NR200 or NR200P? Vertical GPU Considerations and the Tempered Glass Panel
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Күн бұрынThat is the question...
Let's take a look at considerations for a vertically mounted GPU, glass vs vented panel, and I'll share some real world gaming thermal and GPU benchmarks.
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AMD Ryzen 7 3700X CPU: amzn.to/2W6AdcS
Nvidia RTX 3070 Founders Edition
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Crucial Ballistix 16GB 3200mhz RAM: amzn.to/2IDFZ2J
Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD: amzn.to/3gAFbrT
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AIO, The Be Quiet! Pure Loop 240: amzn.to/2LijVLQ
Air Cooler, Noctua U12A (This is not officially supported according to CM specs): amzn.to/2TrSLTL
0:00 Introduction
3:43 Test Setup
4:32 Bottom Mounted AIO - Bottom Up or Top Down?
5:44 PCIE 3.0 Riser Cable
6:26 Horizontal vs Vertical GPU?
7:45 Vented vs Tempered Glass?
@ma1evich 3 жыл бұрын
almost 30 videos about builds in NR200P, feels like I found a holy grail
@azureen06 3 жыл бұрын
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@Just_Call_Me_Tim 2 жыл бұрын
Right!? I’m looking at this case, as my build has grown too much for my Node 202, but I feel like I can’t get enough info about it.
@ma1evich 2 жыл бұрын
@@Just_Call_Me_Tim sounds weird, what kind of info you're looking for?
@RodBlanc 6 ай бұрын
It is, I just built mine and wow. I'll just turn on my computer just to look at it even if not doing anything.
@jessejames5193 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, all your content on the NR200 case has been really useful for my first SFF build.
@abdulrahmanals821 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me the total price of your detailed NR200 build with RTX 3080? Also, is there a way I could create a 1500 dollars build with NR200, RTX 3030, and Ryzen 5 5600X? or this budget won't allow for it?
@estoyboy 3 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this, I kinda got hooked but then I realise I won't actually be upgrading soon so no point consuming about 3 hrs of content if there's gonna be something else out!
@808PhatBoii 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahmanals821 you could’ve definitely get away or close to it. My exact build with a 5600x a 3060ti costed around $1400. I did cut corners by opting for some used parts like my ram and mobo but still possible
@abdulrahmanals821 3 жыл бұрын
@@808PhatBoii I would appreciate it if you send me a link to a 1400 build with 3080 and this case through PC parts picker. I just could not make it
@808PhatBoii 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahmanals821 pcpartpicker.com/list/ydW33Z something like this. it says around $500 because there arent any prices for the cpu and gpu since its out of stock. But I got mine at MSRP which eqals around ~$1000 so the total ends up at $1500 give or take for shipping and handling. I opted for the nr200 to save and an extra $20 since I wasnt looking for the side glass panel anyway. I was also able to upgrade the ram for the same price since i bought it off my friend. Buying used may look scary at first but it is definitely a viable option if youre looking to save more money here and there
@JeremLeOuf29 Жыл бұрын
Hey, stopping by once again to thank you once more for this series of videos, really helped me decide and build my first ever build in a small form factor without any issues! Working like a charm for 3 months + now - horizontal GPU, bottom-to-top airflow, big ass tower CPU cooler with a 92mm fan in the back (for size reasons due to the CPU cooler) - works like a charm!
@mrgndx 3 жыл бұрын
It gets even more poetic from video to video :D love it!
@funhurtsmylungs1056 3 жыл бұрын
This mad lad pumping out NR200 content like it’s going out of fashion. Helping me with my build thanks bud!
@DaoJones1 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are all fantastic! I'm considering placing my NR200P on its side (TG panel facing up), and your videos have been great for helping me think through airflow routing and cooling options.
@paj878 3 жыл бұрын
Your intro made me watch the entire video. Keep rockin' man! You're awesome!
