone's reputation with something so ugly, that that is a greater sin, than the abuse itself. Which is absolutely insane. But here in the US, find any people who bounced around in the foster care system, any time before around 1980... that too was a place where a shocking percentage of the foster parents were there to prey on kids, and kids were never believed, ever. The evil done ripples through generations, too in ways other than just repeating cycles of abuse. For example how the babies of all apes, including humans, do something called limbic imprinting... during the time that they're nursing, infants have a psychic bond with the mother, and their brain's alarm system will grow to match the tone of their mother's. And this now becomes this new person's baseline level of anxiety, for their entire life. So if the mother is still living with the anxiety of having been abused, her baby now inherits that, and it's not anything that can easily be worked through or changed... they'll carry that echo of their mother's abuse with them, probably forever
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
@@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN I understand that idea of carrying the echo of abuse. I have always felt that my older son was my emotional barometer...he seemed to feel my anxiety in a personal way. Very sad.
@DB-qw6xq
@DB-qw6xq Ай бұрын
Sadly, paedophiles got into the Church's ranks (as they clearly did in other institutions), and on another disasterous road certain bishops decided to put the Church's reputation ahead of justice for the abused. Speaking as a Catholic, it is an extremely upsetting time for those who were abused of course, but these crimes do not reflect the hugely large majority of Catholics who thoroughly despise those who have abused and those who protected the abusers. Please don't allow this trajedy to cloud your understanding of the Church, we are kind people and now of course there are extremely strick safeguarding guidlines and practices, including vetting those who apply to become a priest etc.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
It is certainly true that abusers can be found in all religious institutions and other organizations dedicated to youth, such as the Boy Scouts. It is also true that the great majority of Catholics and priests are innocent of these crimes. What is also sadly true is that those in charge in dioceses, bishops and archbishops, have relied on the advice of lawyers and as a result have been led to lie to victims about the existence of other testimony against their abuser, hide abusers records, and petition against the extension of statute of limitations for child abuse. I know this all personally and have friends in the survivor community who have shared similar experiences. The Catholic Church should be better than this. On the other hand I don't think victims need to become wealthy on the basis of abuse claims. A better path would be to offer to pay for independent therapy (not from anyone working for, or answerable to, the church), medication and mental health hospitalization costs. Sadly, abuse victims in the past got little or no response and their anger is fueling the massive lawsuits. Also sad is the fact that the law firms who have offered coverage to the church have not been paying the claims, leaving the dioceses to find the funds elsewhere. I don't understand how that has happened. There is a lot I don't understand. But, as I say in my interview, the Catholic community has been the source of many blessings in my life...my education from grammar school through graduate school, the community in which I met my husband, my career for 27 years as a religious educator, and so many wonderful, caring individuals, including some priests and religious sisters with whom I have worked.
@glof2553
@glof2553 Ай бұрын
I think the Catholic hierarchy dropped the ball (to say the very least) most in Ireland. Deeply sad what happened to many people there.
@m_d1905
@m_d1905 Ай бұрын
It's pretty big here in the US as well. Big coverups.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
My abusers were both sent to England by their superiors even though, in one case the priest and his biological brother were known to be repeat abusers, both members of the Montford Missionaries. One of them was eventually brought to trial and convicted. A rarity.