@DirtyGonzalez84 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your NR200(p) videos. You helped me alot to find the best configuration for my future SFF build.
@edhirxtrastrange 3 жыл бұрын
Dude. I was researching on NR200P build and found a gold mine here. Subbed!
@0Tidus0989 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos about the NR200 are a blessing! Thank you
@bigbored5402 3 жыл бұрын
Epic intro. Love your creative side.
@amaurytoloza1511 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I was so looking forward to this
@brojackedh.1512 11 ай бұрын
Excellent work, you made it possible to put my build together.
@thrywyn 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, especially for such a small channel!
@revnto7k 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! In such a small case with it being hard to go for a clean aesthetic anyway I would definitely go vented panel on a build like that. Makes way more sense and the data proves it!
@rusydirosli5264 3 жыл бұрын
more and more video that u post, the quality also always improved
@spunky113 3 жыл бұрын
Serious content here. Awesome job.
@dajalsejakdini 3 жыл бұрын
Heck yes! This is what I’ve been waiting for! Thanks so much dude it means alot to me
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You got it!
@abdulrahmanals821 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Can you tell me the total price of your detailed NR200 build with RTX 3080? Also, is there a way I could create a 1500 dollars build with NR200, RTX 3030, and Ryzen 5 5600X? or this budget won't allow for it?
@dajalsejakdini 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahmanals821 For now it's not possible, luckily I got my RTX 3080 for MSRP (MSI Gaming X Trio) ;)
@theretroman3862 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! Some one that knows how to do a proper informed review with things we are really interested!
@zilliq 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content, thank you so much for all this information!
@Dycedarg02 3 жыл бұрын
Great Review Thanks a lot!! I gonna buy this case
@N1cX591 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, yet another video I was just looking for! Because I love how the vertical GPU looks, might have to upgrade my upcoming NH12-S to beQuiet AIO since I am getting the 5600X.. Quality content!
@ToonamiAftermath 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video and also the video comparing the malicious with tempered glass, thanks!
@Mattalovis 2 жыл бұрын
you just made my build so much easier, Thank You !!!!!!!
@viveksrivatsan7684 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, i would really like a video on watercooling both the cpu and gpu while having the gpu vertically mounted in the nr200p
@SteffanMcC 3 жыл бұрын
First time builder here. I'm in the process of building a hackintosh with this case and your videos have been extremely helpful in deciding the best cooling setup. Thanks for the awesome content!
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Are you going Intel or AMD? Opencore? I run a dual boot on my daily machine.
@SteffanMcC 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore I had a sneaking suspicion you had a hackintosh when you referenced your daily build in your other videos based on hardware. I hear intel is a little smoother to get running, plus I found an amazing deal on a i7 10700kf a few weeks ago ($289). Since I don't have all the parts yet, I'm still researching and deciding between opencore vs. clover.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! That was an awesome deal! Not having the integrated graphics may make graphics card troubleshooting a little more troublesome though, but if you go with OpenCore and a mainstream card like an RX580, 5600XT, 5700XT you should be able to get a config.plist template with the correct gpu config that should at least let you boot in with discrete graphics so you can tune further. Clover is a bit easier to setup but more difficult for future updates. I ran Clover for the last five years, up until earlier this year, finally made the switch over to OpenCore and it's hugely flexible for hardware changes and OS updates, just a bit more involved for the initial config.plist setup at the beginning (but not hugely so- just be careful with the documentation).
@SteffanMcC 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore I was worried about not having integrated graphics, but I've read a kf cpu isn't impossible to use for a hackintosh. I picked up a 5700XT so I'm glad to hear it can still be done from you. I think i'll try with Opencore based on your info. I appreciate the tips!
@farezv 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful. Thank you for this
@bomolakeview78 6 күн бұрын
This video is incredible. Subbed,
@steven_90s 3 жыл бұрын
really useful video. Thanks!
@caml1720 2 жыл бұрын
that intro was PERFECT
@chiptoothtech4937 3 жыл бұрын
ANOTHER WONDERFUL INFORMATIVE VIDEO FROM MACHINES AND MORE!! ^_^!!!
@danielamodeo-chavez9518 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work!!! About to do a different fan setup again on my nr200 just cause of your videos lol
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
What are you changing?
@danielamodeo-chavez9518 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore I have a dual intake top with a single intake bot. My cpu cooler is the Mugen 5 Rev.b that works with the rear CM 92mm as an exhaust. I've been thinking of grabbing the Noctua industrial 2000rpm fan to upgrade my cooler fan since the scythe one is kinda meh and I might switch around my top fans to exhaust. My fans on the case are the CM sickleflow120, 2 Noctua Redux 120 1700rpm
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Gotcha! Sounds like you'll be changing to a bottom intake top exhaust config? What I'd try first before buying another fan just to see if you'd get a meaningful improvement from upgrading the fan: 1) Put one Redux 120 (guessing these are the the NF-P12 redux static pressure ones you have) on the heatsink. This is a static pressure fan so it's at home on a rad or a heatsink. 2) Try the Kaze Flex as a case fan (maybe on its own header so you can run it faster) Typically speaking the Noctua iPPC fans are a bit overkill for a heatsink (since you'll never want to run them fast because of the noise). A suitable upgrade would be NF-A12x25, NF-F12, those are all good Noctua options.
@danielamodeo-chavez9518 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore I'll try that out! Thank you
@weih723 3 жыл бұрын
this is super helpful, i think TG makes more sense in high end build, and black is the way to go for making these cables kind of blend in. Undervolting gpu will do great here! So both Noctua can fit in the TG without issue, I guess it’s time to find these with black fans!
@sebastiansandvik825 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, loved that intro!
@korezako3930 3 жыл бұрын
I can take 3-5 degree difference between vertical and horizontal GPU. But i didn't know that gpu clock can be affected by it. Nice info.
@perdomot 3 жыл бұрын
Love all the good info on temps and configs but could you do a video on the aesthetics of the case with different set ups? I know its not as important as temps but I am curious how to make this case look great with RGB especially with the vented panel. Don't think I've seen a video yet showing how the illuminations show through the vented side and top panels. Thanks for all the good work.
@bombthefueher 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video comparing multiple cpu coolers with the tempered glass. I'm kinda undecided on which one to go for, thinking Mugen 5. Your vids are the reason I bought this case lol.
@blueridgeocean 2 жыл бұрын
Guessing I'll be buying the nr200. Wanted the torrent nano for the airflow configuration but it is about 1 inch too large at 8.74" vs the nr200 at 7.28" so I'll give it a shot. Hope it'll work for my needs! My build I7 12700k, msi 3080 12gb z trio, z690-i mobo (undecided) ddr5 (undecided). Psu sfx 850w 80+ platinum. Noctua cpu cooler (returned hunting for a different Noctua cooler) 2tb 980 pro, 2tb kc3000 Kingston gen 4 m.2.
@James-xm8uu 2 жыл бұрын
I have basically an ideal air cooling setup. One thing I keep missing is, are the top case fans ALL exhaust or is the one on the right side exhaust and left side intake to push cool air against the air cooler?
@DrELECTRON1939 Жыл бұрын
Hi there... Love your channel. I noticed that the noctua nh-u12a height is ard 158mm but cm nr200p recommends max height of 155mm for vertical air cooler... Does the U12A fits when the glass panel is install? Need help... Thanks in advance. Cheers
@elwyndude 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to put an exhaust fan on the right panel of the case (right side, as if looking at the front of the case)? LIke a slim Noctua NF-A12x15?
@Blaquegold 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Did you ever get to do the comparison between the nr200 and the tu150? I have the tu150 but also like the nr200. That usb c on the tu150 is a huge plus for me and wished the nr200 also had it. But the cooling options on the nr200 is a big plus also.