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN Ай бұрын
It is something that has happened and continues to happen anywhere the power structures allow for it. Thankfully today, while we hear about it happening so much, the fact that we do hear about it is a function of a system that doesn't tolerate it, it's almost a paradox, because in the places it's happening wholesale, it's not being spoken about publicly at all. It's like when people talk about how Hollywood has something wrong with it, for so much child abuse to happen there... it is just a place, like any other, with people, like all others. But they have power structures that allow abusers to abuse with near-impunity. A casting director who is tempted is likely to calculate that there's a near-zero chance of facing consequences.... and make a different choice than they would if they were, say, a school teacher in New York, where the victim is likely to speak, and them simply saying something would bring unimaginable heat down. And those differences in the power structures are the difference between a man who maybe feels and resists an evil temptation, and a man who is tempted, abuses, establishes that as a behavior he now does, creates a compulsion, and creates untold human misery, destroying his own soul to boot
@LittleGrayMouse
@LittleGrayMouse Ай бұрын
My son's father was abused and then sold by a Catholic church in Mexico. He didn't even know this was a bad thing. He just knew he didn't have parents so he was sent to the orphanage. Instead of putting him through school and caring for him he was sent out to work at age six loading bricks in wheelbarrows and if he was slow he was beaten. If he got sick he was beaten. They let him have food and a place to sleep as long as he worked, but at age 10 he was sold to be a houseboy in Cancun. The Catholic church owns the rights to their water and they force people to work for them for a full year to have access to water on their OWN LAND because the water itself is owned by the church. If you don't work for them you have to purchase water at a much higher rate. They expect everyone in that parish to contribute food from their crops too.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
This sounds horrendous and sadly believable. The Nazareth House sisters used unmarried pregnant girls as basically slave labor and sold their babies often. Just awful what your son's father went through.
@meancookie89
@meancookie89 Ай бұрын
That’s slavery
@charliemanson4808
@charliemanson4808 Ай бұрын
In the 1970's My Catholic step father moved me from a church of Scotland school when a member of staff noticed I was bleeding and sent me home with a note to my parents. He moved me, a non Catholic boy of 7 into the Catholic school where his fellow abuser was the priest. The priest, many years later.was sent to a home on one of the Scottish islands, "healed" and I believe he was sent to south America to work on a mission. I have seen no good in the Catholic church. I'm proud to have never been christened or blessed into any religion.
@joan-lisa-smith
@joan-lisa-smith Ай бұрын
I'm sorry this happened to you x I can only imagine how many boys he abused in South America too. Poor kids.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
So many abuser/criminal priests supporting each other, covering for each other.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Your story is so tragic. You were so vulnerable. You deserved to be protected. So many priests after "treatment" were sent to other states or countries, often to the poorest areas because the poor had less power and were less likely to speak against the church.
@BC99
@BC99 Ай бұрын
I’m glad Mona was able to find her way through this terrible situation. It’s always good to see Irish people and people of Irish descent breaking the destructive cultural tradition of keeping silent on the awful things that have happened to them.
@M4TCH3SM4L0N3
@M4TCH3SM4L0N3 Ай бұрын
It is horrifying, and I am sorry for all who have had this kind of experience with the church. The comments are heartbreaking. My own experience with the church could not be more different, but I have seen how it can be used by evil as a shield, and it is terrible. It doesn't cause me to lose faith, but I certainly don't blame anyone for whom it does. As for the abusers and those who failed to hold them to justice and protect the vulnerable, I can only refer to the millstone. "It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble." Luke 17:2 (NIV) Note: many, if not most translations interpret this as "cause one of these little ones to sin," but the Greek word used was skandalon, meaning "to entrap, i.e. Trip up (transitively) or entice to sin, apostasy, or displeasure." Based on the number of people who have left the church for this reason, I think it's safe to say that those responsible have caused perhaps the greatest scandal (temptation to apostasy) in the history of Christianity. Again, I am so sorry to everyone here who has been hurt directly and indirectly by this horror, and I pray that the church will learn to take accountability for its part. Either way, I still cannot imagine my world without it, no matter how tarnished it is by the men who live in it.
@kathleenferguson3296
@kathleenferguson3296 Ай бұрын
You have the Greek. Not many of us study Greek and Latin, anymore. I can read my medical charts better than my young doctors can.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Thank you for your response. I can no longer be an active Catholic. I tried for a long while. I was a religion teacher and music minister for 27 years. But eventually I couldn't support the cover ups and lies. I couldn't in all honesty tell my students the church was committed to change. It broke my heart to leave my career and my church. But as I became engaged in writing and in therapy I had too many panic attacks when I would see a priest. Even just a man wearing all black is triggering. But I have a faith community - the United Church of Christ. My first minister was a woman. That helped incredibly.