@xermoda 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@cleardesigns4410 Жыл бұрын
Nr200P Case - Mounting Slim Fans In The Stop Bracket With Push Pins. Hoping you can offer a solution: In building my NR200P I placed my fans at the top, but the right-hand fan hit the plug on the power supply preventing me from installing the screened top. So I moved these fans to the bottom. Feeling I needed more airflow I purchased two slim fans (120mm x 120mm x 15 mm) which will work if I can figure out how to mount them! The push pins that came with, are two long and don’t hold the fans tight up against the rubber grommets! I bought some shorter pins but they turned out to not hold the fans in, and fall out when. I go to install the fan plate/frame to the case. Do you know of another method to mount and hold the fans in place?
@rushdrift 3 жыл бұрын
can the cooler master nr200 fit a full size psu? to be specific can it fit the Silverstone Strider ST65F-gs since its the smallest full atx psu in market, can it fit?
@x3Blind 3 жыл бұрын
Which air CPU coolers do you recommend with the tempered glass panel?
@kalaiselwenjayabalan4924 Жыл бұрын
Is there a build guide on the pc to the left? in the begining of the video ?
@masterdftw4983 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. M&M I am thinking about building my wife an NR200 gaming pc but I have on question which I cannot find any answer to. Does the cpu pump take in too much air when the radiator is mounted to the side? I could not find any data from Steve from Gamers Nexus? Also, would the Be Quiet AiO be better with the pump being on the tubes? Hope you got an answer for me 🙂
@esoroach 3 жыл бұрын
Like to see the difference between 2 Slim Noctua's vs NF-A12x25 Bottom Fan's without Deshrouding Or even 2x 140mm ?
@franskamstra2728 3 жыл бұрын
i want to do a build this year and am considering the O11 mini or the nr200. but the problem is i can only find the nr200p. i want a 3080FE in it. for it looks like it workes awesome in it. but its a bit crazy you only can find the more expesive if you dont use the stuff
@aawillma 3 жыл бұрын
I am a TG/top down cooler/FE heathen but noticed my thermals got a bit better when I set the fan curve on the FE to prioritize rear exhaust. Just leaving this here to remind other heathens that this is possible in Afterburner.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, heathen is such a strong word. You sound more like an educated creative spirit. Your point on the FE card is spot on. For SFF blowers tend to work well for the system as a whole- I recall a 65 blower/50 top exhaust fan ratio for the FE seemed to work well.
@rarauthentic8168 Жыл бұрын
which noctua air cooler should I use and is officially supported acoording to CM specs?
@zeeusoderqvist4921 3 жыл бұрын
So I can still use the glass panel with the Noctua? Do you use some spacers or?
@senseicheems3270 3 жыл бұрын
THAT PC YOU HAVE RIGHT THERE IS PERFECT MAY I PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HAVE HAVE A BUILD GUIDE FROM THE INSTALLTION OF THE MOTHETBOARD TO EVERYTHING
@disciprine 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see testing with a TG config with exhaust only lol. I installed my AIO fans incorrectly on my 5600x + 3080 vert system as blower and my GPU thermals with TG were surprisingly pretty good However my CPU suffered and went up like 10 deg temp as expected lol. Right now I can't close my top lid so I can't get a good hold on thermals. Need 180 deg connectors for my GPU so I can close the top panel down.
@Slick263 3 жыл бұрын
Building my first SFF Pc and going with this case. But I can't decide on what cooler, even after watching all of your videos. I'd like a FUMA 2, but can't get them where I live and I would like to run the Glass panel so the L12S etc are out and I'm not a fan of having anything touching the glass, I want a gap, even if it's only 1mm or so.