@alexis-n.a
@alexis-n.a 24 күн бұрын
An amazing discussion. Thank you so much for showing this conversation. I am so proud of Mona’s introspective skills. Mona, you are a beautiful and strong woman. I appreciate your communicative ability on this topic so much.
@johneli495
@johneli495 Ай бұрын
The moment you refer to a religious worker as "father" the troubles will begin. Nothing good comes from putting a person on a pedestal like that. Jesus warned against it. Spiritually speaking it's a term only to be used in regards to God
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
You have a point there.
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN Ай бұрын
I think we have long needed a new church for a new world, new people, new challenges, new levels of understanding. The creation of churches has historically been linked to a cycle of civilizations growing and dying and being made new, with the creation of a new church being a part of that rolling process. Modern civilizations are more robust than they ever were in the past, they simply absorb all the corruption that used to be their death sentence in the past, and the decay of a dying civilization has always been the fertilizer in which a new church grew We have old churches made for long dead people in long dead times, they don't mesh with our current best understanding of the universe, nor offer answers to the questions people have today...
@Flatfishfever96
@Flatfishfever96 Ай бұрын
A very wise Lady in understanding truth. The balance of life. It's God's story being displayed
@kaleidoset2569
@kaleidoset2569 Ай бұрын
"I was catholic, until I reached the age of reason" George Carlin.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
I love Carlin! His litany of words not allowed on TV... priceless.
@bluzcompany2293
@bluzcompany2293 Ай бұрын
Now you know why people are moving away from organized religion, it's not because they don't have God in their life, its because they realize they don't need them to have God in their life.
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN Ай бұрын
There's this old historian Toynbee who proposed a theory of the life cycle of civilizations. In the past, civilizations always followed a predictable pattern, an ever-repeating cycle, and the death of every civilization was also the death of it's church. When the old civilization is actively breaking down and things are bad, there will be some people who find a way to transcend that reality, look towards the future, and they'd start a new church, which was also the seed of the new government to follow. So the church itself was somewhat regularly being renewed and made applicable to modern life. Corruption was always the thing that killed civilizations that lasted long enough, jobs specialized more and more, people find themselves in novel positions to make insane wealth by being corrupt, and this grows until it hits some critical mass, where the system can't absorb all the waste and badness any longer. For some reason, modern civilizations seem to have broken from the old pattern... either that, or they are just extremely resilient to this corruption, because the cycle is broken, and it hasn't turned over the way it always would have in the past One consequence of this is also that we're stuck with churches that haven't grown to answer the questions and solve issues of the modern age , but some long dead time in the past. It's only natural that people don't feel affinity for them anymore
@riverbender9898
@riverbender9898 Ай бұрын
An amazingly well-spoken, intelligent woman.
@johngilmore6688
@johngilmore6688 Ай бұрын
Forbidding marrage for priests, is against Biblical teaching, as is confessing your sins into the ear of a man, and not Almighty God. Calling anyone, "Father," other than God, is also unbiblical. Read the instruction manual.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Priests, just like the Apostles, were originally married men. The celibacy ruling was more to do with property rights than sexual relationships I seem to recall from church history. And even then common law wives were the norm.