@j4ckcalico 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video but I am missing the 4th option: vented side panel + bottom mounted AIO, just for the sake of comparison.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Jack, it’s about 1.5 degrees better than the TG in the same vertical mounted position. Not hugely better. My take on that one was it’s really a unique scenario to use the vented side panel plus vGPU since if you’re using the vented panel side mounting the rad and a horizontal gpu is enormously better for everything.
@aam77 2 жыл бұрын
This must've already been answered but does the tempered glass fit with the Noctua NH-U12A?
@Victorinox7 2 жыл бұрын
este joven no quiere responder a esa pregunta que muchos de nosotros necesitamos saber. lo que creo es que con la noche no se cierra el panel lateral
@c.g.silver8782 3 жыл бұрын
After 3 months wait today I should have received my NR200P... Should have... Still waiting... But at least I can take more lessons from your thorough tests!! By the time I receive the case for real you may have 5 more vids released :) :)
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
3 months? You have the patience of a saint! At least you have all the info you need now! Hope you get it soon... and good luck building! :)
@THEBEST-vg5wt Жыл бұрын
How true it that I can use a atx power supply in this case with adapter ?
@davidj7516 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Great information and video. Question please. You mentioned the CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A. I like this cooler, but, it says it stands at 158mms. Now, the NR200 Case says it can only take Coolers 'up to' 155mm (mesh). Am I missing something? I've done a lot of homework, but am not going to actually build the PC... Yes, I'm chicken. I was going to get the Noctua NH L12S. But... Thank you for your time. If I never hear from you, no worries, the video is still great and I subscribed. ;) My set up basics: NR200, RTX 3080 Ti FE, Ryzen 9 5900X, Corsair SF 750W Platinum, Corsair Vengeance LPX 32gb (2x16) DDR4 3200/Cl16. :)
@thiccbaron 3 жыл бұрын
OMG 6:17 Thought i had a bad riser cable and switched my whole setup again with bottom mounted gpu and aio to side since all i got was a black screen. Thank you for this information.. Guess i can start again now. Why don't they mention that.
@marcusmartinet3834 3 жыл бұрын
Does the MSI 3080 VENTUS 3X 10G fit in the vertical orientation with that case? assuming AIO rad mounted at the bottom.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
It should but the fans will be so close to the glass (if TG is your intention) so I would be careful. To some extent your GPU thermals would be dependent on your rad fan speed as well.
@jordanhaer6285 3 жыл бұрын
i've got a gigabyte b550i motherboard, and i'm going to use my gpu on the vertical position how and when do i change the settings in the bios to make everything work
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
I would put the card into the board directly first and changing to PCIe 3.0 before setting it up as a vertical GPU. If you’re doing an AIO just leave the radiator out of the case first.
@disciprine 3 жыл бұрын
I actually didn't get a black screen on boot up when the mb was set to auto. However it did cause a lot of issues and the driver wouldn't install that threw me for a huge loop. I thought it was the drivers. Also I noticed GPU thermals were better at the bottom when my fans were installed backwards so I had all exhaust.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! So you put it into PCIE 3.0 and it was fine?
@disciprine 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore correct. It was driving me nuts. I wasted a good 1 hour or so trying to figure it out because it wasn't downright broken I was actually leaning harder on it being a driver issue, esp since I ported over an OS drive from a previous system. I think many people will encounter this with the case since they will be buying B550 motherboards and 3000 series cards so it's good you called it out
@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man have you done a video on modding the nr200 to support à top rad mount yet? (look up upside down nr200 mod)
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
I'm working on a top rad with the case in the stock position. Will be custom loop only though, I can't see an AIO rad fitting there.
@apmmasterpcapmmasterpc 3 жыл бұрын
This case is very good i can put my old MATX motherboard in it despite its only officially support mini ITX only but of course only 2 ram motherboard can do this
@salboyz5727 3 жыл бұрын
Which one should I purchase ?
@remy7663 3 жыл бұрын
There's been alot of complaints with the stock fans' grills making metal to metal contact noises with the NR200P, which only solution is to replace both stock fans, which totally defeats the most of the point of getting the P.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
I can see how that would happen, with the stock tool-less solution there's not a lot of clearance between the fan and the grill- theoretically you could space it out with a little rubber bumper or something if you really wanted to keep the stock fan.
@adamwest347 3 ай бұрын
He’s the GOAT!!!
@mohamedahmed1023 3 жыл бұрын
I think when testing airflow, you should work with higher TDP components as they stress test your cooling. Components like a 3070 and Ryzen 3700X can be cooled easily, even when layout is suboptimal. With a 10900K with a 3080, you really can't get away with anything. So it may have been best to to just test with your 3080 and a hotter CPU as whatever results you got there would work with lower tdp components.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you- the main thing here was looking for very big/high-level inferences. The finding was that there is a large impact for the GPU in the vertical position, and there is a big impact on CPU thermals from the GPU exhaust passing through a bottom mounted rad. A heavier thermal load would just see the same issues, on a larger scale.
@Cichlid_Visuals 3 жыл бұрын
it simply comes down to this: maximum performance? mesh panel, 280mm AIO. Care more about looks?: glass panel, air cooler that fits, or 240mm aio on bottom.
@CknSalad 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah pretty much. Since I don’t really look at my pc case much, I go with maximizing performance.
@forsaken7161 2 жыл бұрын
Whats your opinion on the DARK Rock tf 2?
@el_tate 3 жыл бұрын
For vented panel, which is the best air cpu cooler? is it the U12A or are there a better one?
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
On the basis of the heatsink alone I think the U12A and the Scythe Fuma 2 are very well matched, but the U12A has better fans out of the box (also costs more). Either should fit with the vented panel.
@Just_Call_Me_Tim 2 жыл бұрын
Are 120mm fans as big as you can go with the top mounting option?
@MachinesMore 2 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@lenmuel7736 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I’ve seen some builds where they’ve modded the case to accommodate an AIO on top (outside the case) allowing them to use the glass. Are u able to recommend any other mods to allow a top mounted AIO?
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest impediment to inside mounting is your mobo position. A regular thickness AIO just won’t fit at the top unless you go fanless. I am working on a custom loop build with a few mods which will use a top and bottom rad, that might give the community some ideas.
@lenmuel7736 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Sweet, looking forward for it!
@sloqlap7822 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Some of the configs people are making are kinda nuts, especially the two folks with a triple rad setup (top, bottom, and side) using all slim fans/rads. I'm still unsure which way I want to do but I would love to figure out a way to make a custom loop in this case with a 5900x and a 3080.
@Unhomiee 3 жыл бұрын
A missed opportunity. A better intro would be "TG, or not TG?" in my opinion.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, yes!
@protogen_boi 3 жыл бұрын
To P or not to P, that is the question
@jdcarpe 3 жыл бұрын
@@protogen_boi When you gotta go, you gotta go!
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@BCdesu 3 жыл бұрын
Ain't no one gonna use the TG with the Noctua + Cyberpunk look though... That's one hell of an aesthetic nightmare 😂
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, all great Noctua builds hit long term equilibrium at tan and brown.
@BCdesu 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore But not yellow and blue 😂
@arvinsim 3 жыл бұрын
Using the U12A made the choice of side panel for me(vented)
@cheeeesssssy 3 жыл бұрын
nice intro ;)
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@Helder_Paulo 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt catch it. So with tg an bottom gpu which air cooler will fit in nr200p?
@zilliq 3 жыл бұрын
Scythe fuma 2 and Noctua U12A apparently, I thought the U12A didn't fit at all with TG but apparently it fits when using the screws to tighten the TG Edit: read MAM comments below, depending on the motherboard you could or could not fit U12A with TG. If you 100% want to use the TG then buy the mobo accordingly or go with the scythe fuma 2
@senseicheems3270 3 жыл бұрын
BUILD GUIDE OF THAT OC IN 0:16
@Ricky-oz4ic 3 жыл бұрын
Im giving up on this case. Not a single stock in my country. There's one overseas but was double the price. Even coming from US it will cost almost double.