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN Ай бұрын
Confession in and of itself is one of those few things from some organized religions that is understood to be a useful tool in a person's spiritual life... but i suspect it loses its value when it becomes compulsory and all this. There is value to confessing whatever you feel you need to confess, to somebody. Doesn't matter who, whoever YOU feel is appropriate. Some secrets hurt to keep, some secrets are always doing damage to you as long as you keep them, and telling them to someone - whoever you decide to, friend, stranger, professional... it can be an important thing. It does have value, in that way. But yeah, I suspect it's potential value is all but ruined, if not entirely ruined, once its made this thing you're expected to do at one specific place with one specific person with some regularity. Confession is good, when you actually feel the compulsion to confess something, to someone, for whatever personal reason you feel that urge
@user-mb8qi3ky5q
@user-mb8qi3ky5q Ай бұрын
This is the oldest story of all time. Nothing changes. Nothing will change. You come to realize that is has always been systemically infused into all facets of society for many thousands of years and that it always will be.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Absolutely. There will always be individuals who have sexual proclivities for children. But our organized religions and social institutions need to do a better job of holding them accountable under the law and not hiding them for fear of public scandal or more accusations.
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN Ай бұрын
It is embedded as an absolute fixture in CONSERVATIVE SOCIETIES though, where it happens everywhere, all the time, with nobody, or almost nobody, ever punished for it. When it is more frowned upon to speak of such things, when people are more worried about sullying reputations than protecting children, this is when this kind of abuse becomes ubiquitous. When and where it is viewed as a problem, and accusations are believed, and taken seriously, and offenders are investigated and punished, it happens far, far less. Of course, under those conditions, people will HEAR ABOUT IT happening a lot, where in the socially conservative environment it is never spoken of in public, and people remain largely unaware of the problem. So there is this paradox of how aware we are of the thing, and how ubiquitous it is, the two move in opposing directions, which doesn't seem logical. But yeah, my point being, this is not a problem that can be eliminated.... but we can, and always should, work to fine tune our social systems in ways that make it happen far less. Mostly by recognizing the abuse, believing victims and investigating and prosecuting their complaints, as well as publicly shaming and punishing offenders.
@user-mb8qi3ky5q
@user-mb8qi3ky5q Ай бұрын
@@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN I think it can be eliminated. It is just not politically advantageous to keep women and children safe from being sexually abused and trafficked by their own uncles, fathers, step fathers, brothers, friends of the family, and even mothers have been caught sexually exploiting children. Which is why it won't be addressed systemically. Politics and news will keep it to special interest groups like the church when the opposite is true. As if the church is the most dangerous place to find pedos and traffickers. You can avoid the church; you can't avoid your own home as a minor or anyone who is not financially independent. It is almost always someone in your family and family friends and then trusted members of society like cops and teachers, doctors and all who have automatic trust. This is propagated by mothers, fathers, wives and other enablers of the abusers when it is not financially feasible to support victims and leave the abusers. So, they silence the victim (children). I believe you are correct about mostly republicans (and democrats) who politically downplay the seriousness of sexual abusers' actions and suffering of their victims by virtue signaling that accusations are political fodder. Both parties are responsible for suppressing the seriousness of sexual abuse that leads to mental health crisis among women and children that are burdened as adults. It is perpetual sexual abuse and rape crisis that is endemic in our society and has no sign of being curbed in the slightest. It has always been this way. There can be support for women and children but unlikely if it happens in the family setting of financially dependent women and children. And of course, for those who do not have personal experience with sexual abuse in a family setting it is hard to believe such evil exists. Especially since it is commonplace for those who are accused and their enablers to insists the victims are crazy and or should never be believed.
@eljudge2958
@eljudge2958 Ай бұрын
Evil is an entit/energy that can express itself in many forms.
@pantherzzz111
@pantherzzz111 Ай бұрын
The Catholic Church had that much power in Ireland, the government could not make a major decision without the permission of the Church.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Absolutely true. And in the U.S. in certain cities the same has been true. Where I live in New Orleans, also in Boston and in Philadelphia. In these cities the police departments handed over control of abuse allegations to the church. The Catholic Church was allowed to "police" its own priests. And we all see how that went. In New Orleans I have heard stories of drunk priests being picked up by the police in areas of prostitution, for example, and driven home. No questions asked. And if a young boy is found in the company of that priest? Again, no questions asked.