@freezxify 3 жыл бұрын
If you're in Europe, caseking and computeruniverse seem to have stock and they ship worldwide.
@blindman8093 Жыл бұрын
will the asus tuf 4070ti fit to Nr200P
@CosmicApe 3 жыл бұрын
What about vertical GPU but vented panel?
@Tolard49 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Big Shriken 3 as CPU cooler, will it be a major issue with the glass panel? In the worst case switching panels won't be an issue but still wondering 😅
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
As long as you don't stick a vertical GPU in front of it :) It's fine, it's not as good but not all CPUs need to run that cool. Now if you're trying to cool a 3900X or 5900X I'd recommend against it but if it's just a Ryzen 5 or 10600, it's not the end of the world.
@Tolard49 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Indeed it's a 3600 that doesn't run hot at all, especially in my current Evolv Shift Air. Thanks for the reply 👍
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
You'll be fine, just make sure GPU exhaust has somewhere to go other than into the cooler. Bottom intakes and top exhausts are very important with that setup since you don't have the vented side panel.
@EBP2K2 3 жыл бұрын
only video i've seen where it mentions setting PCIE to 3.0 manually from BIOS when using these riser cables. you wouldn't believe all of the wasted hours of people trying to figure out why their PC is unstable or don't POST half the time until they find out PCIE auto set to 4.0 while using these riser cables.
@Argooh 3 жыл бұрын
Glass panel is preferable for me as the coil whine from my gpu is ever so sligtly muffled compared to the metal panel.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
I have had that experience with the 3080 FE as well. The 3070 isn't as whiny.
@CknSalad 3 жыл бұрын
Machines & More cries in 2070 super with coil whine. Seems like high end gpus have a higher chance of coil whine these days
@micahpowers2614 3 жыл бұрын
Im getting an AIO for the CPU and im thinking about trying the NZXT g12 with an Aio mounted to the bottom. I havent seen anyone try it yet in this case and I havent tried the G12 bracket at all yet so im interested in it haha.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Micah, it should work really well, just make sure you have a fan directed at the PCB to cool the VRMs, or better yet put some small heatsinks on it. Not sure if you checked out this video here but should give you a few ideas. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/etipqrap2c6xgZc.html
@micahpowers2614 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore I hadnt seen that video yet. I have an Asus 1080ti Strix that I was hoping to get a 240 aio to fit underneath the video card and than a 240 for my 3700x to fit on the side rail. Guess I will try 2 120aios for each mounted to the side radiator.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
For sure bottom mounting is a little tricky with clearances on an AIO pump block. Two 120s would work for both components. Good luck!
@NL0Gwenster 3 жыл бұрын
in the Netherlands there is no consideration. The only available model to us is the NR200P - i am sure there are other regions with only the P variant. So i had to buy it. At 99 euro's that's still the cheapest case i ever bought. And i managed to sell the sidepanel for 20 for somebody that ruined his so yeah. all good :-)
@r4dioN 3 жыл бұрын
I went TG, vertical GPU and bottom mounted AIO... basically unleashing the fury of the internet on myself. Despite all that, my thermals are good.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
And that's great! These are all just varying degrees of trade-offs, you pick your battles in SFF.
@he00754127 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Excuse me .Noctua NH-U12A height is 158 mm, while NR200P limit is 153 mm, which is how do it?
@MachinesMore 2 жыл бұрын
There is some flex in the case, so you can lock the panel in place with a screw or two, it’s not as convenient any more to open the panel but it is one way to safely fit the glass panel. It kind of depends on the board too, with my Gigabyte board I can close the glass without screws, but with the Asus board I could not. Lots of close tolerances at play! Hope that helps.