@pantherzzz111
@pantherzzz111 Ай бұрын
What they got away with in Ireland, can never be forgiven, and they are still at it today in other Countries.
@raph3156
@raph3156 Ай бұрын
Shes saying something REALLY IMPORTANT while utilizing the widely accepted antagonist criminal character profile of the "pedophile priest" to explain it. Now what happens if two priests turns into two priests, a teacher, a doctor, a lawyer, a police officer, and a journalist? What happens when suddenly the word gets out about that community? Who does it attract? What happens if they hold a monopoly on the housing as the landlords, the spiritual teachers, the jobs, the education, the law, and the towns water supply? Hmmmmmmm.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
You know what they say...like attracts like. And absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@kil-roy
@kil-roy Ай бұрын
This is behavior is alive and well in the Mormon (LDS) church today
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Sadly so
@jamesbehrje4279
@jamesbehrje4279 Ай бұрын
The Mormon religion is whack. I had a cousin who married a Mormon girl. She was a complete whack job. All religions have their bad but the Mormon religions hierarchy promotes it , the same as Roman catholic hierarchy. I was baptized Roman catholic and went to a Roman catholic preschool. I left new york where my catholic family lived to South Florida with my protestant family. I kinda wonder if I was potentially abused as a child in some way. My memories aren't really there but it feels like there's something hidden in the recesses of my mind to deep to be pulled out. I struggled with depression and addiction for most of my life. I'm not sure what it is I'm holding onto. It might be nothing. I did look up abuse in the area I was living in when j went to that pre school and there was someone that was arrested for doing bad things to children, but I'm not sure if that person was there when I was I'm preschool. Just look up Good Shepard Catholic church holbrook sex abuse. I was at that school before all the allegations of 1987 happened but only a few years prior. All the same people when i was there were probably still there in 1987. I feel like there's something repressed that's too far. I would have been 5 yrs old when I left that preschool in 1985. My earliest memories I really remember are of my mom dieing in 1985 when i was 41/2 yrs old. I don't remember much before that. I'm confused. Maybe it's better I don't remember anything.
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN
@FUNKY_BUTTLOVIN Ай бұрын
Anywhere the power structures allow for abusers to act with relative impunity, it'll happen more than other places. Churches, Hollywood, etc just happen to have these structures. I never liked it, but I grew up in the Mormon church and just in my experience, never was abused, never felt unsafe around the adults I was around, never even had the feeling that things were funny. That said, I went to an LDS church in a fancy part of New England, where 90% of the members were IBM and other corporate employees, moving to that area for their job It was far removed from the geographical heart of the church, and I only ever saw or dealt with church people, at church, and in church activities. I think the church feels a lot more problematic when it is more all-encompassing, when you're not only a Mormon, but your community is Mormons as well. We've just seen this in the Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke case, the Mormon church in Salt Lake City greatly enabled Hildebrandt in her abuses... the more power the church has, the more it's going to be abusing that power, whether intentional or not. But yeah... My experience of the Mormon church was not at all like how most experience it, my church really was decent people, and their involvement in our lives was so limited. I have no respect for the church though, I will say that, they hoard all those, isn't it trillions of dollars? illegally... they collect so much and do literally no good at all with it. That is evil, they are evil. And they support a specific political party, despite not doing it explicitly, they're just too tied into evil and if they do any good, I've never seen it. Which is an absolute travesty considering how much wealth they accumulate.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
@@jamesbehrje4279 I really encourage you to talk about this with a therapist, preferably someone experienced in trauma therapy, but also someone that has been recommended. I also encourage you to write down your fears without any judgement. Just let yourself express them. Hopefully nothing happened but perhaps you sensed the dangerous atmosphere and that feeling has stayed with you.
@ReginaFlanji4386
@ReginaFlanji4386 4 күн бұрын
I'm really sorry for what you have been through.
@trese2658
@trese2658 Ай бұрын
This is why I believe priests and other “holy men” should be allowed to marry because it is so unnatural to live your life without a significant other, unless by choice. And furthermore how can they give advice about life without having being in a relationship.
@rz2559
@rz2559 Ай бұрын
Terrible
@mahalosailing
@mahalosailing Ай бұрын
Deeply troubled to hear these tales, needing to be told
@jennylingard8989
@jennylingard8989 Ай бұрын
Well said. And The pope should have done more in the past to Stop this. And the One now. Should do more to help the survivors And if there are any leased or numbs being abusive in any way he should second for a better word and report them to the police 🇬🇧
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Absolutely. The accusations should always be referred to the legal authorities not just to the church's lawyers. That was not the pattern for decades. It is better now but not consistently so. Victims need to learn to go to the civil authorities first. Most of us approached the Church first without legal representation, hoping for an appropriate response that in many (most?) cases was not forthcoming.
@EllertWattis
@EllertWattis 19 күн бұрын
If they had done that to anyone in my family I would see that they left this world
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm 10 күн бұрын
I understand your anger.
@dannym5345
@dannym5345 Ай бұрын
They put the "fear of god"into you
@outoforbit00
@outoforbit00 29 күн бұрын
Terrible experience this lady has had, clergy abuse and family incest. The abusers made diabolical choices in full conscience. But growing up in the catholic faith i had a very good experience. So its not fair nor accurate to tar all catholic clergy with the same brush.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm 10 күн бұрын
I completely agree and hope I made that clear in the last part of my video. I have known some wonderful Catholic priests and nuns.
@markobrien678
@markobrien678 Ай бұрын
The English could have never subjugated Ireland with the Catholic church being the enforcers.
@2bleavin
@2bleavin Ай бұрын
How is it in today's "Me too" culture have priest NOT gone to jail? I get that the "church" sweeps it under a rug, but what about the law? If they're still in churches it's still going on, why are we still not holding them accountable?
@joegibbskins
@joegibbskins Ай бұрын
Plenty of priests have gone to jail now in many countries. It was really have the Boston scandal in America broke in 2001, that governments stopped giving the church the benefit of the doubt and started investigating these things. Many guilty priests have not gone to jail though because it’s hard to prove allegations that are often made decades after the fact
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
One problem is the age of the victims. By the time victims are strong enough to face their abuse they are often in their 30's and maybe have children of their own that have triggered their memories and by then the statute of limitations against child abuse has usually run out. It is only in the case of rape that the statute allows for prosecution long term, I think. But proving you were raped as a child? Impossible, unless other victims come forward. And even then...
@Mari-Suzuki835
@Mari-Suzuki835 26 күн бұрын
I was born in a Catholic family, finish Primary and secondary in a Catholic schools. I became not believing Catholics because of hearing of many not good deeds of Catholic priests.until now I dont go to church because I dont believe those priests during Holy Mass and preaching in the Eucharist. I studied for a while about mormons and Jehovas witnesses but I dont feel it either. So I stayed as only Christian for myself. Praying rosary. I dont understand and will never understand the Pope that blessed same sex marriage. I can’t fined in any verses of the Bible that practicing homosexuality is ok. God forbid it. Thanks for this video. I subscribed🥰👍
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm 10 күн бұрын
I hope you can find a spiritual home.
@tesscastro2652
@tesscastro2652 Ай бұрын
✨️🌟✨️😢
@mcnally211
@mcnally211 Ай бұрын
What a horrific story. My Gods dont want my money or my butthole. My Gods are the Sun, Earth,love & animals. All i have to do is be compassionate & honest. Thats why am a Pagan. Humans always let me down but I still stay positive.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
Nature has always held the presence of the divine for me. And my brother, also a victim, became a Druid. I respect that completely as I respect your comment also.