@he00754127 2 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Thank you very much for your answer
@MrJeanWilson 3 жыл бұрын
So your telling me that the Noctua u12a fits with the inside screws O,o? With tempered glass.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Marginally. I can’t recommend it for all boards since slight mobo height variances and cooler height variances can dramatically throw things off.
@MrJeanWilson 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore i noticed you got the same board i have the gigabyte x570 itx so ill give it a go.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, in fact fit with the Aorus was a little better than the Strix.
@dalelord200 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Is the Aorus what you are using in this video? I want to give the TG a try but was hoping to squeeze 2x Noctua 12x25 exhaust fans on the top panel, and I know you mentioned in another video that the Aorus chip being set higher on the board made things tight. Gotta choose between these two boards. Thanks for these videos! They're saving my life on this build!
@robertthomson1994 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly wish they sold the TG separately, just because I'd like to have the option.
@thetechrealist 3 жыл бұрын
? It would actually be more expensive if they did that.....
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
The "P" is kind of the option, since the NR200P is essentially the NR200 just with an extra tempered glass panel and the riser cable, with a more useful 120mm fan. If you got the NR200 and wanted to get an extra glass panel, I would think with shipping and other logistical expenses factored in, they'd probably charge in the neighborhood of $20.
@loklocke 3 жыл бұрын
Noticed you have been using the U12A instead of C14S. Any reason why?
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
For comparisons between the tempered glass and the vented panel, is all. It wouldn’t be a reasonable illustration to use the C14S with the tempered glass panel.
@loklocke 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Thanks for the response! That makes sense. Was just wondering if your opinion on U12A vs C14s had changed.
@ROC1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore Yeah I was also wondering if your opinion on U12A vs C14s had changed. I'm building in the NR200 for the first time with a 3070 Founders Edition and I'm wondering if I should go with the C14s with the extra Noctua NF-A12x25 or U12A as intake. I want the best performance for the GPU. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
@michaelchoy177 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys.. can someone post their chipset temperature? Mine is getting 65c on idle, and around 70c under load.. And is there a way to help cool the motherboard chipset?
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Those aren’t abnormal or dangerous temps. What board are you using?
@michaelchoy177 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachinesMore its asus x570 i gaming... i see.. so what are the usual normal temperature for the chipset?
@user-bgw01uykfj Жыл бұрын
How tall is that cooler?
@Hi-levels Жыл бұрын
Ordered it. I will move my system into it. I have zotac 3090, 5600x , b550i gigabyte, 16gbx2 ddr4s, 2tb hdd, 500gb sata ssd, 1tb m2, full atx psu and 240mm arctic liq freezer I dont want to buy a super expsnve sfx psu. I will 3d print the full atx design. I cant decide if i should use the glass or not. My rams have rgb lol I will deshroud the gpu and i wont go vertical tho
@thesurfer4114 3 жыл бұрын
Does the vented panel increase the noise?
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and no, and here's why I don't consider that as a factor in testing. If you have the glass side facing you, the noise perceived is dampened by 0.5dBA when sitting a normal distance away. If you sit with the back of the mobo facing your ears, then there's absolutely no benefit.
@kcfish4862 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it is worth putting ATX PSU in since it support that anyway
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
I usually don’t recommend it just due to the space consumption and limitations, but it’s definitely an interim solution if that’s what you have now.
@MrPilotRose 3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely worth it. I'm running a 5600x and 3070 FE in mine with an ATX PSU. Check it out here: imgur.com/a/hCHESOo And you can get the fancy 3d printed bracket here: www.etsy.com/listing/881894816/customized-and-improved-cooler-master Oh and I should add that I have overclocked my 3070 FE with +135 core / +1000 memory and it's super quiet while getting crazy good scores with a GPU score of 14701 on Time Spy.
@MachinesMore 3 жыл бұрын
@Casey looks like your Gpu just about clears it. Thanks for sharing it!
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