@kh3612
@kh3612 Ай бұрын
I'm always extremely suspicious when I hear the term "youth pastor/minister." It gives me "the creeps." I consider myself to be extremely fortunate not to have been raised in the RCC (Presbyterian). Thank you for sharing your story.☮️
@aquariansunrise8981
@aquariansunrise8981 Ай бұрын
The Boston Globe
@kiskakuznetsova503
@kiskakuznetsova503 Ай бұрын
Yes, thank you! Not just complicit, but they protected abusers and allowed thousands to be irrevocably abused while they used tips from victims to protect the abusers and to smear the victims brave enough to come forward. Interesting what happens when your paper is run by Jesuits. There's even evidence that Globe reporters gave whistleblowers addresses, etc. to Boston mob who would frame them or setup family and loved ones as a warning. A slave is a slave even if they drive a Volvo and have a nice house on the Cape.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
It was the Globe's coverage that challenged me as a Catholic educator. It wasn't just a personal story any more, it was the policies of the whole organization that were corrupt. And I couldn't defend it.
@hahaha9076
@hahaha9076 Ай бұрын
No comment.
@iGame3D
@iGame3D Ай бұрын
This cult should be abolished via military force.
@TheElizabethashby
@TheElizabethashby Ай бұрын
JESUS IS GOD NOT THE GOD OF THE EVIL RCC
@EllertWattis
@EllertWattis 19 күн бұрын
Why didn’t you and your brothers go and take care of business
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm 10 күн бұрын
It took me until I was over 30 to acknowledge to myself that what had been done to me was not my fault. My brothers didn’t admit to me their own abuse until I wrote a memoir and then attempted to pursue a legal avenue in my late 40’s. My parents only admitted their abuse to us in their 80’s.
@TheElizabethashby
@TheElizabethashby Ай бұрын
READ THE KJV BIBLE WHICH THE EVIL RCC POPES HATED BECAUSE IT GAVE THE LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST'S TRUE WORD OF FREEDOM TO LIFE EVERLASTING - JOHN 3: 1-21 JV
@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS
@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS Ай бұрын
It's shit like this that makes me have the very controversial opinion that Oliver Cromwell shouldn't have stopped the Irish campaign. I do understand what the ramifications are saying that, but from my perspective the babies saved alone would make it all worthwhile. Edit: what a eloquent and empathetic woman, I legitimately respect her.
@lorigetz4489
@lorigetz4489 Ай бұрын
Cromwell was a mass murderer. Are you advocating genocide?
@glof2553
@glof2553 Ай бұрын
"I do understand the ramifications of saying that" I really, really don't think you do.
@tomconnolly9895
@tomconnolly9895 Ай бұрын
So you support genocide? He enslaved thousands and ethnically cleansed the land for his followers to move in and take it over. Just because you hate the Catholic Church (I do too) doesn't justify the actions of Cromwell. If anything it was the constant attempts by the British to stamp out Catholicism in Ireland that made the population more entrenched in their Catholic beliefs.
@ryanscottlogan8459
@ryanscottlogan8459 Ай бұрын
What a stupid statement.Drop d*ad!
@joannataylor9118
@joannataylor9118 Ай бұрын
Seems like she lost her faith in the Lord Jesus Christ who is,was and always will be GOD in the flesh. Be blessed everyone
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
I lost my faith in the Catholic Church leadership; I have retained my faith in Jesus. In fact I am a licensed Chaplain through the United Church of Christ. After leaving Catholic education I trained as a hospital chaplain. Very rewarding work.
@thearmchairjournalist566
@thearmchairjournalist566 Ай бұрын
I sincerely appreciate you reaching through the pain to tell us your experience 🫶
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
I appreciate your response.
@user-nc4lo8wc2m
@user-nc4lo8wc2m Ай бұрын
this is what the bible teaches
@m_d1905
@m_d1905 Ай бұрын
No it absolutely does not.
@Mona-sk9bm
@Mona-sk9bm Ай бұрын
I'm not sure what you are referring to.
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